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Re: Playing for the Mob

PostPosted: Wed Oct 08, 2014 2:33 pm
by HJS
ATLeagle {l Wrote}:
Bryn Mawr Eagle {l Wrote}:Question: Given his own dirty laundry, why would a guy like Bruce Pearl appear in a film like this? If I'm his agent, I'd tell him to stay the hell away from appearing in any TV movie about the mob, gambling and violating NCAA rules. Some people coming to this story for the first time are going to watch that and mistakenly think he was somehow tangentially involved. Bad PR move, IMHO.


This was filmed when Hill was still alive, so I assume Pearl was still an ESPN employee at the time. He was probably paid to appear.

Note that they also used Lesley Visser (what happened?) and Mike Mayock.

All in all, I think BC came off looking fine. I also think that Rick Kuhn strangely came off as more a sympathetic character than Jim Sweeney.

Re: Playing for the Mob

PostPosted: Wed Oct 08, 2014 2:51 pm
by ATLeagle
Bryn Mawr Eagle {l Wrote}:
Dick Rosenthal {l Wrote}: He might be a bit of a racist too, because I for life of me can't figure out how your charge Ernie Cobb and not Lawrenceville Jimmy.



Glad I was not the only one who thought this. And the only guy I felt sympathy for was Bowie. I don't know the guy from Adam, but to have that news article out there initially implicating him when he had nothing to do with this thing must have been heartbreaking for him and his family.


Same thing happened to Kiernan Speight during the football gambling scandal. He played like shit against Pitt and everyone thought -- this guy has to be throwing the game. Turns out he was just a bad CB.

Re: Playing for the Mob

PostPosted: Wed Oct 08, 2014 2:58 pm
by twballgame9
ATLeagle {l Wrote}:
Bryn Mawr Eagle {l Wrote}:
Dick Rosenthal {l Wrote}: He might be a bit of a racist too, because I for life of me can't figure out how your charge Ernie Cobb and not Lawrenceville Jimmy.



Glad I was not the only one who thought this. And the only guy I felt sympathy for was Bowie. I don't know the guy from Adam, but to have that news article out there initially implicating him when he had nothing to do with this thing must have been heartbreaking for him and his family.


Same thing happened to Kiernan Speight during the football gambling scandal. He played like shit against Pitt and everyone thought -- this guy has to be throwing the game. Turns out he was just a bad CB.


If bad CB play is a sign of a gambling scandal, BC was shaving points for a very long time.

Re: Playing for the Mob

PostPosted: Wed Oct 08, 2014 3:34 pm
by HJS
MrAwesomeII {l Wrote}:I dont understand Jim & Maura Sweeney's problem with BC. What are they supposed to do for him?? Call him out of the crowd and celebrate him between quarters at a football game or something?? Despite his attempts to downplay his role, he was unquestionably a participant. Leaving everything else out of it, the purposeful foul out against Holy Cross is downright crooked and reason enough for the athletic department to keep a distance.

http://www.bcinterruption.com/bc-interr ... ve-at-8-pm
Hear it directly from the Sweeneys. Maura is crazytown.

Re: Playing for the Mob

PostPosted: Wed Oct 08, 2014 4:02 pm
by ATLeagle
talon {l Wrote}:
MrAwesomeII {l Wrote}:Leaving everything else out of it, the purposeful foul out against Holy Cross is downright crooked and reason enough for the athletic department to keep a distance.


That was a headscratcher for me. In order to avoid losing a game on purpose, he fouled out of a game on purpose. That's not an alibi; it's a confession.


I don't know why that wasn't challenged more by the director or by the FBI. A foul is a negative play that hurts BC. Fouling five times hurts BC five times. It also takes the starting point guard out of the game. If he really didn't want to be part of the game, he could fake an ankle sprain.

Re: Playing for the Mob

PostPosted: Wed Oct 08, 2014 5:00 pm
by claver2010
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:
ATLeagle {l Wrote}:
Bryn Mawr Eagle {l Wrote}:
Dick Rosenthal {l Wrote}: He might be a bit of a racist too, because I for life of me can't figure out how your charge Ernie Cobb and not Lawrenceville Jimmy.



Glad I was not the only one who thought this. And the only guy I felt sympathy for was Bowie. I don't know the guy from Adam, but to have that news article out there initially implicating him when he had nothing to do with this thing must have been heartbreaking for him and his family.


Same thing happened to Kiernan Speight during the football gambling scandal. He played like shit against Pitt and everyone thought -- this guy has to be throwing the game. Turns out he was just a bad CB.


If bad CB play is a sign of a gambling scandal, BC was shaving points for a very long time.


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Re: Playing for the Mob

PostPosted: Wed Oct 08, 2014 6:08 pm
by eepstein0
claver2010 {l Wrote}:
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:
ATLeagle {l Wrote}:
Bryn Mawr Eagle {l Wrote}:
Dick Rosenthal {l Wrote}: He might be a bit of a racist too, because I for life of me can't figure out how your charge Ernie Cobb and not Lawrenceville Jimmy.



Glad I was not the only one who thought this. And the only guy I felt sympathy for was Bowie. I don't know the guy from Adam, but to have that news article out there initially implicating him when he had nothing to do with this thing must have been heartbreaking for him and his family.


Same thing happened to Kiernan Speight during the football gambling scandal. He played like shit against Pitt and everyone thought -- this guy has to be throwing the game. Turns out he was just a bad CB.


If bad CB play is a sign of a gambling scandal, BC was shaving points for a very long time.


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This is my favorite comment of the year

Re: Playing for the Mob

PostPosted: Wed Oct 08, 2014 8:22 pm
by DuchesneEast
I am going to avoid a long story and sum it up because it sounds like an outtake of a bad Sopranos episode, but I played poker with a member of Maura's family in NJ and when I heard she was Sweeney's wife and put 2 and 2 together and all I said was "Wasnt he involved in the point shaving at BC" I got a lecture about him having nothing to do with it and Hill was a liar etc. So I think they may have lied so much to themselves and the family, they actually believe it.

I think the incident also made BC paranoid about organized crime on campus. I have heard a few stories about them overreacting to silly stuff, like football tickets.

I'll watch it this weekend, but if anyone hasnt seen Goodfellas, shame on you. Up until he goes overboard with the drugs, it is one of the best movies other. I saw it at Cleveland Circle.

Re: Playing for the Mob

PostPosted: Thu Oct 09, 2014 7:19 am
by claver2010
sweeney has not stopped the publicity tour since the film, has registered & posted on ATL & BCI

Re: Playing for the Mob

PostPosted: Thu Oct 09, 2014 8:32 am
by angrychicken
claver2010 {l Wrote}:sweeney has not stopped the publicity tour since the film, has registered & posted on ATL & BCI

Sad, but I can't say that I really blame the guy. One last grasp at whatever he's looking for. I don't know if it's money, fame, or some rediculous apology from BC that he's after, but, unfortunately for him, the story just isn't very compelling anymore.

Re: Playing for the Mob

PostPosted: Thu Oct 09, 2014 8:40 am
by commavegarage
angrychicken {l Wrote}:
claver2010 {l Wrote}:sweeney has not stopped the publicity tour since the film, has registered & posted on ATL & BCI

Sad, but I can't say that I really blame the guy. One last grasp at whatever he's looking for. I don't know if it's money, fame, or some rediculous apology from BC that he's after, but, unfortunately for him, the story just isn't very compelling anymore.


My question is whos gonna sign up as J1mSweeney here and how has it not happened already?

Re: Playing for the Mob

PostPosted: Thu Oct 09, 2014 8:42 am
by TobaccoRoadEagle
commavegarage {l Wrote}:
angrychicken {l Wrote}:
claver2010 {l Wrote}:sweeney has not stopped the publicity tour since the film, has registered & posted on ATL & BCI

Sad, but I can't say that I really blame the guy. One last grasp at whatever he's looking for. I don't know if it's money, fame, or some rediculous apology from BC that he's after, but, unfortunately for him, the story just isn't very compelling anymore.


My question is whos gonna sign up as J1mSweeney here and how has it not happened already?


the weener kisser {l Wrote}:...the story just isn't very compelling anymore.

Re: Playing for the Mob

PostPosted: Thu Oct 09, 2014 12:24 pm
by BCdee
We watched it last night and thought it was very entertaining.

- Felt horrible for Bowie
- Was surprised Mayock was Sweeney's roommate
- What the heck to Leslie Visser do to her face?

Re: Playing for the Mob

PostPosted: Thu Oct 09, 2014 3:37 pm
by BIGDUKE6
BCdee {l Wrote}:We watched it last night and thought it was very entertaining.

- Felt horrible for Bowie
- Was surprised Mayock was Sweeney's roommate
- What the heck to Leslie Visser do to her face?

Was that Lesley Visser or Nancy Pelosi ?

Re: Playing for the Mob

PostPosted: Tue Oct 14, 2014 10:15 am
by MaroonNGold
Dick Rosenthal {l Wrote}:As I said, Kuhn's story is much more believeable and logical. You know who was also a fucking scumbag? Ed McDonald, the Prosecutor. He is a publicity whore of the highest magnitude--right down to penning a tribute to Henry Hill in the NY Post after he died. Eddie sure does like the limelight, which he only could have had if he nailed Jimmy the Gent to the wall and it was certainly a lot easier to nail Jimmy the Gent to the wall when he had a nice, squeaky clean Rhodes Scholar candidate on the witness stand. He might be a bit of a racist too, because I for life of me can't figure out how your charge Ernie Cobb and not Lawrenceville Jimmy.

Everyone in this story sucks on some level.

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Well, we now have been enlightened that Rosey does not let truth impede his hurling baseless insults at a fellow alum.

Knowing Ed McDonald, I can report that IMHO he is neither a "publicity whore" nor a "racist" ( the term du jour often leveled irresponsibly, by the bye). To the contrary, he handled a personally painful matter with the professionalism we expect, but don't always get, from public officials.

Too, Ed did what he ethically could to soften the blow for BC.

And Father Monan addressed the matter with the integrity and honor for which he was known throughout his exemplary presidency.

Finally, while I don't know why Sweeney was not charged and Cobb was, those decisions, I assume, always depend on what the available evidence and attending facts were as to each - something no TV producer normally knows.

So, we're all in no position to responsibly say that the Justice Dept. got this one wrong.

Re: Playing for the Mob

PostPosted: Tue Oct 14, 2014 11:18 am
by TobaccoRoadEagle
fuckin a... roonie's back!!!! just when jiggles was about to walk away with the uncontested 2014 asshat of the year prize

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Re: Playing for the Mob

PostPosted: Tue Oct 14, 2014 7:57 pm
by MaroonNGold
TobaccoRoadEagle {l Wrote}:fuckin a... roonie's back!!!! just when jiggles was about to walk away with the uncontested 2014 asshat of the year prize

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ANOTHER substantive reply by the Tobacco Man!

Re: Playing for the Mob

PostPosted: Wed Oct 15, 2014 8:54 am
by Bryn Mawr Eagle
MaroonNGold {l Wrote}:Knowing Ed McDonald, . . .


Next time you see him, please ask him why Cobb was charged but Sweeney was not. I'm also interested in why Cobb was charged later than the others - I don't think they addressed that in the 30 for 30 piece. Thanks.

Re: Playing for the Mob

PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2014 9:18 pm
by MaroonNGold
[quote="commavegarage"]Admittedly a nerd and haven't seen goodfellas so this was my first true exposure to it.

My take away is: Eff Sweeney, I don't buy his bullshit for a second. And good for BC for not giving him the time of day.[/quote

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Let's pause for a moment to reflect on reality:

BC shuns Jim Sweeney even now, 35 years after the point shaving event.

Yet BC constantly embraced Ted Kennedy, whose life placed him in no danger of canonization, to put it charitably.

LESSON LEARNED: Next time you see that halftime TV tape with the sanctimonious claim that BC is a "Catholic, Jesuit" school, better have the barf bag at the ready!

Re: Playing for the Mob

PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2014 9:24 pm
by angrychicken
MaroonNGold {l Wrote}:
commavegarage {l Wrote}:Admittedly a nerd and haven't seen goodfellas so this was my first true exposure to it.

My take away is: Eff Sweeney, I don't buy his bullshit for a second. And good for BC for not giving him the time of day.[/quote

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Let's pause for a moment to reflect on reality:

BC shuns Jim Sweeney even now, 35 years after the point shaving event.

Yet BC constantly embraced Ted Kennedy, whose life placed him in no danger of canonization, to put it charitably.

LESSON LEARNED: Next time you see that halftime TV tape with the sanctimonious claim that BC is a "Catholic, Jesuit" school, better have the barf bag at the ready!

At least you're being a little more honest now.

Re: Playing for the Mob

PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2014 9:01 am
by AdamBC
angrychicken {l Wrote}:
MaroonNGold {l Wrote}:
commavegarage {l Wrote}:Admittedly a nerd and haven't seen goodfellas so this was my first true exposure to it.

My take away is: Eff Sweeney, I don't buy his bullshit for a second. And good for BC for not giving him the time of day.[/quote

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Let's pause for a moment to reflect on reality:

BC shuns Jim Sweeney even now, 35 years after the point shaving event.

Yet BC constantly embraced Ted Kennedy, whose life placed him in no danger of canonization, to put it charitably.

LESSON LEARNED: Next time you see that halftime TV tape with the sanctimonious claim that BC is a "Catholic, Jesuit" school, better have the barf bag at the ready!

At least you're being a little more honest now.


Still can't quote text for shit, tho.

Re: Playing for the Mob

PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2014 9:07 am
by angrychicken
AdamBC {l Wrote}:
angrychicken {l Wrote}:
MaroonNGold {l Wrote}:
commavegarage {l Wrote}:Admittedly a nerd and haven't seen goodfellas so this was my first true exposure to it.

My take away is: Eff Sweeney, I don't buy his bullshit for a second. And good for BC for not giving him the time of day.[/quote

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Let's pause for a moment to reflect on reality:

BC shuns Jim Sweeney even now, 35 years after the point shaving event.

Yet BC constantly embraced Ted Kennedy, whose life placed him in no danger of canonization, to put it charitably.

LESSON LEARNED: Next time you see that halftime TV tape with the sanctimonious claim that BC is a "Catholic, Jesuit" school, better have the barf bag at the ready!

At least you're being a little more honest now.


Still can't quote text for shit, tho.

Much like Al couldn't learn an inbounds play, roonie can't learn to quote. Turds in pleather...

Re: Playing for the Mob

PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2014 5:47 pm
by MaroonNGold
Unsurprisingly, our self-esteemed posters Chicken and Adam, unable to dispute facts, revert to irrelevance and insult.

Pathetic.

And, oh, yeah, Chicken: Care to compare Al's record with the crash-and-burn W-L stats of the four years since he left?

Must distress you to remember that BC once had a varsity basketball program, eh?

But don't let me deter you from hustling on down to Conte to scarf up your season tickets for what promises to be a "noteworthy" year under the latest BC coach of inconsequence.

Re: Playing for the Mob

PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2014 6:31 pm
by angrychicken
MaroonNGold {l Wrote}:Unsurprisingly, our self-esteemed posters Chicken and Adam, unable to dispute facts, revert to irrelevance and insult.

Pathetic.

And, oh, yeah, Chicken: Care to compare Al's record with the crash-and-burn W-L stats of the four years since he left?

Must distress you to remember that BC once had a varsity basketball program, eh?

But don't let me deter you from hustling on down to Conte to scarf up your season tickets for what promises to be a "noteworthy" year under the latest BC coach of inconsequence.

What the heck, mister? I was giving you a compliment on your honesty. Sheesh. Some people!

Re: Playing for the Mob

PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2014 7:24 pm
by twballgame9
angrychicken {l Wrote}:
MaroonNGold {l Wrote}:Unsurprisingly, our self-esteemed posters Chicken and Adam, unable to dispute facts, revert to irrelevance and insult.

Pathetic.

And, oh, yeah, Chicken: Care to compare Al's record with the crash-and-burn W-L stats of the four years since he left?

Must distress you to remember that BC once had a varsity basketball program, eh?

But don't let me deter you from hustling on down to Conte to scarf up your season tickets for what promises to be a "noteworthy" year under the latest BC coach of inconsequence.

What the heck, mister? I was giving you a compliment on your honesty. Sheesh. Some people!



Gee willigers

Re: Playing for the Mob

PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2014 9:33 pm
by DavidGordonsFoot
Finally got around to watching this. Law enforcement aside, Bowie was the only person who appeared in the documentary whom I totally believed. I give Cobb credit for beating the charges, but I don't think he was completely honest.

Re: Playing for the Mob

PostPosted: Sat Oct 18, 2014 6:36 pm
by MaroonNGold
angrychicken {l Wrote}:
MaroonNGold {l Wrote}:Unsurprisingly, our self-esteemed posters Chicken and Adam, unable to dispute facts, revert to irrelevance and insult.

Pathetic.

And, oh, yeah, Chicken: Care to compare Al's record with the crash-and-burn W-L stats of the four years since he left?

Must distress you to remember that BC once had a varsity basketball program, eh?

But don't let me deter you from hustling on down to Conte to scarf up your season tickets for what promises to be a "noteworthy" year under the latest BC coach of inconsequence.

What the heck, mister? I was giving you a compliment on your honesty. Sheesh. Some people!

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Chicken

Looks like I owe you an apology for misreading your first post.

Not for your shot at Coach Skinner, however.

Peace.