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Re: New & Official Coaching Candidates Thread

PostPosted: Wed Apr 03, 2019 6:14 pm
by twballgame9
Villanova law threw money around like BC law threw waitlists. BC should worry more about keeping up with BU.

Re: New & Official Coaching Candidates Thread

PostPosted: Wed Apr 03, 2019 6:56 pm
by BostonCollege1
HJS {l Wrote}:We may be regressing, but there is now way we slipped all the way behind Villanova (with all due respect to the alleged claims of a daughter of a friend of an anonymous message board poster).

Anecdotally, Chris "Mad Dog" Russo was on the radio recently BLASTING BC and Holy Cross for waitlisting his daughter (and rejected from USC). She got into Wake and had money from her safety school... (wait for it) Villanova. His daughter wanted to reapply to BC with a new essay and her most recent grades and he said, "Over my dead body!" So, she is going to Wake.
https://soundcloud.com/maddogsportsradio


I know someone whose kid just got into BC, Wake, Villanova and a few others. BC is not a lock to be the final choice. One of the considerations, after academics, is athletics. One of the downsides to BC that was mentioned was the cost/value proposition, especially if they could save money for grad school by spending less elsewhere. Maybe BC should again remember that exciting athletics do matter to teenagers and that parents don’t care if BC has various highly-regarded think-tanks and Centers on the study of retirement, etc. Monan understood this. Seems that the current administration doesn’t.

Re: New & Official Coaching Candidates Thread

PostPosted: Wed Apr 03, 2019 8:21 pm
by twballgame9
If the kid goes to nova he deserves it.

Re: New & Official Coaching Candidates Thread

PostPosted: Wed Apr 03, 2019 8:35 pm
by HJS
BC, Wake and Villanova... and the kid is looking at each based on athletics as a factor??? Well, then BC is a no-brainer because (a) Nova is only has one sport and (b) Wake is about the only Power 5 school we are superior to in BB and FB.

This is such a dumb conversation. Isn’t it enough that we are frustrated with Leahy because he has no intention of ever giving athletics the support (financial and otherwise) every other ACC program gets? Why do folks feel the need to manufacture further outrage by creating fictional scenarios? Everything being the worst thing ever to happen ever is just such an exhausting trope that it muddles the valid arguments.

Re: New & Official Coaching Candidates Thread

PostPosted: Thu Apr 04, 2019 8:07 am
by Onyx Blackman
My cousin got into BC and IUPUI and got waitlisted at Northeastern Night School. He's not even considering BC right now.

Re: New & Official Coaching Candidates Thread

PostPosted: Thu Apr 04, 2019 8:11 am
by claver2010
apparently VT's 2 favorites are the leprechaun at natti light & willard at seton hall

Re: New & Official Coaching Candidates Thread

PostPosted: Thu Apr 04, 2019 9:11 am
by HJS
Onyx Blackman {l Wrote}:My cousin got into BC and IUPUI and got waitlisted at Northeastern Night School. He's not even considering BC right now.

My god son got into Boston College and Monmouth last year (while getting waitlisted at his first choice, Ramapo). He chose to got to school in Long Branch because their basketball team has a more entertaining bench and they have ping pong tables in the student center. BC's bench is boring and the school doesn't even have a student center! Really... what more will it take for the Board to step in and remove Fr. Bill???

Re: New & Official Coaching Candidates Thread

PostPosted: Thu Apr 04, 2019 10:18 am
by twballgame9
Fantastic Ramapo reference.

Re: New & Official Coaching Candidates Thread

PostPosted: Thu Apr 04, 2019 3:12 pm
by BostonCollege1
HJS {l Wrote}:BC, Wake and Villanova... and the kid is looking at each based on athletics as a factor??? Well, then BC is a no-brainer because (a) Nova is only has one sport and (b) Wake is about the only Power 5 school we are superior to in BB and FB.

This is such a dumb conversation. Isn’t it enough that we are frustrated with Leahy because he has no intention of ever giving athletics the support (financial and otherwise) every other ACC program gets? Why do folks feel the need to manufacture further outrage by creating fictional scenarios? Everything being the worst thing ever to happen ever is just such an exhausting trope that it muddles the valid arguments.


I'm not creating a fictional scenario, and never said everything is the worst thing ever. The kid is also looking at honors programs at some state schools. Athletics is not the primary factor, but one of them. It's definitely given Villanova more recognition - the number of applications they received jumped 22% after they won the national championship. No different than the Flutie factor. My points are: A. Sports do matter (at least a little) to teenagers, who are the primary audience for universities; and 2. BC, like a number of non-Ivy schools costing over $70k/year, is perceived by many to not be providing a great value for the cost.

Tell me that no one who's on this board didn't consider athletics at least a little when looking at schools as a 17 year old (besides TRE, who hates sports).

Re: New & Official Coaching Candidates Thread

PostPosted: Thu Apr 04, 2019 10:22 pm
by twballgame9
BostonCollege1 {l Wrote}:
HJS {l Wrote}:BC, Wake and Villanova... and the kid is looking at each based on athletics as a factor??? Well, then BC is a no-brainer because (a) Nova is only has one sport and (b) Wake is about the only Power 5 school we are superior to in BB and FB.

This is such a dumb conversation. Isn’t it enough that we are frustrated with Leahy because he has no intention of ever giving athletics the support (financial and otherwise) every other ACC program gets? Why do folks feel the need to manufacture further outrage by creating fictional scenarios? Everything being the worst thing ever to happen ever is just such an exhausting trope that it muddles the valid arguments.


I'm not creating a fictional scenario, and never said everything is the worst thing ever. The kid is also looking at honors programs at some state schools. Athletics is not the primary factor, but one of them. It's definitely given Villanova more recognition - the number of applications they received jumped 22% after they won the national championship. No different than the Flutie factor. My points are: A. Sports do matter (at least a little) to teenagers, who are the primary audience for universities; and 2. BC, like a number of non-Ivy schools costing over $70k/year, is perceived by many to not be providing a great value for the cost.

Tell me that no one who's on this board didn't consider athletics at least a little when looking at schools as a 17 year old (besides TRE, who hates sports).


That kid is a moron.

Re: New & Official Coaching Candidates Thread

PostPosted: Fri Apr 05, 2019 8:44 am
by Dick Rosenthal
Newsflash: 17 year olds are morons. Even the smart ones. And if you don’t think athletics matter in terms of selectivity understand that 60 years ago Notre Dame was a lowly-rated school that competed for students with DePaul or that 40 years ago BC was a glorified commuter school with a smattering of kids from NY/NJ.

BC isn’t going to implode academically because of Leahy’s hatred of athletics, but if you don’t think athletic success in the one of the two major revenue sports doesn’t matter than you are probably a 65 year old Georgetown grad wondering how Notre Dame walked past you in the rankings or a similarly situated Holy Cross grad wondering why BC is now a noticeably better school than Worcester Jesuit.

Re: New & Official Coaching Candidates Thread

PostPosted: Sun Apr 07, 2019 5:16 pm
by innocentbystander
Onyx Blackman {l Wrote}:My cousin got into BC and IUPUI and got waitlisted at Northeastern Night School.


I'm on the selection committee. Don't worry he's in. I fast tracked him.

Re: New & Official Coaching Candidates Thread

PostPosted: Mon Apr 08, 2019 10:10 am
by HJS
innocentbystander {l Wrote}:
Onyx Blackman {l Wrote}:My cousin got into BC and IUPUI and got waitlisted at Northeastern Night School.


I'm on the selection committee. Don't worry he's in. I fast tracked him.

I believe that IB is on the selection committee... which shows you what I think of Northeastern.

Re: New & Official Coaching Candidates Thread

PostPosted: Mon Apr 08, 2019 11:54 am
by Onyx Blackman
Thanks, IB. This is a dream come true for him. He wants to major in VCR repair and Northeastern's program is second to none.

Re: New & Official Coaching Candidates Thread

PostPosted: Mon Apr 08, 2019 12:41 pm
by innocentbystander
Onyx Blackman {l Wrote}:Thanks, IB. This is a dream come true for him. He wants to major in VCR repair and Northeastern's program is second to none.


In all seriousness, I've gone to a couple alumni events here in Phoenix. There just aren't all that many Huskies in Phoenix, either that or they all want to fly under the radar the way I have. And the few alumni that I have met, I'm typically the only one who went evenings.

I'll be the first to admit that you aren't going to get all that much out of the evening program other than a cheaper piece of paper than the day students paid top dollar to get. But if you are married with kids and you want to finish that degree, the evening program works out quite well. They really work with the students when they have conflicts in attending class or whatever else. Its not for everyone but it was for me.

Re: New & Official Coaching Candidates Thread

PostPosted: Tue Apr 09, 2019 12:17 pm
by HJS
Marriage of convenience alert! Cronin (who seemed overly anxious to leave his alma mater) found someone to pay the buyout, but that is only after UCLA put up a Chris-Davis-like streak of strikeouts.

Re: New & Official Coaching Candidates Thread

PostPosted: Tue Apr 09, 2019 9:18 pm
by eepstein0
HJS {l Wrote}:Marriage of convenience alert! Cronin (who seemed overly anxious to leave his alma mater) found someone to pay the buyout, but that is only after UCLA put up a Chris-Davis-like streak of strikeouts.


There’s another good candidate off my list

Re: New & Official Coaching Candidates Thread

PostPosted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 7:28 am
by claver2010
is st. johns a better job than asu for hurley?

outside of getting back east i don't see it

Re: New & Official Coaching Candidates Thread

PostPosted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 9:29 am
by 2001Eagle
claver2010 {l Wrote}:is st. johns a better job than asu for hurley?

outside of getting back east i don't see it


Needed to get away from no space

Re: New & Official Coaching Candidates Thread

PostPosted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 10:12 am
by innocentbystander
2001Eagle {l Wrote}:
claver2010 {l Wrote}:is st. johns a better job than asu for hurley?

outside of getting back east i don't see it


Needed to get away from no space


even I laughed. +5

Re: New & Official Coaching Candidates Thread

PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2019 8:48 am
by claver2010
after getting turned down by UMBC, loyola chicago, iona, etc coaches, sounds like a rant a GASSON LEVEL DONOR would make about BC

hits:
1) president needs to go
2) board is a bunch of yes men
3) school handcuffing ad

https://wfan.radio.com/articles/news/bi ... ing-search

Re: New & Official Coaching Candidates Thread

PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2019 9:12 am
by HJS
So much for a lay president curing all ills.
https://www.stjohns.edu/about/leadershi ... -biography

Re: New & Official Coaching Candidates Thread

PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2019 7:32 pm
by Manny
I wonder if there's a disturbed fan on a St. John's message board making scummy insinuations about his sexuality.

Re: New & Official Coaching Candidates Thread

PostPosted: Tue Apr 30, 2019 10:44 am
by claver2010
interesting look at ucla's cluster of a search:

https://www.latimes.com/sports/ucla/la- ... story.html

Re: New & Official Coaching Candidates Thread

PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2019 7:50 am
by claver2010
cooley interviewed for the michigan job yesterday

michigan is using gene's search firm

small, incestuous world

Re: New & Official Coaching Candidates Thread

PostPosted: Wed May 22, 2019 12:55 am
by Bender
I don't understand why anyone would hire Gene's consulting group given the way he destroyed BC sports before he left.

He did apparently help Cooley get a new contract at Providence by giving him the interview which is nice because Cooley seems like a good guy but just seeing that Gene was in hired to head the search and then watching Jeff Goodman pump up Gene on twitter made my blood boil.

Re: New & Official Coaching Candidates Thread

PostPosted: Wed May 22, 2019 8:27 am
by 2001Eagle
Bender {l Wrote}:I don't understand why anyone would hire Gene's consulting group given the way he destroyed BC sports before he left.

He did apparently help Cooley get a new contract at Providence by giving him the interview which is nice because Cooley seems like a good guy but just seeing that Gene was in hired to head the search and then watching Jeff Goodman pump up Gene on twitter made my blood boil.


Same.

Love this UM website shredding Gene and calling him out for being terrible:

https://www.mgoblog.com/content/searchb ... about-bunk

Re: New & Official Coaching Candidates Thread

PostPosted: Wed May 22, 2019 4:38 pm
by BCSUPERFAN22
Cooley is living the dream. He was insanely overpaid before this Michigan episode($2mm +) and got a pay bump/extension out of it. I was shocked Michigan even considered him based on his lack of tournament success and fairly mediocre overall record at PC. Now he basically has a JoePa type lifetime employment guarantee at PC and he has really done nothing, good for him.

Re: New & Official Coaching Candidates Thread

PostPosted: Wed Nov 13, 2019 1:10 pm
by HJS
HJS on Wed Apr 02, 2014 9:55 am {l Wrote}:Emergency list of candidates who would talk the job on a moment's notice that are better than Jim Christian:

Tim O'Shea
Bill Coen
Al Skinner
Joe Jones
Pat Skerry
Walter McCarty
Mark Schmidt

Consider this list in lieu of my annual donation (which means I deserve Tower Builder status for the next 6 years).

Waltah with a big win last night.
https://www.boston.com/sports/college-s ... er-mccarty

Re: New & Official Coaching Candidates Thread

PostPosted: Mon Nov 18, 2019 12:58 pm
by 2001Eagle
What about John Becker at Vermont?

Has done a great job with that program.