by Hunta518 on Sun Dec 13, 2009 8:54 pm
EagleNYC {l Wrote}:Eagledom {l Wrote}:Hunta518 {l Wrote}:I can't wait to see BC's name on selection sunday... in the signature win column at least 2 times if not 3
it wil be ashame that that graphic will be accompanied by the 4-6 "bad losses" that left this team out of the tounament.
I'm pretty sure he meant signature wins for URI, UNI, etc.
by ryrob on Sun Dec 13, 2009 8:57 pm
by twballgame9 on Sun Dec 13, 2009 9:01 pm
EagleNYC {l Wrote}:twballgame9 {l Wrote}:EagleNYC {l Wrote}:twballgame9 {l Wrote}:EagleNYC {l Wrote}:twballgame9 {l Wrote}:EagleNYC {l Wrote}:twballgame9 {l Wrote}:EagleNYC {l Wrote}:twballgame9 {l Wrote}:I miss the guys that told me how good Trapani is. Bring those guys back. There is your sixth man.
Assume Trapani's season stays this poor. Other than him, who gets the blame. I ask because the football coaches were (rightfully) blamed when our OL regressed this year.
Difference is it is the same staff. Any regression is his. He is just missing shots he used to make.
Ok, just checking. To recap:
Unexpected success = coaching 'em up.
Failure to improve/regression = player's fault.
I think this comment makes the ridiculous "TW = Al Merryman" a lot more legit.
This is a horrible, horrible showing.
You compared to the OLine. The OLine changed staffs and schemes. Trapani did not. He just started missing.
If the OLine regressed in the same coaching staff, that wouldn't have been on the coaches. Feel free to use more retarded analogies.
OK, I'll do my best in the future. Looks like you are just about alone defending Skinner for this team's performance this year.
I realize you have enough goodwill from football that many won't go at it with you, but it's painfully obvious that this team isn't just doing poorly, they are a disaster. Consecutive home losses to Harvard and URI? Holy shit! I'm not calling for a knee jerk firing: I'm calling Skinner out for a horrible performance this season.
I like that you retards translate "he doesn't deserve to be fired" into "defending Al"
Makes me laugh. "The sky is not blue, must be red then. Nope, there are no other colors. Fuck it, I am one of 3 BC hoop fans."
You love the term retard, don't you? While you're laughing, put in your Haden jersey and kick the stool out from underneath yourself.
Explain how "not thinking someone should be fired" equates to "defending everything a coach does."
Didn't think so.
And get back to me in two years when we find out where Josh Haden is playing. But for a bunch of guys that want Al fired, I assume you are pissed at the mediocrity that was BC football this season right? Fire Spaz?
I don't expect you to remember what I post, but I was indeed upset with 8-4, but more for how those 4 games were lost. I predicted 9-3 going into the season (the only game I had wrong was ND), so being 1 game off I wasn't furious. That said, I see no basis for confidence that BC can win an ACC title with Spaz at the helm. I don't expect him to be fired but I'll be pissed if he's still coaching 2 years from now.
by BCEagles25 on Sun Dec 13, 2009 9:02 pm
ryrob {l Wrote}:3-17 from 3 tonight (17.6%) And a lot of those 3s were absolutely uncontested.
How is this not a problem TDW? We have no jump shooters whatsoever outside of Roche, and he only shoots when he has to.
by BCEagle74 on Sun Dec 13, 2009 9:02 pm
dixieagle {l Wrote}:I just happened to turn on the TV and saw the last few seconds of the game. Did we really lose by 11 to URI??? What is happening? This is completely ridiculous.
by Eagledom on Sun Dec 13, 2009 9:03 pm
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:EagleNYC {l Wrote}:twballgame9 {l Wrote}:EagleNYC {l Wrote}:twballgame9 {l Wrote}:EagleNYC {l Wrote}:twballgame9 {l Wrote}:EagleNYC {l Wrote}:twballgame9 {l Wrote}:EagleNYC {l Wrote}:twballgame9 {l Wrote}:I miss the guys that told me how good Trapani is. Bring those guys back. There is your sixth man.
Assume Trapani's season stays this poor. Other than him, who gets the blame. I ask because the football coaches were (rightfully) blamed when our OL regressed this year.
Difference is it is the same staff. Any regression is his. He is just missing shots he used to make.
Ok, just checking. To recap:
Unexpected success = coaching 'em up.
Failure to improve/regression = player's fault.
I think this comment makes the ridiculous "TW = Al Merryman" a lot more legit.
This is a horrible, horrible showing.
You compared to the OLine. The OLine changed staffs and schemes. Trapani did not. He just started missing.
If the OLine regressed in the same coaching staff, that wouldn't have been on the coaches. Feel free to use more retarded analogies.
OK, I'll do my best in the future. Looks like you are just about alone defending Skinner for this team's performance this year.
I realize you have enough goodwill from football that many won't go at it with you, but it's painfully obvious that this team isn't just doing poorly, they are a disaster. Consecutive home losses to Harvard and URI? Holy shit! I'm not calling for a knee jerk firing: I'm calling Skinner out for a horrible performance this season.
I like that you retards translate "he doesn't deserve to be fired" into "defending Al"
Makes me laugh. "The sky is not blue, must be red then. Nope, there are no other colors. Fuck it, I am one of 3 BC hoop fans."
You love the term retard, don't you? While you're laughing, put in your Haden jersey and kick the stool out from underneath yourself.
Explain how "not thinking someone should be fired" equates to "defending everything a coach does."
Didn't think so.
And get back to me in two years when we find out where Josh Haden is playing. But for a bunch of guys that want Al fired, I assume you are pissed at the mediocrity that was BC football this season right? Fire Spaz?
I don't expect you to remember what I post, but I was indeed upset with 8-4, but more for how those 4 games were lost. I predicted 9-3 going into the season (the only game I had wrong was ND), so being 1 game off I wasn't furious. That said, I see no basis for confidence that BC can win an ACC title with Spaz at the helm. I don't expect him to be fired but I'll be pissed if he's still coaching 2 years from now.
Well we agree on football exactly then.
by ryrob on Sun Dec 13, 2009 9:07 pm
BCEagles25 {l Wrote}:ryrob {l Wrote}:3-17 from 3 tonight (17.6%) And a lot of those 3s were absolutely uncontested.
How is this not a problem TDW? We have no jump shooters whatsoever outside of Roche, and he only shoots when he has to.
It was almost worse than that versus Miami.
by twballgame9 on Sun Dec 13, 2009 9:08 pm
by Eagledom on Sun Dec 13, 2009 9:10 pm
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:I disagree that Al has been mediocre. So, no, we don't disagree. If he were mediocre, we'd agree.
by claver2010 on Sun Dec 13, 2009 9:13 pm
by twballgame9 on Sun Dec 13, 2009 9:13 pm
Eagledom {l Wrote}:twballgame9 {l Wrote}:I disagree that Al has been mediocre. So, no, we don't disagree. If he were mediocre, we'd agree.
how many sweet 16s in 14 years is medicore? Is it 0?
by eepstein0 on Sun Dec 13, 2009 9:31 pm
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:Eagledom {l Wrote}:twballgame9 {l Wrote}:I disagree that Al has been mediocre. So, no, we don't disagree. If he were mediocre, we'd agree.
how many sweet 16s in 14 years is medicore? Is it 0?
How many Elite Eights? How many Thrusting 32s? I love the arbitrariness of your cut off. I bet you are the guy buying whatever it is that Christina Aguilera is selling.
So making it one more game is the cut off because CBS came up with a cute name.
7 of 9 tourneys. Not mediocre.
by EagleNYC on Sun Dec 13, 2009 10:10 pm
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:I disagree that Al has been mediocre. So, no, we don't disagree. If he were mediocre, we'd agree.
by Logitano on Sun Dec 13, 2009 11:52 pm
EagleNYC {l Wrote}:twballgame9 {l Wrote}:I disagree that Al has been mediocre. So, no, we don't disagree. If he were mediocre, we'd agree.
We agree on this point. Al Skinner's entire body of work with BC is far from mediocre. He's had success in the regular season, occasionally having tremendous success. He's won regular season conference titles (yes, plural) and the BE tourney. His teams consistently make the field of 64. He's either an excellent talent evaluator or brilliant at coaching up talent (depends on who you ask).
That being said, while you deride how arbitrary the NCAA tourney is organized, Al's sample size is large enough that criticism is warranted. As Logi rightfully pointed out earlier this week, he doesn't have a signature win in the tourney (I'd actually pick the epic comeback over Pacific), but does have at least one bad loss (UWM) and several winnable games that could have really satiated this crew (Nova, G-Town and GTech).
by twballgame9 on Mon Dec 14, 2009 1:09 am
Logitano {l Wrote}:EagleNYC {l Wrote}:twballgame9 {l Wrote}:I disagree that Al has been mediocre. So, no, we don't disagree. If he were mediocre, we'd agree.
We agree on this point. Al Skinner's entire body of work with BC is far from mediocre. He's had success in the regular season, occasionally having tremendous success. He's won regular season conference titles (yes, plural) and the BE tourney. His teams consistently make the field of 64. He's either an excellent talent evaluator or brilliant at coaching up talent (depends on who you ask).
That being said, while you deride how arbitrary the NCAA tourney is organized, Al's sample size is large enough that criticism is warranted. As Logi rightfully pointed out earlier this week, he doesn't have a signature win in the tourney (I'd actually pick the epic comeback over Pacific), but does have at least one bad loss (UWM) and several winnable games that could have really satiated this crew (Nova, G-Town and GTech).
In all of those close NCAA losses his teams panicked and made huge mistakes costing us those games. Harley going for the layup down 3, captain oates giving the ball to the georgetown player (who i believe was very polite when he asked him for it), the players keep changing the but the end result is the same, they go full retard.
by Logitano on Mon Dec 14, 2009 9:29 am
by eepstein0 on Mon Dec 14, 2009 11:11 am
Logitano {l Wrote}:The Harley team was terrible and overachieved to epic proportions. The Smith team lost to the #3 team in the country. And the Dudley team lost to 2 seed and final four participant G'Town without *** *******. Another Al team lost to a GT team that was the national runner up.
The only horrible loss was Wisconsin Milwaukee. But then, the Sweet 16 should be an expectation given the kind of talent that Al has. Or wait, is it that he can't recruit top players, I forget? But then, isn't he coaching good to get the bad players there? But no, the players actually turned out to be good despite the coaching. So the recruiting must be really good.
I am so confused.
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