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New & Official Coaching Candidates Thread

PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 1:13 pm
by commavegarage
Given the news re Howland (his market is more of the USF ilk), I think we have a great shot of landing him if 1. we want him and 2. were willing to write the check.

Re: New & Official Coaching Candidates Thread

PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 1:24 pm
by ATLeagle
commavegarage wrote:Given the news re Howland (his market is more of the USF ilk), I think we have a great shot of landing him if 1. we want him and 2. were willing to write the check.


I don't think money will be Howland's main issue. I think it will be more about fit, relationship with the AD and control.

Re: New & Official Coaching Candidates Thread

PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 1:26 pm
by HJS
ATLeagle wrote:
commavegarage wrote:Given the news re Howland (his market is more of the USF ilk), I think we have a great shot of landing him if 1. we want him and 2. were willing to write the check.


I don't think money will be Howland's main issue. I think it will be more about fit, relationship with the AD and control.

Market for Howland just got a lot more difficult. Wazoo just opened up.

Re: New & Official Coaching Candidates Thread

PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 1:27 pm
by Cadillac90
I'll throw my list out there for people to ask what I am smoking. Keep in mind, four years ago despite being devastated that the little fucker DeFilippo fired my hubby, I thought the best candidate at the time was Lon Krueger.

Ben Howland
Mark Few
Greg Marshall
Mike Lonergan
Jeff Capel

Re: New & Official Coaching Candidates Thread

PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 1:32 pm
by eepstein0
HJS wrote:
ATLeagle wrote:
commavegarage wrote:Given the news re Howland (his market is more of the USF ilk), I think we have a great shot of landing him if 1. we want him and 2. were willing to write the check.


I don't think money will be Howland's main issue. I think it will be more about fit, relationship with the AD and control.

Market for Howland just got a lot more difficult. Wazoo just opened up.


BC is a better job than that

Re: New & Official Coaching Candidates Thread

PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 1:33 pm
by Onyx Blackman
Another name to consider is Brad Stevens. Young guy, took Butler to the Sweet 16, Boston connection. Struggling in the pros right now, but Pitino and Calipari also failed in NBA and look at them now.

Re: New & Official Coaching Candidates Thread

PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 1:33 pm
by Puerto Rico Eagle
eepstein0 wrote:
HJS wrote:
ATLeagle wrote:
commavegarage wrote:Given the news re Howland (his market is more of the USF ilk), I think we have a great shot of landing him if 1. we want him and 2. were willing to write the check.


I don't think money will be Howland's main issue. I think it will be more about fit, relationship with the AD and control.

Market for Howland just got a lot more difficult. Wazoo just opened up.


BC is a better job than that



BC seems like the best job open right now correct?

Re: New & Official Coaching Candidates Thread

PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 1:34 pm
by DavidGordonsFoot
84 users online, get the meatbombs.

Re: New & Official Coaching Candidates Thread

PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 1:34 pm
by HJS
If you want to make a hire that will sell tickets, you hire Shaka Smart.
If you want to make a hire that allows you to win the quickest, you hire Ben Howland.
If you want to make a hire that gives the BOT and whalepants a tingling feeling run up their leg, you hire Amaker.

I've always liked Few and Marshall, but I doubt either would consider BC (and I doubt BC would break the bank for someone who isn't guaranteed of immediately sparking interest).

I think Capel would happily take the job if we showed interest (but, don't think we will). I am 99% certain that Mike Lonergan is on Bates' list (along with Amaker and Cuse's Mike Hopkins).

Re: New & Official Coaching Candidates Thread

PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 1:36 pm
by Puerto Rico Eagle
BostonGlobe: According to multiple sources, Harvard's Tommy Amaker is leading candidate to replace Steve Donahue at BC http://t.co/BObKx6yWGj

Re: New & Official Coaching Candidates Thread

PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 1:36 pm
by commavegarage
Wash St isn't as good of a job.

But Howland's a Pacific NW guy (and West Coast). Don't know if he wants to come back east.

Re: New & Official Coaching Candidates Thread

PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 1:38 pm
by Cadillac90
Onyx Blackman wrote:Another name to consider is Brad Stevens. Young guy, took Butler to the Sweet 16, Boston connection. Struggling in the pros right now, but Pitino and Calipari also failed in NBA and look at them now.


Don't forget Lon Krueger failed miserably with the Hawks and then returned to the college ranks.

You wouldn't have to pay for a relo with Stevens.

Re: New & Official Coaching Candidates Thread

PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 1:38 pm
by HJS
commavegarage wrote:Wash St isn't as good of a job.

But Howland's a Pacific NW guy (and West Coast). Don't know if he wants to come back east.

Exactly.

Re: New & Official Coaching Candidates Thread

PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 1:38 pm
by Cadillac90
Puerto Rico Eagle wrote:BostonGlobe: According to multiple sources, Harvard's Tommy Amaker is leading candidate to replace Steve Donahue at BC http://t.co/BObKx6yWGj



:suicide

Re: New & Official Coaching Candidates Thread

PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 1:39 pm
by DavidGordonsFoot
Puerto Rico Eagle wrote:BostonGlobe: According to multiple sources, Harvard's Tommy Amaker is leading candidate to replace Steve Donahue at BC http://t.co/BObKx6yWGj


UGH

I see Vega is sticking by his report that Rahon and Anderson will transfer if Hanlan goes pro even though it has been refuted by the players themselves.

Re: New & Official Coaching Candidates Thread

PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 1:41 pm
by commavegarage
Cadillac90 wrote:
Puerto Rico Eagle wrote:BostonGlobe: According to multiple sources, Harvard's Tommy Amaker is leading candidate to replace Steve Donahue at BC http://t.co/BObKx6yWGj



:suicide


I don't think for a second that's anything but 100% speculation.

Additionally, I would expect the Master to call up his connects when it comes to figuring out where to go next. And I would imagine his connects at Michigan would not paint a glowing picture of him.

Re: New & Official Coaching Candidates Thread

PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 1:41 pm
by twballgame9
As bad as Amaker is at coaching, he's a major upgrade over the guy that has been stealing money from BC for 4 years.

Re: New & Official Coaching Candidates Thread

PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 1:42 pm
by HJS
No one should be surprised by Amaker's name being mentioned. He checks off a lot of boxes for the BOT and whalepants. Like it or not, his candidacy is not unlike Dazoo's.

Re: New & Official Coaching Candidates Thread

PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 1:42 pm
by claver2010
HJS wrote:If you want to make a hire that will sell tickets, you hire Shaka Smart.
If you want to make a hire that allows you to win the quickest, you hire Ben Howland.
If you want to make a hire that gives the BOT and whalepants a tingling feeling run up their leg, you hire Amaker.


what about "fit" regarding amaker and the bot?

fwiw think the amaker/globe discussion is 100% bullshit

Re: New & Official Coaching Candidates Thread

PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 1:42 pm
by JesuitIvy
In Amaker's defense, he's made Harvard pretty good. Also, recruiting to Seton Hall has got to be pretty hard, considering the place it's in. That said, i don't want him as coach.

Re: New & Official Coaching Candidates Thread

PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 1:42 pm
by commavegarage
HJS wrote:No one should be surprised by Amaker's name being mentioned. He checks off a lot of boxes for the BOT and whalepants. Like it or not, his candidacy is not unlike Dazoo's.


I will say...while he's not my first choice, I think we could do a lot worse.

Re: New & Official Coaching Candidates Thread

PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 1:45 pm
by DavidGordonsFoot
HJS wrote:He checks off a lot of boxes for the BOT and whalepants.


I figure "cheap" is boxes 1, 2 & 3.

Re: New & Official Coaching Candidates Thread

PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 1:46 pm
by bluefishskip
Amaker is able to recruit the kids he wants at Harvard and they just have more athletes than anyone else in the Ivy. He failed twice at the Seton Hall and Michigan. Bates being a Michigan guy must remember their lack of success when Amaker was there.

Re: New & Official Coaching Candidates Thread

PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 1:48 pm
by HJS
commavegarage wrote:
HJS wrote:No one should be surprised by Amaker's name being mentioned. He checks off a lot of boxes for the BOT and whalepants. Like it or not, his candidacy is not unlike Dazoo's.


I will say...while he's not my first choice, I think we could do a lot worse.

Agreed. He isn't my first/second/tenth choice. But, I think he would be an upgrade and would go a long way bringing in talent into the program (which is its biggest problem right now).

Re: New & Official Coaching Candidates Thread

PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 1:49 pm
by twballgame9
He was mediocre at SHU with great talent, and rode Eddie Griffin to the Sweet 16.

He was hit or miss at Michigan, but brought in great talent that he didn't know how to coach.

Like I said, he's a bad X's and O's guy but he is a major upgrade over Captain MEAC

Re: New & Official Coaching Candidates Thread

PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 1:50 pm
by HJS
bluefishskip wrote:Amaker is able to recruit the kids he wants at Harvard and they just have more athletes than anyone else in the Ivy. He failed twice at the Seton Hall and Michigan. Bates being a Michigan guy must remember their lack of success when Amaker was there.

I wouldn't say Amaker "failed" at Seton Hall.

Your point about Bates re: Michigan means that he probably has more insight into Amaker... why he failed and whether he is worth rolling the dice with again.

Re: New & Official Coaching Candidates Thread

PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 1:53 pm
by pick6pedro
The University of Central Florida's Institute for Diversity and Ethics in Sport said in its report Monday that eight teams that made the 2014 men's bracket fall below the NCAA-mandated Academic Progress Rate score of 930, equivalent to a 50 percent graduation rate.

Currently, teams scoring below a 925 APR can lose up to 10 percent of their scholarships. Teams can also be subject to penalties for poor academic performance over time.

Teams in this year's field that would be subject to NCAA-imposed sanctions that could keep them from postseason play are: Cal Poly (925), Coastal Carolina (921), North Carolina Central (903), Oklahoma State (928), Providence (915), Texas Southern (900), Connecticut (897) and Oregon (918).

Re: New & Official Coaching Candidates Thread

PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 1:54 pm
by DavidGordonsFoot
The only reason I'll hold out hope if they hire Amaker is the fact that he is still only 49 years old. He was 36 when he took the Michigan job, and has 17 years of HC experience, which is insane for a guy still in his 40s. Short of the academic scandal (which extended beyond the basketball team), I can't knock his tenure at Harvard. It is possible that he has learned and adapted since the Michigan disaster.

Re: New & Official Coaching Candidates Thread

PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 1:54 pm
by eaglesfan06
Hopefully Brad Bates is smart enough to avoid hiring another Ivy League coach after seeing how miserably the last one failed

Re: New & Official Coaching Candidates Thread

PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 1:55 pm
by EagleDave
BC already floating Amaker to the media to gauge public reaction. Incredible.