Hanlan

[eepstein0]

Go home Teddy, you're drunk.

You guys want to watch him shoot 30 times and lead his team to a .389 winning percentage, I am sure Greece has a German-subsidized TV station.

You're so absurd. He attempted 15 shots a game this year. He can take 16-18 shots a game next year and provide a legitimate scoring option that takes pressure off of the new players so they aren't thrown to the wolves. A better record next year, with the small chance of a tournament appearance, only helps the recruiting efforts - which are plainly trending upward. Whoever said up above is right - there's no lottery pick for finishing DFL in the ACC next year.

TWB is bat shit crazy on this one. Winning 8 games isn't going to help recruiting, nor is getting axe murdered every night in the ACC.

I'm so sick of watching walk ons and God awful basketball players at BC.

[eepstein0]

Hicks, Robinson, Milon, Turner, Owens, Davis, Magerity, Diallo, Clifford.

That is your rotation right now. You're counting on a guy coming back from two major knee surgeries running the point or a 6'5 kid in Robinson who many think should be playing mid-major. You're counting on Owens to participate in a basketball game and Clifford to actually play serious minutes.

Next year should be oodles of fun!

[Primetime]

Hicks, Robinson, Milon, Turner, Owens, Davis, Magerity, Diallo, Clifford.

That is your rotation right now. You're counting on a guy coming back from two major knee surgeries running the point or a 6'5 kid in Robinson who many think should be playing mid-major. You're counting on Owens to participate in a basketball game and Clifford to actually play serious minutes.

Next year should be oodles of fun!

It's even worse than you describe - you're assuming Davis is in the bag.

Experienced players: Clifford, Owens, Magarity
On campus/no experience: Hicks, Diallo
True freshmen: Robinson, Milon, Turner

This is REALLY bad. If Hanlan does leave (is that final?) then Jimmy Mac is going to have to not only get Davis, but at least TWO 5th years to start and play 25-30 minutes each to give this team a prayer at staying competitive.

Hanlan leaving isn't a good thing at all. He can show the young guys how to "be a pro" and help raise their games in practice. He might take 20 shots but who would you rather see shoot the ball? And if we're trying to recruit Top-150 guys for the Class of 2016, a record of say 17-16 (7-11) vs. a record of 9-24 (2-16) actually would be RIDICULOUSLY helpful.

Please stay Olivier...unfortunately he is old for a rising senior and I see marginal upside (similar/slightly better year) vs. significant downside (another year older, injury risk). Even ACC POY wouldn't do much for him.

[MattTheEagle]

If Hanlan leaves, I'd like to see us make a run at Jordan Daniels. I actually think he'd really help a team desperate for a true point guard.

[bchockey04]

If Hanlan leaves, I'd like to see us make a run at Jordan Daniels. I actually think he'd really help a team desperate for a true point guard.

Oh lord, the Jordan Daniels talk has spread from TOS to here. It's like a virus.

He averaged 7 points and 1 assist on a 9-22 mid major team. In what world is that someone you should want to bring in to run an offense in the ACC?

[Dick Rosenthal]

I think I come down somewhere between Teddy and Epstein on this one. From what I have observed, I don't think Hanlan gets us to the NIT. The best case scenario with him is probably a game or two above .500 overall and a trip to the CBI (I would assume at this point we would happily accept an invitation). With that said, there is somthing to be said for having a senior leader to set a good example for the kids. Of course, that assumes that Hanlan will play like a PG--trying to get people involved in the offense as opposed to chucking 20+ shots a game--and gives good effort on defense (which he did at the end of the year).

One other thing. While minus Hanlan this is a bad team, I don't think that you can equate this to the putrid, oft-cited above Don Debacle. That team wasn't just young, it was bereft of legitimate D1 talent--not mid major talent mind you, but guys who should have been playing for Tufts logging significant minutes in ACC games. That team was historically bad and was poorly coached. I am not all in on Christian and I would have preferred Mark Schmidt and a few other gettable others, but I saw enough this year to see that he is a solid x and os upgrade over Donahue. And while we are obviously going to be very young and inexperienced, I have heard no indications (as I did during the Don's tenure) that the kids we were bringing in had no business playing on an ACC roster. Without Hanlan, my expectation is that we do what really young teams with legitimate ACC talent do--lose a lot, sometimes to mid-majors and other teams they outclass from an athleticism and talent perspective, but have one or two games where they put it all together and beat a top team. The record may not look much different from this year, but if it is progressing it will include a win or two over a top 25 team.

[2001Eagle]

The "I don't give a fuck if Hanlan leaves" disciples also overlook how his departure impacts the ability of the staff to close out the 2015 class. Coaches talking to Davis from other school are rightfully gonna say - yeah you can play right away at BC but who the fuck is going to pass to you? Some walk on?

[eepstein0]

I think I come down somewhere between Teddy and Epstein on this one. From what I have observed, I don't think Hanlan gets us to the NIT. The best case scenario with him is probably a game or two above .500 overall and a trip to the CBI (I would assume at this point we would happily accept an invitation). With that said, there is somthing to be said for having a senior leader to set a good example for the kids. Of course, that assumes that Hanlan will play like a PG--trying to get people involved in the offense as opposed to chucking 20+ shots a game--and gives good effort on defense (which he did at the end of the year).

One other thing. While minus Hanlan this is a bad team, I don't think that you can equate this to the putrid, oft-cited above Don Debacle. That team wasn't just young, it was bereft of legitimate D1 talent--not mid major talent mind you, but guys who should have been playing for Tufts logging significant minutes in ACC games. That team was historically bad and was poorly coached. I am not all in on Christian and I would have preferred Mark Schmidt and a few other gettable others, but I saw enough this year to see that he is a solid x and os upgrade over Donahue. And while we are obviously going to be very young and inexperienced, I have heard no indications (as I did during the Don's tenure) that the kids we were bringing in had no business playing on an ACC roster. Without Hanlan, my expectation is that we do what really young teams with legitimate ACC talent do--lose a lot, sometimes to mid-majors and other teams they outclass from an athleticism and talent perspective, but have one or two games where they put it all together and beat a top team. The record may not look much different from this year, but if it is progressing it will include a win or two over a top 25 team.

BC will never accept a CBI invite, it's pay to play and BC is cheap.

I think you're pretty close here. They'll win a few less games since they'll blow some games to America East teams early in the year. The players he is bringing in are 100% ACC caliber players (as evidenced that they all have offers from other ACC schools) but they're going to be crazy young.

I think the defense might be a little better with the increase in athleticism and shot blocking and the fact the other players were clueless on defense. The offense will be horrific.

Lastly, without Hanlan, there is really no reason to play the older players big minutes. This year is a total throw away anyway, let's not waste time playing Owens and Clifford 30 minutes a night.

[eepstein0]

If Hanlan leaves, I'd like to see us make a run at Jordan Daniels. I actually think he'd really help a team desperate for a true point guard.

Oh lord, the Jordan Daniels talk has spread from TOS to here. It's like a virus.

He averaged 7 points and 1 assist on a 9-22 mid major team. In what world is that someone you should want to bring in to run an offense in the ACC?

Jordan Daniels is a vast improvement over the walk on who would currently start and play 40 minutes. We don't have a single PG on the roster..

I think Robinson and Hicks could handle the ball is small portions, but against a team like Louisville we'd commit 30 turnovers without a PG

[Corporal Funishment]

If Hanlan leaves, I'd like to see us make a run at Jordan Daniels. I actually think he'd really help a team desperate for a true point guard.

Oh lord, the Jordan Daniels talk has spread from TOS to here. It's like a virus.

He averaged 7 points and 1 assist on a 9-22 mid major team. In what world is that someone you should want to bring in to run an offense in the ACC?

Jordan Daniels is a vast improvement over the walk on who would currently start and play 40 minutes. We don't have a single PG on the roster..

I think Robinson and Hicks could handle the ball is small portions, but against a team like Louisville we'd commit 30 turnovers without a PG

Robinson is a PG. Milon and Hicks are 2 guards. PG #2 is currently Pornopig. For a mid-major 5th year point guard looking for playing time in a big conference, this is as good as it gets.

edit: I found this, it's encouraging

December 30, 2014 Broughton defeated Millbrook 78-74 in the prestigious High School OT Invitational tournament to capture the Summit Hospitality title. After the game, star 6’5″ senior Jerome Robinson emerged from the locker room into the crowd, receiving many congratulatory words for his performance. He had scored 13 or his 17 points in the second half to help secure the win for his team. Throughout the game he exhibited phenomenal patience for the lead guard position. Millbrook plays one of the most stifling presses in the state. They are known for speeding up ball-handlers and making opponents dribble right into no mans land, forcing turnovers. There were two main reasons why Broughton was able to prevail…Robinson size and poise. Instead of forcing the issue, Robinson just dribble to his spots on the court, surveyed the court, and passed right over the trap to the open man. This softened up the defense for him in the second half to become more aggressive and look for his own offense down the stretch.

WHAT IS BOSTON COLLEGE GETTING:

The Eagles are getting a team first lead guard that does a great job playing with poise and playing to his strengths. He enjoys the defensive end of the court and embraces challenges on that end. Due to his length, he effectively guards all perimeter positions. He is a crafty ball handler that does a great job creating driving angles off the bounce. Robinson is a good perimeter shooter and is showing that he can do it off the catch or off the bounce. Robinson possesses sneaky athleticism and can surprise defenders at times by flushing one over opponents in dramatic fashion. While Robinson possesses excellent height and size for his position, his greatest attribute is leadership. With his ability, don’t be surprised if he is logging significant minutes sooner than later in Chestnut HIll, Massachusetts.

[HJS]

As we all know, TWB is an avid reader of Bill Simmons and Grantland. Teddy hoping for Hanlan's departure is because he is looking at The Ewing Theory to effect next year and carry us to the NIT.

[HJS]

BTW, any discussion of a 5th year replacing Hanlan greatly misses the point that teddy has done a poor job of making.

[eepstein0]

BTW, any discussion of a 5th year replacing Hanlan greatly misses the point that teddy has done a poor job of making.

You lose all recruiting momentum if you win 8-10 games next year. You can develop the freshman and not be the worst P5 basketball team in America by adding a 5th year or two.

Not to mention it's going to ruin these kids confidence getting mauled every night in the ACC.

[eepstein0]

This is insane. We saw how much Reggie Jackson leaving hurt us. The freshman that we brought in weren't ready, and we sucked. And once we sucked, we brought in recruits that sucked (besides Olivier). Losing Jackson certainly didn't help the progression of Lonnie Jackson and Jordan Daniels and the rest of the freshman class. They're graduating as the least successful class in the history of Boston College basketball.

Correction here. Losing Reggie had nothing to do with the development of Daniels or Lonnie.

[footer20]

So can we compile a list transfers that JC is going after/might go after:

Confirmed:
PF: Shonn Miller --- 6'7" --- Cornell --- Jr. (eligible immediately)

16.8 ppg, 8.5 rpg, 1.8 bpg, 43% FG, 27% 3PT, 83% FT

Considering: UConn, Illinois, Boston College, Michigan, Marquette, California

SF: Tyler Harris --- 6'8" --- Providence --- Jr. (eligible immediately)

9.9 ppg, 4.0 rpg, 42% FG, 29% 3PT, 73% FT

Considering: Connecticut, Arizona, Auburn, Boston College, UMass, Auburn, Iowa State, Oklahoma State, Georgia Tech, Nebraska, La Salle.

SG: Jaren Sina --- 6'2" --- Seton Hall --- So.

7.0 ppg, 2.5 rpg, 2.3 apg, 32% FG, 32% FT, 79% FT

Considering: Michigan, George Washington, Boston College, Rhode Island, South Carolina

Possibilities: Guards
PG: Dylan Ennis --- 6'2" --- Villanova --- Sr. (eligible immediately)

9.9 ppg, 3.7 rpg, 3.5 apg, 41% FG, 36% 3PT, 62% FT

Unknown what schools he is considering but he made it known he wanted to be the primary lead guard at whatever he school he chooses.

PG: Kevin Zabo --- 6'2" --- San Diego St. --- Fr.

2.6 ppg, 1.0 rpg, 0.6 apg, 36% FG, 36% 3PT, 56% FT

Not eligible immediately. Played high school ball at St. Mark's and Brewster.

SG: Derrick Gordon --- 6'3" --- UMass --- Jr. (eligible immediately)

9.7 ppg, 4.9 rpg, 2.7 apg, 40% FG, 8% 3PT, 73% FT

Considering Oregon State, Utah State, UNLV at the moment

PG: Anthony Collins --- 5-10" --- South Florida --- Jr. (eligible immediately)

7.1 ppg, 2.6 rpg, 5.2 apg, 44% FG, 27% 3PT, 68% FT

Considering California, Tennessee, Baylor, Georgetown, St. John's, Purdue at the moment

SG: Anton Gill --- 6'3" --- Louisville --- So.

2.5 ppg, 0.8 rpg, 35% FG, 26% 3PT, 37% FT

Not eligible immediately. Considering Providence, Nebraska, East Carolina at the moment

PG: Jordan Daniels --- 5'8" --- Drake --- Jr. (eligible immediately)

7.0 ppg, 1.4 apg, 44% FG, 37% 3PT, 83% FT

SG: Duece Bello --- 6'4" --- Missouri --- Jr. (eligible immediately)

1.8 ppg, 1.1 rpg, 38% FG, 25% 3PT, 33%FT

PG: Ge Lawn Guyn --- 6'2" --- Cincinnati --- Jr. (eligible immediately)

2.3 ppg, 1.3 rpg, 1.0 apg, 23% FG, 16% 3PT

PG: Johnny Hill --- 6'3" --- UT Arlington --- Jr. (eligible immediately)

9.6 ppg, 4.1 rpg, 3.4 apg, 46% FG, 25% 3PT, 69% FT

PG: Shelton Mitchell --- 6'3" --- Vanderbilt --- Fr.

4.3 ppg, 3.3 apg, 37% FG, 23% 3PT, 71% FT

Considering Clemson, NC State, and Charlotte at the moment

PG: Alex Mitola --- 5'11" --- Dartmouth --- Jr. (eligible immediately)

12.4 ppg, 2.7 apg, 39% FG, 37% 3PT, 85% FT

Considering Vanderbilt, Temple, LaSalle, George Washington, Belmont, Iona, Fairfield at the moment

Possibilities: Forwards
PF: Angel Nunez --- 6'8" --- Gonzaga --- Jr. (eligible immediately)

2.7 ppg, 1.9 rpg, 59% FG, 65% FT

Considering St. Johns, South Florida, Nevada, Towson, Cal St. Northridge and Texas Southern at the moment

PF: Antwan Space --- 6'8" --- Texas AM --- Jr. (eligible immediately)

4.2 ppg, 2.9 rpg, 47% FG, 59% FT

[eepstein0]

The Ennis kid would be great and avoid TWB/HJSs wet dream of next year

[twballgame9]

TWB is right in that next year was a throw away either way, but to say they won't be significantly worse is insane.

No one said they won't be worse without Hanlan. They just won't be good enough with him for it to make a damn bit of difference. Nothing about Hanlan's 3 years here indicates he is prepared to lead a team full of freshmen to the NIT.

Next year is a throw away year. Throw it away playing the guys that will be here the year after. I'll pass on one last year of Hanlan scoring 19 and not playing defense.

[twballgame9]

As we all know, TWB is an avid reader of Bill Simmons and Grantland. Teddy hoping for Hanlan's departure is because he is looking at The Ewing Theory to effect next year and carry us to the NIT.

Bill Simmons sucks worse than your reading comprehension, always has. There are a couple of good sports reads on Grantland like Keri.

[twballgame9]

For the record, I didn't care one way or the other whether Hanlan stayed or left. I would not, however, bring in Jordan Daniels to try to squeeze out 3 more wins. I also think epstein's evaluation of the impact on recruiting of 11-20 without Hanlan and 16-17 with him is grossly exaggerated. The underlying premise that people think this is an NIT team with Hanlan is absurd. It's the same people that expect BC to be better at football because the first year QB should have more talent. Christian landed a nice class - even better if Davis is in the fold - but they are not going to shed the growing pains until Hanlan is gone, even if he stayed.

If you bring in 5th years, I'd still prefer an athletic big to take minutes from Clifford or a little depth. I'd also be putting all of my focus on Davis. I want to see the guys that JC wants to put out on the court, not the ones he is forced to put out there. The sooner the better.

[eepstein0]

For the record, I didn't care one way or the other whether Hanlan stayed or left. I would not, however, bring in Jordan Daniels to try to squeeze out 3 more wins. I also think epstein's evaluation of the impact on recruiting of 11-20 without Hanlan and 16-17 with him is grossly exaggerated. The underlying premise that people think this is an NIT team with Hanlan is absurd. It's the same people that expect BC to be better at football because the first year QB should have more talent. Christian landed a nice class - even better if Davis is in the fold - but they are not going to shed the growing pains until Hanlan is gone, even if he stayed.

If you bring in 5th years, I'd still prefer an athletic big to take minutes from Clifford or a little depth. I'd also be putting all of my focus on Davis. I want to see the guys that JC wants to put out on the court, not the ones he is forced to put out there. The sooner the better.

A team starting 5 freshman isn't winning 11 games with a bench of Owens, Magerity and Clifford.

[2001Eagle]

I also think epstein's evaluation of the impact on recruiting of 11-20 without Hanlan and 16-17 with him is grossly exaggerated.

why?

[GreenvilleEagle]

So can we compile a list transfers that JC is going after/might go after:

Confirmed:
PF: Shonn Miller --- 6'7" --- Cornell --- Jr. (eligible immediately)

16.8 ppg, 8.5 rpg, 1.8 bpg, 43% FG, 27% 3PT, 83% FT

Considering: UConn, Illinois, Boston College, Michigan, Marquette, California

SF: Tyler Harris --- 6'8" --- Providence --- Jr. (eligible immediately)

9.9 ppg, 4.0 rpg, 42% FG, 29% 3PT, 73% FT

Considering: Connecticut, Arizona, Auburn, Boston College, UMass, Auburn, Iowa State, Oklahoma State, Georgia Tech, Nebraska, La Salle.

SG: Jaren Sina --- 6'2" --- Seton Hall --- So.

7.0 ppg, 2.5 rpg, 2.3 apg, 32% FG, 32% FT, 79% FT

Considering: Michigan, George Washington, Boston College, Rhode Island, South Carolina

Possibilities: Guards
PG: Dylan Ennis --- 6'2" --- Villanova --- Sr. (eligible immediately)

9.9 ppg, 3.7 rpg, 3.5 apg, 41% FG, 36% 3PT, 62% FT

Unknown what schools he is considering but he made it known he wanted to be the primary lead guard at whatever he school he chooses.

PG: Kevin Zabo --- 6'2" --- San Diego St. --- Fr.

2.6 ppg, 1.0 rpg, 0.6 apg, 36% FG, 36% 3PT, 56% FT

Not eligible immediately. Played high school ball at St. Mark's and Brewster.

SG: Derrick Gordon --- 6'3" --- UMass --- Jr. (eligible immediately)

9.7 ppg, 4.9 rpg, 2.7 apg, 40% FG, 8% 3PT, 73% FT

Considering Oregon State, Utah State, UNLV at the moment

PG: Anthony Collins --- 5-10" --- South Florida --- Jr. (eligible immediately)

7.1 ppg, 2.6 rpg, 5.2 apg, 44% FG, 27% 3PT, 68% FT

Considering California, Tennessee, Baylor, Georgetown, St. John's, Purdue at the moment

SG: Anton Gill --- 6'3" --- Louisville --- So.

2.5 ppg, 0.8 rpg, 35% FG, 26% 3PT, 37% FT

Not eligible immediately. Considering Providence, Nebraska, East Carolina at the moment

PG: Jordan Daniels --- 5'8" --- Drake --- Jr. (eligible immediately)

7.0 ppg, 1.4 apg, 44% FG, 37% 3PT, 83% FT

SG: Duece Bello --- 6'4" --- Missouri --- Jr. (eligible immediately)

1.8 ppg, 1.1 rpg, 38% FG, 25% 3PT, 33%FT

PG: Ge Lawn Guyn --- 6'2" --- Cincinnati --- Jr. (eligible immediately)

2.3 ppg, 1.3 rpg, 1.0 apg, 23% FG, 16% 3PT

PG: Johnny Hill --- 6'3" --- UT Arlington --- Jr. (eligible immediately)

9.6 ppg, 4.1 rpg, 3.4 apg, 46% FG, 25% 3PT, 69% FT

PG: Shelton Mitchell --- 6'3" --- Vanderbilt --- Fr.

4.3 ppg, 3.3 apg, 37% FG, 23% 3PT, 71% FT

Considering Clemson, NC State, and Charlotte at the moment

PG: Alex Mitola --- 5'11" --- Dartmouth --- Jr. (eligible immediately)

12.4 ppg, 2.7 apg, 39% FG, 37% 3PT, 85% FT

Considering Vanderbilt, Temple, LaSalle, George Washington, Belmont, Iona, Fairfield at the moment

Possibilities: Forwards
PF: Angel Nunez --- 6'8" --- Gonzaga --- Jr. (eligible immediately)

2.7 ppg, 1.9 rpg, 59% FG, 65% FT

Considering St. Johns, South Florida, Nevada, Towson, Cal St. Northridge and Texas Southern at the moment

PF: Antwan Space --- 6'8" --- Texas AM --- Jr. (eligible immediately)

4.2 ppg, 2.9 rpg, 47% FG, 59% FT

Rafael Maia - 6'9" - Brown?

[GreenvilleEagle]

If Hanlan leaves, I'd like to see us make a run at Jordan Daniels. I actually think he'd really help a team desperate for a true point guard.

Oh lord, the Jordan Daniels talk has spread from TOS to here. It's like a virus.

He averaged 7 points and 1 assist on a 9-22 mid major team. In what world is that someone you should want to bring in to run an offense in the ACC?

Jordan Daniels is a vast improvement over the walk on ...

NO

[twballgame9]

I also think epstein's evaluation of the impact on recruiting of 11-20 without Hanlan and 16-17 with him is grossly exaggerated.

why?

Shit is shit.

[twballgame9]

For the record, I didn't care one way or the other whether Hanlan stayed or left. I would not, however, bring in Jordan Daniels to try to squeeze out 3 more wins. I also think epstein's evaluation of the impact on recruiting of 11-20 without Hanlan and 16-17 with him is grossly exaggerated. The underlying premise that people think this is an NIT team with Hanlan is absurd. It's the same people that expect BC to be better at football because the first year QB should have more talent. Christian landed a nice class - even better if Davis is in the fold - but they are not going to shed the growing pains until Hanlan is gone, even if he stayed.

If you bring in 5th years, I'd still prefer an athletic big to take minutes from Clifford or a little depth. I'd also be putting all of my focus on Davis. I want to see the guys that JC wants to put out on the court, not the ones he is forced to put out there. The sooner the better.

A team starting 5 freshman isn't winning 11 games with a bench of Owens, Magerity and Clifford.

Olivier Hanlan is not worth double digit wins, as he has so aptly proven. If my projection for the team is off without him - then it is off with him. He doesn't make the difference between a 7 win team and a 17 win team.

If this team is not a 10 win team without Hanlan then it wouldn't sniff .500 with him.

[eepstein0]

I also think epstein's evaluation of the impact on recruiting of 11-20 without Hanlan and 16-17 with him is grossly exaggerated.

why?

Shit is shit.

The guy was first team all ACC. Your revisionist history of Hanlan is terrible. The current freshman are such a big improvement over the awfulness he was forced to play with last year

[twballgame9]

I also think epstein's evaluation of the impact on recruiting of 11-20 without Hanlan and 16-17 with him is grossly exaggerated.

why?

Shit is shit.

The guy was first team all ACC. Your revisionist history of Hanlan is terrible. The current freshman are such a big improvement over the awfulness he was forced to play with last year

He's not good enough to turn what YOU called a single digit win team into what YOU called an NIT/bubble contender. That's fairies and rainbows type shit right there, tin man.

[eepstein0]

I also think epstein's evaluation of the impact on recruiting of 11-20 without Hanlan and 16-17 with him is grossly exaggerated.

why?

Shit is shit.

The guy was first team all ACC. Your revisionist history of Hanlan is terrible. The current freshman are such a big improvement over the awfulness he was forced to play with last year

He's not good enough to turn what YOU called a single digit win team into what YOU called an NIT/bubble contender. That's fairies and rainbows type shit right there, tin man.

He somehow won 4 games in the ACC last year with a team with less talent than I ever thought was imaginable. Jesus we almost beat UNC playing a walk on at PF at home. Hanlan and one reasonable fifth year and this was an NIT team.

[eepstein0]

Also, how do you think recruits view an 8 win team versus a team with a winning record?

This is the same argument as to why Daz can't go 3-9 this year. It totally tanks the positive momentum on the recruiting

[twballgame9]

Hanlan isn't going to make this team good enough to impact recruiting. BC had a .381 winning percentage in his three seasons, and freshman, as talented as they may be, are going to have a learning curve.

Hanlan makes the difference of maybe 3-4 wins. If that. If the team is going to be less than ten wins, then the record with him would be shitty enough that it wouldn't help recruiting. If he makes this team a .500 team, then going 13-19 instead is only a marginal difference.