ATLeagle {l Wrote}:A lot of Hohler's hit pieces were done with the help of the BC beat writer at the time, but they usually don't put the beat writer's name on it. That way when the beat writer goes back to his BC sources, he can still be the good guy.
If LDE knows it is coming, my guess is that Christian is serving as a source and throwing people under the bus. If he does do that, he's not very smart. Even if JC thinks Bates is a moron or that the school sucks, a lengthy Globe piece isn't going to change that or help him. If anything one of the first things a new AD is going to do is fire JC. JC's best friend at a Power 5 school is Bates. If JC can't win at BC he's never getting another Power 5 job.
ATLeagle {l Wrote}:A lot of Hohler's hit pieces were done with the help of the BC beat writer at the time, but they usually don't put the beat writer's name on it. That way when the beat writer goes back to his BC sources, he can still be the good guy.
If LDE knows it is coming, my guess is that Christian is serving as a source and throwing people under the bus. If he does do that, he's not very smart. Even if JC thinks Bates is a moron or that the school sucks, a lengthy Globe piece isn't going to change that or help him. If anything one of the first things a new AD is going to do is fire JC. JC's best friend at a Power 5 school is Bates. If JC can't win at BC he's never getting another Power 5 job.
DavidGordonsFoot {l Wrote}:ATLeagle {l Wrote}:A lot of Hohler's hit pieces were done with the help of the BC beat writer at the time, but they usually don't put the beat writer's name on it. That way when the beat writer goes back to his BC sources, he can still be the good guy.
If LDE knows it is coming, my guess is that Christian is serving as a source and throwing people under the bus. If he does do that, he's not very smart. Even if JC thinks Bates is a moron or that the school sucks, a lengthy Globe piece isn't going to change that or help him. If anything one of the first things a new AD is going to do is fire JC. JC's best friend at a Power 5 school is Bates. If JC can't win at BC he's never getting another Power 5 job.
It would be career suicide for JC, but still kind of fun to watch.
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:I can't possibly imagine that JC would be stupid enough to source this or to tell LDE, who he knows would go blab it on here.
eepstein0 {l Wrote}:twballgame9 {l Wrote}:I can't possibly imagine that JC would be stupid enough to source this or to tell LDE, who he knows would go blab it on here.
He probably views as it as his last resort. If he can paint BC in a negative light maybe he can spin this disaster as not his fault.
This basketball program is just a total career killer
commavegarage {l Wrote}:^^ astute point by ATL btw - and one i hadnt thought about. If LDE is saying it, it means Christian knows its coming, which means he was the one who leaked it.
It'll be very interesting to see what comes out.
eepstein0 {l Wrote}:DavidGordonsFoot {l Wrote}:ATLeagle {l Wrote}:A lot of Hohler's hit pieces were done with the help of the BC beat writer at the time, but they usually don't put the beat writer's name on it. That way when the beat writer goes back to his BC sources, he can still be the good guy.
If LDE knows it is coming, my guess is that Christian is serving as a source and throwing people under the bus. If he does do that, he's not very smart. Even if JC thinks Bates is a moron or that the school sucks, a lengthy Globe piece isn't going to change that or help him. If anything one of the first things a new AD is going to do is fire JC. JC's best friend at a Power 5 school is Bates. If JC can't win at BC he's never getting another Power 5 job.
It would be career suicide for JC, but still kind of fun to watch.
I 100% think JC and Daz are the sources, but it won't say that in the article. They probably feel as if they don't have the tools to succeed.
This stuff sucks, but BC getting embarrassed in as many places as possible is the only way things are changing.
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:eepstein0 {l Wrote}:twballgame9 {l Wrote}:I can't possibly imagine that JC would be stupid enough to source this or to tell LDE, who he knows would go blab it on here.
He probably views as it as his last resort. If he can paint BC in a negative light maybe he can spin this disaster as not his fault.
This basketball program is just a total career killer
His only chance to survive this was to hope he didn't get fired (which he wasn't going to be) and then show up next year and actually do his job. Torching the program on the way out is a sure-fire way to be the head assistant at St. Dominick High for the next 20 years
eepstein0 {l Wrote}:twballgame9 {l Wrote}:eepstein0 {l Wrote}:twballgame9 {l Wrote}:I can't possibly imagine that JC would be stupid enough to source this or to tell LDE, who he knows would go blab it on here.
He probably views as it as his last resort. If he can paint BC in a negative light maybe he can spin this disaster as not his fault.
This basketball program is just a total career killer
His only chance to survive this was to hope he didn't get fired (which he wasn't going to be) and then show up next year and actually do his job. Torching the program on the way out is a sure-fire way to be the head assistant at St. Dominick High for the next 20 years
What's doing his job next year?
eepstein0 {l Wrote}:DavidGordonsFoot {l Wrote}:ATLeagle {l Wrote}:A lot of Hohler's hit pieces were done with the help of the BC beat writer at the time, but they usually don't put the beat writer's name on it. That way when the beat writer goes back to his BC sources, he can still be the good guy.
If LDE knows it is coming, my guess is that Christian is serving as a source and throwing people under the bus. If he does do that, he's not very smart. Even if JC thinks Bates is a moron or that the school sucks, a lengthy Globe piece isn't going to change that or help him. If anything one of the first things a new AD is going to do is fire JC. JC's best friend at a Power 5 school is Bates. If JC can't win at BC he's never getting another Power 5 job.
It would be career suicide for JC, but still kind of fun to watch.
I 100% think JC and Daz are the sources, but it won't say that in the article. They probably feel as if they don't have the tools to succeed.
This stuff sucks, but BC getting embarrassed in as many places as possible is the only way things are changing.
angrychicken {l Wrote}:I have a feeling that this Globe article will disappoint me, and not in the way that the Globe was hoping to disappoint me.
TobaccoRoadEagle {l Wrote}:angrychicken {l Wrote}:I have a feeling that this Globe article will disappoint me, and not in the way that the Globe was hoping to disappoint me.
the rest of the class of 1994 agrees with you
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:If its Hohler, it won't be earth shattering and it wont' have much substance.
angrychicken {l Wrote}:TobaccoRoadEagle {l Wrote}:angrychicken {l Wrote}:I have a feeling that this Globe article will disappoint me, and not in the way that the Globe was hoping to disappoint me.
the rest of the class of 1994 agrees with you
Even your girlfriend Nancy?
eepstein0 {l Wrote}:DavidGordonsFoot {l Wrote}:ATLeagle {l Wrote}:A lot of Hohler's hit pieces were done with the help of the BC beat writer at the time, but they usually don't put the beat writer's name on it. That way when the beat writer goes back to his BC sources, he can still be the good guy.
If LDE knows it is coming, my guess is that Christian is serving as a source and throwing people under the bus. If he does do that, he's not very smart. Even if JC thinks Bates is a moron or that the school sucks, a lengthy Globe piece isn't going to change that or help him. If anything one of the first things a new AD is going to do is fire JC. JC's best friend at a Power 5 school is Bates. If JC can't win at BC he's never getting another Power 5 job.
It would be career suicide for JC, but still kind of fun to watch.
This stuff sucks, but BC getting embarrassed in as many places as possible is the only way things are changing.
EagleDave {l Wrote}:eepstein0 {l Wrote}:DavidGordonsFoot {l Wrote}:ATLeagle {l Wrote}:A lot of Hohler's hit pieces were done with the help of the BC beat writer at the time, but they usually don't put the beat writer's name on it. That way when the beat writer goes back to his BC sources, he can still be the good guy.
If LDE knows it is coming, my guess is that Christian is serving as a source and throwing people under the bus. If he does do that, he's not very smart. Even if JC thinks Bates is a moron or that the school sucks, a lengthy Globe piece isn't going to change that or help him. If anything one of the first things a new AD is going to do is fire JC. JC's best friend at a Power 5 school is Bates. If JC can't win at BC he's never getting another Power 5 job.
It would be career suicide for JC, but still kind of fun to watch.
This stuff sucks, but BC getting embarrassed in as many places as possible is the only way things are changing.
This. BC deserves every bit of the humiliation it gets for the debacle the athletics department has become.
Looking forward to Bates and whatever flack BC decides to throw to the wolves standing up and trying to spin this garbage.
HJS {l Wrote}:EagleDave {l Wrote}:eepstein0 {l Wrote}:DavidGordonsFoot {l Wrote}:ATLeagle {l Wrote}:A lot of Hohler's hit pieces were done with the help of the BC beat writer at the time, but they usually don't put the beat writer's name on it. That way when the beat writer goes back to his BC sources, he can still be the good guy.
If LDE knows it is coming, my guess is that Christian is serving as a source and throwing people under the bus. If he does do that, he's not very smart. Even if JC thinks Bates is a moron or that the school sucks, a lengthy Globe piece isn't going to change that or help him. If anything one of the first things a new AD is going to do is fire JC. JC's best friend at a Power 5 school is Bates. If JC can't win at BC he's never getting another Power 5 job.
It would be career suicide for JC, but still kind of fun to watch.
This stuff sucks, but BC getting embarrassed in as many places as possible is the only way things are changing.
This. BC deserves every bit of the humiliation it gets for the debacle the athletics department has become.
Looking forward to Bates and whatever flack BC decides to throw to the wolves standing up and trying to spin this garbage.
Assume for the moment that the media shitstorm doesn't cause the ACC to give us the Temple treatment... which may becoming more and more a bigger assumption. Barring such a catastrophic development, this heightened public outrage is just about the only hope you have for folks asking questions at the BOT level. As I've said many times, Trustees don't take the gig to be criticized. And they sure as shit aren't into being embarrassed. They take the job for their resume and so they feel cool around the alums who wouldn't talk to them back in college. Case in point... marineagle (btw, look at our sports programs since he got involved).
The BOT has simply been delinquent in exercising their fiduciary duties in overseeing athletics. Perhaps, the events of the past couple of weeks will scare these pussies into asking some difficult questions: BC's commitment to sports, Bates' future, Leahy's retirement. I truly think that only a lawsuit or a Swofford threat of expulsion would cause the sea change necessary to shake the Board from its inertia, but... perhaps... there will be a few folks (it doesn't take many) to become vocal after getting shit thrown their way at the Wall Street Council Dinner.
BCMurt09 {l Wrote}:HomoJS and 22 really nail this on the head for me...what reason do we have to believe that this takedown piece will do anything to mobilize the BOT.
This will fall on the deaf ears of those who make decisions and the sun will rise on Monday. And Leahy will be President, Bates will still be AD, Daz and JC will still have jobs.
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:Nothing worse than a hack chasing a Pulitzer.
NorthEndEagle {l Wrote}:cat hair pee fire
NorthEndEagle {l Wrote}:cat hair pee fire
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