Staff question

[ATLeagle]

I know how our AD feels, but if a new coach was willing to keep Duquette and/or Preston Murphy on the staff to help transition, would that be a positive or negative in your mind?

[apbc12]

Negative. I am tremendously unimpressed by our current assistants, although in fairness I don't know much about Murphy.

[commavegarage]

Negative. No reason not to clean house. Outside of Jackson, I couldn't care less if we lost every player on the team tomorrow.

[bcaddict]

positive. Both are good and I would love to keep one--and I think they will. Hell, Mo was good too--he got a lot of message board shit for things that were not his fault.

[commavegarage]

positive. Both are good and I would love to keep one--and I think they will. Hell, Mo was good too--he got a lot of message board shit for things that were not his fault.

I hope this is an April Fool's joke. WTF did Cassara do?

[eepstein0]

Can't say I know enough about it to make a judgment. We need as assistant coach who doesn't suck at recruiting, I do know that much. Whatever loser we brought in to get the local Prep kids has delivered exactly 0 players.

[screagle]

negative

[Art Vandelay]

Negative. No reason not to clean house. Outside of Jackson, I couldn't care less if we lost every player on the team tomorrow.

I agree. Clean house on the coaching staff and other than Jackson I don't care who transfers.

[twballgame9]

positive. Both are good and I would love to keep one--and I think they will. Hell, Mo was good too--he got a lot of message board shit for things that were not his fault.

I hope this is an April Fool's joke. WTF did Cassara do?

He's probably the guy that taught Roche to be the ultimate practice player.

Just busting your balls addict.

[bignick33]

I'd be down for keeping one of them, particularly Murphy. I don't think I'd make it a mandate of accepting the job (like GDF did in the case of Spaz).

[Pookie84]

Neutral. Keeping Pat Duquette around or not keeping Pat Duquette around is not going to be the make-or-break decision for the next head coach. Unless he's being kept around as the top assistant...that would be a problem.

[twballgame9]

Negative. No reason not to clean house. Outside of Jackson, I couldn't care less if we lost every player on the team tomorrow.

I agree. Clean house on the coaching staff and other than Jackson I don't care who transfers.

I don't want any of the seniors to transfer either. Can't do anything to fill their spots, and I still think that a good coach could win a ton of games with those guys plus Jackson and Elmore. No reason to clean house on players if the players still there can get a good coach to 20 wins in his first season, and still provide him with 7 open scholarships for the year after to rebuild.

[Thornton Melon]

If a new coach desired to keep some continuity, absolutely. "Was willing" suggests that is not their desire.

If the new coach cannot be trusted to choose his assistants without interference they shouldn't be trusted to be the head coach. This goes both ways. I have no issue with Al Skinner desiring to keep his staff any more than I have issue with St John's not hiring him for it - they didn't trust his choice.

[thebs19]

Pat Duquette was mentioned in a paper this morning as a candidate for Holy Cross' opening. I also think the best thing I've ever read on him was that he kind of fell into landing Biko after he decomitted from USC (unbeknown to Pat himself as he was scouting a teammate or opponent, forget which). Maybe he was impressive as hell against HS kids, but thats not a great eye for talent, to me.

That said, I'd be lying if I said I knew anything about Duquette's day to day work. if the new coach WANTED him, great. If he wanted an entirely new staff, thatd be great too.

As a side: Cassara is heading to Hofstra with Welch.

[Art Vandelay]

Negative. No reason not to clean house. Outside of Jackson, I couldn't care less if we lost every player on the team tomorrow.

I agree. Clean house on the coaching staff and other than Jackson I don't care who transfers.

I don't want any of the seniors to transfer either. Can't do anything to fill their spots, and I still think that a good coach could win a ton of games with those guys plus Jackson and Elmore. No reason to clean house on players if the players still there can get a good coach to 20 wins in his first season, and still provide him with 7 open scholarships for the year after to rebuild.

I'm not saying I want anyone to leave, just that it wouldn't bother me for anyone but Jackson. The seniors aren't going anywhere. No one wants a senior transfer and I'm not sure who would take them anyway. Paris and Southern suck out loud. Sanders did nothing this year to make anyone want him. Not really much in it for them to leave anyway. Why not finish at BC. Its not like any of them are NBA bound.

[eepstein0]

Neutral. Keeping Pat Duquette around or not keeping Pat Duquette around is not going to be the make-or-break decision for the next head coach. Unless he's being kept around as the top assistant...that would be a problem.

Keeping those guys in their current roles probably isn't going to matter a whole lot one way or another I guess. Cassera and the other moron who's name is escaping me need to be escorted away from the basketball offices.

[Eagledom]

Negative. No reason not to clean house. Outside of Jackson, I couldn't care less if we lost every player on the team tomorrow.

I agree. Clean house on the coaching staff and other than Jackson I don't care who transfers.

Its not like any of them are NBA bound.

This is going to piss off Mrs. Sanders.

[bcaddict]

positive. Both are good and I would love to keep one--and I think they will. Hell, Mo was good too--he got a lot of message board shit for things that were not his fault.

I hope this is an April Fool's joke. WTF did Cassara do?

People expected Cassara to walk in and recruit like mad but they didn't appreciate/understand the circumstances under which Al lets his assistants recruit. He only gives a long leash to those who know the type of players he wants and those who have been around for a while--i.e. Coen, Cooley, Duq. Lotta red tape for Mo.

As for what he did, he did the opponent scouting (and as TW pointed out, taught Roche how to dominate in practice haha). He's loved by the players and loves the school. Under a different boss with a little more freedom, I think he'd be a good assistant. He won't last long unemployed--guaranteed to be picked up soon. If you want to turn your fire at an assistant, I'm all for leveling Bonzie.

I do think that a new coach should bring in mostly (if not all) of his guys, but I do think if they hire a Mooney as I hope (if not Pearl) it would help to have a BC guy on the bench as well--someone who knows what it's like to be at BC. Murphy or Duq would be great in that regard.

[HJS]

I know how our AD feels, but if a new coach was willing to keep Duquette and/or Preston Murphy on the staff to help transition, would that be a positive or negative in your mind?

I take it that our esteemed AD has decided it is a pre-requisite that the new coach allow GDF to pick his staff (ala Jags and Spaz) and that Duke and Murph are BB's version of Spaz and Guvs.

Why does Gene suck at everything? I can think of only 2 coaches willing to do that. One is an older guy with excellent Xs and Os. The other is a little younger and real big rah-rah guy. Ladies and gentlemen... I present you with your AD's choice to lead the BB program... Coach Keloid!

[bcaddict]

but I think Duq's got a great chance to get the HC job, so I don't think he'll be available.

[bignick33]

but I think Duq's got a great chance to get the HC job, so I don't think he'll be available.

This, I'm not thrilled with. What are your thoughts?

[BCEagle74]

negative

Thanks.

[bignick33]

but I think Duq's got a great chance to get the HC job, so I don't think he'll be available.

This, I'm not thrilled with. What are your thoughts?

Edit, by "HC" you probably meant "Holy Cross." I read it as "Head Coach." My bad.

[HJS]

but I think Duq's got a great chance to get the HC job, so I don't think he'll be available.

This, I'm not thrilled with. What are your thoughts?

Edit, by "HC" you probably meant "Holy Cross." I read it as "Head Coach." My bad.

Did the AD at Holy Cross say something like he went against his better judgment and hired someone with no previous head coaching experience??? Duke ain't getting that job. But, don't worry. Coach Keloid will keep him around.

[BCBaseball]

Duke is a good coach, and does a lot of off the court stuff of value to the program, too.

Gene values his contributions...think of how your job performance can be affected, negatively and positively, by your boss before you jump to conclusions. One recruit, heading to a Big Ten school next year, once told me that he was down with Pat but didn't think the Head Coach wanted him. Sums it up...and that happened consistently.

Gene is there on a day-to-day basis, while we are not.

[Logitano]

Would Duke be willing to accept a demotion? Gene will not be able to tell his new coach who his top assistant will be unless of course it is Cooley or Coen who would probably be comfortable with Duke. He can require that a member of the old staff be kept on but I would say probably not be able to tell an outside hire who the top assistant needs to be.
For the homojs crowd doesn't this bring us back to my original point that Gene did not start this with the intent of dismissing Al but was just looking for a staff change or two? Seriously, after watching the team for the last 4 years since **** ******** was dismissed I do not think a change in staff would be out of line.

[ATLeagle]

I wouldn't mind a Cooley/Coen staff with Duquette on it. I think we could get good results. I just get frustrated that our AD talks about an open search and a lot of interest and then gives clear signals as to how he wants the program run. We know Pearl isn't coming regardless, but let's say Al left after 2005 and we had a chance to hire Pearl from UW-Milwaukee. If Gene hinted to him that he couldn't pick his own staff, do you think he would have taken the job? Do you think it will give Donahue and Mooney pause?

[eepstein0]

I wouldn't mind a Cooley/Coen staff with Duquette on it. I think we could get good results. I just get frustrated that our AD talks about an open search and a lot of interest and then gives clear signals as to how he wants the program run. We know Pearl isn't coming regardless, but let's say Al left after 2005 and we had a chance to hire Pearl from UW-Milwaukee. If Gene hinted to him that he couldn't pick his own staff, do you think he would have taken the job? Do you think it will give Donahue and Mooney pause?

For the 1,000,000th time coming from me, do not hire from the Al Skinner coaching tree. Please go hire Donahue Gene. It's not that I don't think Coen/Cooley could win 20 games here or that they are good guys, but Donahue is going to be the next big thing.

[BCBaseball]

Staff change, philosophy change...knowing what the answer would be.

Al = surprised
Gene = not surprised

[ATLeagle]

People expected Cassara to walk in and recruit like mad but they didn't appreciate/understand the circumstances under which Al lets his assistants recruit. He only gives a long leash to those who know the type of players he wants and those who have been around for a while--i.e. Coen, Cooley, Duq. Lotta red tape for Mo.

I like Mo, but I am calling BS on this. Murphy landed Sanders and Southern as a GA and then Director of Ops guy.