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Re: Robinson Gone

Postby HJS on Fri Jun 22, 2018 1:22 pm

I can only speak for 91-92 season on. But, I would say (in order):

Troy Bell
Craig Smith
Bill Curley
Jared Dudley

Reggie Jackson
Howard Eisley
Tyrese Rice
Jerome Robinson
Olivier Hanlan
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Scoonie Penn
Ryan Anderson
Ky Bowman
Uka Agbai
Ryan Sidney
Malcolm Huckaby
Sean Marshall
Louis Hinnant

After that, I'd have sentimental favorites like G.Abrams, Granger, Woodward, Maglos Berbohm, Singletary and Walls. But, none of them will be in consideration for a plaque alongside GDF.
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Re: Robinson Gone

Postby MilitantEagle on Fri Jun 22, 2018 1:35 pm

I think Jared Dudley gets my vote for number one in the Conte Forum era. Or at least a tie with Troy. Troy won two POYs and a Big East championship, but only went to the NCAAs twice and never made it past the Round of 32. Also, Troy Bell and Craig Smith failed to go to the NCAAs during their one year together. Jared went to the NCAAs all 4 years he was at BC, won ACC POY, and had a trip to the Sweet 16. And if JJ doesn't go nuts in the final few minutes of the ACC tourney, Jared would have had an ACC title as well.
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Re: Robinson Gone

Postby TobaccoRoadEagle on Fri Jun 22, 2018 1:49 pm

king of the court, birdman and kenbone each have a special place in my heart and therefore make my list of top 20

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Re: Robinson Gone

Postby MilitantEagle on Fri Jun 22, 2018 1:52 pm

MilitantEagle wrote:I think Jared Dudley gets my vote for number one in the Conte Forum era. Or at least a tie with Troy. Troy won two POYs and a Big East championship, but only went to the NCAAs twice and never made it past the Round of 32. Also, Troy Bell and Craig Smith failed to go to the NCAAs during their one year together. Jared went to the NCAAs all 4 years he was at BC, won ACC POY, and had a trip to the Sweet 16. And if JJ doesn't go nuts in the final few minutes of the ACC tourney, Jared would have had an ACC title as well.


And I forgot, you can add the 2005 Big East Regular Season Championship to Jared's resume.
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Re: Robinson Gone

Postby b0mberMan on Fri Jun 22, 2018 1:58 pm

Primetime wrote:
b0mberMan wrote:No Reggie?


Reggie really only had one high-level year, and his college stats are less impressive than I remember. His game/athleticism just translated to the NBA really well.

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/pl ... son-1.html

Turns out, I thought he had better college numbers too.

Man his 3pt % was horrendous his frosh and soph years...
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Re: Robinson Gone

Postby twballgame9 on Fri Jun 22, 2018 2:54 pm

John Oates is underrepresented.
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Re: Robinson Gone

Postby TobaccoRoadEagle on Fri Jun 22, 2018 3:05 pm

tre favorite 20 bc players

the nostalgia 6 - from my senior year, the 5 starters and the ice ball target
1. billy curly
2. howard eisley
3. malcolm huckaby
4. gerrod abram
5. danya abrams
6. paul grant (and his stone hard hands)

my favorite team 5
7. craig smith
8. jared dudley
9. sean marshall
10. louis hinnant
11. towlie

the other dook abuser
12. kenny walls

no specific ties, just good guys
13. mc troy bell
14. ty rice
15. dana barros
16. michael adams
17. schoonie penn
18. reggie jackson
19. ryan "25/12" anderson
20. john oates


j rob didn't get to an ncaa game and was part of a team that went winless in the conference. i can't find any of my 20 to bump for him
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Re: Robinson Gone

Postby DomingoOrtiz on Fri Jun 22, 2018 3:20 pm

The guy that kept on getting pistol whipped with the ceilingscrapping, no rotation 3-point shot.
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Re: Robinson Gone

Postby vegasEagle on Fri Jun 22, 2018 3:25 pm

Nobody mentioned fan favorite Marc Molinsky
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Re: Robinson Gone

Postby TobaccoRoadEagle on Fri Jun 22, 2018 4:04 pm

vegasEagle wrote:Nobody mentioned fan favorite Marc Molinsky

i actually have him in my 6 position but named paul grant for ice-ball comedy purposes
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Re: Robinson Gone

Postby MilitantEagle on Fri Jun 22, 2018 4:36 pm

vegasEagle wrote:Nobody mentioned fan favorite Marc Molinsky


I think he's the only basketball alum that goes to the games regularly. Or used to anyway. Beerbohm did for a while but after Al got fired his attendance dropped off.
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Re: Robinson Gone

Postby MattTheEagle on Fri Jun 22, 2018 4:39 pm

I don’t know how this turned into a bash JC or a JRob isn’t that good thread. Kid can ball. Had JRob stayed I think many would agree BC would be a top 25 team.

I’ve been critical of Christian but he gets massive props in recruiting JRob when no other power 5 wanted him and developing him into a lottery pick. Also, helped having Bowman which gave BC some support and one of the best back courts in the country.
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Re: Robinson Gone

Postby twballgame9 on Fri Jun 22, 2018 5:52 pm

vegasEagle wrote:Nobody mentioned fan favorite Marc Molinsky


Couldn't he hit a golf ball a mile?
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Re: Robinson Gone

Postby twballgame9 on Fri Jun 22, 2018 5:54 pm

Antonio Granger has to be on a favorites list.
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Re: Robinson Gone

Postby Corporal Funishment on Fri Jun 22, 2018 6:17 pm

TobaccoRoadEagle wrote:jrob succeeded in spite of jimmy mac.



I'd love to hear the points of evidence which support this conclusion
I look forward to being called stupid for expressing the above thought.
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Re: Robinson Gone

Postby Dick Rosenthal on Fri Jun 22, 2018 7:00 pm

Sorry, I don’t see it with JRob. There is a lengthy list of guys—spelled out elsewhere in this thread—who had better results at BC and/or made their respective teams much better. For me it isn’t even the atrocious defense—in today’s NBA that isn’t much of a handicap. It is an overall lack of toughness and effort and watching him fold too many times where I think an”lottery pick” who have stepped up and carried the team.
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Re: Robinson Gone

Postby TobaccoRoadEagle on Fri Jun 22, 2018 10:33 pm

Corporal Funishment wrote:
TobaccoRoadEagle wrote:jrob succeeded in spite of jimmy mac.



I'd love to hear the points of evidence which support this conclusion

He was picked as a bakers dozen after losing more games than he won in college

I know you’re thick. Let me know if this doesn’t make sense to you
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Re: Robinson Gone

Postby 2001Eagle on Sat Jun 23, 2018 7:50 am

Duane Woodward and Ryan Sidney also deserve a mention
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Re: Robinson Gone

Postby Corporal Funishment on Sat Jun 23, 2018 9:11 am

TobaccoRoadEagle wrote:
Corporal Funishment wrote:
TobaccoRoadEagle wrote:jrob succeeded in spite of jimmy mac.



I'd love to hear the points of evidence which support this conclusion

He was picked as a bakers dozen after losing more games than he won in college

I know you’re thick. Let me know if this doesn’t make sense to you


Now the conclusion rests upon the premise that win-loss record is important in determining a player's draft position. I suspect the correlation is statistically indistinguishable from 0
I look forward to being called stupid for expressing the above thought.
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Re: Robinson Gone

Postby Dick Rosenthal on Sat Jun 23, 2018 10:24 am

I suspect you’d be wrong from a statiscal model standpoint. I would be willing to bet a substantial amount of money that the overwhelming majority of lottery picks play on successful college basketball teams. I think that result would largely be the result of the fact that a player with lottery pick-level talent is usually far superior at the game of basketball then the players he is competing against and thus provides his team with an on court advantage. And while I believe Jim Christian is a mediocre at best coach, BC is no longer bereft of talent on its roster and I would think that if JRob were actually destined for a successful NBA career, even with mediocre coaching BC could have done better than the utterly shittastic results of the last two years.
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Re: Robinson Gone

Postby MattTheEagle on Sat Jun 23, 2018 11:47 am

Corporal Funishment wrote:
TobaccoRoadEagle wrote:
Corporal Funishment wrote:
TobaccoRoadEagle wrote:jrob succeeded in spite of jimmy mac.



I'd love to hear the points of evidence which support this conclusion

He was picked as a bakers dozen after losing more games than he won in college

I know you’re thick. Let me know if this doesn’t make sense to you


Now the conclusion rests upon the premise that win-loss record is important in determining a player's draft position. I suspect the correlation is statistically indistinguishable from 0

Funishment most probably agree with you but have learned long ago it’s not worth arguing with TRE. When he talks sports it’s either a meatbomb in disguise or an attempt to rile up the gullible. He succeeded.

Haven’t you learned from your whole salt queen phase?
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Re: Robinson Gone

Postby Brooklyneagle on Sat Jun 23, 2018 9:38 pm

What about John Bagley? Michael Adams? John Austin (first team All-America)?
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Re: Robinson Gone

Postby TobaccoRoadEagle on Sun Jun 24, 2018 8:54 am

MattTheEagle wrote:
Corporal Funishment wrote:
TobaccoRoadEagle wrote:
Corporal Funishment wrote:
TobaccoRoadEagle wrote:jrob succeeded in spite of jimmy mac.



I'd love to hear the points of evidence which support this conclusion

He was picked as a bakers dozen after losing more games than he won in college

I know you’re thick. Let me know if this doesn’t make sense to you


Now the conclusion rests upon the premise that win-loss record is important in determining a player's draft position. I suspect the correlation is statistically indistinguishable from 0

Funishment most probably agree with you but have learned long ago it’s not worth arguing with TRE. When he talks sports it’s either a meatbomb in disguise or an attempt to rile up the gullible. He succeeded.

Haven’t you learned from your whole salt queen phase?


you’re right, history has proven time and again that the best players come from really really shitty teams
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Re: Robinson Gone

Postby Corporal Funishment on Sun Jun 24, 2018 9:33 am

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Re: Robinson Gone

Postby twballgame9 on Sun Jun 24, 2018 10:31 am

twballgame9 wrote:He's top 20 in BC is somewhat relevant era (1965 or so on). I would put him 16 after these guys in alphabetical order. Huckaby, Marshall, Agbai, Hanlan probably round the 20, with Bowman a TBD. I may be missing someone from the 70s like Carrington, because I am biased to the post 1990 guys.

Abrams
Adams
Bagley
Barros
Bell
Cobb
Curley
Driscoll
Dudley
Eisley
Murphy
O'Brien
Smith
Rice
Williams


This is for the guy that thinks we overlooked bagley and adams.
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Re: Robinson Gone

Postby eepstein0 on Sun Jun 24, 2018 6:05 pm

Do people seriously think Sean Marshall is better than Jerome Robinson? I’m not the biggest JRob guy but that is crazy.

JRob can score and that will always play in the NBA.
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Re: Robinson Gone

Postby twballgame9 on Mon Jun 25, 2018 7:42 am

eepstein0 wrote:Do people seriously think Sean Marshall is better than Jerome Robinson? I’m not the biggest JRob guy but that is crazy.

JRob can score and that will always play in the NBA.


I didn't see anyone say that.
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Re: Robinson Gone

Postby TobaccoRoadEagle on Mon Jun 25, 2018 7:53 am

twballgame9 wrote:
eepstein0 wrote:Do people seriously think Sean Marshall is better than Jerome Robinson? I’m not the biggest JRob guy but that is crazy.

JRob can score and that will always play in the NBA.


I didn't see anyone say that.

in fairness, i listed my 20 favorite bc players. i did not say these are who i think are the best bc players, only identified them as my favorite.

i can imagine that someone with microdick's comprehension and deep thinking made them one and the same.
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Re: Robinson Gone

Postby b0mberMan on Tue Jun 26, 2018 8:23 am

Dick Rosenthal wrote:I suspect you’d be wrong from a statiscal model standpoint. I would be willing to bet a substantial amount of money that the overwhelming majority of lottery picks play on successful college basketball teams. I think that result would largely be the result of the fact that a player with lottery pick-level talent is usually far superior at the game of basketball then the players he is competing against and thus provides his team with an on court advantage. And while I believe Jim Christian is a mediocre at best coach, BC is no longer bereft of talent on its roster and I would think that if JRob were actually destined for a successful NBA career, even with mediocre coaching BC could have done better than the utterly shittastic results of the last two years.


Overwhelmingly, lottery picks are freshman who were the top high school players in the nation the year before. And those players usually go to successful college programs. J Rob is pretty much the exception this year - upperclassman, not a top recruit when he was choosing college, played for a mediocre team.

So to the first point, Dick's right. The 2nd point is to be seen.
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Re: Robinson Gone

Postby b0mberMan on Tue Jun 26, 2018 8:30 am

twballgame9 wrote:
eepstein0 wrote:Do people seriously think Sean Marshall is better than Jerome Robinson? I’m not the biggest JRob guy but that is crazy.

JRob can score and that will always play in the NBA.


I didn't see anyone say that.

I'll say it. He's tied for 1st in BC history with Kenny Walls in pushing JJ Redick at half court.
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