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HJS {l Wrote}:

BC923 {l Wrote}:Howard Eisley is an assistant for the Knicks these days, is there any chance he might ever want to come back?

I think Eisley would take the job. So would Jared. We could do a hell of a lot worse than either of those guys. However, there is a significant question as to their ability to recruit and navigate the AAU scene.

HJS {l Wrote}:For $2-3mm a year all up-and-coming coaches would take on BC (accept maybe 2 coaches). But, that's it. The reason is that (a) if they win at BC, they will be able to land any job in America and (b) they make bank while inflating their rep.

twballgame9 {l Wrote}:Good college basketball coaches don't often contemplate their own failure

Corporal Funishment {l Wrote}:

twballgame9 {l Wrote}:Good college basketball coaches don't often contemplate their own failure

Then explain why Gregg Marshall isn't at Alabama and Archie Miller didn't make a pit stop at NC State. It would have been more money. It's risk aversion - why risk failing somewhere else when you can win where you are and get to the top just the same?

jhiggi02 {l Wrote}:

twballgame9 {l Wrote}:With the exception of a very few exceptions, BC could be in play for most mid major coaches du jour if they are willing to part with cash. Most will believe that can win in short order and that that will solve any recruiting/attendance issues. And they'd be right.

Earlier you said that maybe Archie Miller or Chris Mack would have come to BC, and while anything could have theoretically happened I think the facts make it clear that it would have been highly unlikely for either to come to BC, but this is just pedantry at this point. Its neither here nor there.

Again, my qualms are not with the statement you just made, which I think is accurate. Successful coaches normally have enough self confidence that they think they can win almost anywhere, and most P5 schools are a great opportunity. I originally got involved in this because of the copious amounts of asshatery Epy displayed by pointing out 2 of the few exceptions out there when musing about who BC could/should have hired.** The point he is making is not wrong (so long as it is the same as your point), the examples he uses to make said point are just woefully inadequate and detract from it.

And to further bolster your point, I am sure that Buzz Williams would have looked long and hard at BC if they had made a run at him a few years back.

**Archie Miller Turned Down NCSU and apparently Pitt, Texas and Florida.

http://www.thechampaignroom.com/2017/2/ ... e-hot-seat

**Chris Mack Turned Down Tennessee and California

http://www.wcpo.com/sports/college-spor ... ant-refuse

2001Eagle {l Wrote}:Donahue was an up and coming coach du-jour when BC hired him. At that point, BC was an attractive coaching destination.

eepstein0 {l Wrote}:

2001Eagle {l Wrote}:Donahue was an up and coming coach du-jour when BC hired him. At that point, BC was an attractive coaching destination.

BC still is an attractive destination. It wouldn't take much for a real basketball coach to fix this basketball program

Corporal Funishment {l Wrote}:

twballgame9 {l Wrote}:Good college basketball coaches don't often contemplate their own failure

Then explain why Gregg Marshall isn't at Alabama and Archie Miller didn't make a pit stop at NC State. It would have been more money. It's risk aversion - why risk failing somewhere else when you can win where you are and get to the top just the same?

flyingelvii {l Wrote}:Two of those examples are completely fucktarded.

jhiggi02 {l Wrote}:

eepstein0 {l Wrote}:My point was in reference to when we hired JC.

I still think BC could have Chris Mack for $3-$3.5 million

You have to take off the maroon colored glasses.

Mack just turned down 4 mill from georgetown

http://www.espn.com/espn/now?nowId=21-0 ... 62443374-4

"Georgetown put out strong feelers to Xavier's Chris Mack at $4 million per year, source told ESPN. Mack staying at Xavier."

jhiggi02 {l Wrote}:

HJS {l Wrote}:

jhiggi02 {l Wrote}:

eepstein0 {l Wrote}:My point was in reference to when we hired JC.

I still think BC could have Chris Mack for $3-$3.5 million

You have to take off the maroon colored glasses.

Mack just turned down 4 mill from georgetown

http://www.espn.com/espn/now?nowId=21-0 ... 62443374-4

"Georgetown put out strong feelers to Xavier's Chris Mack at $4 million per year, source told ESPN. Mack staying at Xavier."

Moving to GTown would honestly be a step down (even if GTown was his alma mater instead of Xavier).

As would coming to BC. He can stay at Xavier and keep winning while holding out for a top job.

jhiggi02 {l Wrote}:

HJS {l Wrote}:The difference is the conference. As much as Leahy has purposely destroyed the athletic department, it has yet to be temple'd out of the ACC. If BC ever wanted to take sports seriously, being in the best BB conference (and it ain't even close) allows them a much better chance to land an elite coach than any Big East school. This is all hypothetical as long as the BOT allows Leahy to ruin sports.

Holy smokes HJS, obviously, just as was outlined above by my discussion with TW . Just like its obvious that as currently constituted, BC is a much worse and riskier job for Mack to take than the one he has right now at Xavier.

HJS {l Wrote}:

jhiggi02 {l Wrote}:

HJS {l Wrote}:The difference is the conference. As much as Leahy has purposely destroyed the athletic department, it has yet to be temple'd out of the ACC. If BC ever wanted to take sports seriously, being in the best BB conference (and it ain't even close) allows them a much better chance to land an elite coach than any Big East school. This is all hypothetical as long as the BOT allows Leahy to ruin sports.

Holy smokes HJS, obviously, just as was outlined above by my discussion with TW . Just like its obvious that as currently constituted, BC is a much worse and riskier job for Mack to take than the one he has right now at Xavier.

Of course it currently is with Leahy actively trying to destroy athletics. However, in the hypothetical that BC suddenly cared about being competitive and willing to pay $3mm plus assistants (perhaps because Leahy is gone because of health or defrocking)... BC instantly becomes an exponentially better program than anything in the Big East.

eepstein0 {l Wrote}:

HJS {l Wrote}:

jhiggi02 {l Wrote}:

HJS {l Wrote}:The difference is the conference. As much as Leahy has purposely destroyed the athletic department, it has yet to be temple'd out of the ACC. If BC ever wanted to take sports seriously, being in the best BB conference (and it ain't even close) allows them a much better chance to land an elite coach than any Big East school. This is all hypothetical as long as the BOT allows Leahy to ruin sports.

Holy smokes HJS, obviously, just as was outlined above by my discussion with TW . Just like its obvious that as currently constituted, BC is a much worse and riskier job for Mack to take than the one he has right now at Xavier.

Of course it currently is with Leahy actively trying to destroy athletics. However, in the hypothetical that BC suddenly cared about being competitive and willing to pay $3mm plus assistants (perhaps because Leahy is gone because of health or defrocking)... BC instantly becomes an exponentially better program than anything in the Big East.

It's the above

Corporal Funishment {l Wrote}:Jay Wright would be the coach at BC for $3 million a year

HJS {l Wrote}:

Corporal Funishment {l Wrote}:Jay Wright would be the coach at BC for $3 million a year

But not Brian Gregory. He would never leave Dayton.

TobaccoRoadEagle {l Wrote}:wait - has glacier been campion all this time?