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Game 28 - Clemson

Postby eepstein0 on Sat Feb 22, 2020 11:09 am

Another winnable home game
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Re: Game 28 - Clemson

Postby DomingoOrtiz on Sat Feb 22, 2020 7:24 pm

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Re: Game 28 - Clemson

Postby BCEagles25 on Sat Feb 22, 2020 7:34 pm

The middle of the game is a weird time to quit
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Re: Game 28 - Clemson

Postby MilitantEagle on Sat Feb 22, 2020 8:40 pm

BC has not defeated Clemson since 2013. Christian decided to put himself back on the hot seat with that effort. Clemson was 19-22 from inside the arc and 70% overall. Would love to know the last time an ACC team did that well shooting.
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Re: Game 28 - Clemson

Postby eepstein0 on Sat Feb 22, 2020 9:07 pm

At minimum they need to fire some assistants at the end of this year.
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Re: Game 28 - Clemson

Postby ATLeagle on Sat Feb 22, 2020 9:15 pm

eepstein0 wrote:At minimum they need to fire some assistants at the end of this year.


The assistants are doing all the recruiting which is better than the actual coaching.
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Re: Game 28 - Clemson

Postby eepstein0 on Sat Feb 22, 2020 10:18 pm

ATLeagle wrote:
eepstein0 wrote:At minimum they need to fire some assistants at the end of this year.


The assistants are doing all the recruiting which is better than the actual coaching.


The coaching on defense tonight was really bad.

Jarius also got in a disagreement with our fearless leader and was benched
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Re: Game 28 - Clemson

Postby twballgame9 on Sat Feb 22, 2020 11:36 pm

ATLeagle wrote:
eepstein0 wrote:At minimum they need to fire some assistants at the end of this year.


The assistants are doing all the recruiting which is better than the actual coaching.


Jesus.
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Re: Game 28 - Clemson

Postby twballgame9 on Sat Feb 22, 2020 11:37 pm

eepstein0 wrote:
ATLeagle wrote:
eepstein0 wrote:At minimum they need to fire some assistants at the end of this year.


The assistants are doing all the recruiting which is better than the actual coaching.


The coaching on defense tonight was really bad.

Jarius also got in a disagreement with our fearless leader and was benched


I'll take jarius in this debate
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Re: Game 28 - Clemson

Postby claver2010 on Sun Feb 23, 2020 8:51 am

we're going to find out in about 3 weeks whether mj has the authority to fire the two highest paid employees at the school in a span of 3 months
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Re: Game 28 - Clemson

Postby eepstein0 on Sun Feb 23, 2020 10:29 am

claver2010 wrote:we're going to find out in about 3 weeks whether mj has the authority to fire the two highest paid employees at the school in a span of 3 months


I’d really only support firing him if there’s a good option behind Door 2. Firing him for Bill Coen or whatever is just moving the deck chairs around the Titantic.
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Re: Game 28 - Clemson

Postby twballgame9 on Sun Feb 23, 2020 10:44 am

eepstein0 wrote:
claver2010 wrote:we're going to find out in about 3 weeks whether mj has the authority to fire the two highest paid employees at the school in a span of 3 months


I’d really only support firing him if there’s a good option behind Door 2. Firing him for Bill Coen or whatever is just moving the deck chairs around the Titantic.


I'm fine with Marty making the call on a new coach. But between ACCN and the current guy, I've watched 3 or 4 full games this season. There's no indication this team will be worth watching in the near future despite some decent players.
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Re: Game 28 - Clemson

Postby ATLeagle on Sun Feb 23, 2020 10:59 am

eepstein0 wrote:
claver2010 wrote:we're going to find out in about 3 weeks whether mj has the authority to fire the two highest paid employees at the school in a span of 3 months


I’d really only support firing him if there’s a good option behind Door 2. Firing him for Bill Coen or whatever is just moving the deck chairs around the Titantic.


Aside from Beilein, who are some acceptable Door 2 options for you? I think the Eisley talk is premature given lack of recruiting. I love Woodward, but it would be a huge leap for him too. Dudley talk is silly given he can keep making millions in the NBA and probably have his pick of NBA jobs in the near future.

John Becker? Dutcher (a little old and probably cheating)? Willard (I like and we can outbid Seton Hall, but I could see him being picky). Wojo? David Cox?
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Re: Game 28 - Clemson

Postby HJS on Sun Feb 23, 2020 11:24 am

ATLeagle wrote:
eepstein0 wrote:
claver2010 wrote:we're going to find out in about 3 weeks whether mj has the authority to fire the two highest paid employees at the school in a span of 3 months


I’d really only support firing him if there’s a good option behind Door 2. Firing him for Bill Coen or whatever is just moving the deck chairs around the Titantic.


Aside from Beilein, who are some acceptable Door 2 options for you? I think the Eisley talk is premature given lack of recruiting. I love Woodward, but it would be a huge leap for him too. Dudley talk is silly given he can keep making millions in the NBA and probably have his pick of NBA jobs in the near future.

John Becker? Dutcher (a little old and probably cheating)? Willard (I like and we can outbid Seton Hall, but I could see him being picky). Wojo? David Cox?

I agree with eppy and ATL’s response kinda hammers home the problem. Everyone mentioned is better than Jimmy Mac. But, that shouldn’t be the standard we are pursuing. I’m of the opinion that the program is now dead. As a result, I see little harm in waiting to make a move this year vs next. However, making a third straight bad hire permanently ruins the program and cements it as the worst in the ACC. No program is coming back after 15 years of irrelevance.

I think we need to hire a big name or find the next Coach K. Both paths are incredibly hard, and are unlikely to accomplish. Accordingly, I would like to be in the best shape possible when we move forward. If that means waiting a year to get a clear vision on a facility and/or giving us more money for the next staff (by letting the current buyout drop), we should wait. If donations for a facility are contingent upon a change and/or Leahy will pay whatever it takes to hire a massive coach, then we should make a move this year.

What we should not do... is make move now because JC is clearly not the answer and we are confidant in landing a coach who will have us in the NIT at least once over the next 5 years.
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Re: Game 28 - Clemson

Postby Corporal Funishment on Sun Feb 23, 2020 12:02 pm

HJS wrote:
ATLeagle wrote:
eepstein0 wrote:
claver2010 wrote:we're going to find out in about 3 weeks whether mj has the authority to fire the two highest paid employees at the school in a span of 3 months


I’d really only support firing him if there’s a good option behind Door 2. Firing him for Bill Coen or whatever is just moving the deck chairs around the Titantic.


Aside from Beilein, who are some acceptable Door 2 options for you? I think the Eisley talk is premature given lack of recruiting. I love Woodward, but it would be a huge leap for him too. Dudley talk is silly given he can keep making millions in the NBA and probably have his pick of NBA jobs in the near future.

John Becker? Dutcher (a little old and probably cheating)? Willard (I like and we can outbid Seton Hall, but I could see him being picky). Wojo? David Cox?

I agree with eppy and ATL’s response kinda hammers home the problem. Everyone mentioned is better than Jimmy Mac. But, that shouldn’t be the standard we are pursuing. I’m of the opinion that the program is now dead. As a result, I see little harm in waiting to make a move this year vs next. However, making a third straight bad hire permanently ruins the program and cements it as the worst in the ACC. No program is coming back after 15 years of irrelevance.

I think we need to hire a big name or find the next Coach K. Both paths are incredibly hard, and are unlikely to accomplish. Accordingly, I would like to be in the best shape possible when we move forward. If that means waiting a year to get a clear vision on a facility and/or giving us more money for the next staff (by letting the current buyout drop), we should wait. If donations for a facility are contingent upon a change and/or Leahy will pay whatever it takes to hire a massive coach, then we should make a move this year.

What we should not do... is make move now because JC is clearly not the answer and we are confidant in landing a coach who will have us in the NIT at least once over the next 5 years.


Find the next coach K? Let's just recruit the next Michael Jordan too.

Make a phone call to Beilein, Shaka, even Archie Miller. And for the love of everything holy do not fire JC until you have someone else ready to sign
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Re: Game 28 - Clemson

Postby 2001Eagle on Sun Feb 23, 2020 12:10 pm

Keeping jimmy Mac for another year is disgusting. It’s a joke. Worst acc winning percentage ever right? fully support hiring Becker. 4 straight conference titles.
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Re: Game 28 - Clemson

Postby twballgame9 on Sun Feb 23, 2020 1:23 pm

It's going to be easier to get a hoop coach than a football coach. Football is much harder at BC relative to basketball.
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Re: Game 28 - Clemson

Postby eepstein0 on Sun Feb 23, 2020 5:19 pm

Corporal Funishment wrote:
HJS wrote:
ATLeagle wrote:
eepstein0 wrote:
claver2010 wrote:we're going to find out in about 3 weeks whether mj has the authority to fire the two highest paid employees at the school in a span of 3 months


I’d really only support firing him if there’s a good option behind Door 2. Firing him for Bill Coen or whatever is just moving the deck chairs around the Titantic.


Aside from Beilein, who are some acceptable Door 2 options for you? I think the Eisley talk is premature given lack of recruiting. I love Woodward, but it would be a huge leap for him too. Dudley talk is silly given he can keep making millions in the NBA and probably have his pick of NBA jobs in the near future.

John Becker? Dutcher (a little old and probably cheating)? Willard (I like and we can outbid Seton Hall, but I could see him being picky). Wojo? David Cox?

I agree with eppy and ATL’s response kinda hammers home the problem. Everyone mentioned is better than Jimmy Mac. But, that shouldn’t be the standard we are pursuing. I’m of the opinion that the program is now dead. As a result, I see little harm in waiting to make a move this year vs next. However, making a third straight bad hire permanently ruins the program and cements it as the worst in the ACC. No program is coming back after 15 years of irrelevance.

I think we need to hire a big name or find the next Coach K. Both paths are incredibly hard, and are unlikely to accomplish. Accordingly, I would like to be in the best shape possible when we move forward. If that means waiting a year to get a clear vision on a facility and/or giving us more money for the next staff (by letting the current buyout drop), we should wait. If donations for a facility are contingent upon a change and/or Leahy will pay whatever it takes to hire a massive coach, then we should make a move this year.

What we should not do... is make move now because JC is clearly not the answer and we are confidant in landing a coach who will have us in the NIT at least once over the next 5 years.


Find the next coach K? Let's just recruit the next Michael Jordan too.

Make a phone call to Beilein, Shaka, even Archie Miller. And for the love of everything holy do not fire JC until you have someone else ready to sign


The above sums it up nicely. I’d be fine with Eisley. As mentioned, I want nothing to do with Dudley.
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Re: Game 28 - Clemson

Postby MF73-Eleazar on Mon Feb 24, 2020 5:28 pm

Dudley stated that he would like to eventually be a college coach. I was surprised when he said it, tbh.
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Re: Game 28 - Clemson

Postby eepstein0 on Fri Mar 20, 2020 2:39 pm

eepstein0 wrote:
ATLeagle wrote:
eepstein0 wrote:At minimum they need to fire some assistants at the end of this year.


The assistants are doing all the recruiting which is better than the actual coaching.


The coaching on defense tonight was really bad.

Jarius also got in a disagreement with our fearless leader and was benched


See above on the Jarius thing.
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