when did andy katz and bob ryan swap roles?

[goeagles12]

Bob Ryan today was praising GDF for getting rid of skinner.

Andy Katz during halftime on espn 2 ripped GDF saying you can't do better than Al.

Gottfreid took a shot saying BC is neither a football or basketball school.

[apbc12]

Bob Ryan today was praising GDF for getting rid of skinner.

Andy Katz during halftime on espn 2 ripped GDF saying you can't do better than Al.

Gottfreid took a shot saying BC is neither a football or basketball school.

Who the fuck is Gottfried?

[goeagles12]

doug gottlieb

[apbc12]

doug gottlieb

Ah. I wonder if his probation is over yet.

[BCEagle74]

If these 3 worthless baby maker schmuck overrated House stooges Andy Katz, Doug Gottlieb, Seth Davis were all killed in a elevator accident, we would be blessed with the extra time and great insights of Jay Bilas, Bob Knight, Joe Lunardi, Bill Raferty, and the best Greg Anthony who has been superb lately.

Bruce Pearl on the sidelines is like explosive Fred Astaire dancing and singing while he coaches. He is like a brilliant maestro directing all his tools in front of huge crowds of cheering adoring fans.

Al Skinner is like a old man in a old turtleneck chewing a wad of tobacco sauntering up after he has to muster up enough energy to call time out, which he usually ends up with 3 left when the game is over to make the misery of his Ronco plastic white board "ETCH-A-TURNOVER" much less painful for te empty seats and fnas walking out with 10 minutes to go.

[talon]

Bob Ryan today was praising GDF for getting rid of skinner.

Andy Katz during halftime on espn 2 ripped GDF saying you can't do better than Al.

Gottfreid took a shot saying BC is neither a football or basketball school.

Who the fuck is Gottfried?

[DomingoOrtiz]

Katz's father is a prof at BCLaw. I apologize if that is common knowledge.

[Cadillac90]

If these 3 worthless baby maker schmuck overrated House stooges Andy Katz, Doug Gottlieb, Seth Davis were all killed in a elevator accident, we would be blessed with the extra time and great insights of Jay Bilas, Bob Knight, Joe Lunardi, Bill Raferty, and the best Greg Anthony who has been superb lately.

Bruce Pearl on the sidelines is like explosive Fred Astaire dancing and singing while he coaches. He is like a brilliant maestro directing all his tools in front of huge crowds of cheering adoring fans.

Al Skinner is like a old man in a old turtleneck chewing a wad of tobacco sauntering up after he has to muster up enough energy to call time out, which he usually ends up with 3 left when the game is over to make the misery of his Ronco plastic white board "ETCH-A-TURNOVER" much less painful for te empty seats and fnas walking out with 10 minutes to go.

The sad part in this whole thing is that GDF will have a chance to shut these fuckers up but he won't because he'll fuck up this coaching search like he did with Spaz and end up hiring Coen or Cooley.

[DomingoOrtiz]

Katz's father is a prof at BCLaw. I apologize if that is common knowledge.

was his grandfather ever king of africa?

Place put in.

There was one game where the entire pregame made the game a battle between Kiwi's dead grandfather and the dead brother, or some relative, of a player on the other team. Anyone remeber that one? ESPN can't stand the thought of fans just wanting to watch a good football game.

[TontoKowalski]

Katz's father is a prof at BCLaw. I apologize if that is common knowledge.

was his grandfather ever king of africa?

Place put in.

There was one game where the entire pregame made the game a battle between Kiwi's dead grandfather and the dead brother, or some relative, of a player on the other team. Anyone remeber that one? ESPN can't stand the thought of fans just wanting to watch a good football game.

Kiwi's grandfather may have been King of Africa but it had to have been his maternal grandfather - because his dad is Jumbo Elliott.

[BC '00]

Katz's father is a prof at BCLaw. I apologize if that is common knowledge.

I hadn't heard that...had wondered why Katz would have any special interest and insight into BC. Thanks for the info.

[twballgame9]

Katz's father is a prof at BCLaw. I apologize if that is common knowledge.

I hadn't heard that...had wondered why Katz would have any special interest and insight into BC. Thanks for the info.

Seriously? I thought this was common knowledge. We mention it every time Katz writes an article, like when he said BC had MAACtalent enough to be top 25 pre season.

[twballgame9]

Never had a class with him myself. http://www.bc.edu/schools/law/fac-staff/deans-faculty/katzs.html

[angrychicken]

Katz's father is a prof at BCLaw. I apologize if that is common knowledge.

[BrightonEagle]

this isn't just andy katz, but how frustrating is it to hear everyone how skinner made the tournament 7 of the last 10 years. that is such a misleading stat. college coaches are judged by what they do in the tournament (see tom izzo) and skinner was pretty bad. i don't feel like doing the research, but hasn't he never beaten a single digit team in the tournament.

[MilitantEagle]

this isn't just andy katz, but how frustrating is it to hear everyone how skinner made the tournament 7 of the last 10 years. that is such a misleading stat. college coaches are judged by what they do in the tournament (see tom izzo) and skinner was pretty bad. i don't feel like doing the research, but hasn't he never beaten a single digit team in the tournament.

I think that is correct. Based on memory...
In 2001 they beat So. Utah (14). Lost to USC (6).
In 2002, they lost to Texas (6) in the first round
In 2003, they missed
In 2004, they beat Utah (11) and lost to GT (3).
In 2005, they beat Penn (13) and lost to UW-Mil (12)
In 2006, they beat Pacific (13) and Montana (12). Lost to Nova (1)
In 2007, they beat TTech (10) and lost to GTown (3)
2008 - missed
2009 - lost to USC (10)
2010 - missed

[MilitantEagle]

this isn't just andy katz, but how frustrating is it to hear everyone how skinner made the tournament 7 of the last 10 years. that is such a misleading stat. college coaches are judged by what they do in the tournament (see tom izzo) and skinner was pretty bad. i don't feel like doing the research, but hasn't he never beaten a single digit team in the tournament.

I think that is correct. Based on memory...
In 2001 they beat So. Utah (14). Lost to USC (6).
In 2002, they lost to Texas (6) in the first round
In 2003, they missed
In 2004, they beat Utah (11) and lost to GT (3).
In 2005, they beat Penn (13) and lost to UW-Mil (12)
In 2006, they beat Pacific (13) and Montana (12). Lost to Nova (1)
In 2007, they beat TTech (10) and lost to GTown (2)
2008 - missed
2009 - lost to USC (10)
2010 - missed

Looking at it again -wow - these are the teams he beat in the NCAAs - So Utah, Utah, Penn, Pacific, Montana, Texas Tech. Not very impressive.

[twballgame9]

this isn't just andy katz, but how frustrating is it to hear everyone how skinner made the tournament 7 of the last 10 years. that is such a misleading stat. college coaches are judged by what they do in the tournament (see tom izzo) and skinner was pretty bad. i don't feel like doing the research, but hasn't he never beaten a single digit team in the tournament.

I think that is correct. Based on memory...
In 2001 they beat So. Utah (14). Lost to USC (6).
In 2002, they lost to Texas (6) in the first round
In 2003, they missed
In 2004, they beat Utah (11) and lost to GT (3).
In 2005, they beat Penn (13) and lost to UW-Mil (12)
In 2006, they beat Pacific (13) and Montana (12). Lost to Nova (1)
In 2007, they beat TTech (10) and lost to GTown (2)
2008 - missed
2009 - lost to USC (10)
2010 - missed

Looking at it again -wow - these are the teams he beat in the NCAAs - So Utah, Utah, Penn, Pacific, Montana, Texas Tech. Not very impressive.

The flip side being that with the notable exception of board favorite Bruce Pearl's squad, he lost to some pretty impressive squads. National runner up GT. Final Four G'Town. Number 1 seed Nova. A Texas team with TJ Ford and a USC team with Clancy, Tepagnier and Scalabrine. Last year's USC team wasn't great, but had some sick athletes.

For the most part, Al's teams played to chalk. One bad loss and no big upsets.

[auggiebc]

Ryan column from Globe this morning on Skinner. Agree 100% with everything here.

http://www.boston.com/sports/colleges/m ... leges-wire

[b0mberMan]

I think Katz's siding with Al tells you that his main source at BC is Al or one of Al's guys is all.

I like Katz in that he actually takes a look and thinks about what he writes when he writes about BC, but he's still a journalist playing the sources game to get his info.

[cvilleagle]

Ryan column from Globe this morning on Skinner. Agree 100% with everything here.

http://www.boston.com/sports/colleges/m ... leges-wire

Yep, he really showed that he understands what was going on here.

[cremins]

yeah actually agree with everything that bob ryan had to say in his article and i usually
dont like anything he writes. i wonder who he got his info from because i doubt that he
has even seen a bc game in life 5 years.
was surprised at katz's opinion also, he is a great writer and its great to have a big
time writer talk about bc even when we shouldnt be talked about. weird that he was
so blind to the fact that al needed his alpha dog leaders on the team to help coach the
team while he was alseep on the sidelines. hope he realizes it soon that it was the best
thing bc could have done

[Reverend Mike]

Katz's father is a prof at BCLaw. I apologize if that is common knowledge.

was his grandfather ever king of africa?

Place put in.

There was one game where the entire pregame made the game a battle between Kiwi's dead grandfather and the dead brother, or some relative, of a player on the other team. Anyone remeber that one? ESPN can't stand the thought of fans just wanting to watch a good football game.

Kiwi's grandfather may have been King of Africa but it had to have been his maternal grandfather - because his dad is Jumbo Elliott.

You stole two of my gags in one post. My lawyers will be in touch (unless you live in Puerto Rico where a different set of copyright and sweepstakes laws apply).

[Reverend Mike]

Katz's father is a prof at BCLaw. I apologize if that is common knowledge.

was his grandfather ever king of africa?

Place put in.

There was one game where the entire pregame made the game a battle between Kiwi's dead grandfather and the dead brother, or some relative, of a player on the other team. Anyone remeber that one? ESPN can't stand the thought of fans just wanting to watch a good football game.

Kiwi's grandfather may have been King of Africa but it had to have been his maternal grandfather - because his dad is Jumbo Elliott.

You stole two of my gags in one post. My lawyers will be in touch (unless you live in Puerto Rico where a different set of copyright and sweepstakes laws apply).

go bitch to your lover-boy jerrod

Ahem. It's "Gerrod" with a "g" as in GTFOOMAM!!!

[BCEagle74]

If these 3 worthless baby maker schmuck overrated House stooges Andy Katz, Doug Gottlieb, Seth Davis were all killed in a elevator accident, we would be blessed with the extra time and great insights of Jay Bilas, Bob Knight, Joe Lunardi, Bill Raferty, and the best Greg Anthony who has been superb lately.

Bruce Pearl on the sidelines is like explosive Fred Astaire dancing and singing while he coaches. He is like a brilliant maestro directing all his tools in front of huge crowds of cheering adoring fans.

Al Skinner is like a old man in a old turtleneck chewing a wad of tobacco sauntering up after he has to muster up enough energy to call time out, which he usually ends up with 3 left when the game is over to make the misery of his Ronco plastic white board "ETCH-A-TURNOVER" much less painful for te empty seats and fans walking out with 10 minutes to go.

FUCK SETH DAVIS.
FUCK ANDY KATZ.
FUCK DOUG GOTTLIEB.

Bob Ryan was right. I was right.

Barcolounger retires 3 years ago and fucked BC outta $3M.

FUCK EVERYBODY.

Mack, Stevens or Pearl...or this was a waste.

Ethan and Joel Coen...you may have lost a brother, but BC has gained a Head Coach.

[TontoKowalski]

You stole two of my gags in one post. My lawyers will be in touch (unless you live in Puerto Rico where a different set of copyright and sweepstakes laws apply).

My attorney's attorney has informed me that gags enter the public domain after 9 years OR a wholesale board migration. If he is incorrect in this matter, I invite your zeppelin pilot to keelhaul him.

[eagle9903]

i might be nitpicking here, but would keel hauling with a zeppelin be effective? zeppelins don't have barnacles. Conversely, I suspect a zeppeling propeller might bring a new level of unpleasantness to the ordeal.

[DomingoOrtiz]

this isn't just andy katz, but how frustrating is it to hear everyone how skinner made the tournament 7 of the last 10 years. that is such a misleading stat. college coaches are judged by what they do in the tournament (see tom izzo) and skinner was pretty bad. i don't feel like doing the research, but hasn't he never beaten a single digit team in the tournament.

I think that is correct. Based on memory...
In 2001 they beat So. Utah (14). Lost to USC (6).
In 2002, they lost to Texas (6) in the first round
In 2003, they missed
In 2004, they beat Utah (11) and lost to GT (3).
In 2005, they beat Penn (13) and lost to UW-Mil (12)
In 2006, they beat Pacific (13) and Montana (12). Lost to Nova (1)
In 2007, they beat TTech (10) and lost to GTown (2)
2008 - missed
2009 - lost to USC (10)
2010 - missed

Looking at it again -wow - these are the teams he beat in the NCAAs - So Utah, Utah, Penn, Pacific, Montana, Texas Tech. Not very impressive.

The flip side being that with the notable exception of board favorite Bruce Pearl's squad, he lost to some pretty impressive squads. National runner up GT. Final Four G'Town. Number 1 seed Nova. A Texas team with TJ Ford and a USC team with Clancy, Tepagnier and Scalabrine. Last year's USC team wasn't great, but had some sick athletes.

For the most part, Al's teams played to chalk. One bad loss and no big upsets.

How was losing to the 12 seed UW-Mil not a big upset? I thought AS was a pretty good coach but his NCAA record was indefensible; no upset wins and many upset losses.

[HJS]

this isn't just andy katz, but how frustrating is it to hear everyone how skinner made the tournament 7 of the last 10 years. that is such a misleading stat. college coaches are judged by what they do in the tournament (see tom izzo) and skinner was pretty bad. i don't feel like doing the research, but hasn't he never beaten a single digit team in the tournament.

I think that is correct. Based on memory...
In 2001 they beat So. Utah (14). Lost to USC (6).
In 2002, they lost to Texas (6) in the first round
In 2003, they missed
In 2004, they beat Utah (11) and lost to GT (3).
In 2005, they beat Penn (13) and lost to UW-Mil (12)
In 2006, they beat Pacific (13) and Montana (12). Lost to Nova (1)
In 2007, they beat TTech (10) and lost to GTown (2)
2008 - missed
2009 - lost to USC (10)
2010 - missed

Looking at it again -wow - these are the teams he beat in the NCAAs - So Utah, Utah, Penn, Pacific, Montana, Texas Tech. Not very impressive.

The flip side being that with the notable exception of board favorite Bruce Pearl's squad, he lost to some pretty impressive squads. National runner up GT. Final Four G'Town. Number 1 seed Nova. A Texas team with TJ Ford and a USC team with Clancy, Tepagnier and Scalabrine. Last year's USC team wasn't great, but had some sick athletes.

For the most part, Al's teams played to chalk. One bad loss and no big upsets.

How was losing to the 12 seed UW-Mil not a big upset? I thought AS was a pretty good coach but his NCAA record was indefensible; no upset wins and many upset losses.

No big upsets=Al didn't upset anyone in the tourney
One bad loss=Losing to Bruce Pearl

[bignick33]

this isn't just andy katz, but how frustrating is it to hear everyone how skinner made the tournament 7 of the last 10 years. that is such a misleading stat. college coaches are judged by what they do in the tournament (see tom izzo) and skinner was pretty bad. i don't feel like doing the research, but hasn't he never beaten a single digit team in the tournament.

I think that is correct. Based on memory...
In 2001 they beat So. Utah (14). Lost to USC (6).
In 2002, they lost to Texas (6) in the first round
In 2003, they missed
In 2004, they beat Utah (11) and lost to GT (3).
In 2005, they beat Penn (13) and lost to UW-Mil (12)
In 2006, they beat Pacific (13) and Montana (12). Lost to Nova (1)
In 2007, they beat TTech (10) and lost to GTown (2)
2008 - missed
2009 - lost to USC (10)
2010 - missed

Looking at it again -wow - these are the teams he beat in the NCAAs - So Utah, Utah, Penn, Pacific, Montana, Texas Tech. Not very impressive.

The flip side being that with the notable exception of board favorite Bruce Pearl's squad, he lost to some pretty impressive squads. National runner up GT. Final Four G'Town. Number 1 seed Nova. A Texas team with TJ Ford and a USC team with Clancy, Tepagnier and Scalabrine. Last year's USC team wasn't great, but had some sick athletes.

For the most part, Al's teams played to chalk. One bad loss and no big upsets.

How was losing to the 12 seed UW-Mil not a big upset? I thought AS was a pretty good coach but his NCAA record was indefensible; no upset wins and many upset losses.

Domingo, you're better than that.