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Brady Heslip?

Redshirt him.
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Play him.
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Your views on Brady Heslip

Postby TheAngryChair on Sat Jan 02, 2010 11:07 pm

Get'm in there or redshirt him. Vote and/or discuss

Consider:
1. The future
2. The way the season is looking
3. Maine

My personal view is that he should redshirt. This extra half year with the team will serve him very well, and this season isn't looking great, so why burn the shirt? Besides, that upcoming class will look much better with him.
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Re: Your views on Brady Heslip

Postby eaglesmith on Sun Jan 03, 2010 1:52 am

This season is a wash. We're not making the tournament, so why waste the kid's redshirt on half a season that won't matter?
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Re: Your views on Brady Heslip

Postby auggiebc on Sun Jan 03, 2010 11:01 am

this team needs as much help as it can get.

sanders is the only player on the team who can make a jump shot.
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Re: Your views on Brady Heslip

Postby BCEagle74 on Sun Jan 03, 2010 11:06 am

Tough call.

I say start him and see if he can play some defense and repalce Biko OLE Paris.

Mostly all but 2 ACC games left? that is a lotta hoop experience for next year.

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Re: Your views on Brady Heslip

Postby Heights on Sun Jan 03, 2010 12:28 pm

Play him if he's for real. A guy that comes off screens and knocks down the jumper could have bailed us out yesterday. This is not a tourney team, so get him a year under his belt playing with Reggie so we have some sort of core next year.

Basketball is not like football where you need to physically develop as much and be ready for the pounding and complex schemes. It's the flex for cripes sake.
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Re: Your views on Brady Heslip

Postby pick6pedro on Sun Jan 03, 2010 1:25 pm

The view on whether to play him or not largely comes down to whether this is a lame duck season already. Those who think it is do not want to waste him. Those who think it is not know that he offers a lot that BC may be lacking.
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Re: Your views on Brady Heslip

Postby Second Round Skinner on Sun Jan 03, 2010 1:36 pm

You guys want to sacrifice the 2nd half of his senior so that he can play in this piece of shit season? Playing him this year shouldn't even be an option.
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Re: Your views on Brady Heslip

Postby auggiebc on Sun Jan 03, 2010 1:37 pm

pick6pedro {l Wrote}:The view on whether to play him or not largely comes down to whether this is a lame duck season already. Those who think it is do not want to waste him. Those who think it is not know that he offers a lot that BC may be lacking.


If he can help this team win 8-9 ACC games, then it's worth playing him.
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Re: Your views on Brady Heslip

Postby eepstein0 on Sun Jan 03, 2010 2:01 pm

auggiebc {l Wrote}:
pick6pedro {l Wrote}:The view on whether to play him or not largely comes down to whether this is a lame duck season already. Those who think it is do not want to waste him. Those who think it is not know that he offers a lot that BC may be lacking.


If he can help this team win 8-9 ACC games, then it's worth playing him.


Here's where 8 or 9 ACC wins puts you.

NIT
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Re: Your views on Brady Heslip

Postby RyanBC on Sun Jan 03, 2010 2:28 pm

Second Round Skinner {l Wrote}:You guys want to sacrifice the 2nd half of his senior so that he can play in this piece of shit season? Playing him this year shouldn't even be an option.


has nothing to do with "half a season" ..
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Re: Your views on Brady Heslip

Postby RyanBC on Sun Jan 03, 2010 2:29 pm

redshirting is for football. Let's roll.
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Re: Your views on Brady Heslip

Postby Shredder on Sun Jan 03, 2010 2:43 pm

If he is currently better than Paris, Jackson and Sanders, then it makes sense for him to play and help the team. So far, I have not heard or seen anything to suggest that he would be an immediate contributor. While the growing consensus on this board is that BC's players are lazy hacks and Skinner's offense and gameplans are stupid, it does take time for a player to adapt to a college system and the college game.
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Re: Your views on Brady Heslip

Postby Second Round Skinner on Sun Jan 03, 2010 8:14 pm

RyanBC {l Wrote}:
Second Round Skinner {l Wrote}:You guys want to sacrifice the 2nd half of his senior so that he can play in this piece of shit season? Playing him this year shouldn't even be an option.


has nothing to do with "half a season" ..


Won't he be ineligible the 2nd semester of his last season if he plays right now? Am i missing something?
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Re: Your views on Brady Heslip

Postby auggiebc on Sun Jan 03, 2010 8:34 pm

eepstein0 {l Wrote}:
auggiebc {l Wrote}:
pick6pedro {l Wrote}:The view on whether to play him or not largely comes down to whether this is a lame duck season already. Those who think it is do not want to waste him. Those who think it is not know that he offers a lot that BC may be lacking.


If he can help this team win 8-9 ACC games, then it's worth playing him.


Here's where 8 or 9 ACC wins puts you.

NIT


9 ACC wins puts them in the dance. Because it means they will have had some very impressive wins considering their conference schedule.
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Re: Your views on Brady Heslip

Postby EaglesTalon on Sun Jan 03, 2010 8:39 pm

eepstein0 {l Wrote}:
auggiebc {l Wrote}:
pick6pedro {l Wrote}:The view on whether to play him or not largely comes down to whether this is a lame duck season already. Those who think it is do not want to waste him. Those who think it is not know that he offers a lot that BC may be lacking.


If he can help this team win 8-9 ACC games, then it's worth playing him.


Here's where 8 or 9 ACC wins puts you.

NIT


If BC wins 9 more ACC games, they're not going to the NIT. Don't be ridiculous.
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Re: Your views on Brady Heslip

Postby Eagledom on Sun Jan 03, 2010 9:10 pm

EaglesTalon {l Wrote}:
eepstein0 {l Wrote}:
auggiebc {l Wrote}:
pick6pedro {l Wrote}:The view on whether to play him or not largely comes down to whether this is a lame duck season already. Those who think it is do not want to waste him. Those who think it is not know that he offers a lot that BC may be lacking.


If he can help this team win 8-9 ACC games, then it's worth playing him.


Here's where 8 or 9 ACC wins puts you.

NIT


If BC wins 9 more ACC games, they're not going to the NIT. Don't be ridiculous.


10-6 with the losses BC has to this point would be the first time an ACC team goes 10-6 and is on the bubble. 9-7 and BC is left out. That said, teams that lose to Maine, Harvard, St Joes, URI, and UNI do not go 10-6 in the ACC.
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Re: Your views on Brady Heslip

Postby auggiebc on Sun Jan 03, 2010 9:14 pm

Eagledom,

If BC wins 9 ACC games, they will get into the tournament. There is no debate here.

Think about it before you argue this.

18 wins, 9-7 in ACC, with presumably at least a few wins vs top 15 teams. It's a no brainer.

Argue this and you lose all your credibility.
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Re: Your views on Brady Heslip

Postby Eagledom on Sun Jan 03, 2010 9:17 pm

auggiebc {l Wrote}:Eagledom,

If BC wins 9 ACC games, they will get into the tournament. There is no debate here.

Think about it before you argue this.

18 wins, 9-7 in ACC, with presumably at least a few wins vs top 15 teams. It's a no brainer.

Argue this and you lose all your credibility.


9-7 with only 18 total wins - BC gets left out because of the OOC performance.
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Re: Your views on Brady Heslip

Postby twballgame9 on Sun Jan 03, 2010 9:18 pm

auggiebc {l Wrote}:Eagledom,

If BC wins 9 ACC games, they will get into the tournament. There is no debate here.

Think about it before you argue this.

18 wins, 9-7 in ACC, with presumably at least a few wins vs top 15 teams. It's a no brainer.

Argue this and you lose all your credibility.


OJ had credibility?
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Re: Your views on Brady Heslip

Postby twballgame9 on Sun Jan 03, 2010 9:19 pm

Eagledom {l Wrote}:
auggiebc {l Wrote}:Eagledom,

If BC wins 9 ACC games, they will get into the tournament. There is no debate here.

Think about it before you argue this.

18 wins, 9-7 in ACC, with presumably at least a few wins vs top 15 teams. It's a no brainer.

Argue this and you lose all your credibility.


9-7 with only 18 total wins - BC gets left out because of the OOC performance.


Deja vu all over again. You said the same thing last year, OJ
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Re: Your views on Brady Heslip

Postby auggiebc on Sun Jan 03, 2010 9:21 pm

Eagledom {l Wrote}:
auggiebc {l Wrote}:Eagledom,

If BC wins 9 ACC games, they will get into the tournament. There is no debate here.

Think about it before you argue this.

18 wins, 9-7 in ACC, with presumably at least a few wins vs top 15 teams. It's a no brainer.

Argue this and you lose all your credibility.


9-7 with only 18 total wins - BC gets left out because of the OOC performance.


9 ACC wins means they beat several top 20 teams. It's enough. Trust me. I'm as disgusted with these OOC losses as anyone. But if they win 9 conference games, then by default it means they beat enough good teams to get in....given their conference schedule.
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Re: Your views on Brady Heslip

Postby Eagledom on Sun Jan 03, 2010 9:29 pm

twballgame9 {l Wrote}:
Eagledom {l Wrote}:
auggiebc {l Wrote}:Eagledom,

If BC wins 9 ACC games, they will get into the tournament. There is no debate here.

Think about it before you argue this.

18 wins, 9-7 in ACC, with presumably at least a few wins vs top 15 teams. It's a no brainer.

Argue this and you lose all your credibility.


9-7 with only 18 total wins - BC gets left out because of the OOC performance.


Deja vu all over again. You said the same thing last year, OJ


I never engaged in a bubble argument last year. We didn't have this many HORRIBLE losses last year. We had over 20 wins last year before the acc tourney.
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Re: Your views on Brady Heslip

Postby eepstein0 on Sun Jan 03, 2010 9:43 pm

Here's your 9 wins.

At Home:

Maryland
Miami
FSU
Virginia
VT

On the road:

Miami
VT
FSU or Wake
NCST

There, no chance in hell those 9 wins get you in the NCAA Tournament because you've beat a bunch of teams that simply aren't very good this year.

If you want to make the NCAA Tournament, you'd better beat these teams: Duke, UNC, Clemson, GT. We've got home-in-home with Duke and Clemson and UNC at home and GT on the road. Win 2 or 3 of these, including one of them being Duke or UNC, and this gets into the Tournament.

The problem is nothing I've seen minus a half against SC and a half against Michigan makes me believe this will happen. We're going to pull out a couple big wins, guaranteed in ACC play because Al always does this year after year. The question is can we put together enough wins to add up to the magic number. Starting @ Clemson and @ Duke is no easy start.
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Re: Your views on Brady Heslip

Postby BCEagles25 on Sun Jan 03, 2010 9:57 pm

auggiebc {l Wrote}:Eagledom,

If BC wins 9 ACC games, they will get into the tournament. There is no debate here.

Think about it before you argue this.

18 wins, 9-7 in ACC, with presumably at least a few wins vs top 15 teams. It's a no brainer.

Argue this and you lose all your credibility.


You guys aren't gonna like this, but I see how only 18 wins with losses as bad as we have will leave us out (which means I agree with OJ). I think we need at least 10 wins plus another in the tournament.

C'mon... A loss to Harvard? St. Joe's? MAINE for Christ's sake? The selection committee won't give a shit if Harvard "isn't that bad". They're gonna see the name Harvard and think "again?" Not to mention Rhode Island and UNI.

Hate to take the pessimistic side, but I think they need 10 wins in the ACC +1 in the tourney to get in. But this is do-able, because this team is talented and can play to the level of UNC and Duke because they are motivated.
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Re: Your views on Brady Heslip

Postby auggiebc on Sun Jan 03, 2010 10:05 pm

MIchigan win looking much better with them beating top 20 OSU tonite.
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Re: Your views on Brady Heslip

Postby RyanBC on Sun Jan 03, 2010 11:25 pm

Second Round Skinner {l Wrote}:
RyanBC {l Wrote}:
Second Round Skinner {l Wrote}:You guys want to sacrifice the 2nd half of his senior so that he can play in this piece of shit season? Playing him this year shouldn't even be an option.


has nothing to do with "half a season" ..


Won't he be ineligible the 2nd semester of his last season if he plays right now? Am i missing something?


and the first its by year not semester
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Re: Your views on Brady Heslip

Postby eepstein0 on Wed Jan 06, 2010 9:54 am

Last night confirms that Heslip will be red-shirting for the season barring some sort of disaster.
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Re: Your views on Brady Heslip

Postby auggiebc on Wed Jan 06, 2010 12:05 pm

eepstein0 {l Wrote}:Last night confirms that Heslip will be red-shirting for the season barring some sort of disaster.


yes, most likley. yet for some strange reason the coaching staff still has not come out definitively on this. last nite during the post game show assistant coach Mo Cassera was asked again about the prospects of Heslip playing this year, and his response wasn't "yes" or "no", rather "we're gonna wait and see".

strange that they won't just come out and say either way.
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Re: Your views on Brady Heslip

Postby bignick33 on Wed Jan 06, 2010 2:06 pm

auggiebc {l Wrote}:
eepstein0 {l Wrote}:Last night confirms that Heslip will be red-shirting for the season barring some sort of disaster.


yes, most likley. yet for some strange reason the coaching staff still has not come out definitively on this. last nite during the post game show assistant coach Mo Cassera was asked again about the prospects of Heslip playing this year, and his response wasn't "yes" or "no", rather "we're gonna wait and see".

strange that they won't just come out and say either way.


I can't imagine that they'd actually want to watch him practice a few times before making a decision.
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Re: Your views on Brady Heslip

Postby bignick33 on Wed Jan 06, 2010 2:35 pm

TobaccoRoadEagle {l Wrote}:has anyone ever definitively answered the question of whether he CAN play or not?


Well he's short, scrawny, Canadian, and OJ-colored. But the recruiting sites and Coach Handsome like him as a point guard. Does this help?
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