New & Official Coaching Candidates Thread

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Re: New & Official Coaching Candidates Thread

Postby bluefishskip on Tue Mar 18, 2014 1:57 pm

Failed at Seton Hall may have been a little harsh, but i wouldn't say he was overly successful either. Never finished better than 5th in BE, rode Eddie Griffin to the 2nd weekend of the tournament in their only NCAA appearance.
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Re: New & Official Coaching Candidates Thread

Postby DavidGordonsFoot on Tue Mar 18, 2014 1:57 pm

pick6pedro wrote:The University of Central Florida's Institute for Diversity and Ethics in Sport said in its report Monday that eight teams that made the 2014 men's bracket fall below the NCAA-mandated Academic Progress Rate score of 930, equivalent to a 50 percent graduation rate.

Currently, teams scoring below a 925 APR can lose up to 10 percent of their scholarships. Teams can also be subject to penalties for poor academic performance over time.

Teams in this year's field that would be subject to NCAA-imposed sanctions that could keep them from postseason play are: Cal Poly (925), Coastal Carolina (921), North Carolina Central (903), Oklahoma State (928), Providence (915), Texas Southern (900), Connecticut (897) and Oregon (918).


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Re: New & Official Coaching Candidates Thread

Postby eaglesfan06 on Tue Mar 18, 2014 1:58 pm

EagleDave wrote:BC already floating Amaker to the media to gauge public reaction. Incredible.


Relax. People said the same thing after the Thamel story....
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Re: New & Official Coaching Candidates Thread

Postby eepstein0 on Tue Mar 18, 2014 1:58 pm

Amaker is awful. No thanks.
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Re: New & Official Coaching Candidates Thread

Postby commavegarage on Tue Mar 18, 2014 2:00 pm

EagleDave wrote:BC already floating Amaker to the media to gauge public reaction. Incredible.


I don't think that's what's going on here.
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Re: New & Official Coaching Candidates Thread

Postby eaglesfan06 on Tue Mar 18, 2014 2:04 pm

Howland is the kind of guy BC needs to win. Hopefully they put the full court press on him.
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Re: New & Official Coaching Candidates Thread

Postby tallsy on Tue Mar 18, 2014 2:09 pm

Lonergan seems like the logical candidate if Howland doesn't happen. After that, your looking at a weak field: Cluess, Amaker, Hopkins. Maybe you can gauge if Tyndall would work outside the greater South. Since the Daz hire shows age doesn't matter, I would still take a look at Dambrot.

For political reasons, Mike White will get a courtesy "interview."
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Re: New & Official Coaching Candidates Thread

Postby pick6pedro on Tue Mar 18, 2014 2:11 pm

commavegarage wrote:
EagleDave wrote:BC already floating Amaker to the media to gauge public reaction. Incredible.


I don't think that's what's going on here.


Agreed. The Globe is busy reporting on the Sox players in danger from the hounds with bees in their mouths so everytime they bark at them they shoot bees at them.
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Re: New & Official Coaching Candidates Thread

Postby GreenvilleEagle on Tue Mar 18, 2014 2:15 pm

I'm hearing Kevin Mackey or Paul Biancardi.
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Re: New & Official Coaching Candidates Thread

Postby commavegarage on Tue Mar 18, 2014 2:16 pm

Seth Davis' top early names:

Tommy Amaker, Mike Hopkins, Derek Kellogg
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Re: New & Official Coaching Candidates Thread

Postby twballgame9 on Tue Mar 18, 2014 2:26 pm

Paul Biancardi? Jesus.
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Re: New & Official Coaching Candidates Thread

Postby HJS on Tue Mar 18, 2014 2:34 pm

DavidGordonsFoot wrote:The only reason I'll hold out hope if they hire Amaker is the fact that he is still only 49 years old. He was 36 when he took the Michigan job, and has 17 years of HC experience, which is insane for a guy still in his 40s. Short of the academic scandal (which extended beyond the basketball team), I can't knock his tenure at Harvard. It is possible that he has learned and adapted since the Michigan disaster.

Funny... I was thinking that a knock on Amaker is that he's already 49.
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Re: New & Official Coaching Candidates Thread

Postby BostonChillage on Tue Mar 18, 2014 2:48 pm

Cadillac90 wrote:I'll throw my list out there for people to ask what I am smoking. Keep in mind, four years ago despite being devastated that the little fucker DeFilippo fired my hubby, I thought the best candidate at the time was Lon Krueger.

Ben Howland
Mark Few
Greg Marshall
Mike Lonergan
Jeff Capel


I would love Few but there is no way he is leaving Gonzaga. Major programs have been courting him for a decade now.
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Re: New & Official Coaching Candidates Thread

Postby b0mberMan on Tue Mar 18, 2014 2:54 pm

So I feel the sentiment here is that Bates is going to make a mediocre hire. Where is that coming from? Is it the definition that anything not Pearl or Howland = mediocre?

I feel like most everyone is happy or at least more happy than not happy with the football hire one year in. Does that give Bates any goodwill in the process here?
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Re: New & Official Coaching Candidates Thread

Postby HJS on Tue Mar 18, 2014 2:57 pm

b0mberMan wrote:So I feel the sentiment here is that Bates is going to make a mediocre hire. Where is that coming from? Is it the definition that anything not Pearl or Howland = mediocre?

It comes from him being employed by BC.
Neither Pearl or Howland would be a mediocre hire... which is why we are landing neither.
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Re: New & Official Coaching Candidates Thread

Postby commavegarage on Tue Mar 18, 2014 2:59 pm

I don't think he's going to make a mediocre hire.

I'm expecting good things.

And I'm not even fully on the adaziani train yet.

Lets be real here - master has done everything that could have been expected of him so far.

1. Needed to fire football coach. Did it.
2. Needed a replacement to succeed. Got him.
3. Needed to fire the basketball coach. Did it.

Non hiring firing related:
Engaged with alums via town halls.
Always willing to speak with people at games, events, etc.
Always responsive to emails / feedback.

And FWIW, now former players (recent grads) speak incredibly highly of him.
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Re: New & Official Coaching Candidates Thread

Postby TobaccoRoadEagle on Tue Mar 18, 2014 3:37 pm

eaglesfan06 wrote:
EagleDave wrote:BC already floating Amaker to the media to gauge public reaction. Incredible.


Relax. People said the same thing after the Thamel story....

this

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Re: New & Official Coaching Candidates Thread

Postby thebigskinny31 on Tue Mar 18, 2014 3:41 pm

If Mike Hoppkins is good enough to be the "coach in waiting" at Cuse then shouldnt BC make a power move & hire him? Write a fat check
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Re: New & Official Coaching Candidates Thread

Postby commavegarage on Tue Mar 18, 2014 3:42 pm

thebigskinny31 wrote:If Mike Hoppkins is good enough to be the "coach in waiting" at Cuse then shouldnt BC make a power move & hire him? Write a fat check


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Re: New & Official Coaching Candidates Thread

Postby thebigskinny31 on Tue Mar 18, 2014 3:45 pm

commavegarage wrote:
thebigskinny31 wrote:If Mike Hoppkins is good enough to be the "coach in waiting" at Cuse then shouldnt BC make a power move & hire him? Write a fat check


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Actual odds that same thing happens again?
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Re: New & Official Coaching Candidates Thread

Postby commavegarage on Tue Mar 18, 2014 3:50 pm

Guess I have to spell it out for you.

1. Coach in waiting =/= a good fit for a different program.
2. Coach in waiting at a program where the players don't need to be able to read =/= good fit for BC
3. Coach in waiting at a program that has it's coach dismiss the notion of sexual assault of minors and the program subsequently doesn't say a word about it =/= good fit for BC
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Re: New & Official Coaching Candidates Thread

Postby DavidGordonsFoot on Tue Mar 18, 2014 3:54 pm

TobaccoRoadEagle wrote:by the way, i predict sgt slaughter part ii. a "non-flashy" name gets announced and the boo birds sing from their coop for a few months


I'm warming up for 8 months of complaining.
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Re: New & Official Coaching Candidates Thread

Postby DavidGordonsFoot on Tue Mar 18, 2014 3:55 pm

twballgame9 wrote:Paul Biancardi? Jesus.


Yeah, if this is the alternative, then "Welcome to the Heights, Coach Amaker!"
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Re: New & Official Coaching Candidates Thread

Postby commavegarage on Tue Mar 18, 2014 3:57 pm

fwiw...most people (reporters) saying they'd be shocked if amaker left Harvard for bc.
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Re: New & Official Coaching Candidates Thread

Postby commavegarage on Tue Mar 18, 2014 3:58 pm

meanwhile, mr. fightgoescontinues dropping knowledge bombs:

"Maybe BC and Harvard can work out a deal. Amaker to BC, Donahue to Harvard"
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Re: New & Official Coaching Candidates Thread

Postby ATLeagle on Tue Mar 18, 2014 4:02 pm

Biancardi getting floated is someone throwing him a favor. If BC wouldn't go after Pearl because of an illegal bbq, what do you think would happen once Biancardi's Ohio State dirty work floated up. Remember HBO had recruits telling Bryant Gumble that Biancardi was in charge of cash and changing grades.

I still fear Amaker. If we are going on just recruiting I would rather have Cooley.
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Re: New & Official Coaching Candidates Thread

Postby NJM89 on Tue Mar 18, 2014 4:05 pm

A lot of talk about Mark Scmidt on twitter. Don't know much about him but I'm sure most people wouldn't want him?
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Re: New & Official Coaching Candidates Thread

Postby DavidGordonsFoot on Tue Mar 18, 2014 4:09 pm

commavegarage wrote:fwiw...most people (reporters) saying they'd be shocked if amaker left Harvard for bc.


I saw Andy Katz say this, but I did not agree with his justification. He said that Harvard is a top 2-3 job in the Ivy and wouldn't make sense for Amaker to take a bottom-half job in the ACC. If this were true, coaches would never make the jump from mid-majors.
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Re: New & Official Coaching Candidates Thread

Postby DuchesneEast on Tue Mar 18, 2014 4:10 pm

NJM89 wrote:A lot of talk about Mark Scmidt on twitter. Don't know much about him but I'm sure most people wouldn't want him?


Ex-St Bonaventure guys? I cant get enough of them.
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Re: New & Official Coaching Candidates Thread

Postby ATLeagle on Tue Mar 18, 2014 4:10 pm

Amaker would take the job. No question.
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