recruiting 2014 and beyond (h00ps weird0s beat off list)

[Corporal Funishment]

BC is not recruiting the Newton kid from Texas. JC and Wu are in Illinois today to see Mark Smith of Edwardsville. They also are doing very well with the Euro big at Monteverde.

For those who don't feel like looking it up the big is Sandro Mamukelashvili and he would be a big time pick up for us

[twballgame9]

Tom Crean was evidently at Smith's game Tuesday. Good luck.

[HJS]

any plans of adding an actual point guard (or two, you know, in case one gets hurt, in foul trouble, or can't play 40 minutes every night) and a 4 that can actually play in the acc?

Mark Smith could be a serviceable PG in the mold of Bowman... and Mamukelashvili would be an ACC-quality big... but, we aren't landing either. So, your question remains a good one.

Again... what is incredibly frustrating to me is that when you remove the requirement of a proficient scorer, ball-handling PGs and rebounding PFs are not terribly hard to find or recruit to an ACC school (as most Power 5 programs wouldn't touch either for such a limited non-scoring role).

[twballgame9]

any plans of adding an actual point guard (or two, you know, in case one gets hurt, in foul trouble, or can't play 40 minutes every night) and a 4 that can actually play in the acc?

Mark Smith could be a serviceable PG in the mold of Bowman...

I think he meant an actual PG.

[cremins]

welcome back LDE, we missed you and your information. thoughts on bowman? do you see this happening this quickly for him?

[HJS]

any plans of adding an actual point guard (or two, you know, in case one gets hurt, in foul trouble, or can't play 40 minutes every night) and a 4 that can actually play in the acc?

Mark Smith could be a serviceable PG in the mold of Bowman...

I think he meant an actual PG.

I think the focus on having a true PG is way overblown. We aren't losing games because of Robinson and Bowman in the backcourt. We are losing games because there isn't enough talent after them. Turner and Pop are ACC-caliber, but it is hard to make an argument that anyone beyond those 4 should be anything but a 7th or 8th guy.

[longdistanceeagle]

There is a 5th year point guard who has contacted the staff who understands he would play 8-10 minutes behind Bowman and is fine with that. he wants to play in the ACC. He would be a very good fit. Obviously, that name can't be put out there. And regarding Mark Smith, he contacted them after the UNC game and was very complimentary. It's well worth the visit. He would be a 1 2 or 3.

[Corporal Funishment]

Norm Sanders ‏@NormSanders 2h2 hours ago
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Latest recruiting update on @ehstigershoops guard @Mark_Smith_13 : Indiana saw him Tues., Kansas & Boston College at practice today #Illini

[twballgame9]

any plans of adding an actual point guard (or two, you know, in case one gets hurt, in foul trouble, or can't play 40 minutes every night) and a 4 that can actually play in the acc?

Mark Smith could be a serviceable PG in the mold of Bowman...

I think he meant an actual PG.

I think the focus on having a true PG is way overblown. We aren't losing games because of Robinson and Bowman in the backcourt. We are losing games because there isn't enough talent after them. Turner and Pop are ACC-caliber, but it is hard to make an argument that anyone beyond those 4 should be anything but a 7th or 8th guy.

There's a difference between saying that they are the cause of the losses, and saying that they aren't PGs. They wouldn't be in games without those guys. But they are not PGs. I did not watch yesterday, but they turn the ball over a shit ton. Just getting the ball into offensive sets is a chore for this backcourt. And Bowman would find scoring even easier if he didn't have ball handling responsibility - it certainly helps Robinson not to have to bring it up. They would have beaten UNC without some of the brutal first half turnovers - Bowman had 8 of them. They each had 5 in the Duke game.

You can accept some turnovers from your scorers, but you want them to occur when they are aggressive trying to score, not just possessing the rock or passing on the perimeter. They can certainly survive and get better with Bowman at the point by adding some more pieces and getting him a backup, but they'd be better if he were at the 2 and spelling at the point.

[HJS]

You can accept some turnovers from your scorers, but you want them to occur when they are aggressive trying to score, not just possessing the rock or passing on the perimeter. They can certainly survive and get better with Bowman at the point by adding some more pieces and getting him a backup, but they'd be better if he were at the 2 and spelling at the point.

I'd argue that it is harder for us to pass on the perimeter because teams don't have any concern about our interior game. We are the perfect team to overplay because there is absolutely no one to be concerned about beating you in the paint. Point being if we still had Graves, I don't see a situation where the turnovers would be significantly less.

[TobaccoRoadEagle]

any plans of adding an actual point guard (or two, you know, in case one gets hurt, in foul trouble, or can't play 40 minutes every night) and a 4 that can actually play in the acc?

Mark Smith could be a serviceable PG in the mold of Bowman...

I think he meant an actual PG.

good job reading the (not between but the actual) lines, teddy

[twballgame9]

You can accept some turnovers from your scorers, but you want them to occur when they are aggressive trying to score, not just possessing the rock or passing on the perimeter. They can certainly survive and get better with Bowman at the point by adding some more pieces and getting him a backup, but they'd be better if he were at the 2 and spelling at the point.

I'd argue that it is harder for us to pass on the perimeter because teams don't have any concern about our interior game. We are the perfect team to overplay because there is absolutely no one to be concerned about beating you in the paint. Point being if we still had Graves, I don't see a situation where the turnovers would be significantly less.

Whether Graves was a PG is also debatable. The point actually is that if BC had a PG, the turnovers would be less.

[Tom Dooder]

There is a 5th year point guard who has contacted the staff who understands he would play 8-10 minutes behind Bowman and is fine with that. he wants to play in the ACC. He would be a very good fit. Obviously, that name can't be put out there. And regarding Mark Smith, he contacted them after the UNC game and was very complimentary. It's well worth the visit. He would be a 1 2 or 3.

Thanks LDE. So they are going for Smith and the 5th year simultaneously that would leave two more open spots. Being optimistic for a minute, adding Mamukelashvili would leave one spot for another 5th year man with Jeffers and Tava graduating.


PG:5th year transfer/Bowman(soph)
SG: Robinson(JR)/Chatman(JR)/Smith(Fr.)
SF: Turner (JR)/Meznieks(JR)/Sagay(Soph)
PF:Popovic(Soph)/Reyes(Soph)/Kraljević(Fr.)/Mamukelashvili(Fr.)
C:????

[MF73-Eleazar]

We are going to get so hammered in the paint unless this can be fixed. Also, if that 5th yr PG can come in and play more than 8-10 minutes specifically to limit turnovers...

[BCSUPERFAN22]

BC officially offered Mark Smith today as well as Tim Finke, an '18 SG from Champaign, IL (offers from Butler, Pitt, Mizzou, Vandy, K-State, Oregon, Iowa State, Marquette, USC, ND and Northwestern

[longdistanceeagle]

And Finke's brother is a potential 5th year 6'10" 5 man at Illinois. They're potentially hoping for a package deal.

[twballgame9]

That Finke kid must weigh at least 60 pounds

[ILikeBC]

For just 5¢ a day you can feed a starving child in Urbana

[BCSUPERFAN22]

And Finke's brother is a potential 5th year 6'10" 5 man at Illinois. They're potentially hoping for a package deal.

At first I didn't understand the package deal thing as the younger is an '18, but the Finke at Illinois is listed as a RS Soph this year. Does that mean he would graduate a year early (after this season) and be able to play 2 years immediately, 1 with his brother in 2018 if both were to commit.

[bluefishskip]

Finke at Illinois would be a RS Jr (4th yr at school) when his brother is a Hs Sr. 1 year together would be 18-19 season if it were to happen

[longdistanceeagle]

The post about Finke's brother was a mistake. I misunderstood what I was told about the brother at Illinois. I thought was a senior and jumped to a conclusion I should not have. Not that what I post is a big deal, but sorry to have misled anybody. I presumed something that I should not have. I'll try to do better in the future.

[TobaccoRoadEagle]

no worries - funishment still lusts you

[eepstein0]

The post about Finke's brother was a mistake. I misunderstood what I was told about the brother at Illinois. I thought was a senior and jumped to a conclusion I should not have. Not that what I post is a big deal, but sorry to have misled anybody. I presumed something that I should not have. I'll try to do better in the future.

Don't apologize to these idiots

[twballgame9]

The post about Finke's brother was a mistake. I misunderstood what I was told about the brother at Illinois. I thought was a senior and jumped to a conclusion I should not have. Not that what I post is a big deal, but sorry to have misled anybody. I presumed something that I should not have. I'll try to do better in the future.

Don't apologize to these idiots

Yeah because Sister Christian has never been wrong before. She's motoring.

[BCSUPERFAN22]

The post about Finke's brother was a mistake. I misunderstood what I was told about the brother at Illinois. I thought was a senior and jumped to a conclusion I should not have. Not that what I post is a big deal, but sorry to have misled anybody. I presumed something that I should not have. I'll try to do better in the future.

I wasn't trying to poke holes in your info, Was just trying to connect the dots about how it could potentially play out.

It could make logical sense that, because he RS'd, he could graduate this year (3 academic years w/ summer sessions ?), which is why I was wondering if he would have 2 years of eligibility left (meaning he would play 1 year with his brother at BC).

[eepstein0]

What's the gameplan at PF next year? The correct answer is not the 180 lb Euro kid or Sagay.

There is also no depth behind Popovic. I can't imagine the staff has high hopes for Reyes at this point considering how athletic he is and he can't get off the bench

[MF73-Eleazar]

Reyes looks REALLY skinny. Long arms, can dunk, but gets bodied constantly, looks like he's a little lost when out on the court.

[eepstein0]

Reyes looks REALLY skinny. Long arms, can dunk, but gets bodied constantly, looks like he's a little lost when out on the court.

This staff has struggled to develop athletic big men. Both Reyes and Diallo are great athletes but look clueless.

By the way being able to dunk is a given unless we recruit Caudill Jr or something

[MF73-Eleazar]

Kinda sad that Diallo couldn't stick. Wasn't meant to be.

[NJM89]

That Euro big from FL would be a perfect combo with Pop at the 4-5. Then hopefully some fifth year big pops up at the end of the year.