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Re: recruiting 2014 and beyond (h00ps weird0s beat off list)

Postby eepstein0 on Wed Apr 25, 2018 6:21 pm

The devil is in the details of these extensions. There’s a lot of panic on here for not much reason.

Did his buyout increase in dollars or years?
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Re: recruiting 2014 and beyond (h00ps weird0s beat off list)

Postby eepstein0 on Wed Apr 25, 2018 6:26 pm

I also think JC is mostly fine, but any comment that his teams have always played hard is just a lie.
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Re: recruiting 2014 and beyond (h00ps weird0s beat off list)

Postby DuchesneEast on Thu Apr 26, 2018 11:11 am

Logitano wrote:
Corporal Funishment wrote:They either have to fire him or extend him, having a lame duck coach is entirely self-defeating. They're not firing him so there's your extension.

Unrelatedly, imagine the feeling a hypothetical poster might have if he had entered into a hypothetical bet in which he had wagered our head coach would get fired this summer.

That guy would probably feel like a real loser!


His contract was already running through 2020 so hardly a lame duck. Jarmond has revealed himself as looking to be gone from here in the next two or three years. :ace


Did I miss this revelation?
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Re: recruiting 2014 and beyond (h00ps weird0s beat off list)

Postby DomingoOrtiz on Thu Apr 26, 2018 11:54 am

eepstein0 wrote:The devil is in the details of these extensions. There’s a lot of panic on here for not much reason.

Did his buyout increase in dollars or years?


Yup, all about the buyout. Since JC was not exactly negotiating from a position of strength, it shouldn't be more than a chalupa or two.
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Re: recruiting 2014 and beyond (h00ps weird0s beat off list)

Postby Logitano on Thu Apr 26, 2018 4:10 pm

DuchesneEast wrote:
Logitano wrote:
Corporal Funishment wrote:They either have to fire him or extend him, having a lame duck coach is entirely self-defeating. They're not firing him so there's your extension.

Unrelatedly, imagine the feeling a hypothetical poster might have if he had entered into a hypothetical bet in which he had wagered our head coach would get fired this summer.

That guy would probably feel like a real loser!


His contract was already running through 2020 so hardly a lame duck. Jarmond has revealed himself as looking to be gone from here in the next two or three years. :ace


Did I miss this revelation?


Jarmond wants nothing to do with putting major hires on his resume as he climbs up the ladder. Two year extension to me says he does not plan to be here when action will needed to be taken on JC. :ace
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Re: recruiting 2014 and beyond (h00ps weird0s beat off list)

Postby 2001Eagle on Fri Apr 27, 2018 8:24 am

Logitano wrote:
DuchesneEast wrote:
Logitano wrote:
Corporal Funishment wrote:They either have to fire him or extend him, having a lame duck coach is entirely self-defeating. They're not firing him so there's your extension.

Unrelatedly, imagine the feeling a hypothetical poster might have if he had entered into a hypothetical bet in which he had wagered our head coach would get fired this summer.

That guy would probably feel like a real loser!


His contract was already running through 2020 so hardly a lame duck. Jarmond has revealed himself as looking to be gone from here in the next two or three years. :ace


Did I miss this revelation?


Jarmond wants nothing to do with putting major hires on his resume as he climbs up the ladder. Two year extension to me says he does not plan to be here when action will needed to be taken on JC. :ace


I don’t think this logic pans out. Making successful hires is what builds the AD resume.
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Re: recruiting 2014 and beyond (h00ps weird0s beat off list)

Postby Logitano on Fri Apr 27, 2018 8:43 am

2001Eagle wrote:
Logitano wrote:
DuchesneEast wrote:
Logitano wrote:
Corporal Funishment wrote:They either have to fire him or extend him, having a lame duck coach is entirely self-defeating. They're not firing him so there's your extension.

Unrelatedly, imagine the feeling a hypothetical poster might have if he had entered into a hypothetical bet in which he had wagered our head coach would get fired this summer.

That guy would probably feel like a real loser!


His contract was already running through 2020 so hardly a lame duck. Jarmond has revealed himself as looking to be gone from here in the next two or three years. :ace


Did I miss this revelation?


Jarmond wants nothing to do with putting major hires on his resume as he climbs up the ladder. Two year extension to me says he does not plan to be here when action will needed to be taken on JC. :ace


I don’t think this logic pans out. Making successful hires is what builds the AD resume.


It is not a logic view. It is reality. An AD does not necessarily have to make major hires to move up. See the career of Coach Flip. However, making major hires that do not work out can be the end of your career. See Brad Bates. The safe play for Jarmond to move on and up from BC would be a multiple year extension for JC. :ace
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Re: recruiting 2014 and beyond (h00ps weird0s beat off list)

Postby twballgame9 on Fri Apr 27, 2018 10:03 am

Logitano wrote:
2001Eagle wrote:
Logitano wrote:
DuchesneEast wrote:
Logitano wrote:
Corporal Funishment wrote:They either have to fire him or extend him, having a lame duck coach is entirely self-defeating. They're not firing him so there's your extension.

Unrelatedly, imagine the feeling a hypothetical poster might have if he had entered into a hypothetical bet in which he had wagered our head coach would get fired this summer.

That guy would probably feel like a real loser!


His contract was already running through 2020 so hardly a lame duck. Jarmond has revealed himself as looking to be gone from here in the next two or three years. :ace


Did I miss this revelation?


Jarmond wants nothing to do with putting major hires on his resume as he climbs up the ladder. Two year extension to me says he does not plan to be here when action will needed to be taken on JC. :ace


I don’t think this logic pans out. Making successful hires is what builds the AD resume.


It is not a logic view. It is reality. An AD does not necessarily have to make major hires to move up. See the career of Coach Flip. However, making major hires that do not work out can be the end of your career. See Brad Bates. The safe play for Jarmond to move on and up from BC would be a multiple year extension for JC. :ace


Extending a coach is a hiring decision. There's a false premise in your faulty syllogism.
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Re: recruiting 2014 and beyond (h00ps weird0s beat off list)

Postby BCSUPERFAN22 on Wed May 30, 2018 10:27 pm

Not sure if this had been mentioned here, but Mustapha Heron is withdrawing from draft and has decided to transfer from Auburn. He is originally from West Haven, CT and I believe is leaving because his mother is ill, which would allow him to receive a hardship waiver and play immediately.

Apparently he is a strong lean to transfer to St. Johns, but BC was mentioned by Adam Zagoria and apparently Maryland was under serious consideration when he committed originally so there may be a Spinelli connection there? If the goal is to be closer to his family, I would assume SJU would make more sense. Believe he has played 2 years at Auburn and would imagine he would play one more wherever he decides to go based on his draft consideration this year.
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Re: recruiting 2014 and beyond (h00ps weird0s beat off list)

Postby claver2010 on Thu May 31, 2018 8:59 am

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Re: recruiting 2014 and beyond (h00ps weird0s beat off list)

Postby Corporal Funishment on Thu May 31, 2018 9:12 am

Heron is not exactly the kind of recruit we typically get at BC, to put it mildly, in more than one way

From a basketball perspective, BC makes sense for him
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Re: recruiting 2014 and beyond (h00ps weird0s beat off list)

Postby eepstein0 on Thu May 31, 2018 9:40 am

Corporal Funishment wrote:Heron is not exactly the kind of recruit we typically get at BC, to put it mildly, in more than one way

From a basketball perspective, BC makes sense for him


He's obviously better than Chatman and improves the team basketball wise.

I'm a little nervous on the chemistry impact.
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Re: recruiting 2014 and beyond (h00ps weird0s beat off list)

Postby eepstein0 on Thu May 31, 2018 9:51 am

BCSUPERFAN22 wrote:Not sure if this had been mentioned here, but Mustapha Heron is withdrawing from draft and has decided to transfer from Auburn. He is originally from West Haven, CT and I believe is leaving because his mother is ill, which would allow him to receive a hardship waiver and play immediately.

Apparently he is a strong lean to transfer to St. Johns, but BC was mentioned by Adam Zagoria and apparently Maryland was under serious consideration when he committed originally so there may be a Spinelli connection there? If the goal is to be closer to his family, I would assume SJU would make more sense. Believe he has played 2 years at Auburn and would imagine he would play one more wherever he decides to go based on his draft consideration this year.


I'm possibly also going to go all Shaddix here, but St John's can't be that much closer to Waterbury, CT than BC is.
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Re: recruiting 2014 and beyond (h00ps weird0s beat off list)

Postby twballgame9 on Thu May 31, 2018 12:59 pm

eepstein0 wrote:
BCSUPERFAN22 wrote:Not sure if this had been mentioned here, but Mustapha Heron is withdrawing from draft and has decided to transfer from Auburn. He is originally from West Haven, CT and I believe is leaving because his mother is ill, which would allow him to receive a hardship waiver and play immediately.

Apparently he is a strong lean to transfer to St. Johns, but BC was mentioned by Adam Zagoria and apparently Maryland was under serious consideration when he committed originally so there may be a Spinelli connection there? If the goal is to be closer to his family, I would assume SJU would make more sense. Believe he has played 2 years at Auburn and would imagine he would play one more wherever he decides to go based on his draft consideration this year.


I'm possibly also going to go all Shaddix here, but St John's can't be that much closer to Waterbury, CT than BC is.


It's about 50 miles further, so negliglible, and the 50 miles might be made up in traffic if you don't hit Sturbridge or Hartford at bad times.
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Re: recruiting 2014 and beyond (h00ps weird0s beat off list)

Postby BCSUPERFAN22 on Thu May 31, 2018 1:30 pm

eepstein0 wrote:
BCSUPERFAN22 wrote:Not sure if this had been mentioned here, but Mustapha Heron is withdrawing from draft and has decided to transfer from Auburn. He is originally from West Haven, CT and I believe is leaving because his mother is ill, which would allow him to receive a hardship waiver and play immediately.

Apparently he is a strong lean to transfer to St. Johns, but BC was mentioned by Adam Zagoria and apparently Maryland was under serious consideration when he committed originally so there may be a Spinelli connection there? If the goal is to be closer to his family, I would assume SJU would make more sense. Believe he has played 2 years at Auburn and would imagine he would play one more wherever he decides to go based on his draft consideration this year.


I'm possibly also going to go all Shaddix here, but St John's can't be that much closer to Waterbury, CT than BC is.


I was stupidly regurgiatating something I read on the boneyard of all places re: distances and repeated it here. The truth is, you're correct that its splitting hairs to say one is closer than the other especially when BC offers the highest conference profile locally (which I imagine is attractive for him to play a year and bail). Apparently he had a very negative view of Yukon coming out of HS, which may have changed with a new staff in place, but he said something along the lines of Yukon being the last place on earth he would want to play when he was originally deciding, they also may not have room for him with all their scholarships used.
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Re: recruiting 2014 and beyond (h00ps weird0s beat off list)

Postby 2001Eagle on Thu May 31, 2018 1:36 pm

His dad mentioned Fairfield as well. Stag boards are making Rakim comparisons.

http://fairfieldstags.proboards.com/thr ... apha-heron
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Re: recruiting 2014 and beyond (h00ps weird0s beat off list)

Postby eepstein0 on Thu May 31, 2018 1:46 pm

2001Eagle wrote:His dad mentioned Fairfield as well. Stag boards are making Rakim comparisons.

http://fairfieldstags.proboards.com/thr ... apha-heron


He's visiting there on Friday and BC on Saturday.
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Re: recruiting 2014 and beyond (h00ps weird0s beat off list)

Postby claver2010 on Thu May 31, 2018 2:14 pm

2001Eagle wrote:His dad mentioned Fairfield as well. Stag boards are making Rakim comparisons.

http://fairfieldstags.proboards.com/thr ... apha-heron


apparently I've been banned from their forum? weird I don't remember what I could've done to deserve that.

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Re: recruiting 2014 and beyond (h00ps weird0s beat off list)

Postby TobaccoRoadEagle on Thu May 31, 2018 4:35 pm

2001Eagle wrote:His dad mentioned Fairfield as well. Stag boards are making Rakim comparisons.

http://fairfieldstags.proboards.com/thr ... apha-heron

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Re: recruiting 2014 and beyond (h00ps weird0s beat off list)

Postby TobaccoRoadEagle on Thu May 31, 2018 4:36 pm

claver2010 wrote:
2001Eagle wrote:His dad mentioned Fairfield as well. Stag boards are making Rakim comparisons.

http://fairfieldstags.proboards.com/thr ... apha-heron


apparently I've been banned from their forum? weird I don't remember what I could've done to deserve that.

oh well add it to lovely peers like ped state, rcc, boise state & hawaii

i'm pretty sure you meatbombed them. i remember providing the links to photographs
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Re: recruiting 2014 and beyond (h00ps weird0s beat off list)

Postby Corporal Funishment on Thu May 31, 2018 6:41 pm

and the heron has been bagged. That was a fun 22 hours

maybe the tramaine isabell sweepstakes can last through the weekend
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Re: recruiting 2014 and beyond (h00ps weird0s beat off list)

Postby eepstein0 on Thu May 31, 2018 6:49 pm

Corporal Funishment wrote:and the heron has been bagged. That was a fun 22 hours


St John’s outbidding BC is no shocker. Same way he landed at Auburn.
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Re: recruiting 2014 and beyond (h00ps weird0s beat off list)

Postby eepstein0 on Fri Jun 01, 2018 7:47 am

BC is a finalist for Trumaine Isabell. Guard who averaged 21 ppg at Drexel and eligible to play immediately.
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Re: recruiting 2014 and beyond (h00ps weird0s beat off list)

Postby claver2010 on Fri Jun 01, 2018 8:09 am

in a twist, '18 recruit saddiq bey is on campus today. 6-7 195, ranked 131 nationally by 247: https://247sports.com/player/saddiq-bey-46041574

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Re: recruiting 2014 and beyond (h00ps weird0s beat off list)

Postby eepstein0 on Fri Jun 01, 2018 8:44 am

claver2010 wrote:in a twist, '18 recruit saddiq bey is on campus today. 6-7 195, ranked 131 nationally by 247: https://247sports.com/player/saddiq-bey-46041574

signed an LOI to rcc (don't know the backstory). offers from: u, ncst (obviously), Xavier, pitt, yukon, florida, gt, nw, and a bunch of other schools


He looks awesome.
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Re: recruiting 2014 and beyond (h00ps weird0s beat off list)

Postby eepstein0 on Fri Jun 01, 2018 8:53 am

Here's what I have for scholarships below. That leaves 1 spot open for any '18 recruit, transfer or Hawkins. I am assuming if the Hawkins news were to work out they could tell someone to pursue greener pastures.

This team still really needs 1 more impact player to be an NCAA Tournament team.

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Re: recruiting 2014 and beyond (h00ps weird0s beat off list)

Postby Corporal Funishment on Fri Jun 01, 2018 10:16 am

claver2010 wrote:in a twist, '18 recruit saddiq bey is on campus today. 6-7 195, ranked 131 nationally by 247: https://247sports.com/player/saddiq-bey-46041574

signed an LOI to rcc (don't know the backstory). offers from: u, ncst (obviously), Xavier, pitt, yukon, florida, gt, nw, and a bunch of other schools


Unlike the Mustapha Heron situation, this one is straight up BC's (read: Spinelli's) alley

Looks like he visited Wake two days ago, where Danny Manning is still being allowed to play out the string for some reason

This kid can play, although with this last scholarship if Tabbs isn't the real deal one worries that every minute Bowman isn't on the floor next year looks like the end of the Miami game after he fouled out

I think the average expected years on campus for an NC State commit these days is like .4
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Re: recruiting 2014 and beyond (h00ps weird0s beat off list)

Postby eepstein0 on Fri Jun 01, 2018 10:51 am

Corporal Funishment wrote:
claver2010 wrote:in a twist, '18 recruit saddiq bey is on campus today. 6-7 195, ranked 131 nationally by 247: https://247sports.com/player/saddiq-bey-46041574

signed an LOI to rcc (don't know the backstory). offers from: u, ncst (obviously), Xavier, pitt, yukon, florida, gt, nw, and a bunch of other schools


Unlike the Mustapha Heron situation, this one is straight up BC's (read: Spinelli's) alley

Looks like he visited Wake two days ago, where Danny Manning is still being allowed to play out the string for some reason

This kid can play, although with this last scholarship if Tabbs isn't the real deal one worries that every minute Bowman isn't on the floor next year looks like the end of the Miami game after he fouled out

I think the average expected years on campus for an NC State commit these days is like .4


They'll have both Tabbs and Jared Hamilton, who if you watch him has a pretty decent handle. Hamilton's game is a little odd, but I don't see why it wouldn't play on the ACC level.

I'm sure not a big fan of the 5th year guard deal. It's worked out really poorly for BC and the kids they're looking at have the exact same issues that Carter/Humphrey did.

Edit: I'm leaving out Avery Wilson, who I can't see contributing at all based on the disaster that was his season last year.
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Re: recruiting 2014 and beyond (h00ps weird0s beat off list)

Postby 2001Eagle on Fri Jun 01, 2018 12:00 pm

Bey was featured in a NYT article in March (read while drinking a Long Island ice tea at the pool on spring break) about small high academic high schools and I remember scratching my head when it said he was a RCC commit.

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Re: recruiting 2014 and beyond (h00ps weird0s beat off list)

Postby claver2010 on Mon Jun 04, 2018 12:56 pm

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