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Re: Commits/Recruiting

Postby Shaddix on Wed Oct 17, 2012 4:33 pm

"I think rebounding is where we will improve the most." -Donahue #ACCMediaDay


It's as if I said this 3 months ago, then again last week......
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Re: Commits/Recruiting

Postby Shaddix on Wed Oct 17, 2012 4:38 pm

BCEaglesFan {l Wrote}:BC is out on Noah Vonleh. They aren't in his top 6.

Maybe the Owens offer was a sign of them giving up and moving on.


Noah Vonleh hasn't released his top 6......?
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Re: Commits/Recruiting

Postby BCEaglesFan on Wed Oct 17, 2012 4:42 pm

Shaddix {l Wrote}:
BCEaglesFan {l Wrote}:BC is out on Noah Vonleh. They aren't in his top 6.

Maybe the Owens offer was a sign of them giving up and moving on.


Noah Vonleh hasn't released his top 6......?

http://blogs.eagletribune.com/mvsports/ ... a-super-6/

Hoff said he heard the same thing as this article.
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Re: Commits/Recruiting

Postby twballgame9 on Wed Oct 17, 2012 7:13 pm

Shaddix {l Wrote}:
"I think rebounding is where we will improve the most." -Donahue #ACCMediaDay


It's as if I said this 3 months ago, then again last week......


Can't do much worse, nowhere to go but up. That said, he must be assuming Anderson becomes a 20 rebound guy because none of the rest of them are good rebounders.
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Re: Commits/Recruiting

Postby Shaddix on Wed Oct 17, 2012 7:38 pm

BCEaglesFan {l Wrote}:
Shaddix {l Wrote}:
BCEaglesFan {l Wrote}:BC is out on Noah Vonleh. They aren't in his top 6.

Maybe the Owens offer was a sign of them giving up and moving on.


Noah Vonleh hasn't released his top 6......?

http://blogs.eagletribune.com/mvsports/ ... a-super-6/

Hoff said he heard the same thing as this article.


It's not anywhere on twitter, and that's the only article. I'll believe it more when I see it in more places. He's been high on BC this whole time and suddenly they don't even make his top 6. Just can't believe that.
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Re: Commits/Recruiting

Postby eepstein0 on Wed Oct 17, 2012 8:24 pm

Shaddix {l Wrote}:
BCEaglesFan {l Wrote}:
Shaddix {l Wrote}:
BCEaglesFan {l Wrote}:BC is out on Noah Vonleh. They aren't in his top 6.

Maybe the Owens offer was a sign of them giving up and moving on.


Noah Vonleh hasn't released his top 6......?

http://blogs.eagletribune.com/mvsports/ ... a-super-6/

Hoff said he heard the same thing as this article.


It's not anywhere on twitter, and that's the only article. I'll believe it more when I see it in more places. He's been high on BC this whole time and suddenly they don't even make his top 6. Just can't believe that.


The reason we didn't make the list is that frankly we suck. Improve the program and these kids will be interested.
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Re: Commits/Recruiting

Postby Shaddix on Wed Oct 17, 2012 9:20 pm

Following a 2012 recruiting class in which Seton Hall didn't add any new players, the Pirates are working on a solid 2013 haul. ESPN 100 guard Aquille Carr is already committed, and plenty of other prospects are on the radar.

Among them is Jerron Wilbut (Chicago/Downers Grove South). According to Adam Zagoria, the three-star shooting guard visited South Orange over the weekend and came away impressed. Seton Hall could use a scorer like Wilbut, but will have to contend with Xavier, Marquette, Virginia Tech, Wisconsin-Green Bay and Memphis if they want to land him.

Jevon Thomas visited the Pirates over the weekend as well and Garland Owens is lined up to check out the school this weekend.


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Jerron Wilbut is back from the abyss, probably wouldn't qualify for BC
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Re: Commits/Recruiting

Postby vegasEagle on Wed Oct 17, 2012 9:26 pm

Shaddix {l Wrote}:
Following a 2012 recruiting class in which Seton Hall didn't add any new players, the Pirates are working on a solid 2013 haul. ESPN 100 guard Aquille Carr is already committed, and plenty of other prospects are on the radar.

Among them is Jerron Wilbut (Chicago/Downers Grove South). According to Adam Zagoria, the three-star shooting guard visited South Orange over the weekend and came away impressed. Seton Hall could use a scorer like Wilbut, but will have to contend with Xavier, Marquette, Virginia Tech, Wisconsin-Green Bay and Memphis if they want to land him.

Jevon Thomas visited the Pirates over the weekend as well and Garland Owens is lined up to check out the school this weekend.


ESPN

Jerron Wilbut is back from the abyss, probably wouldn't qualify for BC


Is this the kid who was down to Wazzou and BC for 2012?
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Re: Commits/Recruiting

Postby BCEaglesFan on Thu Oct 18, 2012 5:37 am

vegasEagle {l Wrote}:
Shaddix {l Wrote}:
Following a 2012 recruiting class in which Seton Hall didn't add any new players, the Pirates are working on a solid 2013 haul. ESPN 100 guard Aquille Carr is already committed, and plenty of other prospects are on the radar.

Among them is Jerron Wilbut (Chicago/Downers Grove South). According to Adam Zagoria, the three-star shooting guard visited South Orange over the weekend and came away impressed. Seton Hall could use a scorer like Wilbut, but will have to contend with Xavier, Marquette, Virginia Tech, Wisconsin-Green Bay and Memphis if they want to land him.

Jevon Thomas visited the Pirates over the weekend as well and Garland Owens is lined up to check out the school this weekend.


ESPN

Jerron Wilbut is back from the abyss, probably wouldn't qualify for BC


Is this the kid who was down to Wazzou and BC for 2012?

That was Jordan Tebbutt. He never decided.
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Re: Commits/Recruiting

Postby eagle9903 on Thu Oct 18, 2012 8:21 am

eepstein0 {l Wrote}:
Shaddix {l Wrote}:
BCEaglesFan {l Wrote}:
Shaddix {l Wrote}:
BCEaglesFan {l Wrote}:BC is out on Noah Vonleh. They aren't in his top 6.

Maybe the Owens offer was a sign of them giving up and moving on.


Noah Vonleh hasn't released his top 6......?

http://blogs.eagletribune.com/mvsports/ ... a-super-6/

Hoff said he heard the same thing as this article.


It's not anywhere on twitter, and that's the only article. I'll believe it more when I see it in more places. He's been high on BC this whole time and suddenly they don't even make his top 6. Just can't believe that.


The reason we didn't make the list is that frankly we suck. Improve the program and these kids will be interested.


I agree, for the most part you have to win first without the top recruits to get them. Or we could have hired Ed Cooley, but I remain somewhat pessimistic that he will ever actually be able to do much with his Providence bigtime recruits and pessimistic that any of them would have gone to BC for one reason or another.
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Re: Commits/Recruiting

Postby RedBaron67 on Thu Oct 18, 2012 11:27 am

eagle9903 {l Wrote}:
eepstein0 {l Wrote}:
Shaddix {l Wrote}:
BCEaglesFan {l Wrote}:
Shaddix {l Wrote}:
BCEaglesFan {l Wrote}:BC is out on Noah Vonleh. They aren't in his top 6.

Maybe the Owens offer was a sign of them giving up and moving on.


Noah Vonleh hasn't released his top 6......?

http://blogs.eagletribune.com/mvsports/ ... a-super-6/

Hoff said he heard the same thing as this article.


It's not anywhere on twitter, and that's the only article. I'll believe it more when I see it in more places. He's been high on BC this whole time and suddenly they don't even make his top 6. Just can't believe that.


The reason we didn't make the list is that frankly we suck. Improve the program and these kids will be interested.


I agree, for the most part you have to win first without the top recruits to get them. Or we could have hired Ed Cooley, but I remain somewhat pessimistic that he will ever actually be able to do much with his Providence bigtime recruits and pessimistic that any of them would have gone to BC for one reason or another.


I still expect that Cooley will give BC some headaches in the future, but certainly he couldn't have recruited at BC the way he's recruited at Providence (can you possibly imagine BC's academic screening committee approving Ricky Ledo?). As for Vonleh, he was always a long shot simply because he was good enough to interest the big-name programs from the beginning; when Donahue offered Vonleh two years ago, Boeheim was also in the gym, and a few weeks later Vonleh got an offer from Kansas. BC's program will have to improve significantly before having a realistic shot at local superstars like Vonleh.
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Re: Commits/Recruiting

Postby HJS on Thu Oct 18, 2012 12:49 pm

Even if Anderson or Clifford get drafted in the first round, we don't have the assistants necessary to recruit at this level. I mean... you all saw that freaking Kevin Ollie is still in the mix for Vonleh, right? What the hell has he ever accomplished??? Recruiting is 80% sales and 20% evaluation. It is hard to say that the current set assistants are good at either.
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Re: Commits/Recruiting

Postby flyingelvii on Thu Oct 18, 2012 12:56 pm

HJS {l Wrote}:Even if Anderson or Clifford get drafted in the first round, we don't have the assistants necessary to recruit at this level. I mean... you all saw that freaking Kevin Ollie is still in the mix for Vonleh, right? What the hell has he ever accomplished??? Recruiting is 80% sales and 20% evaluation. It is hard to say that the current set assistants are good at either.

He played in the NBA for 13 years and was presumably one of the top assistant coaches on a national championship team and a perennial basketball powerhouse. Good try though.
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Re: Commits/Recruiting

Postby HJS on Thu Oct 18, 2012 1:07 pm

flyingelvii {l Wrote}:
HJS {l Wrote}:Even if Anderson or Clifford get drafted in the first round, we don't have the assistants necessary to recruit at this level. I mean... you all saw that freaking Kevin Ollie is still in the mix for Vonleh, right? What the hell has he ever accomplished??? Recruiting is 80% sales and 20% evaluation. It is hard to say that the current set assistants are good at either.

He played in the NBA for 13 years and was presumably one of the top assistant coaches on a national championship team and a perennial basketball powerhouse. Good try though.

When the eff did we get merrymen in BB? Are you seriously telling me that you would want Kevin Ollie as our head coach?? Kevin Ollie is terrible and will be fired within 4 years. Your desperate attempt at justifying crappy recruiting by lifting up Kevin Ollie as some sort of BB icon is pathetic.

I like Donahue and thought he had a chance to be successful here. But, that all changed when he lost Joe Jones and replaced him on the staff with Woody Kampmann.
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Re: Commits/Recruiting

Postby flyingelvii on Thu Oct 18, 2012 1:09 pm

HJS {l Wrote}:
flyingelvii {l Wrote}:
HJS {l Wrote}:Even if Anderson or Clifford get drafted in the first round, we don't have the assistants necessary to recruit at this level. I mean... you all saw that freaking Kevin Ollie is still in the mix for Vonleh, right? What the hell has he ever accomplished??? Recruiting is 80% sales and 20% evaluation. It is hard to say that the current set assistants are good at either.

He played in the NBA for 13 years and was presumably one of the top assistant coaches on a national championship team and a perennial basketball powerhouse. Good try though.

When the eff did we get merrymen in BB? Are you seriously telling me that you would want Kevin Ollie as our head coach?? Kevin Ollie is terrible and will be fired within 4 years. Your desperate attempt at justifying crappy recruiting by lifting up Kevin Ollie as some sort of BB icon is pathetic.

I like Donahue and thought he had a chance to be successful here. But, that all changed when he lost Joe Jones and replaced him on the staff with Woody Kampmann.

I legitimately have no idea what the fuck you are talking about or how you gleaned that from what I said.
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Re: Commits/Recruiting

Postby eagle9903 on Thu Oct 18, 2012 1:12 pm

HJS {l Wrote}:
flyingelvii {l Wrote}:
HJS {l Wrote}:Even if Anderson or Clifford get drafted in the first round, we don't have the assistants necessary to recruit at this level. I mean... you all saw that freaking Kevin Ollie is still in the mix for Vonleh, right? What the hell has he ever accomplished??? Recruiting is 80% sales and 20% evaluation. It is hard to say that the current set assistants are good at either.

He played in the NBA for 13 years and was presumably one of the top assistant coaches on a national championship team and a perennial basketball powerhouse. Good try though.

When the eff did we get merrymen in BB? Are you seriously telling me that you would want Kevin Ollie as our head coach?? Kevin Ollie is terrible and will be fired within 4 years. Your desperate attempt at justifying crappy recruiting by lifting up Kevin Ollie as some sort of BB icon is pathetic.

I like Donahue and thought he had a chance to be successful here. But, that all changed when he lost Joe Jones and replaced him on the staff with Woody Kampmann.


While you may be ultimately correct (I don't think you are), Ollie is the head coach of a program which has won three national championships within the last 15 years. That makes it a pretty awful comparison.
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Re: Commits/Recruiting

Postby eagle9903 on Thu Oct 18, 2012 1:14 pm

flyingelvii {l Wrote}:
HJS {l Wrote}:
flyingelvii {l Wrote}:
HJS {l Wrote}:Even if Anderson or Clifford get drafted in the first round, we don't have the assistants necessary to recruit at this level. I mean... you all saw that freaking Kevin Ollie is still in the mix for Vonleh, right? What the hell has he ever accomplished??? Recruiting is 80% sales and 20% evaluation. It is hard to say that the current set assistants are good at either.

He played in the NBA for 13 years and was presumably one of the top assistant coaches on a national championship team and a perennial basketball powerhouse. Good try though.

When the eff did we get merrymen in BB? Are you seriously telling me that you would want Kevin Ollie as our head coach?? Kevin Ollie is terrible and will be fired within 4 years. Your desperate attempt at justifying crappy recruiting by lifting up Kevin Ollie as some sort of BB icon is pathetic.

I like Donahue and thought he had a chance to be successful here. But, that all changed when he lost Joe Jones and replaced him on the staff with Woody Kampmann.

I legitimately have no idea what the fuck you are talking about or how you gleaned that from what I said.


That was a stretch.
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Re: Commits/Recruiting

Postby QuailMan on Sun Oct 21, 2012 11:09 am

Garland Owens decides today at 4pm
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Re: Commits/Recruiting

Postby Shaddix on Sun Oct 21, 2012 3:03 pm

Commit! Garland committed to BC
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Re: Commits/Recruiting

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Re: Commits/Recruiting

Postby BCEaglesFan on Sun Oct 21, 2012 3:10 pm

Great news on Owens. Interesting part of his interview:
Are you recruiting anyone to join you at Boston College?

Probably [class of 2013 small forward] Rashard Kelly. He’s here with me at Massanutten and they’re looking at him right now. They haven’t offered but they’re very interested in him.
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Re: Commits/Recruiting

Postby Brablc on Sun Oct 21, 2012 4:06 pm

BCEaglesFan {l Wrote}:Great news on Owens. Interesting part of his interview:
Are you recruiting anyone to join you at Boston College?

Probably [class of 2013 small forward] Rashard Kelly. He’s here with me at Massanutten and they’re looking at him right now. They haven’t offered but they’re very interested in him.


I'm excited about Owens. Sounds like a really good kid who could be an elite talent if he can shore up some of weaknesses (shooting, dribbling). Good get!

Not sure what to think of Kelly. I would say nay since Owens is more of a SF anyway.
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Re: Commits/Recruiting

Postby Shaddix on Sun Oct 21, 2012 4:22 pm

Brablc {l Wrote}:
BCEaglesFan {l Wrote}:Great news on Owens. Interesting part of his interview:
Are you recruiting anyone to join you at Boston College?

Probably [class of 2013 small forward] Rashard Kelly. He’s here with me at Massanutten and they’re looking at him right now. They haven’t offered but they’re very interested in him.


I'm excited about Owens. Sounds like a really good kid who could be an elite talent if he can shore up some of weaknesses (shooting, dribbling). Good get!

Not sure what to think of Kelly. I would say nay since Owens is more of a SF anyway.


Owens HAS to improve his shooting dramatically this year if he wants to see significant time next year. He also needs to shore up ball handling, passing, dribbling a bit. But he could prove to be a great get if Donahue can turn this athlete into a basketball player.

Top 2 targets for 2014:

Terrell and Cimino?

or Joseph and Brennan?
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Re: Commits/Recruiting

Postby MattTheEagle on Sun Oct 21, 2012 5:18 pm

Shaddix {l Wrote}:Commit! Garland committed to BC

Excellent news! I'm looking forward to seeing him play for BC! :screamyeagle :screamyeagle :screamyeagle
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Re: Commits/Recruiting

Postby Thornton Melon on Sun Oct 21, 2012 5:25 pm

But, that all changed when he lost Joe Jones and replaced him on the staff with Woody Kampmann.


I think this is really the true damnation of the Greasy Gene era. Recruiting coordinator in football his vacation buddy. Basketball they don't require the head coach to actually hire a D1 recruiter. This is where Bates has to make an immediate impact - not sure if he'll see it that way, but I don't know how you can play in the ACC without the ability to recruit talent somewhat on par with other ACC schools.
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Re: Commits/Recruiting

Postby vegasEagle on Sun Oct 21, 2012 5:40 pm

Thornton Melon {l Wrote}:
But, that all changed when he lost Joe Jones and replaced him on the staff with Woody Kampmann.


I think this is really the true damnation of the Greasy Gene era. Recruiting coordinator in football his vacation buddy. Basketball they don't require the head coach to actually hire a D1 recruiter. This is where Bates has to make an immediate impact - not sure if he'll see it that way, but I don't know how you can play in the ACC without the ability to recruit talent somewhat on par with other ACC schools.



You lost me here. Are you saying a 30 year old is gene's vacation buddy? In fact, you really lost me here.
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Re: Commits/Recruiting

Postby Thornton Melon on Sun Oct 21, 2012 5:53 pm

The football board has been saying Siravo and Gene are tight for years. If I'm wrong about that, I'm wrong. Plus Siravo is almost 40.
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Re: Commits/Recruiting

Postby Shaddix on Sun Oct 21, 2012 6:00 pm

Thornton Melon {l Wrote}:The football board has been saying Siravo and Gene are tight for years. If I'm wrong about that, I'm wrong. Plus Siravo is almost 40.


BC gets its first recruit of the year and you come in here and bring this up? :whalepants
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Re: Commits/Recruiting

Postby pick6pedro on Sun Oct 21, 2012 6:13 pm

Shaddix {l Wrote}:Commit! Garland committed to BC



Excellent news! Welcome Garland!
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Re: Commits/Recruiting

Postby eepstein0 on Sun Oct 21, 2012 7:18 pm

pick6pedro {l Wrote}:
Shaddix {l Wrote}:Commit! Garland committed to BC



Excellent news! Welcome Garland!


We're not really in a position to pass up kids with his athleticism. Going to be fun watching Hanlan and Daniels throwing him alley-oops.
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