Hanlan

[twballgame9]

I also think epstein's evaluation of the impact on recruiting of 11-20 without Hanlan and 16-17 with him is grossly exaggerated.

why?

Shit is shit.

The guy was first team all ACC. Your revisionist history of Hanlan is terrible. The current freshman are such a big improvement over the awfulness he was forced to play with last year

He's not good enough to turn what YOU called a single digit win team into what YOU called an NIT/bubble contender. That's fairies and rainbows type shit right there, tin man.

He somehow won 4 games in the ACC last year with a team with less talent than I ever thought was imaginable. Jesus we almost beat UNC playing a walk on at PF at home. Hanlan and one reasonable fifth year and this was an NIT team.

No.

[twballgame9]

Again, Hanlan had a .381 winning percentage at BC

[eepstein0]

Again, Hanlan had a .381 winning percentage at BC

Playing with kids who shouldn't have been offered a Division 1 scholarship.

[2001Eagle]

Hanlan isn't going to make this team good enough to impact recruiting. BC had a .381 winning percentage in his three seasons, and freshman, as talented as they may be, are going to have a learning curve.

Hanlan makes the difference of maybe 3-4 wins. If that. If the team is going to be less than ten wins, then the record with him would be shitty enough that it wouldn't help recruiting. If he makes this team a .500 team, then going 13-19 instead is only a marginal difference.

You are changing your argument about the freshmen now from back in page 3 now. and the idea that Hanlan is worth only 3-4 wins, or less, is laughable.

[2001Eagle]

Again, Hanlan had a .381 winning percentage at BC

Playing with kids who shouldn't have been offered a Division 1 scholarship.

For a coach we all agree, in hindsight, was in miles over his head.

[eepstein0]

Hanlan isn't going to make this team good enough to impact recruiting. BC had a .381 winning percentage in his three seasons, and freshman, as talented as they may be, are going to have a learning curve.

Hanlan makes the difference of maybe 3-4 wins. If that. If the team is going to be less than ten wins, then the record with him would be shitty enough that it wouldn't help recruiting. If he makes this team a .500 team, then going 13-19 instead is only a marginal difference.

You are changing your argument about the freshmen now from back in page 3 now. and the idea that Hanlan is worth only 3-4 wins, or less, is laughable.

This. He was on the first team in the best conference. He has plenty of faults, but is ridiculously good at scoring

[BCEagles25]

A team of Hanlan, Milon, Turner, Davis (perhaps), Shonn Miller or the other prospective transfer (forget his name), Hicks, Magarity, Robinson, Clifford, Owens, and Diallo is an NIT team in my opinion. That team is much more apt to guard the post, which was one of our biggest problems. Take out Hanlan, and that team struggles

[TobaccoRoadEagle]

A team of Hanlan, Milon, Turner, Davis (perhaps), Shonn Miller or the other prospective transfer (forget his name), Hicks, Magarity, Robinson, Clifford, Owens, and Diallo is an NIT team in my opinion. That team is much more apt to guard the post, which was one of our biggest problems. Take out Hanlan, and that team struggles

because we lose hanlan's post-guarding abilities?

do we still have the reif?

[twballgame9]

Guy like Hanlan worth that many games in the ACC, you figure he's a lottery pick right?

[twballgame9]

Hanlan isn't going to make this team good enough to impact recruiting. BC had a .381 winning percentage in his three seasons, and freshman, as talented as they may be, are going to have a learning curve.

Hanlan makes the difference of maybe 3-4 wins. If that. If the team is going to be less than ten wins, then the record with him would be shitty enough that it wouldn't help recruiting. If he makes this team a .500 team, then going 13-19 instead is only a marginal difference.

You are changing your argument about the freshmen now from back in page 3 now. and the idea that Hanlan is worth only 3-4 wins, or less, is laughable.

For the first sentence, no. I said they would be the best players. I didn't say that they would walk on campus awesome. Indeed, my whole point about not caring about Hanlan leaving was more shots for the guys that need to learn to take them.

Some shitty attempts at Socrates in this thread.

For the second sentence - LOTTERY PICK!!!

[2001Eagle]

Hanlan isn't going to make this team good enough to impact recruiting. BC had a .381 winning percentage in his three seasons, and freshman, as talented as they may be, are going to have a learning curve.

Hanlan makes the difference of maybe 3-4 wins. If that. If the team is going to be less than ten wins, then the record with him would be shitty enough that it wouldn't help recruiting. If he makes this team a .500 team, then going 13-19 instead is only a marginal difference.

You are changing your argument about the freshmen now from back in page 3 now. and the idea that Hanlan is worth only 3-4 wins, or less, is laughable.

For the first sentence, no. I said they would be the best players. I didn't say that they would walk on campus awesome. Indeed, my whole point about not caring about Hanlan leaving was more shots for the guys that need to learn to take them.

Some shitty attempts at Socrates in this thread.

For the second sentence - LOTTERY PICK!!!

You said freshmen play all the time and play well. And Hanlan led the conference in scoring.

You are dumb and I bet you are a least slightly overweight.

[twballgame9]

Hanlan isn't going to make this team good enough to impact recruiting. BC had a .381 winning percentage in his three seasons, and freshman, as talented as they may be, are going to have a learning curve.

Hanlan makes the difference of maybe 3-4 wins. If that. If the team is going to be less than ten wins, then the record with him would be shitty enough that it wouldn't help recruiting. If he makes this team a .500 team, then going 13-19 instead is only a marginal difference.

You are changing your argument about the freshmen now from back in page 3 now. and the idea that Hanlan is worth only 3-4 wins, or less, is laughable.

For the first sentence, no. I said they would be the best players. I didn't say that they would walk on campus awesome. Indeed, my whole point about not caring about Hanlan leaving was more shots for the guys that need to learn to take them.

Some shitty attempts at Socrates in this thread.

For the second sentence - LOTTERY PICK!!!

You said freshmen play all the time and play well. And Hanlan led the conference in scoring.

You are dumb and I bet you are a least slightly overweight.

Your mom smells like cheese.

[Corporal Funishment]

You know, I remembered a lot of dumb talk on this board after Tyrese graduated, so I went back and checked it out, and guess who made these glorious predictions:

Let me be the first to say two things:

1. That was the greatest ACC Championship game ever. Period.

2. This year's team will be better than that year's team.

The 2005-2006 BC team was the best team we'll ever field. It had 3 NBA players and at least 3 guys who are playing in pretty competitive leagues in Europe. If you meant that this year's BC team will advance further than the Sweet 16, well, that's possible although unlikely.

This team will be better. Mark it. And the best NBA player of all of them is currently on the team.

Rakim Sanders has more pro potential than Craig Smith, Jared Dudley and combined. The first two were the prototypical "college players" each of which is carving out a pro career as an 8th man, undersized and underathletic at his position, is just a douche. Rakim will have a much better career than any of them by 10 fold. I just hope that now that the gratuitous ball hog is gone, he doesn't blow up so much this year that he leaves early.

Let's hope AJ Turner doesn't jump immediately to the NBA like Rakim did now that he won't have gratuitous ball hog / Greek League slowing him down.

[twballgame9]

You know, I remembered a lot of dumb talk on this board after Tyrese graduated, so I went back and checked it out, and guess who made these glorious predictions:

Let me be the first to say two things:

1. That was the greatest ACC Championship game ever. Period.

2. This year's team will be better than that year's team.

The 2005-2006 BC team was the best team we'll ever field. It had 3 NBA players and at least 3 guys who are playing in pretty competitive leagues in Europe. If you meant that this year's BC team will advance further than the Sweet 16, well, that's possible although unlikely.

This team will be better. Mark it. And the best NBA player of all of them is currently on the team.

Rakim Sanders has more pro potential than Craig Smith, Jared Dudley and combined. The first two were the prototypical "college players" each of which is carving out a pro career as an 8th man, undersized and underathletic at his position, is just a douche. Rakim will have a much better career than any of them by 10 fold. I just hope that now that the gratuitous ball hog is gone, he doesn't blow up so much this year that he leaves early.

Let's hope AJ Turner doesn't jump immediately to the NBA like Rakim did now that he won't have gratuitous ball hog / Greek League slowing him down.

Rakim Sanders still has more pro potential and more cheesesteaks. He's lighting up Hanlan's future league.

[twballgame9]

PS - glass houses

http://www.eagleoutsider.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=14014&p=366493#p366493

[twballgame9]

http://www.eagleoutsider.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=14328&p=378924#p378924

And you've only been posting a year.

[Corporal Funishment]

I'm still proud of the quality of that picture, although it wasn't as prescient as my foul machine!

[TobaccoRoadEagle]

[claver2010]

Guy like Hanlan worth that many games in the ACC, you figure he's a lottery pick right?

aren't you the one who calls it the not basketball association?

[twballgame9]

Guy like Hanlan worth that many games in the ACC, you figure he's a lottery pick right?

aren't you the one who calls it the not basketball association?

College is not much different anymore.

Also, you got the point backward. He's not worth that many games in the ACC, people are being stupid because they are upset he is leaving.

[twballgame9]

The hoop w3ird0 assessment of my intelligence may keep me up for 4 or 5 seconds tonight.

Back on point, tell me again how Hanlan makes BC an NIT team, but without him they win single digits, but even being that great, he won't be a lottery pick. I'll enjoy the dance..

[BCEagles25]

Great college players aren't always lottery picks. Or even drafted for that matter

[footer20]

Creighton won 27 games with Doug McDermott in 13-14 and 14 games without him in 14-15, and if you re did the draft he would not be a lottery pick. I am not saying that we would be an NIT team with Hanlan (we wouldn't) but a player of his caliber is worth a hell of a lot more that 3 games.

[twballgame9]

If you redid the draft he would not be a lottery pick? Really? He was the 11th pick in the draft.

You can redo the draft 100 times and Hanlan never sniffs the lottery.

[DavidGordonsFoot]

Creighton won 27 games with Doug McDermott in 13-14 and 14 games without him in 14-15, and if you re did the draft he would not be a lottery pick.

you serious clark?

[twballgame9]

Creighton won 27 games with Doug McDermott in 13-14 and 14 games without him in 14-15, and if you re did the draft he would not be a lottery pick.

you serious clark?

Sad part is that I hate the Not Basketball Association for the most part, but it took me three seconds to determine that he's been hurt most of the year.

[Boston College 8]

so whats the deal

is he staying or going

i really believe after thinking about it a lot, the better decision for the team 100% in the short and long term is for him to come back. i also think it is in his best interest to come back

i think with him we are 18-15. without him we are 12-21.

[BCEagles25]

Teddy, the fact that we're trying to convince you that great college players aren't always lottery picks is flooring. It floors me. I am.. floored.

[twballgame9]

The fact that I have to convince anyone that the presence of Olivier Hanlan does not an NIT team make is simply, well, we've seen three years of that shit already.

He's not remotely in the category of "great BC players" let alone "great college basketball players"

[NJM89]

Officially going to NBA according to bceagles.com