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Re: recruiting 2014 and beyond (h00ps weird0s beat off list)

PostPosted: Fri Mar 26, 2021 7:21 pm
by eepstein0
‘21 F Devin McGlockton from GA committed tonight. No real D1 basketball offers. Apparently a really good football TE.

Kid is crazy athletic and just destroyed an AAU Tournament.

Looks crazy athletic from the highlight reel.

Re: recruiting 2014 and beyond (h00ps weird0s beat off list)

PostPosted: Fri Mar 26, 2021 10:44 pm
by ATLeagle
I don't know how this kid went under the radar. He is first team all state in the highest division in the state and went to a high school that is regularly hosting all sorts of AAU events. Maybe everyone assumed he was going to play football. Good job by Grant.

Re: recruiting 2014 and beyond (h00ps weird0s beat off list)

PostPosted: Sat Mar 27, 2021 10:02 am
by BConway
Just saw his HUDL HL. Looks decent but tough to tell because competition seemed low.

Re: recruiting 2014 and beyond (h00ps weird0s beat off list)

PostPosted: Sat Mar 27, 2021 10:03 am
by BC923
247 suggests we had interest (but no offer) in football

Re: recruiting 2014 and beyond (h00ps weird0s beat off list)

PostPosted: Sat Mar 27, 2021 2:37 pm
by HJS
It’s a long shot for this kid to see significant ACC minutes. That said, there is a Jared Dudley-like feel to his recruitment. I have always lamented the recruiting calendar accelerating by 18-months as it forecloses on players who are developing and maturing. Hopefully, this is a signal that we are getting back to physical play.

Re: recruiting 2014 and beyond (h00ps weird0s beat off list)

PostPosted: Sat Mar 27, 2021 4:49 pm
by eepstein0
HJS {l Wrote}:It’s a long shot for this kid to see significant ACC minutes. That said, there is a Jared Dudley-like feel to his recruitment. I have always lamented the recruiting calendar accelerating by 18-months as it forecloses on players who are developing and maturing. Hopefully, this is a signal that we are getting back to physical play.


I’m fine with like 1 of these dart throws. Usually they end up like VBJ or Mike Sagay. Already have two guys on this roster who were dart throws that I feel pretty comfortable saying shouldn’t be anywhere near the ACC

Re: recruiting 2014 and beyond (h00ps weird0s beat off list)

PostPosted: Sat Mar 27, 2021 5:17 pm
by BCEagles25
Jay Heath to Arizona State. I want to say best of luck to him, but a big part of me also wants to say ‘fuck Jim Christian’ even though it’s barely related

Re: recruiting 2014 and beyond (h00ps weird0s beat off list)

PostPosted: Sat Mar 27, 2021 6:06 pm
by Tom Dooder
Another new commit today. Guard Kanye Jones. Shitty offer list. Following Grant from Charleston. Better hope he does a lot better on the transfer market because this kid reads as Avery Wilson 2.0.

Re: recruiting 2014 and beyond (h00ps weird0s beat off list)

PostPosted: Sun Mar 28, 2021 7:30 am
by BConway
Tom Dooder {l Wrote}:Another new commit today. Guard Kanye Jones. Shitty offer list. Following Grant from Charleston. Better hope he does a lot better on the transfer market because this kid reads as Avery Wilson 2.0.

He looks more like a basketball player than Wilson did. Longer and more athletic from what i can see. Doesnt mean he will be good but better chance than Wilson.

Re: recruiting 2014 and beyond (h00ps weird0s beat off list)

PostPosted: Sun Mar 28, 2021 9:26 am
by BC923
Both of these guys also have pretty good shooting motions which Jim always had trouble finding

Re: recruiting 2014 and beyond (h00ps weird0s beat off list)

PostPosted: Sun Mar 28, 2021 10:39 am
by eepstein0
This recruiting is super discouraging to the point I’m already souring on this hire and it’s been about a week. Just bank the scholarships for ‘22 or go the 1 year grad transfer route.

Re: recruiting 2014 and beyond (h00ps weird0s beat off list)

PostPosted: Sun Mar 28, 2021 11:43 am
by Logitano
eepstein0 {l Wrote}:This recruiting is super discouraging to the point I’m already souring on this hire and it’s been about a week. Just bank the scholarships for ‘22 or go the 1 year grad transfer route.


This. :ace

Re: recruiting 2014 and beyond (h00ps weird0s beat off list)

PostPosted: Sun Mar 28, 2021 1:44 pm
by BConway
eepstein0 {l Wrote}:This recruiting is super discouraging to the point I’m already souring on this hire and it’s been about a week. Just bank the scholarships for ‘22 or go the 1 year grad transfer route.

I dont really understand what you want instead? These are late 21 signings. Not a ton of guys available and we need to balance the roster a bit. Did you expect him to come in and flip a 5* recruit from Duke? Let him get a few freshman in here to develop and of course he will add veteran transfers. He wasnt left with many options after the mass exodus of players.

Re: recruiting 2014 and beyond (h00ps weird0s beat off list)

PostPosted: Sun Mar 28, 2021 1:51 pm
by innocentbystander
BConway {l Wrote}:
eepstein0 {l Wrote}:This recruiting is super discouraging to the point I’m already souring on this hire and it’s been about a week. Just bank the scholarships for ‘22 or go the 1 year grad transfer route.

I dont really understand what you want instead? These are late 21 signings. Not a ton of guys available and we need to balance the roster a bit. Did you expect him to come in and flip a 5* recruit from Duke? Let him get a few freshman in here to develop and of course he will add veteran transfers. He wasnt left with many options after the mass exodus of players.


He told you what he wants and doesn't want. He doesn't want any of the kids that Grant has recruited. None of the above. He wants schollies offered ONLY to one year grad student transfers (a 22 year old one-and-done) and then try fresh next year with a really strong frosh class.

That is the option.

Re: recruiting 2014 and beyond (h00ps weird0s beat off list)

PostPosted: Sun Mar 28, 2021 1:53 pm
by twballgame9
BConway {l Wrote}:
eepstein0 {l Wrote}:This recruiting is super discouraging to the point I’m already souring on this hire and it’s been about a week. Just bank the scholarships for ‘22 or go the 1 year grad transfer route.

I dont really understand what you want instead? These are late 21 signings. Not a ton of guys available and we need to balance the roster a bit. Did you expect him to come in and flip a 5* recruit from Duke? Let him get a few freshman in here to develop and of course he will add veteran transfers. He wasnt left with many options after the mass exodus of players.


Don't fill out a roster with guys that are stuck here for 4 years.

Re: recruiting 2014 and beyond (h00ps weird0s beat off list)

PostPosted: Sun Mar 28, 2021 2:05 pm
by TobaccoRoadEagle
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:
BConway {l Wrote}:
eepstein0 {l Wrote}:This recruiting is super discouraging to the point I’m already souring on this hire and it’s been about a week. Just bank the scholarships for ‘22 or go the 1 year grad transfer route.

I dont really understand what you want instead? These are late 21 signings. Not a ton of guys available and we need to balance the roster a bit. Did you expect him to come in and flip a 5* recruit from Duke? Let him get a few freshman in here to develop and of course he will add veteran transfers. He wasnt left with many options after the mass exodus of players.


Don't fill out a roster with guys that are stuck here for 4 years.

with the ease of the transfer portal, no one is stuck for 4 years. that said, it would be nice to use said portal to bring in better instead of sending out worse

Re: recruiting 2014 and beyond (h00ps weird0s beat off list)

PostPosted: Sun Mar 28, 2021 6:10 pm
by twballgame9
TobaccoRoadEagle {l Wrote}:
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:
BConway {l Wrote}:
eepstein0 {l Wrote}:This recruiting is super discouraging to the point I’m already souring on this hire and it’s been about a week. Just bank the scholarships for ‘22 or go the 1 year grad transfer route.

I dont really understand what you want instead? These are late 21 signings. Not a ton of guys available and we need to balance the roster a bit. Did you expect him to come in and flip a 5* recruit from Duke? Let him get a few freshman in here to develop and of course he will add veteran transfers. He wasnt left with many options after the mass exodus of players.


Don't fill out a roster with guys that are stuck here for 4 years.

with the ease of the transfer portal, no one is stuck for 4 years. that said, it would be nice to use said portal to bring in better instead of sending out worse


If they don't want to leave it ain't easy.

Re: recruiting 2014 and beyond (h00ps weird0s beat off list)

PostPosted: Sun Mar 28, 2021 6:18 pm
by BConway
innocentbystander {l Wrote}:
BConway {l Wrote}:
eepstein0 {l Wrote}:This recruiting is super discouraging to the point I’m already souring on this hire and it’s been about a week. Just bank the scholarships for ‘22 or go the 1 year grad transfer route.

I dont really understand what you want instead? These are late 21 signings. Not a ton of guys available and we need to balance the roster a bit. Did you expect him to come in and flip a 5* recruit from Duke? Let him get a few freshman in here to develop and of course he will add veteran transfers. He wasnt left with many options after the mass exodus of players.


He told you what he wants and doesn't want. He doesn't want any of the kids that Grant has recruited. None of the above. He wants schollies offered ONLY to one year grad student transfers (a 22 year old one-and-done) and then try fresh next year with a really strong frosh class.

That is the option.


How are we getting a really strong 22 class? Speak it into existence? Beggars cant be choosers. We need bodies. We need roster balance. We cant have a team of 8 grad transfers and 1 freshman. Grad transfers leave and we are in the same position again, another year of grad transfers.

Re: recruiting 2014 and beyond (h00ps weird0s beat off list)

PostPosted: Sun Mar 28, 2021 6:24 pm
by twballgame9
It doesn't matter. Signing terrible players as frosh is always a mistake. You're stuck with them. You don't fill out a roster with shitty freshman. Ever. Gabe Moton was here for like 40 years.

Re: recruiting 2014 and beyond (h00ps weird0s beat off list)

PostPosted: Sun Mar 28, 2021 7:24 pm
by innocentbystander
BConway {l Wrote}:
innocentbystander {l Wrote}:
BConway {l Wrote}:
eepstein0 {l Wrote}:This recruiting is super discouraging to the point I’m already souring on this hire and it’s been about a week. Just bank the scholarships for ‘22 or go the 1 year grad transfer route.

I dont really understand what you want instead? These are late 21 signings. Not a ton of guys available and we need to balance the roster a bit. Did you expect him to come in and flip a 5* recruit from Duke? Let him get a few freshman in here to develop and of course he will add veteran transfers. He wasnt left with many options after the mass exodus of players.


He told you what he wants and doesn't want. He doesn't want any of the kids that Grant has recruited. None of the above. He wants schollies offered ONLY to one year grad student transfers (a 22 year old one-and-done) and then try fresh next year with a really strong frosh class.

That is the option.


How are we getting a really strong 22 class? Speak it into existence? Beggars cant be choosers. We need bodies. We need roster balance. We cant have a team of 8 grad transfers and 1 freshman. Grad transfers leave and we are in the same position again, another year of grad transfers.


Why would you want to recruit crappy 2021 freshmen (that no other ACC school wanted) who have no business playing power-7 basketball (let alone, ACC basketball?) That is crazy. You don't just give freshmen schollies because you have to fill roster spots. You recruit the cream of the crop, or don't recruit them. Just go get 22 year old grad transfers who lost their starting position to a freshman blue chip. Get the young men who are pissed and angry and vengeful, even if they are only here a year.

BC should never be in a begging position with respect to hoop. They are in the ACC. They can offer a blue chip athlete an ACC resume against ACC talent. That should be able to put them ahead of almost everyone else in 28 or 29 of the other division-1 conferences. Just because Don and Mac couldn't do it, doesn't mean that no one can.

That said "we" aren't going to do anything. This is Earl Grant, not "we." If all Earl Grant can do is recruit CAA level talent, then he needs to go back to the CAA.

Re: recruiting 2014 and beyond (h00ps weird0s beat off list)

PostPosted: Sun Mar 28, 2021 7:34 pm
by twballgame9
He can bring in CAA players to fill out the roster if they aren't going to be here four years from now. Roster flexibility is more valuable to a new coach on a rebuild than the stupid concept of roster balance.

Re: recruiting 2014 and beyond (h00ps weird0s beat off list)

PostPosted: Sun Mar 28, 2021 7:46 pm
by claver2010
there are over a thousand kids in the portal this year, you can make your own roster balance

Re: recruiting 2014 and beyond (h00ps weird0s beat off list)

PostPosted: Sun Mar 28, 2021 8:37 pm
by innocentbystander
claver2010 {l Wrote}:there are over a thousand kids in the portal this year, you can make your own roster balance




Jonah Hill {l Wrote}:"student athletes" in the collegiate transfer portal are overlooked for a variety of biased reasons and perceived flaws. Grades, criminal record, illiteracy. Earl Grant and mathematics cut straight through that. Claver of the 1000 kids in the transfer portal this year, I believe there is an ACC championship team of 12 transfers that we can trick into attending Boston College. Because every other power-7 coach has given up on them. Like a Chestnut Hill of Misfit thugs.

Re: recruiting 2014 and beyond (h00ps weird0s beat off list)

PostPosted: Mon Mar 29, 2021 12:09 am
by TobaccoRoadEagle
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:It doesn't matter...

I knew meatballs would have an impact on you

Re: recruiting 2014 and beyond (h00ps weird0s beat off list)

PostPosted: Mon Mar 29, 2021 8:11 am
by BConway
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:It doesn't matter. Signing terrible players as frosh is always a mistake. You're stuck with them. You don't fill out a roster with shitty freshman. Ever. Gabe Moton was here for like 40 years.


If we dont sign "crappy freshman" then we wont ever have a recruiting class. This is BC not Duke. Lets wait until 22 and we will get 4 and 5* players all over the place. 22 kids are breaking down the doors to come here.

Re: recruiting 2014 and beyond (h00ps weird0s beat off list)

PostPosted: Mon Mar 29, 2021 8:13 am
by TobaccoRoadEagle
BConway {l Wrote}:... 22 kids are breaking down the doors to come here.

why - have they already announced another coaching change? the thread that let me know if we hired a new coach today seems to have dried up so if we have announced a new coach for 22, could you let me know where i can read about it?

Re: recruiting 2014 and beyond (h00ps weird0s beat off list)

PostPosted: Mon Mar 29, 2021 8:28 am
by twballgame9
BConway {l Wrote}:
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:It doesn't matter. Signing terrible players as frosh is always a mistake. You're stuck with them. You don't fill out a roster with shitty freshman. Ever. Gabe Moton was here for like 40 years.


If we dont sign "crappy freshman" then we wont ever have a recruiting class. This is BC not Duke. Lets wait until 22 and we will get 4 and 5* players all over the place. 22 kids are breaking down the doors to come here.


This is a recipe for terrible.

Re: recruiting 2014 and beyond (h00ps weird0s beat off list)

PostPosted: Mon Mar 29, 2021 8:31 am
by eepstein0
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:
BConway {l Wrote}:
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:It doesn't matter. Signing terrible players as frosh is always a mistake. You're stuck with them. You don't fill out a roster with shitty freshman. Ever. Gabe Moton was here for like 40 years.


If we dont sign "crappy freshman" then we wont ever have a recruiting class. This is BC not Duke. Lets wait until 22 and we will get 4 and 5* players all over the place. 22 kids are breaking down the doors to come here.


This is a recipe for terrible.


Agreed the above is a terrible idea. By all accounts Thompson who was recruited by JC is still coming next year.

The ‘21 recruits could pan out, but had 0 interest from peer schools and we don’t need more Avery Wilson/Gabe Moton’s

Re: recruiting 2014 and beyond (h00ps weird0s beat off list)

PostPosted: Mon Mar 29, 2021 9:34 am
by Corporal Funishment
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:It doesn't matter. Signing terrible players as frosh is always a mistake. You're stuck with them. You don't fill out a roster with shitty freshman. Ever. Gabe Moton was here for like 40 years.


Moton transferred out after his Sophomore year...

Re: recruiting 2014 and beyond (h00ps weird0s beat off list)

PostPosted: Mon Mar 29, 2021 10:20 am
by claver2010
luka has been here for 20 years tho