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Re: recruiting 2014 and beyond (h00ps weird0s beat off list)

Postby claver2010 on Mon May 13, 2019 9:37 am

according to Rothstein, Derryck Thornton is visiting today, grad transfer from USC (and earlier Duke)

6'3 / 185

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Re: recruiting 2014 and beyond (h00ps weird0s beat off list)

Postby eepstein0 on Mon May 13, 2019 2:22 pm

Lawson to Tulane (that seems very odd)
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Re: recruiting 2014 and beyond (h00ps weird0s beat off list)

Postby Tom Dooder on Mon May 13, 2019 9:17 pm

claver2010 wrote:bc offered 2020 PG jalen cone from NC, offers from: VT, Ole Miss, PC, Tenn & Wake

top 100 recruit



He committed to Va Tech a couple of days ago. Looks like that new recruiting budget is paying dividends!!
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Re: recruiting 2014 and beyond (h00ps weird0s beat off list)

Postby 2001Eagle on Mon May 13, 2019 9:52 pm

Tom Dooder wrote:
claver2010 wrote:bc offered 2020 PG jalen cone from NC, offers from: VT, Ole Miss, PC, Tenn & Wake

top 100 recruit



He committed to Va Tech a couple of days ago. Looks like that new recruiting budget is paying dividends!!


staff couldn't compete with the relationship he built with coach buzz...
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Re: recruiting 2014 and beyond (h00ps weird0s beat off list)

Postby Hunta518 on Wed May 15, 2019 12:33 pm

eepstein0 wrote:Lawson to Tulane (that seems very odd)


All things being equal (both teams sucking)... 2 years in New Orleans > 2 years in Chestnut Hill.
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Re: recruiting 2014 and beyond (h00ps weird0s beat off list)

Postby BCSUPERFAN22 on Sun Jun 02, 2019 2:37 pm

Offer to 2020 top 150 PF Richard Springs from MacDuffie School in MA. Other offers include Minnesota, Penn State, Rutgers, Seton Hall, DePaul, UMass and Yukon
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Re: recruiting 2014 and beyond (h00ps weird0s beat off list)

Postby Tom Dooder on Mon Jun 17, 2019 10:58 am

USC PG grad transfer Derryck Thornton has committed. He was a 5 star recruit.

6'3", average 7.7 ppg and 4.3 apg last season.



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Re: recruiting 2014 and beyond (h00ps weird0s beat off list)

Postby MF73-Eleazar on Mon Jun 17, 2019 11:12 am

better than nothing. :koolaid :shrug
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Re: recruiting 2014 and beyond (h00ps weird0s beat off list)

Postby claver2010 on Mon Jun 17, 2019 12:41 pm

nice grab by jimmy mac

won't need to instantly rely on heath for big minutes off the bat

obviously lacks high end star but this might be the deepest team we've had in a while
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Re: recruiting 2014 and beyond (h00ps weird0s beat off list)

Postby DavidGordonsFoot on Mon Jun 17, 2019 12:47 pm

Can't be worse than Chatman.
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Re: recruiting 2014 and beyond (h00ps weird0s beat off list)

Postby eepstein0 on Mon Jun 17, 2019 1:26 pm

Tom Dooder wrote:USC PG grad transfer Derryck Thornton has committed. He was a 5 star recruit.

6'3", average 7.7 ppg and 4.3 apg last season.



https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/status ... 5888373762


Did we not learn our lesson from Eli Carter? JC is taking a huge risk here.
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Re: recruiting 2014 and beyond (h00ps weird0s beat off list)

Postby MF73-Eleazar on Mon Jun 17, 2019 1:47 pm

so 3 guard lineup? Steff or HamiltonTheYounger at PF, Pops at C?
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Re: recruiting 2014 and beyond (h00ps weird0s beat off list)

Postby jbrooks58 on Mon Jun 17, 2019 2:01 pm

eepstein0 wrote:
Tom Dooder wrote:USC PG grad transfer Derryck Thornton has committed. He was a 5 star recruit.

6'3", average 7.7 ppg and 4.3 apg last season.



https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/status ... 5888373762


Did we not learn our lesson from Eli Carter? JC is taking a huge risk here.


No. Gonzaga wanted this kid. If you will take any kid that "Wichita State wants badly" I will take the ones Gonzaga wants.
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Re: recruiting 2014 and beyond (h00ps weird0s beat off list)

Postby eepstein0 on Mon Jun 17, 2019 2:33 pm

jbrooks58 wrote:
eepstein0 wrote:
Tom Dooder wrote:USC PG grad transfer Derryck Thornton has committed. He was a 5 star recruit.

6'3", average 7.7 ppg and 4.3 apg last season.



https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/status ... 5888373762


Did we not learn our lesson from Eli Carter? JC is taking a huge risk here.


No. Gonzaga wanted this kid. If you will take any kid that "Wichita State wants badly" I will take the ones Gonzaga wants.


Gonzaga and Witchita St. already have the basketball program culture in place so there is significantly less risk.

Look, it's way better than letting Herren Jr. play 30 minutes a night, this is just a really risky proposition. There's a reason this is his 3rd squad.
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Re: recruiting 2014 and beyond (h00ps weird0s beat off list)

Postby twballgame9 on Mon Jun 17, 2019 4:33 pm

I'm going to guess the reason he's playing for his third team is he left Duke because of playing time and USC because of the PG transfer rules.
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Re: recruiting 2014 and beyond (h00ps weird0s beat off list)

Postby Corporal Funishment on Tue Jun 18, 2019 12:25 am

Congratulations to head coach Jim Christian on another big-time pickup! It's shaping up to be a great year on the Heights!
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Re: recruiting 2014 and beyond (h00ps weird0s beat off list)

Postby NJM89 on Tue Jun 18, 2019 1:29 am

Liked everything that happened so far this offseason losing VBJ and Wilson might be more huge than this signing they were worthless. But what the hell is going on with 2020 recruiting? Not one offer went out so far in this AAU season and we have no targets even thinking of us. Hopefully with this “increase budget” for recruiting starts to show now that they have next seasons roster done.
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Re: recruiting 2014 and beyond (h00ps weird0s beat off list)

Postby eepstein0 on Tue Jun 18, 2019 7:14 am

NJM89 wrote:Liked everything that happened so far this offseason losing VBJ and Wilson might be more huge than this signing they were worthless. But what the hell is going on with 2020 recruiting? Not one offer went out so far in this AAU season and we have no targets even thinking of us. Hopefully with this “increase budget” for recruiting starts to show now that they have next seasons roster done.


BC has a bunch of offers out to 2020 players. BC Basketball doesn't get covered the same way by the recruiting media.
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Re: recruiting 2014 and beyond (h00ps weird0s beat off list)

Postby claver2010 on Tue Jun 18, 2019 7:32 am

article by benbow with some quotes:

Boston College basketball lands grad transfer Derryck Thornton to play guard
By Julian Benbow Globe Staff,

No matter how Boston College’s roster has been constructed over the five years Jim Christian has been head coach, Christian always had a guard he could build the team around.

In his first year, it was Olivier Hanlan. The next year, he brought in Jerome Robinson. In 2016, he added firecracker Ky Bowman.

The explosive backcourt ensured that Boston College had firepower in the Atlantic Coast Conference. When Robinson left for the NBA in 2018, it left the Eagles with one weapon. When Bowman left at the end of last season, Christian had to fill a void.

Since the spring, the Eagles had their sights on Derryck Thornton, a graduate transfer from Southern Cal. He came out of Findlay Prep in Henderson, Nev., as a five-star recruit ranked in the top 20 in the 2015 recruiting class.
How the Eagles landed a commitment from the 6-foot-3-inch Thornton on Monday, solidifying another explosive guard to run their offense, is a combination of timing and hoop happenstance.

In 2015, Thornton went to Duke on the hopes and promise of being a transformative starting point guard. Those plans never panned out. He transferred to Southern Cal (sitting out a season), largely on the strength of his relationship with former assistant coach Tony Bland. But when Bland was fired after being charged in connection with college basketball’s corruption case in 2018, the fallout left Thornton once again weighing his options.

He took a visit with BC in May and got a chance to get familiar with Christian and assistants Scott Spinelli, Bill Wuczynski, and Chris Cheeks.

“They’re just terrific people,” Thornton’s father, Derryck Thornton Sr., said. “Of course, Jim Christian’s just a terrific dude, just as a human. A lot of times, when you’re dealing with the basketball stuff, you don’t really deal with great men, you deal with coaches. He’s a stand-up, good guy — transparent, let’s you into his family, what’s going on and that goes for his entire staf

When they returned home to California, Thornton started working out at Impact Basketball. As it so happened, Bowman was working out there at the same time.

“Ky was there and they sat down and chopped it up for a while,” Thornton Sr. said. “Ky was just like, ‘[Christian] features his point guard. They run everything through their guards like they did with Jerome, like they did with Olivier before. It gives you freedom.’?”

Bowman told him about all the work he did with Wuczynski.

“Derryck hasn’t had skill development since he left high school at either of the two schools he went to,” Thornton Sr. said. “For Derryck, that’s a part of who he’s always been. They’re in the gym, they’re working and working and working.”

Bowman told him, “I think it would be a great choice.’?”

The positives also came with some reservations for Thornton.

The Eagles were coming off a losing season. Their 14-17 record was a step backward after going 19-16 and reaching the second round of the ACC tournament in the 2017-18 season.

But when Thornton looked at the pieces the Eagles still had in place, he saw a fit.

“I had them send me 10 games,” Thornton said. “At this point in the game, I don’t want to see highlights. I don’t want you showing me your highlights because we’ve been fooled by that before. ‘Yeah, this is what we run.’ Then you get there and it’s not that at all. So I was like, send me full games.”
The Thorntons’ visit with BC left an impression. But they were still fielding calls. Auburn, Texas Tech, Gonzaga, and St. John’s all reached out.

They decided to take a visit with Gonzaga. They were blown away. Gonzaga is its own planet. Without a football program, their basketball program is the fulcrum of athletics. Being ranked and going to the NCAA Tournament was a given. Their coaching staff is top-notch.

The one consideration: Gonzaga is known for sending big men to the NBA, not guards. When the Thorntons got back to Los Angeles, they decided to pore over the film one more time.

“When it came down to style of play, BC runs NBA everything,” Thornton said. “They run a lot of five-out stuff. They run a lot of stuff that starts with a pick, so if you’re slick with the ball and you’re quick, you can get to the cup.”

It was a dramatic shift from the sets Thornton was used two with two players typically taking up space in the post.

“I love how BC pushes it,” Thornton said. “As soon as they get it, Ky was out. They’re trying to score within seven seconds. Nothing there? Now we run the offense. They’re not looking to the side trying to call a play every two seconds.”

The film study went on for another two weeks — from YouTube clips to Synergy breakdowns. The more they watched, the more they saw how Thornton could thrive in Christian’s offense.
“What they run, for the first time, is made for what you do as a point guard,” Thornton said.

Thornton faced outsized expectations before his first college game. He came out of Findlay Prep a year early. He bypassed the McDonald’s All-American game to go to Duke a year early. He spent one season in Durham and averaged 7.1 points, 2.5 assists, and 1.8 rebounds in 36 games. He started 20 games, but was coming off the bench by year’s end.

After the season, he transferred to USC. But when Bland was fired, Thornton suffered. His first year, he made just one start. His scoring dropped to 3.8 points per game and his assists dropped to 1.2 per game. Last season, he scored 7.7 a night with 4.3 assists.

“I think that Derryck had never been told no,” Thornton Sr. said. “In high school, being ranked so high, coming out of high school so early to be the starting point guard at Duke. Then you get to college, it’s, ‘No, no, no, no, no.’ And I don’t think he was ready for that mentally as a kid. ‘Don’t do this. Don’t do that. Don’t do this. Go stand over there. I think that kind of stymied his growth. What we’re looking for in this last journey, this last part is positivity and a positive staff for one of the first times. They want to see you do well. Get back to saying yes and playing your game, the game you had your whole life and of course developing that further.”

Coming to Boston College will give Thornton a chance to write his final college hoops chapter and rediscover the talent that made him so highly touted to begin with.

“You want to really know the people you’re going to be dealing with in your last hurrah,” Thornton Sr. said. “If you’re going to go out, you want to go out playing your way. You want to go out playing how you played your whole life, and if that’s not good enough, that’s not good enough. But you want to be who you are and not put in a little box of who they want you to be.”

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Re: recruiting 2014 and beyond (h00ps weird0s beat off list)

Postby DavidGordonsFoot on Tue Jun 18, 2019 1:35 pm

Thanks for saving me from having to give The Globe pageviews.
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Re: recruiting 2014 and beyond (h00ps weird0s beat off list)

Postby claver2010 on Tue Jun 18, 2019 2:19 pm

full disclosure i captain cut and pasted it too
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Re: recruiting 2014 and beyond (h00ps weird0s beat off list)

Postby NJM89 on Tue Jun 18, 2019 2:32 pm

Looks like they listened to me offer out to Zed Key
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Re: recruiting 2014 and beyond (h00ps weird0s beat off list)

Postby Corporal Funishment on Tue Jun 18, 2019 4:53 pm

longdistanceeagle wrote:It wasn't just basketball with SBT; it was every aspect of being in college. He missed classes, study halls, lied to everyone, and basically pissed off anybody involved with the overall responsibilities of a college athlete. The staff actually thought as a player he would have helped, but he just continued to make it impossible to keep him around. He was told he was gone. They figure he will have to go the junior college route.


After a couple of years doing heavens knows what, SBT is going to play at something called New Mexico Highlands University.

I'm quite interested to see if he dominates

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Re: recruiting 2014 and beyond (h00ps weird0s beat off list)

Postby eepstein0 on Tue Jun 18, 2019 5:54 pm

Corporal Funishment wrote:
longdistanceeagle wrote:It wasn't just basketball with SBT; it was every aspect of being in college. He missed classes, study halls, lied to everyone, and basically pissed off anybody involved with the overall responsibilities of a college athlete. The staff actually thought as a player he would have helped, but he just continued to make it impossible to keep him around. He was told he was gone. They figure he will have to go the junior college route.


After a couple of years doing heavens knows what, SBT is going to play at something called New Mexico Highlands University.

I'm quite interested to see if he dominates

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That picture reminds me of when we got dominated by UC Irvine and some other god awful team in back-to-back games in CA after losing by 30 to Michigan St. Good times.
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Re: recruiting 2014 and beyond (h00ps weird0s beat off list)

Postby twballgame9 on Tue Jun 18, 2019 6:37 pm

I actually think this Thornton kid has his head on straight.
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Re: recruiting 2014 and beyond (h00ps weird0s beat off list)

Postby BC923 on Tue Jun 18, 2019 7:12 pm

Thornton doesn't seem like a headcase, at least the official story. Not quite good enough for Duke, goes to USC where the coach he committed to gets fired, and so he wants to leave when he can. Makes sense on the surface
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Re: recruiting 2014 and beyond (h00ps weird0s beat off list)

Postby Uptown Eagle on Tue Jun 18, 2019 7:38 pm

Tom Dooder wrote:USC PG grad transfer Derryck Thornton has committed. He was a 5 star recruit.

6'3", average 7.7 ppg and 4.3 apg last season.



https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/status ... 5888373762


in 2 years at USC: .377 FG% .294 3PT FG%

This kid can't shoot and yet when you read the article, it seems like his dad thinks that was the result of his former coaches. Best of luck to Thorton, but put me in the "he sucks" camp.
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Re: recruiting 2014 and beyond (h00ps weird0s beat off list)

Postby twballgame9 on Tue Jun 18, 2019 10:43 pm

Uptown Eagle wrote:
Tom Dooder wrote:USC PG grad transfer Derryck Thornton has committed. He was a 5 star recruit.

6'3", average 7.7 ppg and 4.3 apg last season.



https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/status ... 5888373762


in 2 years at USC: .377 FG% .294 3PT FG%

This kid can't shoot and yet when you read the article, it seems like his dad thinks that was the result of his former coaches. Best of luck to Thorton, but put me in the "he sucks" camp.


That and 25 cents gets me a quarter.
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Re: recruiting 2014 and beyond (h00ps weird0s beat off list)

Postby NJM89 on Mon Jun 24, 2019 9:45 pm

Offer out to Myles Stute another DC kid
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Re: recruiting 2014 and beyond (h00ps weird0s beat off list)

Postby Bernard Lonergan on Mon Jul 01, 2019 3:27 pm

BCSUPERFAN22 wrote:Makai Ashton Langford is leaving Providence. Orig a fairly highly recruited PG committed to Yukon.

Assuming Bowman leaves and with Chatman graduating, he could be a decent piece to add depth. He’s def not a great scoring guard and struggled at PC this year because of it, but could certainly be more of a facilitator type player. He played at Brewster and 247 says he’s from Worcester
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