eagle33 {l Wrote}:Freshmen or not they should be playing better as a team at this point of the season and they're not. They have shown zero improvement as a team and it's not fun to watch.
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:They are freshmen.
25GeraldRd {l Wrote}:twballgame9 {l Wrote}:You people are stupid. Epic stupid. And I don't even like the coach
i'm not sure i understand where you come out on all of this. you don't like Jimbo and think he shouldn't be playing Clifford and Eli as much (or at least featuring them as much). you are aware of the fact that the talent level is woeful. but because you were aware of this coming into the season you expected things to be this bad - like going winless in the ACC and not even being close to maybe having a shot at winning ONE CONFERENCE GAME with 5 minutes to play in any game? i don't really follow.
fact or fiction - this crop of freshmen plus the guys that come in next year will make an NCAA tournament in their time here?
fact or fiction - the Ryan Anderson & Co. freshmen class was better or worse than the JROB & Co. group we have this year?
how many more years do you give Christian?
Bender {l Wrote}:I would definitely say fact for the second question, Anderson, Clifford and Heckmann were better as freshmen than Robinson, Milon, SBT, Turner, and Diallo. And there's a good chance that the Hanlan and Rahon were better than next year's freshmen.
commavegarage {l Wrote}:if we fire jimmy mac, which will be at least another season from now (and it would have to be another disastrous season for him not to get the season beyond that), we will hire another mac coach
commavegarage {l Wrote}:if we fire jimmy mac, which will be at least another season from now (and it would have to be another disastrous season for him not to get the season beyond that), we will hire another mac coach
TobaccoRoadEagle {l Wrote}:jimmy Mac should have been fired at halftime today. Fuck jimmy and fuck bc
cremins {l Wrote}:back to the big question, like we all talked about before, when is the time to fire JC.
we all know that we need some sort of stability to help with the systems (offense and defense),
and recruiting but when is the time to give up on that.
if we had a young guy who we were all 100% sure was a great coach then we give that patience,
like a pastner, or miller or drew or ford or Willard. but I am not really sure and I am sure most
of you are in the same boat, if Christian is the answer. he hasn't really been a winner.
think we have to give him two more years with the freshmen and see what happens but im
skeptical.
eepstein0 {l Wrote}:cremins {l Wrote}:back to the big question, like we all talked about before, when is the time to fire JC.
we all know that we need some sort of stability to help with the systems (offense and defense),
and recruiting but when is the time to give up on that.
if we had a young guy who we were all 100% sure was a great coach then we give that patience,
like a pastner, or miller or drew or ford or Willard. but I am not really sure and I am sure most
of you are in the same boat, if Christian is the answer. he hasn't really been a winner.
think we have to give him two more years with the freshmen and see what happens but im
skeptical.
This is and was always a 5 year rebuild. This was also always going to bottom out this year, expedited by Eli Carter ruining this entire team with his awful attitude. Losing your two best freshman also has not helped.
jhiggi02 {l Wrote}:twballgame9 {l Wrote}:The Celtic's star is Isaiah Thomas. They were a sub-.500 team headed for the lottery the day that trade was made. From the trade to the playoffs last season, the Cs had the second best record in the East (and that wasn't enough to get their pre-Thomas record even) and have the third best record in the East thus far.
It's a nice narrative, and Stevens is a good coach, but Thomas has turned himself into a top 20 player in this league. And Ainge built a team that plays brutal defense and has a ton of depth, so the lack of a #2 or even #3 (I'd argue Evan Turner could be the #3 guy in this system) is covered up by the fact that they might have the most talented second unit in the NBA.
I haven't been able to watch too many C's games, so I will take your word.
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:jhiggi02 {l Wrote}:twballgame9 {l Wrote}:The Celtic's star is Isaiah Thomas. They were a sub-.500 team headed for the lottery the day that trade was made. From the trade to the playoffs last season, the Cs had the second best record in the East (and that wasn't enough to get their pre-Thomas record even) and have the third best record in the East thus far.
It's a nice narrative, and Stevens is a good coach, but Thomas has turned himself into a top 20 player in this league. And Ainge built a team that plays brutal defense and has a ton of depth, so the lack of a #2 or even #3 (I'd argue Evan Turner could be the #3 guy in this system) is covered up by the fact that they might have the most talented second unit in the NBA.
I haven't been able to watch too many C's games, so I will take your word.
I watch maybe 1 out of every 3-4 games, usually at the gym. The NBA is still tough to watch, even the way the Celtics play. That said, I saw a stat the other day that said they have the 6th best record in the league since the Thomas trade, a stretch that now equals almost a full season of games. They were a solid lottery team for the year and a half before that. That and noting that Thomas is averaging 21 ppg and 7 apg may be IB'ing the point a bit, but the stats do speak for themselves a bit.
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:Stevens was there when they sucked. Thomas was not.
Bunratty {l Wrote}:twballgame9 {l Wrote}:Stevens was there when they sucked. Thomas was not.
Your too good to have actually just typed that.
Bumpers {l Wrote}:From a purely personal perspective, as a former athlete and one who cares about BC sports as a brand, the totality of FB and BB over the past 6 years has been so utterly boring and dreadful, both in actual quality and W/L wise, that all alumni everywhere should deliver a demand to the administration: shutter the FB and BB programs as scholarship sports. These embarrassing, abominable endeavors have proven only one thing, that this university lacks the functional capacity to operate this complex and heavy machinery. If they continue on at this pace, someone is just going to get hurt.
Let's just stick to what we are good at, the frozen and liquid water sports.
Honestly, when we are actually, honestly pining for the days of and Al, its ovah,
Dick Rosenthal {l Wrote}:Just because, I'll note that St. Bonnies is now 20-7 and is considered to have a 70% chance of making the tourney. They have also won their last 4 against ranked oppoeopponents, including 3 of those on the road. Having given it some thought, Schmidt is now probably too old for this job--I think he is 54--but Jesus Christ how did Bates not hire him over Christian? He was an alum, who would have been dirt cheap and has a better resume than Christian by every objective measure.
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