Notre Dame round 2

[2014 Eagle]

2.5 minutes in and we have dribbled the ball out of bounds twice already

[eepstein0]

Didn't take us long to suck again.

Why is running sets to get Clifford shots a good idea? Major coaching fail.

[eepstein0]

Honest to God this team wouldn't win America East this year

[jbrooks58]

The offense is bad and the refs are ass.

[eepstein0]

I like SBT.

Both centers have 3 fouls this is about to get ugly.

[2014 Eagle]

Nice to close the gap there- but man, those are not the types of shots we want to be encouraging. Some chucking there, with a little help from the backboard.

I like Diallo a lot, if he would stop taking fouls 40ft away from the basket. He could really improve his game just by playing smarter, and being able to stay on the court longer

[Hunta518]

Has there every been a school to not win a league game in football and basketball in the same season?

[eepstein0]

Nice to close the gap there- but man, those are not the types of shots we want to be encouraging. Some chucking there, with a little help from the backboard.

I like Diallo a lot, if he would stop taking fouls 40ft away from the basket. He could really improve his game just by playing smarter, and being able to stay on the court longer

A few of those fouls weren't fouls.

Chucking is really the only option.

[eepstein0]

That shot right from from Carter drives me nuts

[eepstein0]

Not bad considering the foul mess from our big men

[jbrooks58]

We don't have a chance, but nice to see the team not give up after an awful start.

[claver2010]

good lord does this team need a 4 who can play

[eepstein0]

Go back to Europe Mezinkas. You're even worse than Owens.

Turning it off you all enjoy the rest of this.

[eepstein0]

good lord does this team need a 4 who can play

They need a PG and PF beyond all else. Until they get these things they might as well forfeit.

[wildcat81]

These young freshman will improve, but the overall talent needs to get better. Today's game is about skill not so much about height.

[jbrooks58]

It's sad to see an offense this bad. It's funny to see eepstein once again single out Meznieks when there are 3 other players who have been much worse.

[2014 Eagle]

Outscored by 22 in the second half...trying to not get too down on this team, given I didn't expect them to have a chance until Clemon in late February anyways. But with they way the team just get dominated game after game, it's hard to find too much to keep me interested

[25GeraldRd]

good lord does this team need a 4 who can play

They need a PG and PF beyond all else. Until they get these things they might as well forfeit.

i started a thread about needing bigs earlier in the season. its a glaring need. i'm fine with a JROB/Graves backcourt for 17-18-19, Turner should develop at the 3, and Diallo is a serviceable 5 man currently and has the potential to develop. we have backcourt depth with SBT and Hicks and Millon. Meznieks whatever he's a bench player for forward, he's in a big time slump right now (currently an amazing 0-11 in ACC play, and 0-3 from FT in ACC play; hasn't made a shot yet in 2016) but has to be better than what he's doing right now.

will Reyes get a medical redshirt? he only appeared in 7 games and played a total of 59 minutes. less than an hours of hoops, that should be a redshirt.

we desperately need front court help. i think i read on here Sagay is envisioned to be a stretch 4 type, and we have Popovic as well, but i'd like to add to those guys. Marfo would have been perfect.

breaking down the roster as guards, wings and bigs, i see the 16-17 BC roster as:

G: JROB (SO), Graves (FR), Hicks (R-JR), SBT (SO), Millon (SO)
Wings: Turner (SO), Owens (SR), Meznieks (SO)
Bigs: Diallo (R-SO), Reyes (RS-FR?), Popovic (FR)

[eagle9903]

According to longdistanceeagle there will be a transfer 4

[eagle9903]

Outscored by 22 in the second half...trying to not get too down on this team, given I didn't expect them to have a chance until Clemon in late February anyways. But with they way the team just get dominated game after game, it's hard to find too much to keep me interested

Honestly, it's not worth watching. You can't even watch for individual development because of carter and Clifford dominating the offense.

I haven't given up on a few of the freshmen and I still have some hope that next year will be a lot better but twenty plus point losses every conference game plus the Carter show make this season unwatchable.

[eepstein0]

It's sad to see an offense this bad. It's funny to see eepstein once again single out Meznieks when there are 3 other players who have been much worse.

Mezinkas hasn't made a shot in 2016, including an air ball from the FT line. Letting Steve Vasutria go by you over and over should earn him a one way ticket back to Europe.

[eepstein0]

Outscored by 22 in the second half...trying to not get too down on this team, given I didn't expect them to have a chance until Clemon in late February anyways. But with they way the team just get dominated game after game, it's hard to find too much to keep me interested

Honestly, it's not worth watching. You can't even watch for individual development because of carter and Clifford dominating the offense.

I haven't given up on a few of the freshmen and I still have some hope that next year will be a lot better but twenty plus point losses every conference game plus the Carter show make this season unwatchable.

Your point about Clifford is more on the coaching staff. Why do you keep running plays for him? That's just awful coaching.

Some of these freshman would be better with a PG, others are completely useless.

I feel bad for Carter in a way, he's not a PG and the freshman peeing themselves on the court gives him no choice but to shoot.

I can't ever see this group of players being competitive in the ACC, this is basically Steve Donahue 2.0. Maybe getting away from the completely useless upperclassmen will help.

[eepstein0]

good lord does this team need a 4 who can play

They need a PG and PF beyond all else. Until they get these things they might as well forfeit.

i started a thread about needing bigs earlier in the season. its a glaring need. i'm fine with a JROB/Graves backcourt for 17-18-19, Turner should develop at the 3, and Diallo is a serviceable 5 man currently and has the potential to develop. we have backcourt depth with SBT and Hicks and Millon. Meznieks whatever he's a bench player for forward, he's in a big time slump right now (currently an amazing 0-11 in ACC play, and 0-3 from FT in ACC play; hasn't made a shot yet in 2016) but has to be better than what he's doing right now.

will Reyes get a medical redshirt? he only appeared in 7 games and played a total of 59 minutes. less than an hours of hoops, that should be a redshirt.

we desperately need front court help. i think i read on here Sagay is envisioned to be a stretch 4 type, and we have Popovic as well, but i'd like to add to those guys. Marfo would have been perfect.

breaking down the roster as guards, wings and bigs, i see the 16-17 BC roster as:

G: JROB (SO), Graves (FR), Hicks (R-JR), SBT (SO), Millon (SO)
Wings: Turner (SO), Owens (SR), Meznieks (SO)
Bigs: Diallo (R-SO), Reyes (RS-FR?), Popovic (FR)

The team you just listed goes 5-25, 0-18 in 2016-17. If you all think this is bad, you're going to love that collection of players.

[MattTheEagle]

I understand the ACC is stronger now than four years ago but even Donahue's second year team (which was even younger) would not consistently lose this badly. The problem is JC not landing a true PG for 2015 and no PF on this roster.

[25GeraldRd]

I understand the ACC is stronger now than four years ago but even Donahue's second year team (which was even younger) would not consistently lose this badly. The problem is JC not landing a true PG for 2015 and no PF on this roster.

is Graves not a PG?

how can Christian be worse than Donahue, i didn't think that was possible. this is a complete nightmare.

[eepstein0]

I understand the ACC is stronger now than four years ago but even Donahue's second year team (which was even younger) would not consistently lose this badly. The problem is JC not landing a true PG for 2015 and no PF on this roster.

is Graves not a PG?

how can Christian be worse than Donahue, i didn't think that was possible. this is a complete nightmare.

Graves is a PG and will fix that part of the mess. I am extremely skeptical of this unicorn PF coming next year after JC steers this team to 0-18.

I'm working on the pine tree...no promises there.

[eagle9903]

I understand the ACC is stronger now than four years ago but even Donahue's second year team (which was even younger) would not consistently lose this badly. The problem is JC not landing a true PG for 2015 and no PF on this roster.

is Graves not a PG?

how can Christian be worse than Donahue, i didn't think that was possible. this is a complete nightmare.

Graves is a PG and will fix that part of the mess. I am extremely skeptical of this unicorn PF coming next year after JC steers this team to 0-18.

I'm working on the pine tree...no promises there.

If they had like Fordham or delawares PF it would go a long way if they fix the pg, it doesn't have to be a double double guy.

[jbrooks58]

It's sad to see an offense this bad. It's funny to see eepstein once again single out Meznieks when there are 3 other players who have been much worse.

Mezinkas hasn't made a shot in 2016, including an air ball from the FT line. Letting Steve Vasutria go by you over and over should earn him a one way ticket back to Europe.

So what he hasn't made a shot in 2016? You act like who shoots alot. When you apply the context of 0-11 it doesn't seem bad. Carter has missed more than that in one game. Go look at the stat sheet from this game as well as the performance by the other freshman. If you still think Meznieks played worse than JROB, Owens, Hicks, and Clifford then you are blind.

[bobcarrington]

So what he hasn't made a shot in 2016? You act like who shoots alot. When you apply the context of 0-11 it doesn't seem bad. Carter has missed more than that in one game. Go look at the stat sheet from this game as well as the performance by the other freshman. If you still think Meznieks played worse than JROB, Owens, Hicks, and Clifford then you are blind.

I'm not taking sides on the overall Meznieks argument, but chime in only to disagree (strongly) that Clifford is one of those players who's been worse. The big guy was useless over the past couple of seasons and I was at the time as critical of him as anyone else. But he's played much better this year than could have been expected. Given Diallo's inability to play even ten minutes without fouling out and BC's overall lack of size, there's a legit argument to be made that Clifford's been the second most important guy on the court most of this year -- admittedly faint praise given how much the team sucks.

[eepstein0]

It's sad to see an offense this bad. It's funny to see eepstein once again single out Meznieks when there are 3 other players who have been much worse.

Mezinkas hasn't made a shot in 2016, including an air ball from the FT line. Letting Steve Vasutria go by you over and over should earn him a one way ticket back to Europe.

So what he hasn't made a shot in 2016? You act like who shoots alot. When you apply the context of 0-11 it doesn't seem bad. Carter has missed more than that in one game. Go look at the stat sheet from this game as well as the performance by the other freshman. If you still think Meznieks played worse than JROB, Owens, Hicks, and Clifford then you are blind.

They were and are all awful. We're trying to identify the shortest midget here which isn't a worthwhile discussion.