2021 Coaching Candidate Thread (this time for reals)

[Dick Rosenthal]

In any case, if BC is going to go cheap, they might as well go hire Coen. He’d be an upgrade over Christian—he was a successful assistant at BC—and would likely take the job (I have good reason to think Schmidt has no interest if that is the direction, so he is no longer a fallback option). We will be marginally better in our irrelevancy, which might be less painful than a full Battle of Zama situation. I wouldn’t really care, but IB’s pain would amuse me.

I know you are just having fun Dick. You don't really mean this but if it happened, I would lose my shit. Actually I would lose my shit if any school picks him up. I suppose the least painful it would be for me is if the school that grabbed him is your school.

Did you or Duchie know or even have any classes with Amy Poehler?

I have no idea. From a looks perspective she would not have registered on my radar and she probably isn't hefty enough to attract Duchie. She was at SNL after all my friends there had long since left. I am told I met her in 1996 or 97, but I have no memory of it.

[innocentbystander]

you forget that the guy that knows everything and predicts everything correctly all of the time says it is gates.

that's enough to make me nervous that it will actually be gates.

if it is gates, i will post nothing to the basketball board but long, thick, glistening, vein filled cocks because that's what this program deserves. in fact, that is too good for this program but it will bother the rest of you more than anything else and THAT is what this program deserves

we get it. you don't want gates.

so who do you want?

[2001Eagle]

There is zero reason not to hire Eisley over the rest of these names. And a few years running a program at what is essentially a different level should not move the needle. What Eisley can tell recruits about what BC was and what the path to the NBA is, is far more valuable.

Yup. If Gates is the hire it’s because BC is small time and cheap. There’s still a chance that BC gets lucky and he succeeds but it’s still not the right move if you’re really committed to giving this program the resources to succeed.

Woah... hold on... I love the guy, but... How is Eisley NOT small time and cheap? He is the third paid assistant on Michigan's staff. BC offering $600k doubles his salary. Eisley is easily the cheapest option of all candidates. Gates gets paid more and would cost a buy-out.

Gates could be great or be terrible. He is a lottery ticket and literally NO ONE on here knows anything about him. Zero. People on here really don't know anything about Eisley either. They probably haven't even listened to his interviews on YouTube. In my mind, the only difference between Eisley and Gates is that Eisley knows BC and would stay if the lottery ticket hit.

An Eisley hire might be cheap, that would depend on what they ultimately pay him of course, but I would characterize it as small time. He’s a guy with a 12 year NBA career, 7-8 years coaching in the NBA and a few years recruiting and coaching at a big time college program. Completely different profile than Gates.

[twballgame9]

There is zero reason not to hire Eisley over the rest of these names. And a few years running a program at what is essentially a different level should not move the needle. What Eisley can tell recruits about what BC was and what the path to the NBA is, is far more valuable.

Yup. If Gates is the hire it’s because BC is small time and cheap. There’s still a chance that BC gets lucky and he succeeds but it’s still not the right move if you’re really committed to giving this program the resources to succeed.

Woah... hold on... I love the guy, but... How is Eisley NOT small time and cheap? He is the third paid assistant on Michigan's staff. BC offering $600k doubles his salary. Eisley is easily the cheapest option of all candidates. Gates gets paid more and would cost a buy-out.

Gates could be great or be terrible. He is a lottery ticket and literally NO ONE on here knows anything about him. Zero. People on here really don't know anything about Eisley either. They probably haven't even listened to his interviews on YouTube. In my mind, the only difference between Eisley and Gates is that Eisley knows BC and would stay if the lottery ticket hit.

An Eisley hire might be cheap, that would depend on what they ultimately pay him of course, but I would characterize it as small time. He’s a guy with a 12 year NBA career, 7-8 years coaching in the NBA and a few years recruiting and coaching at a big time college program. Completely different profile than Gates.

This. I am not saying Eisley is a sure thing, but he's the most interesting candidate discussed here by far.

[HJS]

There is zero reason not to hire Eisley over the rest of these names. And a few years running a program at what is essentially a different level should not move the needle. What Eisley can tell recruits about what BC was and what the path to the NBA is, is far more valuable.

Yup. If Gates is the hire it’s because BC is small time and cheap. There’s still a chance that BC gets lucky and he succeeds but it’s still not the right move if you’re really committed to giving this program the resources to succeed.

Woah... hold on... I love the guy, but... How is Eisley NOT small time and cheap? He is the third paid assistant on Michigan's staff. BC offering $600k doubles his salary. Eisley is easily the cheapest option of all candidates. Gates gets paid more and would cost a buy-out.

Gates could be great or be terrible. He is a lottery ticket and literally NO ONE on here knows anything about him. Zero. People on here really don't know anything about Eisley either. They probably haven't even listened to his interviews on YouTube. In my mind, the only difference between Eisley and Gates is that Eisley knows BC and would stay if the lottery ticket hit.

An Eisley hire might be cheap, that would depend on what they ultimately pay him of course, but I would characterize it as small time. He’s a guy with a 12 year NBA career, 7-8 years coaching in the NBA and a few years recruiting and coaching at a big time college program. Completely different profile than Gates.

This is a stupid conversation. It is beyond debate that Eisley would be both cheap and small time. If you are paying Eisley $3mm a year when he would jump for $600k, it doesn't make him a more expensive choice... it makes BC even stupider than it already is. As for small time... list all the schools that are looking at Eisley as a head coaching candidate. Look, I have no problem hiring him. But, there is no chance his name is mentioned if he wasn't here during the Curley years.

As for his 12 year NBA career... there isn't a single player he is recruiting who knows about that. If NBA playing career was a thing, Georgetown and Vandy and Wake and Pacific and Portland would have been crushing it with Patrick Ewing, Jerry Stackhouse, Danny Manning, Damon Staoudamire and Terry Porter as their respective head coaches.

All you are doing is talking yourself into believing that Eisley's resume is more than it really is. Howard Eisley as the head coach of a Power 5 conference is as small time and as cheap as you can get. That said, I am willing to give it a shot because (a) the guy really wants to be here, (b) he is a good guy and (c) he wouldn't immediately jump when we finish 10th in the ACC. No students will care about landing John Stockton's backup, but there maybe some whalepants in Watertown who would buy season tix when Howard brings back Obie in a Phil Martelli-like role. Maybe Spiller and Biancardi can round out the staff. Personally, if I was going to go with an alum, I'd give Duds the gig because he would be entertaining as all hell to watch (even if the program was a mess while he got his legs) (actually think this would be an option if Jarmond stayed). But, Eisley is a good second. That said neither would ever be considered by Cleveland State to replace Gates.

[twballgame9]

If NBA playing career was a thing, Georgetown and Vandy and Wake and Pacific and Portland would have been crushing it with Patrick Ewing, Jerry Stackhouse, Danny Manning, Damon Staoudamire and Terry Porter as their respective head coaches.

Just playing in the NBA is not the point, no one thinks Dennis Rodman should get the Indiana job. But when you also coached in the league for a long time, served as an assistant at a major program (led by a young African American ex-NBA alum with 6 years of NBA assistant coaching experience that had the squad at #2 in the country prior to yesterday), the NBA experience is another arrow in the recruiting quiver.

Eisley is not a small time hire. You might be able to get him for relatively cheap though, now. If UM continues the way they have this season, Eisley is going to blow up sooner or later.

[eagle33]

I can't see anyone decent taking this job unless there's a guarantee of a practice facility getting built written into the contract.

[HJS]

I can't see anyone decent taking this job unless there's a guarantee of a practice facility getting built written into the contract.

I don't think they'll have a problem including a guarantee that additional BB-only space will be built. That said, I still think it is a stretch they hire someone who wouldn't take the job without such guarantee.

[innocentbystander]

BC needs to decide what kind of school it wants to be in the ACC. What are the goals for the basketball program?

• #1 Win a national championship?
• #2 Compete for a national championship?
• #3 Win the conference tournament?
• #4 Just get into March Madness (if possible, every year) or
• #5 just graduate the players and keep them out of trouble?

Those are five different things and as I've read this board, I'm not convinced all you Eagles are on the same page here. And if you are not on the same page, perhaps the BOT and Leahy aren't either?

Look at Northeastern its real simple, we want #4. That is all we ask, get into March Madness. And that is asking a lot. Now in order for Coen to accomplish that he MUST complete #3. There is no other way. So #3 and #4 go hand-in-hand in our little, stupid, conference. But BC has many more options that are not available to Coen.

If all Leahy and the BOT wanted was #5, that could be accomplished with Christian. They should have just kept him. Obviously, #5 is not good enough so they allowed Kraft to pull the trigger. The school wants MORE than #5.

But how much more? Perhaps the BOT, Leahy, and Kraft could be happy with just #3? I think that is all they are asking of Hafley (someday.) I don't think they could ever ask any more of Hafley beyond #3. And if that is all they want for the basketball program, that is a certain kind of hire, a much easier (and cheaper) person to find than anyone that would be asked to accomplish #2 or #1.

If they want #2, that is probably not going to happen with Gates, probably not going to happen with ANY of the names I have seen mentioned by any of you actually. The BOT, Leahy, and Kraft would have to hire someone who breaks the rules (or at the very least, bends them almost to the point of breaking.) And if that is a non-starter, then I think #1 and #2 will always be out of reach for this program. As tre said, this is a flawed game, an unfair game. He's right. You want #2 or #1, see Nick Nolte in Blue Chips. But given its flaws and given BC's circumstances, only a cheater will get to #2 or #1.

What is it that you guys want? You want #1, #2, or would you be happy with #3 or even #4? I'll be honest, for me, for BC, I want #1.

[twballgame9]

Like the football team, the goal should be a hybrid of 3 & 4 for now. Establish that and maybe you make a run in the tourney every 3rd or 4th recruiting cycle at 2, and lightning may strike for 1.

[HJS]

Leahy and the BOT want #5 with a twist. They want the MBB team to also make money. Every decision they have made (which is insane to fans) fits the adjusted motivation.

Christian was fired because (a) he lost the team (kids were filling their responsibilities off the court), (b) his contract entered the cheap buyout phase, (c) game day revs were so low they were unaffected by the pandemic and (d) he didn’t want the team to play (which slices into ACC revs and our percentage thereof).

The question you really need to ask... what is BC’s motivation to spend resources to build a competitive basketball program? In the socialist world of conference athletics, where is the benefit that BC gleans by paying Willard or Beilein $4mm per year to coach 10 players?

[innocentbystander]

Leahy and the BOT want #5 with a twist. They want the MBB team to also make money. Every decision they have made (which is insane to fans) fits the adjusted motivation.

Christian was fired because (a) he lost the team (kids were filling their responsibilities off the court), (b) his contract entered the cheap buyout phase, (c) game day revs were so low they were unaffected by the pandemic and (d) he didn’t want the team to play (which slices into ACC revs and our percentage thereof).

The question you really need to ask... what is BC’s motivation to spend resources to build a competitive basketball program? In the socialist world of conference athletics, where is the benefit that BC gleans by paying Willard or Beilein $4mm per year to coach 10 players?

HJS, I agree, that is probably all that they (they = BOT and Leahy) want. And since they have the authority and power, they will be making the decision. But what do YOU want? I still want #1. I don't give a fuck how they do it. But I don't get what I want.

[ATLeagle]

Leahy and the BOT want #5 with a twist. They want the MBB team to also make money. Every decision they have made (which is insane to fans) fits the adjusted motivation.

Christian was fired because (a) he lost the team (kids were filling their responsibilities off the court), (b) his contract entered the cheap buyout phase, (c) game day revs were so low they were unaffected by the pandemic and (d) he didn’t want the team to play (which slices into ACC revs and our percentage thereof).

The question you really need to ask... what is BC’s motivation to spend resources to build a competitive basketball program? In the socialist world of conference athletics, where is the benefit that BC gleans by paying Willard or Beilein $4mm per year to coach 10 players?

There are tangible benefits to a good basketball program. Look at the application numbers at Nova and Gonzaga. The only people who don't still believe in the Flutie effect work in Chestnut Hill.

[HJS]

Leahy and the BOT want #5 with a twist. They want the MBB team to also make money. Every decision they have made (which is insane to fans) fits the adjusted motivation.

Christian was fired because (a) he lost the team (kids were filling their responsibilities off the court), (b) his contract entered the cheap buyout phase, (c) game day revs were so low they were unaffected by the pandemic and (d) he didn’t want the team to play (which slices into ACC revs and our percentage thereof).

The question you really need to ask... what is BC’s motivation to spend resources to build a competitive basketball program? In the socialist world of conference athletics, where is the benefit that BC gleans by paying Willard or Beilein $4mm per year to coach 10 players?

There are tangible benefits to a good basketball program. Look at the application numbers at Nova and Gonzaga. The only people who don't still believe in the Flutie effect work in Chestnut Hill.

I don't believe there is a Flutie Effect once you move into the Top echelon of 50 or so schools. Was BC's admissions struggling for the last 12 years with an irrelevant BB team and boring FB team? Has Georgetown being terrible in hoops hurt them academically? Is Wake and Vandy struggling? I think the Flutie Effect is real for crappy commuter schools who benefit from run-of-the-mill students being made aware and becoming interested. BC has grown far beyond that and far beyond athletic's influence for the admissions. Nerds hate sports and schools like ND probably are more annoyed than anything by the uptick in Southie applications whenever they are good.

Where sports matters to BC is in donations. Not just to the Athletic Department, but to the school in general. A college being able to stay top-of-mind for alums is always a challenge. Sports is a nice and easy avenue to engender pride and goodwill.

[TobaccoRoadEagle]

shit athletics are also a factor to parents thinking of sending their kids to the heights. i, for one, aimed my kids in other directions because the athletics suck on top of the growth in price tag out pacing the progression in academics. i am nowhere near as rah-rah about bc as an institution as i was 10 or 15 years ago and that all holds true because of sucky athletics. seeing the 3 other schools that my kids have matriculated to (well, 2 of the 3 - 1 is still a small school that falls all over itself in simple day-to-day student life management), i feel very solid in my decision and my kids are much happier on their respective campus than they would have been punching nerds on the heights

all these discussions of revitalizing the basketball program, much like the discussions about the football program, could be applied to the school administration as well. the place has gotten stale and i have to believe i'm not the only parent/alumnus that see it

[innocentbystander]

shit athletics are also a factor to parents thinking of sending their kids to the heights. i, for one, aimed my kids in other directions because the athletics suck on top of the growth in price tag out pacing the progression in academics. i am nowhere near as rah-rah about bc as an institution as i was 10 or 15 years ago and that all holds true because of sucky athletics. seeing the 3 other schools that my kids have matriculated to (well, 2 of the 3 - 1 is still a small school that falls all over itself in simple day-to-day student life management), i feel very solid in my decision and my kids are much happier on their respective campus than they would have been punching nerds on the heights

all these discussions of revitalizing the basketball program, much like the discussions about the football program, could be applied to the school administration as well. the place has gotten stale and i have to believe i'm not the only parent/alumnus that see it

tre did you even encourage your kids to apply to BC? Just curious. My daughter is a high school junior and is taking the SATs today and we'll be going through the college application process in the next few months. My concern is not athletics. It is which school she could attend that will give her a better shot (later) at medical school. I am having a hard time justifying the extra expense which would deplete everything in her 529 for a private education when a state university might well give her the same opportunities upon graduation, depending on her transcripts.

[angrychicken]

shit athletics are also a factor to parents thinking of sending their kids to the heights. i, for one, aimed my kids in other directions because the athletics suck on top of the growth in price tag out pacing the progression in academics. i am nowhere near as rah-rah about bc as an institution as i was 10 or 15 years ago and that all holds true because of sucky athletics. seeing the 3 other schools that my kids have matriculated to (well, 2 of the 3 - 1 is still a small school that falls all over itself in simple day-to-day student life management), i feel very solid in my decision and my kids are much happier on their respective campus than they would have been punching nerds on the heights

all these discussions of revitalizing the basketball program, much like the discussions about the football program, could be applied to the school administration as well. the place has gotten stale and i have to believe i'm not the only parent/alumnus that see it

tre did you even encourage your kids to apply to BC? Just curious. My daughter is a high school junior and is taking the SATs today and we'll be going through the college application process in the next few months. My concern is not athletics. It is which school she could attend that will give her a better shot (later) at medical school. I am having a hard time justifying the extra expense which would deplete everything in her 529 for a private education when a state university might well give her the same opportunities upon graduation, depending on her transcripts.

[Corporal Funishment]

So much talk about what we should look for in a coach, and no one even mentions an unshakeable Catholic faith?

[angrychicken]

I really don't care who the coach is as long as he's willing to wear a mock turtleneck from Eastern Clothing of Watertown.

[innocentbystander]

shit athletics are also a factor to parents thinking of sending their kids to the heights. i, for one, aimed my kids in other directions because the athletics suck on top of the growth in price tag out pacing the progression in academics. i am nowhere near as rah-rah about bc as an institution as i was 10 or 15 years ago and that all holds true because of sucky athletics. seeing the 3 other schools that my kids have matriculated to (well, 2 of the 3 - 1 is still a small school that falls all over itself in simple day-to-day student life management), i feel very solid in my decision and my kids are much happier on their respective campus than they would have been punching nerds on the heights

all these discussions of revitalizing the basketball program, much like the discussions about the football program, could be applied to the school administration as well. the place has gotten stale and i have to believe i'm not the only parent/alumnus that see it

tre did you even encourage your kids to apply to BC? Just curious. My daughter is a high school junior and is taking the SATs today and we'll be going through the college application process in the next few months. My concern is not athletics. It is which school she could attend that will give her a better shot (later) at medical school. I am having a hard time justifying the extra expense which would deplete everything in her 529 for a private education when a state university might well give her the same opportunities upon graduation, depending on her transcripts.

Get married. And breed. And save for their education the way tre and I did. Then your snide comments might have value. Right now you've got nothing.

[HJS]

I really don't care who the coach is as long as he's willing to wear a mock turtleneck from Eastern Clothing of Watertown.

I'm shocked that no one has yet mentioned the most obvious candidate. We don't deserve nice things when we can't come up with layup elite coaches (while tying ourselves in knots over Coen, Gates and Eisley).
There is a readily available... minority head coach... in his 40s... familiar with New England... 17 years in the NBA... and coached his team to a National Championship.

[angrychicken]

shit athletics are also a factor to parents thinking of sending their kids to the heights. i, for one, aimed my kids in other directions because the athletics suck on top of the growth in price tag out pacing the progression in academics. i am nowhere near as rah-rah about bc as an institution as i was 10 or 15 years ago and that all holds true because of sucky athletics. seeing the 3 other schools that my kids have matriculated to (well, 2 of the 3 - 1 is still a small school that falls all over itself in simple day-to-day student life management), i feel very solid in my decision and my kids are much happier on their respective campus than they would have been punching nerds on the heights

all these discussions of revitalizing the basketball program, much like the discussions about the football program, could be applied to the school administration as well. the place has gotten stale and i have to believe i'm not the only parent/alumnus that see it

tre did you even encourage your kids to apply to BC? Just curious. My daughter is a high school junior and is taking the SATs today and we'll be going through the college application process in the next few months. My concern is not athletics. It is which school she could attend that will give her a better shot (later) at medical school. I am having a hard time justifying the extra expense which would deplete everything in her 529 for a private education when a state university might well give her the same opportunities upon graduation, depending on her transcripts.

Get married. And breed. And save for their education the way tre and I did. Then your snide comments might have value. Right now you've got nothing.

Sounds like you really have life by the balls.

[BCMurt09]

I really don't care who the coach is as long as he's willing to wear a mock turtleneck from Eastern Clothing of Watertown.

I'm shocked that no one has yet mentioned the most obvious candidate. We don't deserve nice things when we can't come up with layup elite coaches (while tying ourselves in knots over Coen, Gates and Eisley).
There is a readily available... minority head coach... in his 40s... familiar with New England... 17 years in the NBA... and coached his team to a National Championship.

I was deep into Division III coaching staffs before I realized who you were talking about. NCAA violations notwithstanding, he couldn't be any worse than Dennis Gates.

[innocentbystander]

shit athletics are also a factor to parents thinking of sending their kids to the heights. i, for one, aimed my kids in other directions because the athletics suck on top of the growth in price tag out pacing the progression in academics. i am nowhere near as rah-rah about bc as an institution as i was 10 or 15 years ago and that all holds true because of sucky athletics. seeing the 3 other schools that my kids have matriculated to (well, 2 of the 3 - 1 is still a small school that falls all over itself in simple day-to-day student life management), i feel very solid in my decision and my kids are much happier on their respective campus than they would have been punching nerds on the heights

all these discussions of revitalizing the basketball program, much like the discussions about the football program, could be applied to the school administration as well. the place has gotten stale and i have to believe i'm not the only parent/alumnus that see it

tre did you even encourage your kids to apply to BC? Just curious. My daughter is a high school junior and is taking the SATs today and we'll be going through the college application process in the next few months. My concern is not athletics. It is which school she could attend that will give her a better shot (later) at medical school. I am having a hard time justifying the extra expense which would deplete everything in her 529 for a private education when a state university might well give her the same opportunities upon graduation, depending on her transcripts.

Get married. And breed. And save for their education the way tre and I did. Then your snide comments might have value. Right now you've got nothing.

Sounds like you really have life by the balls.

I don't. If I had it by the balls I wouldn't have had to ask tre his opinion on higher education. I value is opinion.

Chickenman, I want to value your opinion again, but its been a long time since you said anything nice or productive to me since you helped with the 1031 exchange. I want that chicken back, not this one you have become lately.

[HJS]

I really don't care who the coach is as long as he's willing to wear a mock turtleneck from Eastern Clothing of Watertown.

I'm shocked that no one has yet mentioned the most obvious candidate. We don't deserve nice things when we can't come up with layup elite coaches (while tying ourselves in knots over Coen, Gates and Eisley).
There is a readily available... minority head coach... in his 40s... familiar with New England... 17 years in the NBA... and coached his team to a National Championship.

I was deep into Division III coaching staffs before I realized who you were talking about. NCAA violations notwithstanding, he couldn't be any worse than Dennis Gates.

The enemy of my enemy is my friend.

[BCEagles25]

How is it that IB’s karma can be something like -108 and then a week later it’s +32? I deserve a tidal wave of nerd-napalm wedgies for even looking at that metric, but it’s probably the most interesting thing about BC basketball to me right now.

[twballgame9]

shit athletics are also a factor to parents thinking of sending their kids to the heights. i, for one, aimed my kids in other directions because the athletics suck on top of the growth in price tag out pacing the progression in academics. i am nowhere near as rah-rah about bc as an institution as i was 10 or 15 years ago and that all holds true because of sucky athletics. seeing the 3 other schools that my kids have matriculated to (well, 2 of the 3 - 1 is still a small school that falls all over itself in simple day-to-day student life management), i feel very solid in my decision and my kids are much happier on their respective campus than they would have been punching nerds on the heights

all these discussions of revitalizing the basketball program, much like the discussions about the football program, could be applied to the school administration as well. the place has gotten stale and i have to believe i'm not the only parent/alumnus that see it

tre did you even encourage your kids to apply to BC? Just curious. My daughter is a high school junior and is taking the SATs today and we'll be going through the college application process in the next few months. My concern is not athletics. It is which school she could attend that will give her a better shot (later) at medical school. I am having a hard time justifying the extra expense which would deplete everything in her 529 for a private education when a state university might well give her the same opportunities upon graduation, depending on her transcripts.

I don't normally give legit advice to you but if your daughter is certain to go med school already and she's smart enough to nail the boards, send her to state school. Crucial in this advice is that you have to be comfortable that she will fucking nail her boards after college.

[Shoreagle]

shit athletics are also a factor to parents thinking of sending their kids to the heights. i, for one, aimed my kids in other directions because the athletics suck on top of the growth in price tag out pacing the progression in academics. i am nowhere near as rah-rah about bc as an institution as i was 10 or 15 years ago and that all holds true because of sucky athletics. seeing the 3 other schools that my kids have matriculated to (well, 2 of the 3 - 1 is still a small school that falls all over itself in simple day-to-day student life management), i feel very solid in my decision and my kids are much happier on their respective campus than they would have been punching nerds on the heights

all these discussions of revitalizing the basketball program, much like the discussions about the football program, could be applied to the school administration as well. the place has gotten stale and i have to believe i'm not the only parent/alumnus that see it

tre did you even encourage your kids to apply to BC? Just curious. My daughter is a high school junior and is taking the SATs today and we'll be going through the college application process in the next few months. My concern is not athletics. It is which school she could attend that will give her a better shot (later) at medical school. I am having a hard time justifying the extra expense which would deplete everything in her 529 for a private education when a state university might well give her the same opportunities upon graduation, depending on her transcripts.

Get married. And breed. And save for their education the way tre and I did. Then your snide comments might have value. Right now you've got nothing.

Sounds like you really have life by the balls.

I don't. If I had it by the balls I wouldn't have had to ask tre his opinion on higher education. I value is opinion.

Chickenman, I want to value your opinion again.

Racist!

[twballgame9]

And this advice comes from someone who did just that, maybe not entirely from that logical of an analysis at the time, but it worked out that way.

[eepstein0]

If NBA playing career was a thing, Georgetown and Vandy and Wake and Pacific and Portland would have been crushing it with Patrick Ewing, Jerry Stackhouse, Danny Manning, Damon Staoudamire and Terry Porter as their respective head coaches.

Just playing in the NBA is not the point, no one thinks Dennis Rodman should get the Indiana job. But when you also coached in the league for a long time, served as an assistant at a major program (led by a young African American ex-NBA alum with 6 years of NBA assistant coaching experience that had the squad at #2 in the country prior to yesterday), the NBA experience is another arrow in the recruiting quiver.

Eisley is not a small time hire. You might be able to get him for relatively cheap though, now. If UM continues the way they have this season, Eisley is going to blow up sooner or later.

I’d prefer an established guy like Willard, but Eisley nor Gates are small time hires. I’d rather take a chance with them than the JTIII, Paul Hewitt, Brian Gregory crew.

Both Eisley and Gates will get interviews for HC jobs this year outside of BC