HustlinOwl {l Wrote}:MaroonNgold, if you were the current AD at BC what would you do to save the program?
MaroonNGold {l Wrote}:eagle9903 {l Wrote}:MaroonNGold {l Wrote}:twballgame9 {l Wrote}:If beeker sign Michael Jordan I will be pissed. Get. The fuck. Out.
Back, as always, to the question y'all can't realistically address:
And who will replace him?
If I'm following your ramblings correctly and I'm almost certainly not because they are internally inconsistent, the great crime was firing Al and the very bad Donahue hire didn't much matter. I don't understand the leap from Al's firing to irreversible program ruination. Specifically, On what planet is bc basketball in worse shape now than it was after your boy JOB lit a cigarette next to the gas pump on his way out the door?
Please realistically address this question.
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Well now, 9903, let's take a look at some FACTS, as opposed to vacant accusation.
1. You say JOB "lit a cigarette next to the gas pump on his way out the door."
A. Care to explain that?
B. Leahy dismissed HIM; Jim did not choose to leave BC, where he was a star player and which he loved. HE did nothing to harm the program. Instead, when he was let go, his class of 4 prized recruits all decided, on their own, that BC was no place for them. And Scoonie Penn held Jim in such high esteem that he elected to transfer to OSU and wait out a year. The loss of all those players is due to Leahy's rash, temper-tantrum action when his lower the admissions policy for athletes was revealed in the Globe.
C. Those, my boy, are the FACTS.
2. As to the Al firing:
A. Almost all the chirpers on this and similar boards were doing four years ago what y'all are doing now: savaging the head coach and demanding his ouster.
B. You got what you wanted, and now you're stuck with a program plummeting to the bottom of the basketball ocean. So, what do you do? Why, of course, you revert to the visceral, tired insults and coach bashing.
C. My point is that the axing of Al DID have long-term negative effects on the program. Want some? Here are just two:
(i) Look at our record since he left (even considering that AL'S players got Don into the NCAA in 2010-2011).
(ii) Check the BYU-like roster we now have: four blacks out of 17. Do you think that is a coincidence? How do you explain that? We are nowhere near getting the quality of player that Al, JOB and their predecessors brought here. Why is THAT?
D. Sure, had BC been able to hire a first-rate coach to succeed Al, the disintegration of this program might not have happened. But the harsh reality is that NO such coach wanted any part of this place. Why is that? Take a guess.
E. Donahue was hired because of what he did in his last 4 years at Cornell. Understandably, the press he got made him "hot" then. But did he beat out any front-line coach? Yes, he did, in Bill Coen and Ed Cooley, whom GDF interviewed but would not touch with a 1000 foot pole, because their "sin" was their connection to the coach whom GDF and Leahy stupidly fired.
In sum: The question I keep asking - and which y'all duck because you have NO answer is: who will come here if Don is let go?
Answers, please - if you have any.
Otherwise, save us the Pavlovian insults - you only demean yourselves with them.
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Well now, 9903, let's take a look at some FACTS, as opposed to vacant accusation.
1. You say JOB "lit a cigarette next to the gas pump on his way out the door."
A. Care to explain that?
B. Leahy dismissed HIM; Jim did not choose to leave BC, where he was a star player and which he loved. HE did nothing to harm the program. Instead, when he was let go, his class of 4 prized recruits all decided, on their own, that BC was no place for them. And Scoonie Penn held Jim in such high esteem that he elected to transfer to OSU and wait out a year. The loss of all those players is due to Leahy's rash, temper-tantrum action when his lower the admissions policy for athletes was revealed in the Globe.
C. Those, my boy, are the FACTS.
2. As to the Al firing:
A. Almost all the chirpers on this and similar boards were doing four years ago what y'all are doing now: savaging the head coach and demanding his ouster.
B. You got what you wanted, and now you're stuck with a program plummeting to the bottom of the basketball ocean. So, what do you do? Why, of course, you revert to the visceral, tired insults and coach bashing.
C. My point is that the axing of Al DID have long-term negative effects on the program. Want some? Here are just two:
(i) Look at our record since he left (even considering that AL'S players got Don into the NCAA in 2010-2011).
(ii) Check the BYU-like roster we now have: four blacks out of 17. Do you think that is a coincidence? How do you explain that? We are nowhere near getting the quality of player that Al, JOB and their predecessors brought here. Why is THAT?
D. Sure, had BC been able to hire a first-rate coach to succeed Al, the disintegration of this program might not have happened. But the harsh reality is that NO such coach wanted any part of this place. Why is that? Take a guess.
E. Donahue was hired because of what he did in his last 4 years at Cornell. Understandably, the press he got made him "hot" then. But did he beat out any front-line coach? Yes, he did, in Bill Coen and Ed Cooley, whom GDF interviewed but would not touch with a 1000 foot pole, because their "sin" was their connection to the coach whom GDF and Leahy stupidly fired.
In sum: The question I keep asking - and which y'all duck because you have NO answer is: who will come here if Don is let go?
Answers, please - if you have any.
Otherwise, save us the Pavlovian insults - you only demean yourselves with them.
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:I can't believe I waited for that whole message to marquee across the screen.
Logitano {l Wrote}:MaroonNGold {l Wrote}:eagle9903 {l Wrote}:MaroonNGold {l Wrote}:twballgame9 {l Wrote}:If beeker sign Michael Jordan I will be pissed. Get. The fuck. Out.
Back, as always, to the question y'all can't realistically address:
And who will replace him?
If I'm following your ramblings correctly and I'm almost certainly not because they are internally inconsistent, the great crime was firing Al and the very bad Donahue hire didn't much matter. I don't understand the leap from Al's firing to irreversible program ruination. Specifically, On what planet is bc basketball in worse shape now than it was after your boy JOB lit a cigarette next to the gas pump on his way out the door?
Please realistically address this question.
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Well now, 9903, let's take a look at some FACTS, as opposed to vacant accusation.
1. You say JOB "lit a cigarette next to the gas pump on his way out the door."
A. Care to explain that?
B. Leahy dismissed HIM; Jim did not choose to leave BC, where he was a star player and which he loved. HE did nothing to harm the program. Instead, when he was let go, his class of 4 prized recruits all decided, on their own, that BC was no place for them. And Scoonie Penn held Jim in such high esteem that he elected to transfer to OSU and wait out a year. The loss of all those players is due to Leahy's rash, temper-tantrum action when his lower the admissions policy for athletes was revealed in the Globe.
C. Those, my boy, are the FACTS.
2. As to the Al firing:
A. Almost all the chirpers on this and similar boards were doing four years ago what y'all are doing now: savaging the head coach and demanding his ouster.
B. You got what you wanted, and now you're stuck with a program plummeting to the bottom of the basketball ocean. So, what do you do? Why, of course, you revert to the visceral, tired insults and coach bashing.
C. My point is that the axing of Al DID have long-term negative effects on the program. Want some? Here are just two:
(i) Look at our record since he left (even considering that AL'S players got Don into the NCAA in 2010-2011).
(ii) Check the BYU-like roster we now have: four blacks out of 17. Do you think that is a coincidence? How do you explain that? We are nowhere near getting the quality of player that Al, JOB and their predecessors brought here. Why is THAT?
D. Sure, had BC been able to hire a first-rate coach to succeed Al, the disintegration of this program might not have happened. But the harsh reality is that NO such coach wanted any part of this place. Why is that? Take a guess.
E. Donahue was hired because of what he did in his last 4 years at Cornell. Understandably, the press he got made him "hot" then. But did he beat out any front-line coach? Yes, he did, in Bill Coen and Ed Cooley, whom GDF interviewed but would not touch with a 1000 foot pole, because their "sin" was their connection to the coach whom GDF and Leahy stupidly fired.
In sum: The question I keep asking - and which y'all duck because you have NO answer is: who will come here if Don is let go?
Answers, please - if you have any.
Otherwise, save us the Pavlovian insults - you only demean yourselves with them.
Scoonie Penn had failed out of Boston College so there was no future for him at BC. Since you got a basic fact wrong hard to believe the rest of it.
HustlinOwl {l Wrote}:MaroonNgold, if you were the current AD at BC what would you do to save the program?
MaroonNGold {l Wrote}:HustlinOwl {l Wrote}:MaroonNgold, if you were the current AD at BC what would you do to save the program?
The most important thing he must do is rehab BC's rep for integrity, especially among other schools.
If that happens, an outreach to necessary parties can begin.
This is just the beginning of a long haul.
MaroonNGold {l Wrote}:Logitano {l Wrote}:MaroonNGold {l Wrote}:eagle9903 {l Wrote}:MaroonNGold {l Wrote}:twballgame9 {l Wrote}:If beeker sign Michael Jordan I will be pissed. Get. The fuck. Out.
Back, as always, to the question y'all can't realistically address:
And who will replace him?
If I'm following your ramblings correctly and I'm almost certainly not because they are internally inconsistent, the great crime was firing Al and the very bad Donahue hire didn't much matter. I don't understand the leap from Al's firing to irreversible program ruination. Specifically, On what planet is bc basketball in worse shape now than it was after your boy JOB lit a cigarette next to the gas pump on his way out the door?
Please realistically address this question.
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Well now, 9903, let's take a look at some FACTS, as opposed to vacant accusation.
1. You say JOB "lit a cigarette next to the gas pump on his way out the door."
A. Care to explain that?
B. Leahy dismissed HIM; Jim did not choose to leave BC, where he was a star player and which he loved. HE did nothing to harm the program. Instead, when he was let go, his class of 4 prized recruits all decided, on their own, that BC was no place for them. And Scoonie Penn held Jim in such high esteem that he elected to transfer to OSU and wait out a year. The loss of all those players is due to Leahy's rash, temper-tantrum action when his lower the admissions policy for athletes was revealed in the Globe.
C. Those, my boy, are the FACTS.
2. As to the Al firing:
A. Almost all the chirpers on this and similar boards were doing four years ago what y'all are doing now: savaging the head coach and demanding his ouster.
B. You got what you wanted, and now you're stuck with a program plummeting to the bottom of the basketball ocean. So, what do you do? Why, of course, you revert to the visceral, tired insults and coach bashing.
C. My point is that the axing of Al DID have long-term negative effects on the program. Want some? Here are just two:
(i) Look at our record since he left (even considering that AL'S players got Don into the NCAA in 2010-2011).
(ii) Check the BYU-like roster we now have: four blacks out of 17. Do you think that is a coincidence? How do you explain that? We are nowhere near getting the quality of player that Al, JOB and their predecessors brought here. Why is THAT?
D. Sure, had BC been able to hire a first-rate coach to succeed Al, the disintegration of this program might not have happened. But the harsh reality is that NO such coach wanted any part of this place. Why is that? Take a guess.
E. Donahue was hired because of what he did in his last 4 years at Cornell. Understandably, the press he got made him "hot" then. But did he beat out any front-line coach? Yes, he did, in Bill Coen and Ed Cooley, whom GDF interviewed but would not touch with a 1000 foot pole, because their "sin" was their connection to the coach whom GDF and Leahy stupidly fired.
In sum: The question I keep asking - and which y'all duck because you have NO answer is: who will come here if Don is let go?
Answers, please - if you have any.
Otherwise, save us the Pavlovian insults - you only demean yourselves with them.
Scoonie Penn had failed out of Boston College so there was no future for him at BC. Since you got a basic fact wrong hard to believe the rest of it.
MORE revisionist history, this time from Logi.
MaroonNGold {l Wrote}:HustlinOwl {l Wrote}:MaroonNgold, if you were the current AD at BC what would you do to save the program?
The most important thing he must do is rehab BC's rep for integrity, especially among other schools.
If that happens, an outreach to necessary parties can begin.
This is just the beginning of a long haul.
eagle9903 {l Wrote}:twballgame9 {l Wrote}:I can't believe I waited for that whole message to marquee across the screen.
Me neither.
DavidGordonsFoot {l Wrote}:eagle9903 {l Wrote}:twballgame9 {l Wrote}:I can't believe I waited for that whole message to marquee across the screen.
Me neither.
thirded
HustlinOwl {l Wrote}:MaroonNGold {l Wrote}:HustlinOwl {l Wrote}:MaroonNgold, if you were the current AD at BC what would you do to save the program?
The most important thing he must do is rehab BC's rep for integrity, especially among other schools.
If that happens, an outreach to necessary parties can begin.
This is just the beginning of a long haul.
Necessary parties? Please elaborate.
MaroonNGold {l Wrote}:HustlinOwl {l Wrote}:MaroonNGold {l Wrote}:HustlinOwl {l Wrote}:MaroonNgold, if you were the current AD at BC what would you do to save the program?
The most important thing he must do is rehab BC's rep for integrity, especially among other schools.
If that happens, an outreach to necessary parties can begin.
This is just the beginning of a long haul.
Necessary parties? Please elaborate.
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Hey, Owl, even you surely can identify the categories of people and organizations and groups on which successful college coaches rely to keep the recruiting pipeline productive.
Yours, I'm afraid, is a Who's buried in Grant's Tomb sort of question.
angrychicken {l Wrote}:MaroonNGold {l Wrote}:HustlinOwl {l Wrote}:MaroonNGold {l Wrote}:HustlinOwl {l Wrote}:MaroonNgold, if you were the current AD at BC what would you do to save the program?
The most important thing he must do is rehab BC's rep for integrity, especially among other schools.
If that happens, an outreach to necessary parties can begin.
This is just the beginning of a long haul.
Necessary parties? Please elaborate.
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Hey, Owl, even you surely can identify the categories of people and organizations and groups on which successful college coaches rely to keep the recruiting pipeline productive.
Yours, I'm afraid, is a Who's buried in Grant's Tomb sort of question.
I heard that Al and Ed Cooley had lunch today.
TobaccoRoadEagle {l Wrote}:angrychicken {l Wrote}:MaroonNGold {l Wrote}:HustlinOwl {l Wrote}:MaroonNGold {l Wrote}:HustlinOwl {l Wrote}:MaroonNgold, if you were the current AD at BC what would you do to save the program?
The most important thing he must do is rehab BC's rep for integrity, especially among other schools.
If that happens, an outreach to necessary parties can begin.
This is just the beginning of a long haul.
Necessary parties? Please elaborate.
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Hey, Owl, even you surely can identify the categories of people and organizations and groups on which successful college coaches rely to keep the recruiting pipeline productive.
Yours, I'm afraid, is a Who's buried in Grant's Tomb sort of question.
I heard that Al and Ed Cooley had lunch today.
did they talk about anything other than ed cooley's hair
StayBlessed {l Wrote}:Just noticed that Nat Dixon is playing both football (WR) and basketball (SG)...
DuchesneEast {l Wrote}:StayBlessed {l Wrote}:Just noticed that Nat Dixon is playing both football (WR) and basketball (SG)...
Does is doing a better job at recruiting than Donahue.
StayBlessed {l Wrote}:Just noticed that Nat Dixon is playing both football (WR) and basketball (SG)...
joesim {l Wrote}:StayBlessed {l Wrote}:Just noticed that Nat Dixon is playing both football (WR) and basketball (SG)...
Where'd you see this?
Hunta518 {l Wrote}:joesim {l Wrote}:StayBlessed {l Wrote}:Just noticed that Nat Dixon is playing both football (WR) and basketball (SG)...
Where'd you see this?
http://rivals.yahoo.com/bostoncollege/basketball/recruiting/commitments/2014
Onahue really puttin' in the hours on the recruiting trail
mjago410 {l Wrote}:Hunta518 {l Wrote}:joesim {l Wrote}:StayBlessed {l Wrote}:Just noticed that Nat Dixon is playing both football (WR) and basketball (SG)...
Where'd you see this?
http://rivals.yahoo.com/bostoncollege/basketball/recruiting/commitments/2014
Onahue really puttin' in the hours on the recruiting trail
Addazio under-recruited for this class, and that is not Nahue's fault.
Hunta518 {l Wrote}:mjago410 {l Wrote}:Hunta518 {l Wrote}:joesim {l Wrote}:StayBlessed {l Wrote}:Just noticed that Nat Dixon is playing both football (WR) and basketball (SG)...
Where'd you see this?
http://rivals.yahoo.com/bostoncollege/basketball/recruiting/commitments/2014
Onahue really puttin' in the hours on the recruiting trail
Addazio under-recruited for this class, and that is not Nahue's fault.
When did the weird0s drop the "O" too, I'm so out of the loop
Hunta518 {l Wrote}:mjago410 {l Wrote}:Hunta518 {l Wrote}:joesim {l Wrote}:StayBlessed {l Wrote}:Just noticed that Nat Dixon is playing both football (WR) and basketball (SG)...
Where'd you see this?
http://rivals.yahoo.com/bostoncollege/basketball/recruiting/commitments/2014
Onahue really puttin' in the hours on the recruiting trail
Addazio under-recruited for this class, and that is not Nahue's fault.
When did the weird0s drop the "O" too, I'm so out of the loop
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