ACC Tournament Thread: "A charge towards eternal glory"

[twballgame9]

Hanlan is staying and they will land one more 2015 and a transfer of some sort. I actually think next season will be better, though they will miss Batten, Brown and Heckmann.

[claver2010]

Thank god we never have to watch a team comprised of America East talent again! Release the legitimate athletes!

We should probably discuss next year sans Hanlan before making this statement

Eh. I'd rather watch a team of young, inexperienced actual D1 basketball players lose every game as they get better than watch another year of this team's journey to nowhere

This.

I've seen enough of Drago, Odio, etc & having Caudill eat (puns!) a scholarship

[TobaccoRoadEagle]

Hanlan is staying ...

exactly, and then funishment will have a fun signature for a week...

i got a heart on for hanlan to the nba
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... Hearts.jpg
it was a huge mistake

[Onyx Blackman]

Hey everybody, Bruce Pearl just won a game, maybe we should of hired him.

[eepstein0]

Hanlan is staying and they will land one more 2015 and a transfer of some sort. I actually think next season will be better, though they will miss Batten, Brown and Heckmann.

This is where I'm at. I think Owens and Hicks go bye-bye via transfer. BC will go 9-10 deep which is below. BC doesn't need a world beater as a transfer, a good defender who can shoot from the wing is fine.

Hanlan
Milon
Turner
Magerity
Diallo

Clifford
Robinson
Transfer
2015

[twballgame9]

I bet Owens stays and is the 10th guy/wing defender.

[eepstein0]

I bet Owens stays and is the 10th guy/wing defender.

He'd be great if he had any clue how to play basketball

[claver2010]

VT hanging in w Miami

Miami right on bubble

[NJM89]

No way is Hicks going to transfer after already sitting out two years in a row. He has been on the bench every game unlike Lonnie who already said he was leaving. Unless he is hanging up the sneaks for good, he will be getting a lot of minutes next year if healthy (and hanlan leaves).

[bchockey04]

Hanlan is staying and they will land one more 2015 and a transfer of some sort. I actually think next season will be better, though they will miss Batten, Brown and Heckmann.

This is where I'm at. I think Owens and Hicks go bye-bye via transfer. BC will go 9-10 deep which is below. BC doesn't need a world beater as a transfer, a good defender who can shoot from the wing is fine.

Hanlan
Milon
Turner
Magerity
Diallo

Clifford
Robinson
Transfer
2015

Is that your starting five up top? No way Diallo starts over Clifford.

[commavegarage]

i dont see a world where hicks leaves. that'd be 3 straight years without ever stepping on the court.

[DavidGordonsFoot]

No way Diallo starts over Clifford.

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[TobaccoRoadEagle]

No way Diallo starts over Clifford.

christnotthisshitagain.jpg

until we know that clifford is 100% i think it's totally believable.

until the redshirt declaration deadline passes, i'm not willing to quit on diallo over clifford as a possibility.

[twballgame9]

I just watched Dennis Clifford get abused in the frontcourt. If Diallo can walk without falling down, he's better than Clifford. I'm holding out for Clifford declaring for the draft with Hanlan.

[Corporal Funishment]

Hanlan is staying ...

exactly, and then funishment will have a fun signature for a week...

Under the terms of our bet, in that scenario neither of us will have a fun signature for a week. Unless one of us decides to make their signature fun voluntarily, which I may do given that I'm wildly unpredictable and I enjoy fun.


I think Diallo could start next year...at the 4, along with starting center Clifford.

[bchockey04]

Hanlan is staying ...

exactly, and then funishment will have a fun signature for a week...

Under the terms of our bet, in that scenario neither of us will have a fun signature for a week. Unless one of us decides to make their signature fun voluntarily, which I may do given that I'm wildly unpredictable and I enjoy fun.


I think Diallo could start next year...at the 4, along with starting center Clifford.

I'm on board with this. Clifford gets abused because the next tallest person helping him in the paint is a 6'6" German who's 200 pounds soaking wet or a former volleyball player. Was basically playing 2 on 1 in there yesterday.

[TobaccoRoadEagle]

Hanlan is staying ...

exactly, and then funishment will have a fun signature for a week...

Under the terms of our bet, in that scenario neither of us will have a fun signature for a week. Unless one of us decides to make their signature fun voluntarily, which I may do given that I'm wildly unpredictable and I enjoy fun.


I think Diallo could start next year...at the 4, along with starting center Clifford.

that's right, i forgot all your pussified caveats. basically, you can't lose because he would never get an agent and declare for the draft unless the agent had him a guaranteed deal prior to signing with that agent.

this signature bet is boring.

[eepstein0]

Hanlan is staying ...

exactly, and then funishment will have a fun signature for a week...

Under the terms of our bet, in that scenario neither of us will have a fun signature for a week. Unless one of us decides to make their signature fun voluntarily, which I may do given that I'm wildly unpredictable and I enjoy fun.


I think Diallo could start next year...at the 4, along with starting center Clifford.

I'm on board with this. Clifford gets abused because the next tallest person helping him in the paint is a 6'6" German who's 200 pounds soaking wet or a former volleyball player. Was basically playing 2 on 1 in there yesterday.

Did you watch any games this year? Clifford got abused because he is soft and rebounds continually clank off his hands. There is no chance Clifford and Diallo start next to each other. 0%.

[eepstein0]

I just watched Dennis Clifford get abused in the frontcourt. If Diallo can walk without falling down, he's better than Clifford. I'm holding out for Clifford declaring for the draft with Hanlan.

We need Clifford next year. Just not in the capacity he was used this year.

[TobaccoRoadEagle]

I just watched Dennis Clifford get abused in the frontcourt. If Diallo can walk without falling down, he's better than Clifford. I'm holding out for Clifford declaring for the draft with Hanlan.

We need Clifford next year. Just not in the capacity he was used this year.

unhealthy/less than 100%?

i think we all agree with that but none of us have the ability to help him heal any faster

[twballgame9]

I just watched Dennis Clifford get abused in the frontcourt. If Diallo can walk without falling down, he's better than Clifford. I'm holding out for Clifford declaring for the draft with Hanlan.

We need Clifford next year. Just not in the capacity he was used this year.

I was joking about the draft for both of them.

[twballgame9]

Hanlan is staying ...

exactly, and then funishment will have a fun signature for a week...

Under the terms of our bet, in that scenario neither of us will have a fun signature for a week. Unless one of us decides to make their signature fun voluntarily, which I may do given that I'm wildly unpredictable and I enjoy fun.


I think Diallo could start next year...at the 4, along with starting center Clifford.

I'm on board with this. Clifford gets abused because the next tallest person helping him in the paint is a 6'6" German who's 200 pounds soaking wet or a former volleyball player. Was basically playing 2 on 1 in there yesterday.

I'm sure he's a nice kid but Heckmann isn't the reason he's useless in the paint.

[eagle9903]

Clifford's return at full strength to is more important to this team than Hanlan's return.

[eepstein0]

Hanlan is staying ...

exactly, and then funishment will have a fun signature for a week...

Under the terms of our bet, in that scenario neither of us will have a fun signature for a week. Unless one of us decides to make their signature fun voluntarily, which I may do given that I'm wildly unpredictable and I enjoy fun.


I think Diallo could start next year...at the 4, along with starting center Clifford.

I'm on board with this. Clifford gets abused because the next tallest person helping him in the paint is a 6'6" German who's 200 pounds soaking wet or a former volleyball player. Was basically playing 2 on 1 in there yesterday.

I'm sure he's a nice kid but Heckmann isn't the reason he's useless in the paint.

Clifford needs to find the weight room this off season and work on quicker post moves.

[twballgame9]

Hanlan is staying ...

exactly, and then funishment will have a fun signature for a week...

Under the terms of our bet, in that scenario neither of us will have a fun signature for a week. Unless one of us decides to make their signature fun voluntarily, which I may do given that I'm wildly unpredictable and I enjoy fun.


I think Diallo could start next year...at the 4, along with starting center Clifford.

I'm on board with this. Clifford gets abused because the next tallest person helping him in the paint is a 6'6" German who's 200 pounds soaking wet or a former volleyball player. Was basically playing 2 on 1 in there yesterday.

I'm sure he's a nice kid but Heckmann isn't the reason he's useless in the paint.

Clifford needs to find the weight room this off season and work on quicker post moves.

Hand transplant might help too.

[Corporal Funishment]

Clifford was at a double disadvantage really ever since Magarity went down but especially in the last 2 games, because 1- he was facing waves of big men more or less by himself and 2- he had to err on the side of caution as foul trouble would have been a complete disaster. So while he got bullied around a bit with GT ripping the ball away from him, I don't think his defense was bad when you temper your expectations. You want to see bad, look at Odio in the UNC game: overcommitting comically to hedge the ballhandler while his man rolled completely open for a dunk at least twice, weak fouls that led to easy 3 point plays, that play where Odio was trying to guard Joel James with his back turned about 4 feet from the basket, etc.

[twballgame9]

Clifford was at a double disadvantage really ever since Magarity went down but especially in the last 2 games, because 1- he was facing waves of big men more or less by himself and 2- he had to err on the side of caution as foul trouble would have been a complete disaster. So while he got bullied around a bit with GT ripping the ball away from him, I don't think his defense was bad when you temper your expectations. You want to see bad, look at Odio in the UNC game: overcommitting comically to hedge the ballhandler while his man rolled completely open for a dunk at least twice, weak fouls that led to easy 3 point plays, that play where Odio was trying to guard Joel James with his back turned about 4 feet from the basket, etc.

you forgot 3- he's not very good.

[TobaccoRoadEagle]

Clifford was at a double disadvantage really ever since Magarity went down but especially in the last 2 games, because 1- he was facing waves of big men more or less by himself and 2- he had to err on the side of caution as foul trouble would have been a complete disaster. So while he got bullied around a bit with GT ripping the ball away from him, I don't think his defense was bad when you temper your expectations. You want to see bad, look at Odio in the UNC game: overcommitting comically to hedge the ballhandler while his man rolled completely open for a dunk at least twice, weak fouls that led to easy 3 point plays, that play where Odio was trying to guard Joel James with his back turned about 4 feet from the basket, etc.

you forgot 3- he's not very good.

because 3a - he's not 100% yet

[Corporal Funishment]

I don't think there's anything more predictable on this site than when anyone says anything remotely positive about Clifford (or heaven forbid, Lonnie Jackson) that one of the usual suspects (list 1) will feel the need to insist that he's terrible, then one of the usual suspects (list 2) will make a joke involving the usage of the phrase "one hundred percent."


Testing my theory: Hey did anyone notice that Clifford's acne cleared up quite a bit over the last four years. Good for him.

(Hint: This is where one of you says "Who cares his complexion is still terrible, marginal America East complexion at best" and then another of you says "It's a shame we never got to see his face at 100%")

[twballgame9]

I would argue that up until this season, there was nothing more predictable than fears that Hanlan would hit the draft after a good game.

This team is horrible, Corporal. Just don't see the need to pretend there is some glimmer of hope in the present talent, other than the likelihood that Hanlan returns. We were wrong about Clifford.