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Re: Coaches Leaving/Transfer/5th Year Thread 2017

Postby thebs19 on Thu Mar 23, 2017 5:50 pm

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Fordham forward Chris Sengfelder told ESPN he will transfer. Will graduate. Averaged 12.1 ppg and 5.1 rpg. 6-foot-7 from Germany.



This seems too obvious.
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Re: Coaches Leaving/Transfer/5th Year Thread 2017

Postby TobaccoRoadEagle on Thu Mar 23, 2017 6:47 pm

thebs19 wrote:Jeff Goodman
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Fordham forward Chris Sengfelder told ESPN he will transfer. Will graduate. Averaged 12.1 ppg and 5.1 rpg. 6-foot-7 from Germany.



This seems too obvious.

no one that speaks german could be an evil man
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Re: Coaches Leaving/Transfer/5th Year Thread 2017

Postby eepstein0 on Thu Mar 23, 2017 6:53 pm

thebs19 wrote:Jeff Goodman
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Fordham forward Chris Sengfelder told ESPN he will transfer. Will graduate. Averaged 12.1 ppg and 5.1 rpg. 6-foot-7 from Germany.



This seems too obvious.


I feel like we just went down this road with Tava did we not?
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Re: Coaches Leaving/Transfer/5th Year Thread 2017

Postby BCSUPERFAN22 on Thu Mar 23, 2017 7:08 pm

eepstein0 wrote:
thebs19 wrote:Jeff Goodman
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Fordham forward Chris Sengfelder told ESPN he will transfer. Will graduate. Averaged 12.1 ppg and 5.1 rpg. 6-foot-7 from Germany.



This seems too obvious.


I feel like we just went down this road with Tava did we not?


Its actually pretty identical numbers (Tava vs Sengfelder). Tava avg. 12/6 his So and Jr years at WMU. Its more or less the same player vs. similar competition (A10 vs MAC).

You need immediate help at the 4 which Marfo cant provide because of transfer rules (if he came) so out of desperation it could be a possibility, but it is basically Tava 2.0.
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Re: Coaches Leaving/Transfer/5th Year Thread 2017

Postby eepstein0 on Thu Mar 23, 2017 8:16 pm

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eepstein0 wrote:
thebs19 wrote:Jeff Goodman
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Fordham forward Chris Sengfelder told ESPN he will transfer. Will graduate. Averaged 12.1 ppg and 5.1 rpg. 6-foot-7 from Germany.



This seems too obvious.


I feel like we just went down this road with Tava did we not?


Its actually pretty identical numbers (Tava vs Sengfelder). Tava avg. 12/6 his So and Jr years at WMU. Its more or less the same player vs. similar competition (A10 vs MAC).

You need immediate help at the 4 which Marfo cant provide because of transfer rules (if he came) so out of desperation it could be a possibility, but it is basically Tava 2.0.


I have 0 interest in Tava 2.0. Absolutely none. I'd rather play the Euro kid.
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Re: Coaches Leaving/Transfer/5th Year Thread 2017

Postby DavidGordonsFoot on Thu Mar 23, 2017 8:47 pm

thebs19 wrote:Jeff Goodman
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Fordham forward Chris Sengfelder told ESPN he will transfer. Will graduate. Averaged 12.1 ppg and 5.1 rpg. 6-foot-7 from Germany.



This seems too obvious.

Agreed, there is a 1000% chance he joins the team.
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Re: Coaches Leaving/Transfer/5th Year Thread 2017

Postby claver2010 on Fri Mar 24, 2017 7:52 am

i've seen sengfelder play a bunch, he's better than tava but the first game he walks onto the floor the cries of not an acc athlete will rain down. you won't want to gouge your eyes out when he shoots a 3 like tava

not an impact 4 but 10-15 min per night he could be valuable.
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Re: Coaches Leaving/Transfer/5th Year Thread 2017

Postby BCMurt09 on Fri Mar 24, 2017 8:08 am

eepstein0 wrote:
BCMurt09 wrote:Rumors that today will be JT3s final day of employment at Georgetown University.

And Tommy Amaker's Wikipedia page currently says "Head Coach of Georgetown"


I had season tickets for multiple years at Georgetown.

JTIII is horrendous at coaching basketball. His recruiting was decent though.


Article on Deadspin this morning is speculating that the Board stepped in, citing the support JT3 had from the administration.

The Board stepping in. Imagine that.
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Re: Coaches Leaving/Transfer/5th Year Thread 2017

Postby thebs19 on Fri Mar 24, 2017 8:23 am

eepstein0 wrote:
thebs19 wrote:Jeff Goodman
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Fordham forward Chris Sengfelder told ESPN he will transfer. Will graduate. Averaged 12.1 ppg and 5.1 rpg. 6-foot-7 from Germany.



This seems too obvious.


I feel like we just went down this road with Tava did we not?


Yup. If it ain't broke...
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Re: Coaches Leaving/Transfer/5th Year Thread 2017

Postby Corporal Funishment on Fri Mar 24, 2017 9:35 am

I love how people think Sengfelder to BC is destined because he's white and and one of the five previous grad transfers we've gotten under this staff also happened to be white. 1000%!
I look forward to being called stupid for expressing the above thought.
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Re: Coaches Leaving/Transfer/5th Year Thread 2017

Postby twballgame9 on Fri Mar 24, 2017 9:39 am

Corporal Funishment wrote:I love how people think Sengfelder to BC is destined because he's white and and one of the five previous grad transfers we've gotten under this staff also happened to be white. 1000%!


I almost Roethlisbergered myself here. Good work.
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Re: Coaches Leaving/Transfer/5th Year Thread 2017

Postby thebs19 on Fri Mar 24, 2017 10:35 am

Corporal Funishment wrote:I love how people think Sengfelder to BC is destined because he's white and and one of the five previous grad transfers we've gotten under this staff also happened to be white. 1000%!


First off, as a balding Mormon whose only game is setting up at the 3 point line and chucking, with wide game to game variation in effectiveness, Jordan Chatman is the whitest white guy to every play for BC. So its 2.

And aside from the grad transfer route, have you noticed a common thread among most of the big men we've chased/got? Far more look like Chris Sengfelder's game than, say, Malik Ondigo.

But I guess we'll see.



And to be honest, it had less do with him being white, and more to do with him being an undersized frontcourt player with mediocre effectiveness from a mid major conference, which we went all in on last year and judging by the distribution of playing time when the season was over by December, the staff never seemed to question that strategy in favor of guys like Reyes or Sagay.
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Re: Coaches Leaving/Transfer/5th Year Thread 2017

Postby DavidGordonsFoot on Fri Mar 24, 2017 11:41 am

Corporal Funishment wrote:I love how people think Sengfelder to BC is destined because he's white and and one of the five previous grad transfers we've gotten under this staff also happened to be white. 1000%!

I think it's destined because he is at Fordham, is undersized for his position and has made the A-10 All-Academic team like 8 years in a row.
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Re: Coaches Leaving/Transfer/5th Year Thread 2017

Postby MF73-Eleazar on Fri Mar 24, 2017 12:53 pm

Interest "buzz" for Sengfelder coming from Northwestern and Fairfield so far.
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Re: Coaches Leaving/Transfer/5th Year Thread 2017

Postby Corporal Funishment on Fri Mar 24, 2017 1:04 pm

Jeff Goodman‏Verified account @GoodmanESPN 24m24 minutes ago
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UConn big man Steven Enoch has asked for his release to transfer, source told ESPN.


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I think this guy's better than Marfo. We weren't as close as we were on Marfo though. Warrants two (2) emergency signs

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Re: Coaches Leaving/Transfer/5th Year Thread 2017

Postby BCSUPERFAN22 on Fri Mar 24, 2017 1:25 pm

Corporal Funishment wrote:Jeff Goodman‏Verified account @GoodmanESPN 24m24 minutes ago
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UConn big man Steven Enoch has asked for his release to transfer, source told ESPN.


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I think this guy's better than Marfo. We weren't as close as we were on Marfo though. Warrants two (2) emergency signs

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FWIW, I was told by numerous people that this kid had no business playing at Yukon when he signed (he's from Norwalk, CT orig which isn't too far from me). Enoch maybe had slightly higher offer profile out of HS, but idk that it's fair to say he is definitely a better fit that Marfo. I think yukon started recruiting him early which lead to others piling on. He signs fairly early as well which is why it may be difficult to understand who else was actually under consideration if any at the time.
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Re: Coaches Leaving/Transfer/5th Year Thread 2017

Postby DavidGordonsFoot on Fri Mar 24, 2017 1:35 pm

Corporal Funishment wrote:Jeff Goodman‏Verified account @GoodmanESPN 24m24 minutes ago
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UConn big man Steven Enoch has asked for his release to transfer, source told ESPN.


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I think this guy's better than Marfo. We weren't as close as we were on Marfo though. Warrants two (2) emergency signs

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Jimmy Mac can't afford to wait a year for guys to become eligible. He needs immediate help to save his ass.
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Re: Coaches Leaving/Transfer/5th Year Thread 2017

Postby BCSUPERFAN22 on Fri Mar 24, 2017 3:29 pm

Tweet saying BC has reached out to Nisre Zouzpua from Bryant. Has also heard from NCSU, Illinois, Mizzou, ASU and Maryland. Orig from Brockton and would have 2 years of elig after sitting out next year.
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Re: Coaches Leaving/Transfer/5th Year Thread 2017

Postby joetim99 on Fri Mar 24, 2017 4:07 pm

BCSUPERFAN22 wrote:Tweet saying BC has reached out to Nisre Zouzpua from Bryant. Has also heard from NCSU, Illinois, Mizzou, ASU and Maryland. Orig from Brockton and would have 2 years of elig after sitting out next year.

He averaged 20 pts a game as a soph this year. Shoots the three around 37%.
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Re: Coaches Leaving/Transfer/5th Year Thread 2017

Postby Onyx Blackman on Fri Mar 24, 2017 4:14 pm

Eddie Fogler's hard at work helping UMass hire the guy who bailed after two days and leading a national search for OK State that ended with them hiring one of their own assistants, who happened to play for Fogler at South Carolina.
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Re: Coaches Leaving/Transfer/5th Year Thread 2017

Postby eepstein0 on Fri Mar 24, 2017 6:39 pm

thebs19 wrote:
Corporal Funishment wrote:I love how people think Sengfelder to BC is destined because he's white and and one of the five previous grad transfers we've gotten under this staff also happened to be white. 1000%!


First off, as a balding Mormon whose only game is setting up at the 3 point line and chucking, with wide game to game variation in effectiveness, Jordan Chatman is the whitest white guy to every play for BC. So its 2.

And aside from the grad transfer route, have you noticed a common thread among most of the big men we've chased/got? Far more look like Chris Sengfelder's game than, say, Malik Ondigo.

But I guess we'll see.



And to be honest, it had less do with him being white, and more to do with him being an undersized frontcourt player with mediocre effectiveness from a mid major conference, which we went all in on last year and judging by the distribution of playing time when the season was over by December, the staff never seemed to question that strategy in favor of guys like Reyes or Sagay.


As President of the 3 and D Club, I laughed.

He did shoot 42% from 3, but it was like watching Chris Davis hit a baseball.
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Re: Coaches Leaving/Transfer/5th Year Thread 2017

Postby eepstein0 on Fri Mar 24, 2017 6:40 pm

Onyx Blackman wrote:Eddie Fogler's hard at work helping UMass hire the guy who bailed after two days and leading a national search for OK State that ended with them hiring one of their own assistants, who happened to play for Fogler at South Carolina.


I am also President, VP and Treasurer of the Eddie Fogler is An Idiot Club
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Re: Coaches Leaving/Transfer/5th Year Thread 2017

Postby Corporal Funishment on Fri Mar 24, 2017 8:06 pm

eepstein0 wrote:
Onyx Blackman wrote:Eddie Fogler's hard at work helping UMass hire the guy who bailed after two days and leading a national search for OK State that ended with them hiring one of their own assistants, who happened to play for Fogler at South Carolina.


I am also President, VP and Treasurer of the Eddie Fogler is An Idiot Club


The Eddie Fogler is An Idiot Club's Board of Directors are displaying a clear dereliction of their corporate governance responsibilities if they're allowing a single person to hold that many roles
I look forward to being called stupid for expressing the above thought.
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Re: Coaches Leaving/Transfer/5th Year Thread 2017

Postby Dick Rosenthal on Sat Mar 25, 2017 7:58 am

eepstein0 wrote:
BCMurt09 wrote:Rumors that today will be JT3s final day of employment at Georgetown University.

And Tommy Amaker's Wikipedia page currently says "Head Coach of Georgetown"


I had season tickets for multiple years at Georgetown.

JTIII is horrendous at coaching basketball. His recruiting was decent though.


John Thompson Sr. was terrible at coaching the game of basketball, but was awesome at recruiting. The John Thompson-Dean Smith and John Thompson-Guy Lewis match ups in the NCAA Finals were some of the most inept coaching around some of the most awesome collections of talent ever assembled.

And while Georgetown is to be commended for firing a guy who has done better by every measurable than any coach we have had not named Gary Williams or Tom Davis, let alone the moron currently burying the program below the Earth's mantle, I do look forward to them fucking this up by hiring Patrick Ewing--who is purported to be the clubhouse leader in an effort to placate JT Sr and the powerful faction he commands.
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Re: Coaches Leaving/Transfer/5th Year Thread 2017

Postby eepstein0 on Sat Mar 25, 2017 9:54 am

Corporal Funishment wrote:
eepstein0 wrote:
Onyx Blackman wrote:Eddie Fogler's hard at work helping UMass hire the guy who bailed after two days and leading a national search for OK State that ended with them hiring one of their own assistants, who happened to play for Fogler at South Carolina.


I am also President, VP and Treasurer of the Eddie Fogler is An Idiot Club


The Eddie Fogler is An Idiot Club's Board of Directors are displaying a clear dereliction of their corporate governance responsibilities if they're allowing a single person to hold that many roles


Yea I think I am the Board of Directors also
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Re: Coaches Leaving/Transfer/5th Year Thread 2017

Postby HJS on Sat Mar 25, 2017 3:37 pm

eepstein0 wrote:
Corporal Funishment wrote:
eepstein0 wrote:
Onyx Blackman wrote:Eddie Fogler's hard at work helping UMass hire the guy who bailed after two days and leading a national search for OK State that ended with them hiring one of their own assistants, who happened to play for Fogler at South Carolina.


I am also President, VP and Treasurer of the Eddie Fogler is An Idiot Club


The Eddie Fogler is An Idiot Club's Board of Directors are displaying a clear dereliction of their corporate governance responsibilities if they're allowing a single person to hold that many roles


Yea I think I am the Board of Directors also

This is probably the best explanation as to how Eddie Fogler continues to be hired by colleges.
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Re: Coaches Leaving/Transfer/5th Year Thread 2017

Postby Logitano on Mon Mar 27, 2017 9:00 am

HJS wrote:
eepstein0 wrote:
Corporal Funishment wrote:
eepstein0 wrote:
Onyx Blackman wrote:Eddie Fogler's hard at work helping UMass hire the guy who bailed after two days and leading a national search for OK State that ended with them hiring one of their own assistants, who happened to play for Fogler at South Carolina.


I am also President, VP and Treasurer of the Eddie Fogler is An Idiot Club


The Eddie Fogler is An Idiot Club's Board of Directors are displaying a clear dereliction of their corporate governance responsibilities if they're allowing a single person to hold that many roles


Yea I think I am the Board of Directors also

This is probably the best explanation as to how Eddie Fogler continues to be hired by colleges.


Although it is old news that Miami of Ohio fired John Cooper (a bates hire. People destroying Bates on their message board) he is a Fogler guy. Fogler got him placed at TN State and then at Miami of Ohio. He had been an assistant to Fogler at South Carolina. Has Fogler ever made a good placement? Is this the biggest scam in coaching searches? :ace
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Re: Coaches Leaving/Transfer/5th Year Thread 2017

Postby TobaccoRoadEagle on Mon Mar 27, 2017 9:12 am

Logitano wrote: ... Has Fogler ever made a good placement? Is this the biggest scam in coaching searches? :ace

frank martin at the cocks looks like a pretty good placement right now

other than that, frank martin at k state was so-so and bryce drew did well at vandy this year and after that... not so much.
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Re: Coaches Leaving/Transfer/5th Year Thread 2017

Postby HJS on Mon Mar 27, 2017 6:15 pm

TobaccoRoadEagle wrote:
Logitano wrote: ... Has Fogler ever made a good placement? Is this the biggest scam in coaching searches? :ace

frank martin at the cocks looks like a pretty good placement right now

other than that, frank martin at k state was so-so and bryce drew did well at vandy this year and after that... not so much.

This is fair and brings up a good point. Frank Martin to The Cocks is an excellent example on how you use Fogler. Cocks identified Martin. And Fogler worked behind the scenes to determine interest and what it would take to get done. Since he was at K-State, this was all handled quietly. You outsource for the surreptitious interest phase. You don't outsource the whole effing process. When the search firm is handing you names, then it is fucked and you are toast if you hire any of them.
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Re: Coaches Leaving/Transfer/5th Year Thread 2017

Postby HJS on Fri Mar 31, 2017 9:14 am

Onyx Blackman wrote:Eddie Fogler's hard at work helping UMass hire the guy who bailed after two days and leading a national search for OK State that ended with them hiring one of their own assistants, who happened to play for Fogler at South Carolina.

Fogler (and UMass) recovered very nicely. Mike McCall is a very good up-and-coming young coach. He may not become the next Calipari, but is the type of bold move I wish BC was capable of making.
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