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Remember that NCSU replaced Herb Sendek with...

Postby twballgame9 on Fri Dec 11, 2009 1:12 am

Sidney Lowe.

How is that shit working out?

Discuss.

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Re: Remember that NCSU replaced Herb Sendek with...

Postby RyanBC on Fri Dec 11, 2009 1:20 am

if they fire Al I will crush the athletic department, single handedly.
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Re: Remember that NCSU replaced Herb Sendek with...

Postby BCMcG on Fri Dec 11, 2009 12:40 pm

It worked out perfectly. He wears a bright red jacket so he's visible on the sidelines and he brings in top recruits like Hickson. Isn't that what you want in a coach?
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Re: Remember that NCSU replaced Herb Sendek with...

Postby Eagledom on Fri Dec 11, 2009 12:54 pm

twballgame9 {l Wrote}:Sidney Lowe.

How is that shit working out?

Discuss.

FIRE AL!!!!!1111!!!!!!ONE!!!!



Oh there it is again. Your wonderful argument of "we might do worse" so we better stick to the status quo, no matter that the status quo is average.
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Re: Remember that NCSU replaced Herb Sendek with...

Postby twballgame9 on Fri Dec 11, 2009 2:43 pm

Eagledom {l Wrote}:
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:Sidney Lowe.

How is that shit working out?

Discuss.

FIRE AL!!!!!1111!!!!!!ONE!!!!



Oh there it is again. Your wonderful argument of "we might do worse" so we better stick to the status quo, no matter that the status quo is average.


You are an idiot if you think the status quo is "average". It may not be the Elite 8 or Sweet 16 that we think this program is capable of, but it is hardly "average."
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Re: Remember that NCSU replaced Herb Sendek with...

Postby Eagledom on Fri Dec 11, 2009 3:00 pm

twballgame9 {l Wrote}:
Eagledom {l Wrote}:
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:Sidney Lowe.

How is that shit working out?

Discuss.

FIRE AL!!!!!1111!!!!!!ONE!!!!



Oh there it is again. Your wonderful argument of "we might do worse" so we better stick to the status quo, no matter that the status quo is average.


You are an idiot if you think the status quo is "average". It may not be the Elite 8 or Sweet 16 that we think this program is capable of, but it is hardly "average."


1 sweet 16 in 13 years, no final 8s, no final 4s. 2 appearances in conference finals. That sounds pretty fuckin average.
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Re: Remember that NCSU replaced Herb Sendek with...

Postby Eagledom on Fri Dec 11, 2009 3:00 pm

Eagledom {l Wrote}:
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:
Eagledom {l Wrote}:
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:Sidney Lowe.

How is that shit working out?

Discuss.

FIRE AL!!!!!1111!!!!!!ONE!!!!



Oh there it is again. Your wonderful argument of "we might do worse" so we better stick to the status quo, no matter that the status quo is average.


You are an idiot if you think the status quo is "average". It may not be the Elite 8 or Sweet 16 that we think this program is capable of, but it is hardly "average."


1 sweet 16 in 13 years, no final 8s, no final 4s. 2 or 3 appearances in conference finals. That sounds pretty fuckin average.
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Re: Remember that NCSU replaced Herb Sendek with...

Postby twballgame9 on Fri Dec 11, 2009 3:03 pm

Eagledom {l Wrote}:
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:
Eagledom {l Wrote}:
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:Sidney Lowe.

How is that shit working out?

Discuss.

FIRE AL!!!!!1111!!!!!!ONE!!!!



Oh there it is again. Your wonderful argument of "we might do worse" so we better stick to the status quo, no matter that the status quo is average.


You are an idiot if you think the status quo is "average". It may not be the Elite 8 or Sweet 16 that we think this program is capable of, but it is hardly "average."


1 sweet 16 in 13 years, no final 8s, no final 4s. 2 appearances in conference finals. That sounds pretty fuckin average.


Average for who, Duke? Because that's about what they have been doing lately. UNC and Kansas? Sure, those seasons would be average for them, like when they lost to George Mason. I'd say Kentucky, but over the past 10 years they haven't done as well as BC.

I can count on two hands the number of teams that have gone to the tourney as consistently as Al over the past 10 years. That ain't average.

Of the 330 teams in college basketball, about 305 would love to have Al Skinner's record.
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Re: Remember that NCSU replaced Herb Sendek with...

Postby Eagledom on Fri Dec 11, 2009 3:12 pm

twballgame9 {l Wrote}:
Eagledom {l Wrote}:
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:
Eagledom {l Wrote}:
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:Sidney Lowe.

How is that shit working out?

Discuss.

FIRE AL!!!!!1111!!!!!!ONE!!!!



Oh there it is again. Your wonderful argument of "we might do worse" so we better stick to the status quo, no matter that the status quo is average.


You are an idiot if you think the status quo is "average". It may not be the Elite 8 or Sweet 16 that we think this program is capable of, but it is hardly "average."


1 sweet 16 in 13 years, no final 8s, no final 4s. 2 appearances in conference finals. That sounds pretty fuckin average.


Average for who, Duke? Because that's about what they have been doing lately. UNC and Kansas? Sure, those seasons would be average for them, like when they lost to George Mason. I'd say Kentucky, but over the past 10 years they haven't done as well as BC.

I can count on two hands the number of teams that have gone to the tourney as consistently as Al over the past 10 years. That ain't average.

Of the 330 teams in college basketball, about 305 would love to have Al Skinner's record.


If someone told me, you can have this coach for the next 15 years....and told me that his performance would be EXACTLY what Al's has been over the time that he has been here, I'd say "no thanks", I'd like to get past the first weekend of the tournament more than one fucking time. And its not like the conference tournament resumes are that outstanding. You just have low standards. What a fucking joke.
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Re: Remember that NCSU replaced Herb Sendek with...

Postby twballgame9 on Fri Dec 11, 2009 5:24 pm

You are absurd. Ask a fan of 320 of the 330 division I schools if they could have a coach that went to 7 of the last 9 tournaments, the Sweet 16 once, the Round of 32 4 times, and won 2 regular season and 1 conference tourney championship all while playing in the two toughest conferences in America, and they would say YES in a heartbeat.
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Re: Remember that NCSU replaced Herb Sendek with...

Postby Eagledom on Fri Dec 11, 2009 6:54 pm

twballgame9 {l Wrote}:You are absurd. Ask a fan of 320 of the 330 division I schools if they could have a coach that went to 7 of the last 9 tournaments, the Sweet 16 once, the Round of 32 4 times, and won 2 regular season and 1 conference tourney championship all while playing in the two toughest conferences in America, and they would say YES in a heartbeat.


totally disagree.
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Re: Remember that NCSU replaced Herb Sendek with...

Postby jrlbc06 on Sat Dec 12, 2009 12:53 am

Eagledom {l Wrote}:
1 sweet 16 in 13 years, no final 8s, no final 4s. 2 appearances in conference finals. That sounds pretty fuckin average.


No. With 300+ Division I basketball schools, average would likely be no tournament appearances. By just making the tournament consistently Al has exceeded average. Not that I'm happy or satisfied with his post season performance, but you can't call him average.
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Re: Remember that NCSU replaced Herb Sendek with...

Postby twballgame9 on Sat Dec 12, 2009 1:57 am

Eagledom {l Wrote}:
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:You are absurd. Ask a fan of 320 of the 330 division I schools if they could have a coach that went to 7 of the last 9 tournaments, the Sweet 16 once, the Round of 32 4 times, and won 2 regular season and 1 conference tourney championship all while playing in the two toughest conferences in America, and they would say YES in a heartbeat.


totally disagree.



Let's pick average. St. Johns', you are on the clock. Would you like Al Skinner as a coach?

Seton Hall, you are on the clock.

UVA, you are on the clock.

Those are average schools. Not BC.
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Re: Remember that NCSU replaced Herb Sendek with...

Postby twballgame9 on Sat Dec 12, 2009 1:58 am

Eagledom {l Wrote}:
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:You are absurd. Ask a fan of 320 of the 330 division I schools if they could have a coach that went to 7 of the last 9 tournaments, the Sweet 16 once, the Round of 32 4 times, and won 2 regular season and 1 conference tourney championship all while playing in the two toughest conferences in America, and they would say YES in a heartbeat.


totally disagree.


Not at all surprised. That's why I said it, puppet boy.
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Re: Remember that NCSU replaced Herb Sendek with...

Postby EaglesTalon on Sat Dec 12, 2009 10:40 am

If Al Skinner were fired today, would he be offered a job at a school in a "major" conference?
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Re: Remember that NCSU replaced Herb Sendek with...

Postby Eagledom on Sat Dec 12, 2009 10:42 am

EaglesTalon {l Wrote}:If Al Skinner were fired today, would he be offered a job at a school in a "major" conference?


probably. so was :toby
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Re: Remember that NCSU replaced Herb Sendek with...

Postby EaglesTalon on Sat Dec 12, 2009 10:44 am

:toby was fired?

news to me.
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Re: Remember that NCSU replaced Herb Sendek with...

Postby Eagledom on Sat Dec 12, 2009 10:48 am

EaglesTalon {l Wrote}::toby was fired?

news to me.


no, he was pushed out, but I see you have resorted to semantics. But by your logic, he was hired by a school in a major conference, which must mean he is an above average coach.
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Re: Remember that NCSU replaced Herb Sendek with...

Postby commavegarage on Sat Dec 12, 2009 10:49 am

Eagledom {l Wrote}:
EaglesTalon {l Wrote}::toby was fired?

news to me.


no, he was pushed out, but I see you have resorted to semantics. But by your logic, he was hired by a school in a major conference, which must mean he is an above average coach.


Again, are you fucking kidding me? Toby couldn't wait to get out of here.
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Re: Remember that NCSU replaced Herb Sendek with...

Postby EaglesTalon on Sat Dec 12, 2009 10:56 am

in the years before TOB willingly left for NC State, how many other schools in BCS conference laughed at the idea of hiring him? Michigan State, UVA, UNC, GT, Washington, Navy, ...
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Re: Remember that NCSU replaced Herb Sendek with...

Postby Eagledom on Sat Dec 12, 2009 11:07 am

EaglesTalon {l Wrote}:in the years before TOB willingly left for NC State, how many other schools in BCS conference laughed at the idea of hiring him? Michigan State, UVA, UNC, GT, Washington, Navy, ...


was he "offered a job at a school in a "major" conference"? It was your logic, not mine.
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Re: Remember that NCSU replaced Herb Sendek with...

Postby commavegarage on Sat Dec 12, 2009 11:08 am

Eagledom {l Wrote}:
EaglesTalon {l Wrote}:in the years before TOB willingly left for NC State, how many other schools in BCS conference laughed at the idea of hiring him? Michigan State, UVA, UNC, GT, Washington, Navy, ...


was he "offered a job at a school in a "major" conference"? It was your logic, not mine.


On the condition that he was fired, idiot.
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Re: Remember that NCSU replaced Herb Sendek with...

Postby Eagledom on Sat Dec 12, 2009 11:11 am

commavegarage {l Wrote}:
Eagledom {l Wrote}:
EaglesTalon {l Wrote}:in the years before TOB willingly left for NC State, how many other schools in BCS conference laughed at the idea of hiring him? Michigan State, UVA, UNC, GT, Washington, Navy, ...


was he "offered a job at a school in a "major" conference"? It was your logic, not mine.


On the condition that he was fired, idiot.


that has absolutely nothing to do with it. Talon's logic was that if he were hired by a major conference school, that must mean that he is an above average coach.
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Re: Remember that NCSU replaced Herb Sendek with...

Postby EaglesTalon on Sat Dec 12, 2009 11:23 am

So, do you think that if Al Skinner actively sought out jobs right now, the exact same pool of jobs would be available to him if he didn't leave on his own, but was fired?

You don't think that the stigma of being fired has any impact whatsoever on the number of jobs immediately available for someone?
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Re: Remember that NCSU replaced Herb Sendek with...

Postby Eagledom on Sat Dec 12, 2009 11:30 am

EaglesTalon {l Wrote}:So, do you think that if Al Skinner actively sought out jobs right now, the exact same pool of jobs would be available to him if he didn't leave on his own, but was fired?

You don't think that the stigma of being fired has any impact whatsoever on the number of jobs immediately available for someone?


there might be a few schools that would pass...but TOBY would've been hired by a major conference school if he were fired.
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