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Tom Dooder {l Wrote}:

DavidGordonsFoot {l Wrote}:Even if he gets a 6th year, he'll bail after they can Jimmy Mac.

If Jimmy Mac makes the NIT and gets the recruits he's rumored to get, that's not happening.

Corporal Funishment {l Wrote}:This is a difficult question, and naturally the board's intellectual lightweights have clearly spent less time wrestling with its intricacies than they have their own weiners.

The medical redshirt rule is 30% of games, so he's fine there, unless BC proves so dominant that the rest of the NCAA rolls over and abandons the season in mid-February (plausible, but not probable). The issue is eligibility clock. I'm not sure what the NCAA will make of his "non-qualifier" year in 2013-14. He non-qualified 1 year, then played 3 at Illinois State, then transferred here. The eligibility clock supposedly starts when you enroll full-time at a college. If that year doesn't count (board lawyers, make yourself useful for once), this is a simple medical redshirt application and he's fine. If that year counts, he's already on his 5th year and he would need a special hardship extension to play again. Supposedly, the standard here for obtaining a sixth year is that a player missed 2 years for reasons beyond his own control. The injury this year would count, the non-qualifer year is hard to say. Hawkins committed to Wichita State, decommitted without ever playing, and was made to sit out a year by the conference commissioner as an intra-conference transfer, in what contemporary media reports call a "unique ruling." As far as I can tell, Hawkins didn't practice with the team that year but he was a student at the school. I would wonder if that was done to preserve eligibility...?

So in conclusion, the issues are:
Did his eligibility clock start in 2013-14?
If no, we're fine. If yes, as I unfortunately suspect...

Will sitting out that 2013-14 year count as a hardship beyond his control?
If yes, we're fine. If no, as I unfortunately suspect, he's done.

There's also the issue of does he want to come back another year. I have no idea on that one but I would suspect it's tied to over- or underachievement this year and whether or not some of our draftable prospects decide to get themselves drafted and whether the coach is still the MAC's winningest.

This would be a fine place for the board insiders to chime in.

eagle9903 {l Wrote}:

Corporal Funishment {l Wrote}:This is a difficult question, and naturally the board's intellectual lightweights have clearly spent less time wrestling with its intricacies than they have their own weiners.

The medical redshirt rule is 30% of games, so he's fine there, unless BC proves so dominant that the rest of the NCAA rolls over and abandons the season in mid-February (plausible, but not probable). The issue is eligibility clock. I'm not sure what the NCAA will make of his "non-qualifier" year in 2013-14. He non-qualified 1 year, then played 3 at Illinois State, then transferred here. The eligibility clock supposedly starts when you enroll full-time at a college. If that year doesn't count (board lawyers, make yourself useful for once), this is a simple medical redshirt application and he's fine. If that year counts, he's already on his 5th year and he would need a special hardship extension to play again. Supposedly, the standard here for obtaining a sixth year is that a player missed 2 years for reasons beyond his own control. The injury this year would count, the non-qualifer year is hard to say. Hawkins committed to Wichita State, decommitted without ever playing, and was made to sit out a year by the conference commissioner as an intra-conference transfer, in what contemporary media reports call a "unique ruling." As far as I can tell, Hawkins didn't practice with the team that year but he was a student at the school. I would wonder if that was done to preserve eligibility...?

So in conclusion, the issues are:
Did his eligibility clock start in 2013-14?
If no, we're fine. If yes, as I unfortunately suspect...

Will sitting out that 2013-14 year count as a hardship beyond his control?
If yes, we're fine. If no, as I unfortunately suspect, he's done.

There's also the issue of does he want to come back another year. I have no idea on that one but I would suspect it's tied to over- or underachievement this year and whether or not some of our draftable prospects decide to get themselves drafted and whether the coach is still the MAC's winningest.

This would be a fine place for the board insiders to chime in.

This is wrong.

twballgame9 {l Wrote}:Is this the slow-moving welterweight under card for micro and Mrs. Skinner?

eagle9903 {l Wrote}:

twballgame9 {l Wrote}:Is this the slow-moving welterweight under card for micro and Mrs. Skinner?

He was wrong.

Corporal Funishment {l Wrote}:

Corporal Funishment {l Wrote}:anddddddddddddddddddddddd 9903 has been placed on the foe list

he's your problem now, everyone else!

Corporal Funishment {l Wrote}:anddddddddddddddddddddddd 9903 has been placed on the foe list

he's your problem now, everyone else!

Corporal Funishment {l Wrote}:anddddddddddddddddddddddd 9903 has been placed on the foe list

he's your problem now, everyone else!

Corporal Funishment {l Wrote}:Somebody tell Dumbass9903 that Hoffses corroborated everything I said about Hawkins' eligibility

eagle9903 {l Wrote}:

Corporal Funishment {l Wrote}:Somebody tell Dumbass9903 that Hoffses corroborated everything I said about Hawkins' eligibility

Coward and no he didn't you liar. You were wrong.

TobaccoRoadEagle {l Wrote}:

eagle9903 {l Wrote}:

Corporal Funishment {l Wrote}:Somebody tell Dumbass9903 that Hoffses corroborated everything I said about Hawkins' eligibility

Coward and no he didn't you liar. You were wrong.

he's the current leader for worst poster for a reason, intern

TobaccoRoadEagle {l Wrote}:

eagle9903 {l Wrote}:

Corporal Funishment {l Wrote}:Somebody tell Dumbass9903 that Hoffses corroborated everything I said about Hawkins' eligibility

Coward and no he didn't you liar. You were wrong.

he's the current leader for worst poster for a reason, intern

eagle9903 {l Wrote}:

TobaccoRoadEagle {l Wrote}:

eagle9903 {l Wrote}:

Corporal Funishment {l Wrote}:Somebody tell Dumbass9903 that Hoffses corroborated everything I said about Hawkins' eligibility

Coward and no he didn't you liar. You were wrong.

he's the current leader for worst poster for a reason, intern

When does the ban start?

missoulaEagle {l Wrote}:Any chance that Hawkins could medical red shirt and come back next year?

sparky {l Wrote}:Not a reliable source, but my ten year old son claims Hawkins told him he'd be back next year while high fiving fans on the way into the tunnel last night.

sparky {l Wrote}:Not a reliable source, but my ten year old son claims Hawkins told him he'd be back next year while high fiving fans on the way into the tunnel last night.

sparky {l Wrote}:Not a reliable source, but my ten year old son claims Hawkins told him he'd be back next year while high fiving fans on the way into the tunnel last night.

sparky {l Wrote}:Not a reliable source, but my ten year old son claims Hawkins told him he'd be back next year while high fiving fans on the way into the tunnel last night.

DavidGordonsFoot {l Wrote}:

sparky {l Wrote}:Not a reliable source, but my ten year old son claims Hawkins told him he'd be back next year while high fiving fans on the way into the tunnel last night.

Your son was at the game, which makes his report more reliable than most of the bullshit we're going to read about Hawkins.

TobaccoRoadEagle {l Wrote}:

DavidGordonsFoot {l Wrote}:

sparky {l Wrote}:Not a reliable source, but my ten year old son claims Hawkins told him he'd be back next year while high fiving fans on the way into the tunnel last night.

Your son was at the game, which makes his report more reliable than most of the bullshit we're going to read about Hawkins.

you mean like that he was in the closet with jimmy mac making babies and i saw one of the babies and the baby looked at me!

sparky {l Wrote}:Not a reliable source, but my ten year old son claims Hawkins told him he'd be back next year while high fiving fans on the way into the tunnel last night.