2016-17 BC Basketball Thread

[ILikeBC]

To be fair, this team played its first real game together. We have an easy non-conference schedule to figure it out.


BC got called for infinity fouls tonight and didn't get much to the line themselves. Scored 80, which is great.


Give them a few non-conference games. If we don't see growth, we can give up.

[EagleDave]

This team will be fortunate to do better than 1-17 in the ACC this year and I said that before they actually needed to make shots late to turn away mighty Stonehill.

Folks all hot & bothered over Graves need to remember that his high school team would have given BC a serious run for its money last year (Bam Adebayo, now at Kentucky, was also on it). He's not going to be an All-ACC type guy as a freshman playing with a legitimately less talented team and nobody else on this team will be at that level either.

They're going 10-20ish. Settle in and enjoy it and pray to whoever you pray to that it'll be bad enough to fire this shit sack of a coach after it's over.

[eepstein0]

These exhibition games are frankly completely irrelevant.

[thebs19]

These exhibition games are frankly completely irrelevant.

I mean, obviously as it doesnt "count." But it's not like we played out walkons or bench guys too much. Sagay didn't even see the floor, Reyes only because of foul trouble, etc. this had the look of the real rotation and they prevailed basically because Jerome Robinson is really good (we knew that) and Mo Jeffers is an oversized 5 against d2 (and will be undersized the rest of the season).

For all the talk of offense, that was really it.

I think the greater issue is they have struggled against these d2 exhibition opponents a lot recently, ,coincidentally (or not so much) while being one of the worst d1 major programs. So for any hope for the latter to be improving, eliminating the former would be a nice little sign. As it was, not so much.

[eagle9903]

These exhibition games are frankly completely irrelevant.

I mean, obviously as it doesnt "count." But it's not like we played out walkons or bench guys too much. Sagay didn't even see the floor, Reyes only because of foul trouble, etc. this had the look of the real rotation and they prevailed basically because Jerome Robinson is really good (we knew that) and Mo Jeffers is an oversized 5 against d2 (and will be undersized the rest of the season).

For all the talk of offense, that was really it.

I think the greater issue is they have struggled against these d2 exhibition opponents a lot recently, ,coincidentally (or not so much) while being one of the worst d1 major programs. So for any hope for the latter to be improving, eliminating the former would be a nice little sign. As it was, not so much.

I read Reyes played well early and then didn't play anymore. Might have gotten hurt.

[TobaccoRoadEagle]

has graves won the acc rookie of the year yet? from all the off-season talk i figured that would have happened already

[eepstein0]

These exhibition games are frankly completely irrelevant.

I mean, obviously as it doesnt "count." But it's not like we played out walkons or bench guys too much. Sagay didn't even see the floor, Reyes only because of foul trouble, etc. this had the look of the real rotation and they prevailed basically because Jerome Robinson is really good (we knew that) and Mo Jeffers is an oversized 5 against d2 (and will be undersized the rest of the season).

For all the talk of offense, that was really it.

I think the greater issue is they have struggled against these d2 exhibition opponents a lot recently, ,coincidentally (or not so much) while being one of the worst d1 major programs. So for any hope for the latter to be improving, eliminating the former would be a nice little sign. As it was, not so much.

These D2 teams stand around and launch 3s (Stonehill had like 30 of them). A bunch go in and it makes the games look close.

Sagay is a project, been saying that ever since he signed.

[Corporal Funishment]

Funishment says

BC has a 1-2 possession lead essentially the whole game, I think they expanded it to 9 once, but never got higher than that. Offensively, there was some familiar weavery before the heavery and some new variations of weavery before the heavery that were more based on curling around screens and flashing to the basket. I did notice a concerted effort to get the ball up the floor quickly but it didn't directly lead to a lot of transition points. Defensively, as has been mentioned the problem was way way too much cheap fouling, which seems to be the problem every year in these exhibition games, but it's also been a problem in real games so you can't dismiss it. With about 5 minutes left we essentially changed the offense to "Robinson drives every time" as probably 12 of the last 15 possessions were some kind of layup or floater attempt. This was actually pretty successful, but it was eerily reminiscent of last year's scrimmage where Eli Carter won the game singlehandedly at the end which did not prove to be a sustainable strategy...

Robinson: looked fine
Jeffers: looked better than you'd expect for a guy who averaged 4 points a game at Delaware, had some weight on the guys on the other team but also looked fairly nimble finishing around the hoop
Turner: Different year same AJ Turner
Tava: picked up 2 fouls really quickly so sat a lot first half, had a couple good plays but you could easily forget he was on the court for long stretches, against some ACC teams there's going to be no place to hide him on defense
Bowman/Graves: combining these 2 because the bottom line is the same. Bowman started the game, Graves started the second half, may have been because Bowman had 3 fouls or may have been lineup tinkering. Both were good at pushing the ball up the court fast, but both were far too unassertive in the half court. I don't think either one ever took a defender off the dribble all game. Maybe freshman nerves but really need one of them to do more than just initiate the offense/swing the ball around...pay attention for improvement here as we go. Bowman played the first half with a long-sleeve shirt under his jersey which was a new one for me.
Popovic: fumbled the ball a couple times and didn't do all that much but I think there's a good player hidden somewhere in there
Reyes: played 1 shift when other guys were in foul trouble, scored I think 3 baskets which were all bunnies but still. Also committed 2 quick fouls and back to the bench.
Chatman: Hit 2 threes, didn't stand out outside of that good or bad
Owens: Same guy as always, based on rotations may be seeing less playing time this year
Meznieks: I don't think he was even at the game
Sagay: didn't play, only non-walkon to do so. Either in the Sammy Barnes Thompkins suspension club or not part of the rotation
There's one new walkon...think another Pornopiglia...not on the roster site so a mystery man

[thebs19]

These exhibition games are frankly completely irrelevant.

I mean, obviously as it doesnt "count." But it's not like we played out walkons or bench guys too much. Sagay didn't even see the floor, Reyes only because of foul trouble, etc. this had the look of the real rotation and they prevailed basically because Jerome Robinson is really good (we knew that) and Mo Jeffers is an oversized 5 against d2 (and will be undersized the rest of the season).

For all the talk of offense, that was really it.

I think the greater issue is they have struggled against these d2 exhibition opponents a lot recently, ,coincidentally (or not so much) while being one of the worst d1 major programs. So for any hope for the latter to be improving, eliminating the former would be a nice little sign. As it was, not so much.

These D2 teams stand around and launch 3s (Stonehill had like 30 of them). A bunch go in and it makes the games look close.

Sagay is a project, been saying that ever since he signed.

Right, agreed, which is sort of my point. Its one thing if we got our "projects" or new guys experience and a team of "scrappy" (read: white) D2 kids make that contest closer than it should be. But JC coached to win with his rotation, it appears (again, maybe Jordan Chatman playing like 25 minutes isn't going to last - hopefully - but thats the sort of stuff you would expect he did to make sure there was no embarrassing loss with a bunch of out of sync frosh playing too much for the first time). On the 3's, well, sure - they also got to the line twice as much as we did (even with them hacking in the last 2 minutes or so) which helped them stay in the game, which is really scary when you think about (1) if we can't stop Stonehill from going to the hoop without hacking, whats that mean against a team that doesn't look like this: http://stonehillskyhawks.com/sports/mbk ... width=600; and (2) all of this talk of our uptempto "attack" based offense you;d think we'd be getting to the line at will if the complaint is the refs were too whistle-friendly.

If Stonehill actually makes its free throws they're certainly up at the half and probably winning most of the 2nd half, if you want to talk about the issue of d2 schools presenting problems by shooting too much.


Not to always go back to the Bonnies vs. BC well, but I remember last year around this time listening to BC struggle to beat Bentley, then a day later the Bonnies played Mansfield in their tuneup and won by 60, 108-48. It'd be nice to see our ACC athletes beat a team of kids not good enough to play D1 and not smart enough to get into D3 schools by an appropriate margin like that.

Whatever though. We'll see where we're at in December.

[thebs19]

These exhibition games are frankly completely irrelevant.

I mean, obviously as it doesnt "count." But it's not like we played out walkons or bench guys too much. Sagay didn't even see the floor, Reyes only because of foul trouble, etc. this had the look of the real rotation and they prevailed basically because Jerome Robinson is really good (we knew that) and Mo Jeffers is an oversized 5 against d2 (and will be undersized the rest of the season).

For all the talk of offense, that was really it.

I think the greater issue is they have struggled against these d2 exhibition opponents a lot recently, ,coincidentally (or not so much) while being one of the worst d1 major programs. So for any hope for the latter to be improving, eliminating the former would be a nice little sign. As it was, not so much.

I read Reyes played well early and then didn't play anymore. Might have gotten hurt.

No, it was (from the looks of it) a shift based on necessity based on Tava fouls, Popovic's turnovers and Jeffers playing a long shift. Picked up 2 fouls in 5 mins and that was that. Probably couldn't take Jeffers off the court in the 2nd half given where the game was at.

[angrychicken]

50pR33m 5d0o4

[TobaccoRoadEagle]

so basically, what the guy from thebes is saying...

[angrychicken]

so basically, what the guy from thebes is saying...

yes

[twballgame9]

You can't tell shit from these idiotic exhibition games, but did anyone expect them to be good? They have two freshman PGs, they plugged holes with 5th year guys that didn't do much at small schools, and their best players are sophomores. I'm just looking for solid upward trajectory and a sign that Bowman/Graves can play.

[twballgame9]

I will say it will disappointing if Turner doesn't make the traditional leap this season. I expected good things from he and Robinson on the wings, if nothing else.

[TobaccoRoadEagle]

You can't tell shit from these idiotic exhibition games, but did anyone expect them to be good? They have two freshman PGs, they plugged holes with 5th year guys that didn't do much at small schools, and their best players are sophomores. I'm just looking for solid upward trajectory and a sign that Bowman/Graves can play.

so, youth and inexperience...

is t.s. slaughter writing for you now too?

[twballgame9]

You can't tell shit from these idiotic exhibition games, but did anyone expect them to be good? They have two freshman PGs, they plugged holes with 5th year guys that didn't do much at small schools, and their best players are sophomores. I'm just looking for solid upward trajectory and a sign that Bowman/Graves can play.

so, youth and inexperience...

is t.s. slaughter writing for you now too?

It's not year 4.

[DavidGordonsFoot]

Funishment says

BC has a 1-2 possession lead essentially the whole game, I think they expanded it to 9 once, but never got higher than that. Offensively, there was some familiar weavery before the heavery and some new variations of weavery before the heavery that were more based on curling around screens and flashing to the basket. I did notice a concerted effort to get the ball up the floor quickly but it didn't directly lead to a lot of transition points. Defensively, as has been mentioned the problem was way way too much cheap fouling, which seems to be the problem every year in these exhibition games, but it's also been a problem in real games so you can't dismiss it. With about 5 minutes left we essentially changed the offense to "Robinson drives every time" as probably 12 of the last 15 possessions were some kind of layup or floater attempt. This was actually pretty successful, but it was eerily reminiscent of last year's scrimmage where Eli Carter won the game singlehandedly at the end which did not prove to be a sustainable strategy...

Robinson: looked fine
Jeffers: looked better than you'd expect for a guy who averaged 4 points a game at Delaware, had some weight on the guys on the other team but also looked fairly nimble finishing around the hoop
Turner: Different year same AJ Turner
Tava: picked up 2 fouls really quickly so sat a lot first half, had a couple good plays but you could easily forget he was on the court for long stretches, against some ACC teams there's going to be no place to hide him on defense
Bowman/Graves: combining these 2 because the bottom line is the same. Bowman started the game, Graves started the second half, may have been because Bowman had 3 fouls or may have been lineup tinkering. Both were good at pushing the ball up the court fast, but both were far too unassertive in the half court. I don't think either one ever took a defender off the dribble all game. Maybe freshman nerves but really need one of them to do more than just initiate the offense/swing the ball around...pay attention for improvement here as we go. Bowman played the first half with a long-sleeve shirt under his jersey which was a new one for me.
Popovic: fumbled the ball a couple times and didn't do all that much but I think there's a good player hidden somewhere in there
Reyes: played 1 shift when other guys were in foul trouble, scored I think 3 baskets which were all bunnies but still. Also committed 2 quick fouls and back to the bench.
Chatman: Hit 2 threes, didn't stand out outside of that good or bad
Owens: Same guy as always, based on rotations may be seeing less playing time this year
Meznieks: I don't think he was even at the game
Sagay: didn't play, only non-walkon to do so. Either in the Sammy Barnes Thompkins suspension club or not part of the rotation
There's one new walkon...think another Pornopiglia...not on the roster site so a mystery man

Like Teddy said, you shouldn't have bothered.

[Corporal Funishment]

Funishment says

BC has a 1-2 possession lead essentially the whole game, I think they expanded it to 9 once, but never got higher than that. Offensively, there was some familiar weavery before the heavery and some new variations of weavery before the heavery that were more based on curling around screens and flashing to the basket. I did notice a concerted effort to get the ball up the floor quickly but it didn't directly lead to a lot of transition points. Defensively, as has been mentioned the problem was way way too much cheap fouling, which seems to be the problem every year in these exhibition games, but it's also been a problem in real games so you can't dismiss it. With about 5 minutes left we essentially changed the offense to "Robinson drives every time" as probably 12 of the last 15 possessions were some kind of layup or floater attempt. This was actually pretty successful, but it was eerily reminiscent of last year's scrimmage where Eli Carter won the game singlehandedly at the end which did not prove to be a sustainable strategy...

Robinson: looked fine
Jeffers: looked better than you'd expect for a guy who averaged 4 points a game at Delaware, had some weight on the guys on the other team but also looked fairly nimble finishing around the hoop
Turner: Different year same AJ Turner
Tava: picked up 2 fouls really quickly so sat a lot first half, had a couple good plays but you could easily forget he was on the court for long stretches, against some ACC teams there's going to be no place to hide him on defense
Bowman/Graves: combining these 2 because the bottom line is the same. Bowman started the game, Graves started the second half, may have been because Bowman had 3 fouls or may have been lineup tinkering. Both were good at pushing the ball up the court fast, but both were far too unassertive in the half court. I don't think either one ever took a defender off the dribble all game. Maybe freshman nerves but really need one of them to do more than just initiate the offense/swing the ball around...pay attention for improvement here as we go. Bowman played the first half with a long-sleeve shirt under his jersey which was a new one for me.
Popovic: fumbled the ball a couple times and didn't do all that much but I think there's a good player hidden somewhere in there
Reyes: played 1 shift when other guys were in foul trouble, scored I think 3 baskets which were all bunnies but still. Also committed 2 quick fouls and back to the bench.
Chatman: Hit 2 threes, didn't stand out outside of that good or bad
Owens: Same guy as always, based on rotations may be seeing less playing time this year
Meznieks: I don't think he was even at the game
Sagay: didn't play, only non-walkon to do so. Either in the Sammy Barnes Thompkins suspension club or not part of the rotation
There's one new walkon...think another Pornopiglia...not on the roster site so a mystery man

Like Teddy said, you shouldn't have bothered.

I'm not really soliciting feedback from tranny porn enthusiasts at this time

[eagle9903]

Funishment says

BC has a 1-2 possession lead essentially the whole game, I think they expanded it to 9 once, but never got higher than that. Offensively, there was some familiar weavery before the heavery and some new variations of weavery before the heavery that were more based on curling around screens and flashing to the basket. I did notice a concerted effort to get the ball up the floor quickly but it didn't directly lead to a lot of transition points. Defensively, as has been mentioned the problem was way way too much cheap fouling, which seems to be the problem every year in these exhibition games, but it's also been a problem in real games so you can't dismiss it. With about 5 minutes left we essentially changed the offense to "Robinson drives every time" as probably 12 of the last 15 possessions were some kind of layup or floater attempt. This was actually pretty successful, but it was eerily reminiscent of last year's scrimmage where Eli Carter won the game singlehandedly at the end which did not prove to be a sustainable strategy...

Robinson: looked fine
Jeffers: looked better than you'd expect for a guy who averaged 4 points a game at Delaware, had some weight on the guys on the other team but also looked fairly nimble finishing around the hoop
Turner: Different year same AJ Turner
Tava: picked up 2 fouls really quickly so sat a lot first half, had a couple good plays but you could easily forget he was on the court for long stretches, against some ACC teams there's going to be no place to hide him on defense
Bowman/Graves: combining these 2 because the bottom line is the same. Bowman started the game, Graves started the second half, may have been because Bowman had 3 fouls or may have been lineup tinkering. Both were good at pushing the ball up the court fast, but both were far too unassertive in the half court. I don't think either one ever took a defender off the dribble all game. Maybe freshman nerves but really need one of them to do more than just initiate the offense/swing the ball around...pay attention for improvement here as we go. Bowman played the first half with a long-sleeve shirt under his jersey which was a new one for me.
Popovic: fumbled the ball a couple times and didn't do all that much but I think there's a good player hidden somewhere in there
Reyes: played 1 shift when other guys were in foul trouble, scored I think 3 baskets which were all bunnies but still. Also committed 2 quick fouls and back to the bench.
Chatman: Hit 2 threes, didn't stand out outside of that good or bad
Owens: Same guy as always, based on rotations may be seeing less playing time this year
Meznieks: I don't think he was even at the game
Sagay: didn't play, only non-walkon to do so. Either in the Sammy Barnes Thompkins suspension club or not part of the rotation
There's one new walkon...think another Pornopiglia...not on the roster site so a mystery man

Like Teddy said, you shouldn't have bothered.

I'm not really soliciting feedback from tranny porn enthusiasts at this time

That's our joke doucher, you aren't a good enough poster to use it. You may, however, go talk to corners about Father Leahy retiring.

[TobaccoRoadEagle]

his post angered you so much you used the apostrophe correctly on "that's"

[thebs19]

I will say it will disappointing if Turner doesn't make the traditional leap this season. I expected good things from he and Robinson on the wings, if nothing else.

There are a lot of people a heck of a lot smarter than I am who think he is/was good. At some point he has to assert himself out there you would think, though, as he is someone who you can clearly forget is even in the game for long stretches.

[Corporal Funishment]

[eagle9903]

his post angered you so much you used the apostrophe correctly on "that's"

stay out of my grammar pignoccio, your a salt queen and a giant flaming tool

[twballgame9]

With the caveat that glacier is a terrible poster, I laughed at the fortune cookie

[eagle9903]

With the caveat that glacier is a terrible poster, I laughed at the fortune cookie

begs the question whether he had those on standby or put them together in five minutes. Im not sure which seems more likely.

[TobaccoRoadEagle]

With the caveat that glacier is a terrible poster, I laughed at the fortune cookie

begs the question whether he had those on standby or put them together in five minutes. Im not sure which seems more likely.

standby. he's as obsessed with you as hansen is with gloryholes

[Corporal Funishment]

I happened to stumble upon these images and many more like them across a variety of places while perusing completely unrelated topics on the internet. I saved the images so that 9903 could appreciate how widespread the disgust with his posting style is.

Any contention I "put together" these images is false

[TobaccoRoadEagle]

whatever you say, mark cuban

[eagle9903]

I happened to stumble upon these images and many more like them across a variety of places while perusing completely unrelated topics on the internet. I saved the images so that 9903 could appreciate how widespread the disgust with his posting style is.

Any contention I "put together" these images is false

your weird