recruiting 2014 and beyond (h00ps weird0s beat off list)

[hinghameagle]

LDE: I know you said that you cant say more, but if you can, would you be at liberty to specify that it may be an offseason that we will enjoy(new recruit, 5th year), or one we wont(player defections)? thank you. no specific names required.

[TobaccoRoadEagle]

good question, hingham

lde - are you saying that clifford or carter might not be back next year?

[twballgame9]

I can't see any of the freshman leaving unless they hate the coaches. Door's wide open for people to show some talent.

[TobaccoRoadEagle]

I can't see any of the freshman leaving unless they hate the coaches. Door's wide open for people to show some talent.

that's why i'm focusing on carter or clifford. maybe they want to play for a winner at some point in their 6-7 year college career

[hinghameagle]

Twood:

I would suggest that if they are recruiting vital, and the guard from NC, it reasons that one of the guards currently on the roster may not be long for BC.

Graves, Milon, SBT, robinson , hicks, and sometimes owens, plus vital and maybe the NC kid equals too many cooks in the kitchen. The word all along is that they were likely to take a 5th year big. Now they are recruiting guards heavily. The math tells me someone may be on the way out.

[eepstein0]

Twood:

I would suggest that if they are recruiting vital, and the guard from NC, it reasons that one of the guards currently on the roster may not be long for BC.

Graves, Milon, SBT, robinson , hicks, and sometimes owens, plus vital and maybe the NC kid equals too many cooks in the kitchen. The word all along is that they were likely to take a 5th year big. Now they are recruiting guards heavily. The math tells me someone may be on the way out.

- Vital would be a good pull. BC only has 1 PG next year in Graves. JC has said he wants to play 4 around, so they're going to need a million guards. I wouldn't assume one of the guards is leaving. My guess is they'll take 1 of Vital or Bowman.
- They'll obviously take a 5th year big
- I'm encouraged to see them actively improving the roster

[eepstein0]

Vital's also already signed his LOI, so I don't understand how that's going to work

[longdistanceeagle]

There will be several 5th years at the 4 and 5. There will be two frosh PGs. And there will be attrition from the current roster due to coaching decisions. I can't speak to what players would choose to leave of their own volition. Vital was released by UNLV so he is fair game to all.

[BCSUPERFAN22]

There will be several 5th years at the 4 and 5. There will be two frosh PGs. And there will be attrition from the current roster due to coaching decisions. I can't speak to what players would choose to leave of their own volition. Vital was released by UNLV so he is fair game to all.

Again, LDE not asking you to name names, just going to speculate here, but if he is saying 2 FR PGs does that mean the staff feels positive about picking up the kid from NC ?

The Canadian kid who was on campus last week (Mfiondo Kabengele), is he in play LDE ? Would have to think the scholarship situation is a bit tight with 3 current signees and them in pursuit of Bowman and Vital (who is listed as a SG).

As for the defections from the current roster, I could easily see Owens leave (maybe frustration in having to play way out of position all year) and maybe Mezinieks as he is foreign and could potentially go home and play. Maybe Hicks with his injury past (even tho I thought he has played well in spots this year) would transfer down to finish his career, he may be graduating he's been here so long.

[longdistanceeagle]

I cannot comment on players currently on the roster. That isn't fair to anyone. I am just saying that not everyone will be welcomed back. They are actively recruiting a PG and that Bowman and Vital are two of those players.One of the 5th year guys would be a major addition if it pans out, but there is still a long way to go in the process.
One of the interesting ways that the college game has changed is that many of these kids no longer make their own decisions. They are guided by people other than their high school coaches or parents and are told what to do..Coaches may want the kids to stay, the kids might want to stay, but they listen to their, for lack of a better term, "handlers". Sometimes the coaches want the player to leave. When all this works itself out, people can then speculate as to why a kid leaves.
As everyone is obviously aware, there will be a logjam at the wing positions. It will be sorted out.

[longdistanceeagle]

And, yes, the kid from Chicago who was in this past weekend is definitely in play. They really like this kid. BC and FSU at this time are the two most in play.

[BCSUPERFAN22]

Completely understand, thanks for the info

[DavidGordonsFoot]

I cannot comment on players currently on the roster. That isn't fair to anyone. I am just saying that not everyone will be welcomed back. They are actively recruiting a PG and that Bowman and Vital are two of those players.One of the 5th year guys would be a major addition if it pans out, but there is still a long way to go in the process.
One of the interesting ways that the college game has changed is that many of these kids no longer make their own decisions. They are guided by people other than their high school coaches or parents and are told what to do..Coaches may want the kids to stay, the kids might want to stay, but they listen to their, for lack of a better term, "handlers". Sometimes the coaches want the player to leave. When all this works itself out, people can then speculate as to why a kid leaves.
As everyone is obviously aware, there will be a logjam at the wing positions. It will be sorted out.

I don't know why you choose to share with a bunch of asshats like us, but I appreciate it.

[twballgame9]

Frankly, I don't see the logjam on the wings. If Graves is the PG, the wings are Robinson, Turner, SBT and Milon. That's a nice mix, actually. Nothing they are recruiting is better on the wing - they aren't even really recruiting a wing, unless I am missing something. BC's problems are PG and big, especially when the two black holes move on.

I could see Mez moving on, and based on talent, Hicks or Owens, but what options do any of them have? And Owens is just starting to show he could be a useful bench piece. None of the good players are stuck in a log jam.

[DavidGordonsFoot]

If Graves is the PG, the wings are Robinson, Turner, SBT and Milon. That's a nice mix, actually.

Yes, I could live with that.

[twballgame9]

If Graves is the PG, the wings are Robinson, Turner, SBT and Milon. That's a nice mix, actually.

Yes, I could live with that.

Recruit a backup PG and get a decent transfer big, and I would be all set.

1 - Graves, new PG recruit
2 - Robinson, SBT, Hicks
3 - Turner, Milon
4 - Sagay, Popovic, Owens
5 - Diallo, Reyes, 5th year

This means hepstein's boy goes, out of schollies.

[eepstein0]

If Graves is the PG, the wings are Robinson, Turner, SBT and Milon. That's a nice mix, actually.

Yes, I could live with that.

Recruit a backup PG and get a decent transfer big, and I would be all set.

1 - Graves, new PG recruit
2 - Robinson, SBT, Hicks
3 - Turner, Milon
4 - Sagay, Popovic, Owens
5 - Diallo, Reyes, 5th year

This means hepstein's boy goes, out of schollies.

The 5th year better be amazing, because the 4 and 5 is a complete disaster on the above roster.

I have to go to Europe a few times for business the next few months. I will offer to bring Mezinkas back with me. Getting him out of my life is almost as thrilling as the day Dudeck or Lonnie left.

If they're bringing in multiple 5th years, that means more than 1 of those wings is a goner.

I still don't like having both Popovic and Sagay, especially if they really want that kid from Chicago. That is way too many projects.

[eepstein0]

Frankly, I don't see the logjam on the wings. If Graves is the PG, the wings are Robinson, Turner, SBT and Milon. That's a nice mix, actually. Nothing they are recruiting is better on the wing - they aren't even really recruiting a wing, unless I am missing something. BC's problems are PG and big, especially when the two black holes move on.

I could see Mez moving on, and based on talent, Hicks or Owens, but what options do any of them have? And Owens is just starting to show he could be a useful bench piece. None of the good players are stuck in a log jam.

All those guys you mentioned are wings. Owens, Mezinkas and Hicks. None of them are particularly good at basketball.

That kid you and I saw at the Harvard game was Sagay and he was freaking skinny. He is not playing the 4 at his weight.

[twballgame9]

Frankly, I don't see the logjam on the wings. If Graves is the PG, the wings are Robinson, Turner, SBT and Milon. That's a nice mix, actually. Nothing they are recruiting is better on the wing - they aren't even really recruiting a wing, unless I am missing something. BC's problems are PG and big, especially when the two black holes move on.

I could see Mez moving on, and based on talent, Hicks or Owens, but what options do any of them have? And Owens is just starting to show he could be a useful bench piece. None of the good players are stuck in a log jam.

All those guys you mentioned are wings. Owens, Mezinkas and Hicks. None of them are particularly good at basketball.

That kid you and I saw at the Harvard game was Sagay and he was freaking skinny. He is not playing the 4 at his weight.

That kid will be just fine in the ACC

Guys that are wings that should not be on the court were not in my equation. They can all go. There is no logjam, however, there are 4 good wings.

[BCSUPERFAN22]

Don't know if this was mentioned earlier, but BC extended offer today to Jaylen McManus from North Mecklenburg, NC. 6'7 SF with a bunch of smaller offers (per 247) and Maryland apparently showing interest

[2001Eagle]

The pg from NC, bowman?,got a Memphis offer.

[eepstein0]

The pg from NC, bowman?,got a Memphis offer.

A lot of high majors would be involved if it weren't so late in the process. He has a NBA body and athleticism.

[eepstein0]

Frankly, I don't see the logjam on the wings. If Graves is the PG, the wings are Robinson, Turner, SBT and Milon. That's a nice mix, actually. Nothing they are recruiting is better on the wing - they aren't even really recruiting a wing, unless I am missing something. BC's problems are PG and big, especially when the two black holes move on.

I could see Mez moving on, and based on talent, Hicks or Owens, but what options do any of them have? And Owens is just starting to show he could be a useful bench piece. None of the good players are stuck in a log jam.

All those guys you mentioned are wings. Owens, Mezinkas and Hicks. None of them are particularly good at basketball.

That kid you and I saw at the Harvard game was Sagay and he was freaking skinny. He is not playing the 4 at his weight.

That kid will be just fine in the ACC

Guys that are wings that should not be on the court were not in my equation. They can all go. There is no logjam, however, there are 4 good wings.

Considering Diallo is an awful rebounder for his size they need someone at the 4 who can rebound.

I think Sagay will be ridiculous here eventually but not next year

[BCSUPERFAN22]

The pg from NC, bowman?,got a Memphis offer.

A lot of high majors would be involved if it weren't so late in the process. He has a NBA body and athleticism.

I think I read yukon and Tulsa we're going to be in to see him this week too.

[2001Eagle]

The pg from NC, bowman?,got a Memphis offer.

A lot of high majors would be involved if it weren't so late in the process. He has a NBA body and athleticism.

I think I read yukon and Tulsa we're going to be in to see him this week too.

When is signing day?

[twballgame9]

April 13

[JimDog90]

Frankly, I don't see the logjam on the wings. If Graves is the PG, the wings are Robinson, Turner, SBT and Milon. That's a nice mix, actually. Nothing they are recruiting is better on the wing - they aren't even really recruiting a wing, unless I am missing something. BC's problems are PG and big, especially when the two black holes move on.

I could see Mez moving on, and based on talent, Hicks or Owens, but what options do any of them have? And Owens is just starting to show he could be a useful bench piece. None of the good players are stuck in a log jam.

All those guys you mentioned are wings. Owens, Mezinkas and Hicks. None of them are particularly good at basketball.

That kid you and I saw at the Harvard game was Sagay and he was freaking skinny. He is not playing the 4 at his weight.

THIS

Owens and Mezinkas are both undersized PF/4's....6'6ish, 220lb makes you a power forward on this team by default. Mezinkas was supposed to be a sniper from the outside and Owens is limited offensively where ever he plays, but he would be better suited guarding SF than trying to box-out guys consistently bigger and taller than him. Notwithstanding some flashes like SBT's recent play and Milon's shooting vs. the Syracuse zone, a bunch of guys were given plenty of opportunity this season and beyond Robinson no one has consistently distinguished themselves as "keepers". Glad to hear the staff is looking to turn over more of the roster as they continue to try to improve the talent level of the team and develop a rotation of players that can compete at ACC level.

[twballgame9]

They're freshmen and this ain't Kentucky. Whatever he turns over to will suck just as bad until he gets some upperclassmen with talent. there are 4-5 freshmen that could for the core of that.

You guys are kind of funny. They should definitely fix this by running everyone off so the McDonald's All Americans can sign.

[TobaccoRoadEagle]

...They should definitely fix this by running everyone off so the McDonald's All Americans can sign.

didn't you hear about tomas murphy? i think i read that here yesterday

[commavegarage]

i just want to want to go to brooklyn this time next year for the acc tournament because i think we could win a game or two. thats all i want.