eepstein0 {l Wrote}:There have been some performances this season that have just completely thrown me over the edge on this topic. Both FSU games were horrible in different ways. The game @ VT was pathetic and the NCST game was another example. Consistently losing close games = really bad coaching. I'm so sick and tired of Skinner, and it's really to the point where I don't want him to have another year at the school.
I never thought I'd say this, but it's getting to the point where for the long-term goals of BC Basketball, if it means getting rid of Skinner to lose 20 or so games next season, that might be best for the program. I'm not cheering for losses, don't misconstrue what I'm saying.
bcsoxfan12 {l Wrote}:Sitting on the opposite side of the court from the bench @ a few games this year I have made it a point to watch him instead of the action during different points of the games. I see a different coach from even a few years ago. He himself seems to b either disgusted with his team, the school or who knows maybe himself. He really doesn’t have the fire and passion of even 2006. In all seriousness, I wonder what happened to him!!?? He has that old yeller…..please take me out back, just do everyone a favor and end it all look. That’s not the kind of coach we want to have here and not the type of guy that has demonstrated that he can lead or motivate his players. Wishful thinking that GDF would ever fire him, but unless he goes all incredible hulk, rips one of his eastern clothing suits and goes after gene and mutilates him at a staff meeting…..*just dream about that for a second*…..he’s here to stay until HE wants to go
eepstein0 {l Wrote}:I don't buy that he doesn't care, because when Ravanel got hacked yesterday with about a minute left, Al absolutely flipped out on the sideline screaming at the ref. Al cares about his players and cares about the results, he just flat out sucks as an in-game coach. It's also his style to let his players work through the on the court problems so that later in the season they can figure it out for themselves instead of having to call TO's every 30 seconds. Al cares and is seemingly a good guy, he just blows at the whole coaching aspect of his job, which last time I checked is important.
eepstein0 {l Wrote}:bcsoxfan12 {l Wrote}:Sitting on the opposite side of the court from the bench @ a few games this year I have made it a point to watch him instead of the action during different points of the games. I see a different coach from even a few years ago. He himself seems to b either disgusted with his team, the school or who knows maybe himself. He really doesn’t have the fire and passion of even 2006. In all seriousness, I wonder what happened to him!!?? He has that old yeller…..please take me out back, just do everyone a favor and end it all look. That’s not the kind of coach we want to have here and not the type of guy that has demonstrated that he can lead or motivate his players. Wishful thinking that GDF would ever fire him, but unless he goes all incredible hulk, rips one of his eastern clothing suits and goes after gene and mutilates him at a staff meeting…..*just dream about that for a second*…..he’s here to stay until HE wants to go
I don't buy that he doesn't care, because when Ravanel got hacked yesterday with about a minute left, Al absolutely flipped out on the sideline screaming at the ref. Al cares about his players and cares about the results, he just flat out sucks as an in-game coach. It's also his style to let his players work through the on the court problems so that later in the season they can figure it out for themselves instead of having to call TO's every 30 seconds. Al cares and is seemingly a good guy, he just blows at the whole coaching aspect of his job, which last time I checked is important.
pick6pedro {l Wrote}:eepstein0 {l Wrote}:I don't buy that he doesn't care, because when Ravanel got hacked yesterday with about a minute left, Al absolutely flipped out on the sideline screaming at the ref. Al cares about his players and cares about the results, he just flat out sucks as an in-game coach. It's also his style to let his players work through the on the court problems so that later in the season they can figure it out for themselves instead of having to call TO's every 30 seconds. Al cares and is seemingly a good guy, he just blows at the whole coaching aspect of his job, which last time I checked is important.
I agree for the most part, just want to expand a bit. As with most aspects of coaching, allowing your team to figure things out on their own is a strategy that can only work for certain teams. Obviously this team is not one of them. The major problem isn't Al's preference or tendency to coach this way because it can certainly be a great teaching tool. The problem lies in his inflexibility to abandon things that aren't working. I don't think it's too big an assumption that he recruits with his specific techniques in mind. However, he has no clue what to do when it's blatantly obvious that his long-standing techniques are either 1) not working in certain games or 2) not working with certain rosters. A good coach can adjust accordingly to give his team the best chance to win on a game-by-game or season-by-season basis; Al does not. This (obviously) leads to all types of problems.
bcbabe {l Wrote}:What do you losers do/have to talk about when the basketball season is over with? (Just curious.)
*eats lasagna*
I eat lasagna. What do you want to do to me after the absketball season?
Inquire within.
Just curious.
eepstein0 {l Wrote}:pick6pedro {l Wrote}:eepstein0 {l Wrote}:I don't buy that he doesn't care, because when Ravanel got hacked yesterday with about a minute left, Al absolutely flipped out on the sideline screaming at the ref. Al cares about his players and cares about the results, he just flat out sucks as an in-game coach. It's also his style to let his players work through the on the court problems so that later in the season they can figure it out for themselves instead of having to call TO's every 30 seconds. Al cares and is seemingly a good guy, he just blows at the whole coaching aspect of his job, which last time I checked is important.
I agree for the most part, just want to expand a bit. As with most aspects of coaching, allowing your team to figure things out on their own is a strategy that can only work for certain teams. Obviously this team is not one of them. The major problem isn't Al's preference or tendency to coach this way because it can certainly be a great teaching tool. The problem lies in his inflexibility to abandon things that aren't working. I don't think it's too big an assumption that he recruits with his specific techniques in mind. However, he has no clue what to do when it's blatantly obvious that his long-standing techniques are either 1) not working in certain games or 2) not working with certain rosters. A good coach can adjust accordingly to give his team the best chance to win on a game-by-game or season-by-season basis; Al does not. This (obviously) leads to all types of problems.
Skinner is the most stubborn coach in America. He does something's very well, but others are atrocious.
bcbabe {l Wrote}:But Eaglllle, I have 11 thumbs and my future baby's daddy MUST be the most eloquent of eloquent of banjo players! Are these 2 deal-breakers for you? *crosses fingers and chants: "Please say 'No', please say 'No'..."*
bcbabe {l Wrote}:Hot damn, Eagle, I said HOT DAMN! I knewed you was the one!
Screw the Final 4: You and me got places to go, baby.
BCFAN94 {l Wrote}:eepstein0 {l Wrote}:pick6pedro {l Wrote}:eepstein0 {l Wrote}:I don't buy that he doesn't care, because when Ravanel got hacked yesterday with about a minute left, Al absolutely flipped out on the sideline screaming at the ref. Al cares about his players and cares about the results, he just flat out sucks as an in-game coach. It's also his style to let his players work through the on the court problems so that later in the season they can figure it out for themselves instead of having to call TO's every 30 seconds. Al cares and is seemingly a good guy, he just blows at the whole coaching aspect of his job, which last time I checked is important.
I agree for the most part, just want to expand a bit. As with most aspects of coaching, allowing your team to figure things out on their own is a strategy that can only work for certain teams. Obviously this team is not one of them. The major problem isn't Al's preference or tendency to coach this way because it can certainly be a great teaching tool. The problem lies in his inflexibility to abandon things that aren't working. I don't think it's too big an assumption that he recruits with his specific techniques in mind. However, he has no clue what to do when it's blatantly obvious that his long-standing techniques are either 1) not working in certain games or 2) not working with certain rosters. A good coach can adjust accordingly to give his team the best chance to win on a game-by-game or season-by-season basis; Al does not. This (obviously) leads to all types of problems.
Skinner is the most stubborn coach in America. He does something's very well, but others are atrocious.
Just wondering......what do you think he does he do well?
eepstein0 {l Wrote}:
First, '74, stop hijacking the thread.
eepstein0 {l Wrote}:
Second, Al finds under-recruited kids and turns them into good players. His adjustments in between games (we were well prepared for Michigan and South Carolina) can also be effective. His in-game coaching is just awful, and frankly this over-rides anything else for me. I also think he's terrible at motivating college age kids, Al's better suited for an NBA team.
Eagledom {l Wrote}:eepstein0 {l Wrote}:
Second, Al finds under-recruited kids and turns them into good players. His adjustments in between games (we were well prepared for Michigan and South Carolina) can also be effective. His in-game coaching is just awful, and frankly this over-rides anything else for me. I also think he's terrible at motivating college age kids, Al's better suited for an NBA team.
I am so sick of hearing that he "developed" Smith, Bell, and Dudley (even though its THREE examples in 14 years)....they were all players the day they came in their freshman years. Under the radar? Yes. Player development, my ass (southern, Sanders, and paris have REALLY improved!). Adjustments between games? losing to Harvard for a 2nd straight year pretty much ends that argument and trumps two good games against 2 CRAP teams this year.
eepstein0 {l Wrote}:BCFAN94 {l Wrote}:eepstein0 {l Wrote}:pick6pedro {l Wrote}:eepstein0 {l Wrote}:I don't buy that he doesn't care, because when Ravanel got hacked yesterday with about a minute left, Al absolutely flipped out on the sideline screaming at the ref. Al cares about his players and cares about the results, he just flat out sucks as an in-game coach. It's also his style to let his players work through the on the court problems so that later in the season they can figure it out for themselves instead of having to call TO's every 30 seconds. Al cares and is seemingly a good guy, he just blows at the whole coaching aspect of his job, which last time I checked is important.
I agree for the most part, just want to expand a bit. As with most aspects of coaching, allowing your team to figure things out on their own is a strategy that can only work for certain teams. Obviously this team is not one of them. The major problem isn't Al's preference or tendency to coach this way because it can certainly be a great teaching tool. The problem lies in his inflexibility to abandon things that aren't working. I don't think it's too big an assumption that he recruits with his specific techniques in mind. However, he has no clue what to do when it's blatantly obvious that his long-standing techniques are either 1) not working in certain games or 2) not working with certain rosters. A good coach can adjust accordingly to give his team the best chance to win on a game-by-game or season-by-season basis; Al does not. This (obviously) leads to all types of problems.
Skinner is the most stubborn coach in America. He does something's very well, but others are atrocious.
Just wondering......what do you think he does he do well?
First, '74, stop hijacking the thread.
Second, Al finds under-recruited kids and turns them into good players. His adjustments in between games (we were well prepared for Michigan and South Carolina) can also be effective. His in-game coaching is just awful, and frankly this over-rides anything else for me. I also think he's terrible at motivating college age kids, Al's better suited for an NBA team.
BCFAN94 {l Wrote}:
I'd agree if he was consistent and did something special but many coaches find unknown HS players too.
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