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Re: recruiting 2014 and beyond (h00ps weird0s beat off list)

Postby twballgame9 on Wed Oct 15, 2014 3:44 pm

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Re: recruiting 2014 and beyond (h00ps weird0s beat off list)

Postby DavidGordonsFoot on Wed Oct 15, 2014 3:53 pm

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HJS {l Wrote}:Is there news on Sharma? There is supposedly someone on the EA BB board saying that he has dropped BC. I can't find anything online. Though it seems Wisco just picked up a PF. Adding everything up (coupled with his dad's job transfer)... it would suggest that his last visit won his services.


Onto Plan C (i.e. Donahue level recruits.). Can't wait

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Re: recruiting 2014 and beyond (h00ps weird0s beat off list)

Postby twballgame9 on Wed Oct 15, 2014 3:58 pm

DavidGordonsFoot {l Wrote}:
eepstein0 {l Wrote}:
HJS {l Wrote}:Is there news on Sharma? There is supposedly someone on the EA BB board saying that he has dropped BC. I can't find anything online. Though it seems Wisco just picked up a PF. Adding everything up (coupled with his dad's job transfer)... it would suggest that his last visit won his services.


Onto Plan C (i.e. Donahue level recruits.). Can't wait

No one could be worse than beeker.


The current class would have been one of beeker's best efforts, without landing anyone else.
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Re: recruiting 2014 and beyond (h00ps weird0s beat off list)

Postby eepstein0 on Wed Oct 15, 2014 6:09 pm

twballgame9 {l Wrote}:
DavidGordonsFoot {l Wrote}:
eepstein0 {l Wrote}:
HJS {l Wrote}:Is there news on Sharma? There is supposedly someone on the EA BB board saying that he has dropped BC. I can't find anything online. Though it seems Wisco just picked up a PF. Adding everything up (coupled with his dad's job transfer)... it would suggest that his last visit won his services.


Onto Plan C (i.e. Donahue level recruits.). Can't wait

No one could be worse than beeker.


The current class would have been one of beeker's best efforts, without landing anyone else.


That's not good. Its like saying Beeker's classes would've been #1 in the NESCAC. The current class is not good in the realm of the conference we play in. I feel like people forget around here that we play in the ACC...
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Re: recruiting 2014 and beyond (h00ps weird0s beat off list)

Postby ATLeagle on Wed Oct 15, 2014 7:37 pm

I don't want to rationalize JC's mediocre recruiting so far, but I don't think they are worried about losing Sharma. I think they would rather load up on transfers.
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Re: recruiting 2014 and beyond (h00ps weird0s beat off list)

Postby DavidGordonsFoot on Wed Oct 15, 2014 7:50 pm

eepstein0 {l Wrote}:I feel like people forget around here that we play in the ACC...

That's why we keep you around.
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Re: recruiting 2014 and beyond (h00ps weird0s beat off list)

Postby hinghameagle on Wed Oct 15, 2014 10:02 pm

ATL: you don't like this class as currently constituted? Does adding McDuffie do anything for you, if it happens?
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Re: recruiting 2014 and beyond (h00ps weird0s beat off list)

Postby Cadillac90 on Thu Oct 16, 2014 6:36 am

eepstein0 {l Wrote}:
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:
DavidGordonsFoot {l Wrote}:
eepstein0 {l Wrote}:
HJS {l Wrote}:Is there news on Sharma? There is supposedly someone on the EA BB board saying that he has dropped BC. I can't find anything online. Though it seems Wisco just picked up a PF. Adding everything up (coupled with his dad's job transfer)... it would suggest that his last visit won his services.


Onto Plan C (i.e. Donahue level recruits.). Can't wait

No one could be worse than beeker.


The current class would have been one of beeker's best efforts, without landing anyone else.


That's not good. Its like saying Beeker's classes would've been #1 in the NESCAC. The current class is not good in the realm of the conference we play in. I feel like people forget around here that we play in the ACC...


I hate agreeing with eepstein0 but I have to in this case.
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Re: recruiting 2014 and beyond (h00ps weird0s beat off list)

Postby eepstein0 on Thu Oct 16, 2014 7:15 am

ATLeagle {l Wrote}:I don't want to rationalize JC's mediocre recruiting so far, but I don't think they are worried about losing Sharma. I think they would rather load up on transfers.


So we're going to suck this year and next? Seems like a good strategy for a new coach.

The transfer thing has worked (see Iowa St)
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Re: recruiting 2014 and beyond (h00ps weird0s beat off list)

Postby twballgame9 on Thu Oct 16, 2014 8:48 am

I'd also note that an obscure thing called "playing defense" will instantly make this team a lot better with no recruits. Adding a rim protector, teaching defense and instilling some offensive principles beyond "dribble off your foot" and "chuck threes" will go a long way.

If ATL is suggesting that the coaching staff is poo-poo-ing local top 100 talent like Sharma and Falzon in favor of transfers, well then I look forward to the next coaching staff, which will be here soon. The only good thing about the hiring of this underwhelming shitty basketball staff was the prospects for recruiting in the area. Now all of a sudden the deepest basketball recruiting area in the country over the past couple of years gets ignored for transfers?

Sounds like an excuse.
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Re: recruiting 2014 and beyond (h00ps weird0s beat off list)

Postby JesuitIvy on Thu Oct 16, 2014 8:58 am

Yeah, this is starting to feel a lot like Donahue -- ignoring locals, rejecting committed 4 star kids. It reeks of trying to make sure you have enough excuses to stay employed the length of your contract.
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Re: recruiting 2014 and beyond (h00ps weird0s beat off list)

Postby commavegarage on Thu Oct 16, 2014 10:14 am

twballgame9 {l Wrote}:I'd also note that an obscure thing called "playing defense" will instantly make this team a lot better with no recruits. Adding a rim protector, teaching defense and instilling some offensive principles beyond "dribble off your foot" and "chuck threes" will go a long way.

If ATL is suggesting that the coaching staff is poo-poo-ing local top 100 talent like Sharma and Falzon in favor of transfers, well then I look forward to the next coaching staff, which will be here soon. The only good thing about the hiring of this underwhelming shitty basketball staff was the prospects for recruiting in the area. Now all of a sudden the deepest basketball recruiting area in the country over the past couple of years gets ignored for transfers?

Sounds like an excuse.


don't forget, atl also thinks Ryan Day is Chip Kelly 4.0.
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Re: recruiting 2014 and beyond (h00ps weird0s beat off list)

Postby BCEagles25 on Thu Oct 16, 2014 11:29 am

if we strike out on Sharma and McDuffie, I think we should take Miller. if nothing else, he is an ACC level backup. and maybe he'll live up to his four-star potential. low risk considering there's 7 spots to fill and only 3 of them are occupied.
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Re: recruiting 2014 and beyond (h00ps weird0s beat off list)

Postby ATLeagle on Thu Oct 16, 2014 2:31 pm

hinghameagle {l Wrote}:ATL: you don't like this class as currently constituted? Does adding McDuffie do anything for you, if it happens?


I don't know enough about any recruits to know if this class is any good. With McDuffie it would seem good on paper.
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Re: recruiting 2014 and beyond (h00ps weird0s beat off list)

Postby ATLeagle on Thu Oct 16, 2014 2:35 pm

twballgame9 {l Wrote}:I'd also note that an obscure thing called "playing defense" will instantly make this team a lot better with no recruits. Adding a rim protector, teaching defense and instilling some offensive principles beyond "dribble off your foot" and "chuck threes" will go a long way.

If ATL is suggesting that the coaching staff is poo-poo-ing local top 100 talent like Sharma and Falzon in favor of transfers, well then I look forward to the next coaching staff, which will be here soon. The only good thing about the hiring of this underwhelming shitty basketball staff was the prospects for recruiting in the area. Now all of a sudden the deepest basketball recruiting area in the country over the past couple of years gets ignored for transfers?

Sounds like an excuse.


The gossip is that Spanelli and Murphy are recruiting hard locally but JC's not the greatest closer. I think it is a shame that we cannot do better locally.

Supposedly the transfer strategy is that you can get some older players right away and win faster. I also think like Iowa State and GW, there is the belief that with transfers you can more readily project how they will play in the ACC because you have some data about them at a high level.
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Re: recruiting 2014 and beyond (h00ps weird0s beat off list)

Postby twballgame9 on Thu Oct 16, 2014 2:54 pm

ATLeagle {l Wrote}:
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:I'd also note that an obscure thing called "playing defense" will instantly make this team a lot better with no recruits. Adding a rim protector, teaching defense and instilling some offensive principles beyond "dribble off your foot" and "chuck threes" will go a long way.

If ATL is suggesting that the coaching staff is poo-poo-ing local top 100 talent like Sharma and Falzon in favor of transfers, well then I look forward to the next coaching staff, which will be here soon. The only good thing about the hiring of this underwhelming shitty basketball staff was the prospects for recruiting in the area. Now all of a sudden the deepest basketball recruiting area in the country over the past couple of years gets ignored for transfers?

Sounds like an excuse.


The gossip is that Spanelli and Murphy are recruiting hard locally but JC's not the greatest closer. I think it is a shame that we cannot do better locally.

Supposedly the transfer strategy is that you can get some older players right away and win faster. I also think like Iowa State and GW, there is the belief that with transfers you can more readily project how they will play in the ACC because you have some data about them at a high level.


This is like Texas hiring a shitty football coach and deciding to go the JUCO route because the shitty coach cant' close local prospects.

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Re: recruiting 2014 and beyond (h00ps weird0s beat off list)

Postby Cadillac90 on Thu Oct 16, 2014 3:04 pm

ATLeagle {l Wrote}:
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:I'd also note that an obscure thing called "playing defense" will instantly make this team a lot better with no recruits. Adding a rim protector, teaching defense and instilling some offensive principles beyond "dribble off your foot" and "chuck threes" will go a long way.

If ATL is suggesting that the coaching staff is poo-poo-ing local top 100 talent like Sharma and Falzon in favor of transfers, well then I look forward to the next coaching staff, which will be here soon. The only good thing about the hiring of this underwhelming shitty basketball staff was the prospects for recruiting in the area. Now all of a sudden the deepest basketball recruiting area in the country over the past couple of years gets ignored for transfers?

Sounds like an excuse.


The gossip is that Spanelli and Murphy are recruiting hard locally but JC's not the greatest closer. I think it is a shame that we cannot do better locally.

Supposedly the transfer strategy is that you can get some older players right away and win faster. I also think like Iowa State and GW, there is the belief that with transfers you can more readily project how they will play in the ACC because you have some data about them at a high level.


Does this surprise anyone? This was a crappy hire from the beginning so hearing shit like this is what I would expect from MR. .500 at TCU.
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Re: recruiting 2014 and beyond (h00ps weird0s beat off list)

Postby eagle9903 on Thu Oct 16, 2014 3:26 pm

ATLeagle {l Wrote}:
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:I'd also note that an obscure thing called "playing defense" will instantly make this team a lot better with no recruits. Adding a rim protector, teaching defense and instilling some offensive principles beyond "dribble off your foot" and "chuck threes" will go a long way.

If ATL is suggesting that the coaching staff is poo-poo-ing local top 100 talent like Sharma and Falzon in favor of transfers, well then I look forward to the next coaching staff, which will be here soon. The only good thing about the hiring of this underwhelming shitty basketball staff was the prospects for recruiting in the area. Now all of a sudden the deepest basketball recruiting area in the country over the past couple of years gets ignored for transfers?

Sounds like an excuse.


The gossip is that Spanelli and Murphy are recruiting hard locally but JC's not the greatest closer. I think it is a shame that we cannot do better locally.

Supposedly the transfer strategy is that you can get some older players right away and win faster. I also think like Iowa State and GW, there is the belief that with transfers you can more readily project how they will play in the ACC because you have some data about them at a high level.


I wont delve into sirius bizness but this absolutely shouts agenda from Mo'JTL
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Re: recruiting 2014 and beyond (h00ps weird0s beat off list)

Postby DavidGordonsFoot on Thu Oct 16, 2014 3:29 pm

eagle9903 {l Wrote}:Mo'JTL

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Re: recruiting 2014 and beyond (h00ps weird0s beat off list)

Postby twballgame9 on Thu Oct 16, 2014 3:36 pm

eagle9903 {l Wrote}:
ATLeagle {l Wrote}:
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:I'd also note that an obscure thing called "playing defense" will instantly make this team a lot better with no recruits. Adding a rim protector, teaching defense and instilling some offensive principles beyond "dribble off your foot" and "chuck threes" will go a long way.

If ATL is suggesting that the coaching staff is poo-poo-ing local top 100 talent like Sharma and Falzon in favor of transfers, well then I look forward to the next coaching staff, which will be here soon. The only good thing about the hiring of this underwhelming shitty basketball staff was the prospects for recruiting in the area. Now all of a sudden the deepest basketball recruiting area in the country over the past couple of years gets ignored for transfers?

Sounds like an excuse.


The gossip is that Spanelli and Murphy are recruiting hard locally but JC's not the greatest closer. I think it is a shame that we cannot do better locally.

Supposedly the transfer strategy is that you can get some older players right away and win faster. I also think like Iowa State and GW, there is the belief that with transfers you can more readily project how they will play in the ACC because you have some data about them at a high level.


I wont delve into sirius bizness but this absolutely shouts agenda from Mo'JTL


You mean Mrs. Chip Kelly 4.0 might have agenda?
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Re: recruiting 2014 and beyond (h00ps weird0s beat off list)

Postby commavegarage on Thu Oct 16, 2014 3:37 pm

You mean hiring good assistants and a dogshit head coach leads to the assistant coaches doing a good job on the recruiting trail and the head coach doing a dogshit job of closing?!?!?!?

TELL ME MORE!!!
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Re: recruiting 2014 and beyond (h00ps weird0s beat off list)

Postby DavidGordonsFoot on Thu Oct 16, 2014 3:47 pm

commavegarage {l Wrote}:You mean hiring good assistants and a dogshit head coach leads to the assistant coaches doing a good job on the recruiting trail and the head coach doing a dogshit job of closing?!?!?!?

TELL ME MORE!!!

Are you sitting down?

There was an article in yesterday's Herald with quotes from said dogshit head coach about how good Dennis Clifford looks.
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Re: recruiting 2014 and beyond (h00ps weird0s beat off list)

Postby commavegarage on Thu Oct 16, 2014 3:51 pm

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Re: recruiting 2014 and beyond (h00ps weird0s beat off list)

Postby claver2010 on Thu Oct 16, 2014 3:54 pm

DavidGordonsFoot {l Wrote}:
commavegarage {l Wrote}:You mean hiring good assistants and a dogshit head coach leads to the assistant coaches doing a good job on the recruiting trail and the head coach doing a dogshit job of closing?!?!?!?

TELL ME MORE!!!

Are you sitting down?

There was an article in yesterday's Herald with quotes from said dogshit head coach about how good Dennis Clifford looks.


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Re: recruiting 2014 and beyond (h00ps weird0s beat off list)

Postby DavidGordonsFoot on Thu Oct 16, 2014 3:56 pm

claver2010 {l Wrote}:
DavidGordonsFoot {l Wrote}:
commavegarage {l Wrote}:You mean hiring good assistants and a dogshit head coach leads to the assistant coaches doing a good job on the recruiting trail and the head coach doing a dogshit job of closing?!?!?!?

TELL ME MORE!!!

Are you sitting down?

There was an article in yesterday's Herald with quotes from said dogshit head coach about how good Dennis Clifford looks.


anything on caudill being in the best shape of his life?

i'm thrilled patrick ewing is back and will be performing at his high level


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Re: recruiting 2014 and beyond (h00ps weird0s beat off list)

Postby Cadillac90 on Thu Oct 16, 2014 4:08 pm

I hope everyone doesn't get too excited when they go 15-15 this year and say "you see, Coach Jim is a really good coach, look what he did with an 8 win team."
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Re: recruiting 2014 and beyond (h00ps weird0s beat off list)

Postby Boston College 8 on Thu Oct 16, 2014 5:47 pm

can people be like other boards and just be positive about this team. we are getting better recruits than the last 4 plus years. does anyone else see that. right now turner, milon, and robinson is a solid class. an acc class. can everyone just be happy for once.
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Re: recruiting 2014 and beyond (h00ps weird0s beat off list)

Postby Boston College 8 on Thu Oct 16, 2014 5:50 pm

yeah and if we get mcduffie this would be our best class since 2008. if we get Sharma and Mcduffie it would be our best class since the 1990's. and that is in year ONE. does anyone get that. give me a break. if you're already saying he's a bad coach or a bad recruiter just get off this site. do something better with your time than complain about this team. if you're gonna be on this then be positive for once.
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Re: recruiting 2014 and beyond (h00ps weird0s beat off list)

Postby ATLeagle on Thu Oct 16, 2014 5:55 pm

eagle9903 {l Wrote}:
ATLeagle {l Wrote}:
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:I'd also note that an obscure thing called "playing defense" will instantly make this team a lot better with no recruits. Adding a rim protector, teaching defense and instilling some offensive principles beyond "dribble off your foot" and "chuck threes" will go a long way.

If ATL is suggesting that the coaching staff is poo-poo-ing local top 100 talent like Sharma and Falzon in favor of transfers, well then I look forward to the next coaching staff, which will be here soon. The only good thing about the hiring of this underwhelming shitty basketball staff was the prospects for recruiting in the area. Now all of a sudden the deepest basketball recruiting area in the country over the past couple of years gets ignored for transfers?

Sounds like an excuse.


The gossip is that Spanelli and Murphy are recruiting hard locally but JC's not the greatest closer. I think it is a shame that we cannot do better locally.

Supposedly the transfer strategy is that you can get some older players right away and win faster. I also think like Iowa State and GW, there is the belief that with transfers you can more readily project how they will play in the ACC because you have some data about them at a high level.


I wont delve into sirius bizness but this absolutely shouts agenda from Mo'JTL


I don't know if you can call it an agenda. I think Christian is better than Don and will be an okay-ish coach and gone in a few years of his own volition. As far as me spreading rumors about Spanelli or Murphy to carry favor with them, I don't know either and haven't tried to cultivate anything from them. The gossip I get on the staff comes from people who cannot spread it themselves.
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Re: recruiting 2014 and beyond (h00ps weird0s beat off list)

Postby DavidGordonsFoot on Thu Oct 16, 2014 6:03 pm

Boston College 8 {l Wrote}:yeah and if we get mcduffie this would be our best class since 2008. if we get Sharma and Mcduffie it would be our best class since the 1990's. and that is in year ONE. does anyone get that. give me a break. if you're already saying he's a bad coach or a bad recruiter just get off this site. do something better with your time than complain about this team. if you're gonna be on this then be positive for once.

I, for one, welcome Coach Pitino to EO. Pull up your pants, I mean, a chair.
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