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I think Donahue is a good coach. I think his assistants are pretty crappy recruiters. He still needs to land a guard and a big. Hicks/Severe would be a success.

This team as currently composed is not very good, not sure where the argument is on that point.

eepstein0 {l Wrote}:I think Donahue is a good coach. I think his assistants are pretty crappy recruiters. He still needs to land a guard and a big. Hicks/Severe would be a success.

This team as currently composed is not very good, not sure where the argument is on that point.

The argument is that you are conflating the concepts of "currently composed" and "in current state of development". There is no argument to be made that this is a good basketball team right now. No one can make that argument after their shit has been pushed in twice in a week and the team has 4 ACC wins. It is not hard to argue that a team that has 90% of all of its statistics coming from players not yet in their junior year can be good, even if we're not supposed to talk about that because its similar to Spaz's excuse that was completely different because it wasn't true among other reasons.

eagle9903 {l Wrote}:

eepstein0 {l Wrote}:I think Donahue is a good coach. I think his assistants are pretty crappy recruiters. He still needs to land a guard and a big. Hicks/Severe would be a success.

This team as currently composed is not very good, not sure where the argument is on that point.

The argument is that you are conflating the concepts of "currently composed" and "in current state of development". There is no argument to be made that this is a good basketball team right now. No one can make that argument after their shit has been pushed in twice in a week and the team has 4 ACC wins. It is not hard to argue that a team that has 90% of all of its statistics coming from players not yet in their junior year can be good, even if we're not supposed to talk about that because its similar to Spaz's excuse that was completely different because it wasn't true among other reasons.

These kids have played every freaking game these last 2 years. Im excluding the freshman guards from this. That sophomore class has like 50+ games under their belt. The youth and inexperience thing is somewhat valid is leaning how to win close games. Its total BS when trying to explain the total lack of showing up the last 2 games. Oh and Cuse and Pitt are in next year, which is 3 more guaranteed Ls.

eepstein0 {l Wrote}:

eagle9903 {l Wrote}:

eepstein0 {l Wrote}:I think Donahue is a good coach. I think his assistants are pretty crappy recruiters. He still needs to land a guard and a big. Hicks/Severe would be a success.

This team as currently composed is not very good, not sure where the argument is on that point.

The argument is that you are conflating the concepts of "currently composed" and "in current state of development". There is no argument to be made that this is a good basketball team right now. No one can make that argument after their shit has been pushed in twice in a week and the team has 4 ACC wins. It is not hard to argue that a team that has 90% of all of its statistics coming from players not yet in their junior year can be good, even if we're not supposed to talk about that because its similar to Spaz's excuse that was completely different because it wasn't true among other reasons.

These kids have played every freaking game these last 2 years. Im excluding the freshman guards from this. That sophomore class has like 50+ games under their belt. The youth and inexperience thing is somewhat valid is leaning how to win close games. Its total BS when trying to explain the total lack of showing up the last 2 games. Oh and Cuse and Pitt are in next year, which is 3 more guaranteed Ls.

First, I strongly encourage you to become a Kentucky fan. It is the only way you will ever be anything other than miserable. You hated Skinner. You hate Donahue. You would love being a Providence fan between seasons but not during seasons. This is in response to your PITT AND CUSE ERMAGURRRHD!!!1!

Next, why in the name of bates college graduates who hate to love BC would you remove the best and third best player from the roster in your response? Is it really total bullshit that two freshman who are the primary ball handlers have a hard time playing a late season game in tobacco road against teams with tournament implications after averaging 30+ minutes a night should be given some time to develop? No, you're right, they will always come out shitting themselves and exhausted in Cameron and PNC because they did it this time.

Bring on the team full of fucking Darius Miles clones that eepstein thinks is the only recruiting style that can result in winning basketball teams.

The post above is so absurd I dont even know how to respond. I never liked Skinner, I really like Donahue. I would just encourage him to recruit more players over 6'6.

The last two games had nothing to do with fatigue. We got blown out from the get-go.

Whats the goal in ACC wins next year? I'd say it should be 10. Unless the new freshman are incredible, thats a lofty goal

eepstein0 {l Wrote}:The post above is so absurd I dont even know how to respond. I never liked Skinner, I really like Donahue. I would just encourage him to recruit more players over 6'6.

The last two games had nothing to do with fatigue. We got blown out from the get-go.

Whats the goal in ACC wins next year? I'd say it should be 10. Unless the new freshman are incredible, thats a lofty goal

I don't think you understand how the freshman wall works.

eepstein0 {l Wrote}:The post above is so absurd I dont even know how to respond. I never liked Skinner, I really like Donahue. I would just encourage him to recruit more players over 6'6.

I'm sure that is what he wants. We can encourage Addazio to recruit more 4 and 5 star players. You think it will make any difference?

spaz got zero break for running off jags recruits and "leaving the cabinet bare"

how long does beaker get to use the same excuse?

eagle9903 {l Wrote}:

eepstein0 {l Wrote}:The post above is so absurd I dont even know how to respond. I never liked Skinner, I really like Donahue. I would just encourage him to recruit more players over 6'6.

The last two games had nothing to do with fatigue. We got blown out from the get-go.

Whats the goal in ACC wins next year? I'd say it should be 10. Unless the new freshman are incredible, thats a lofty goal

I don't think you understand how the freshman wall works.

Does it make 30 points of difference? Since thats what we're talking about here lately. Clearly have more scholarship bodies plus Dragevich will help, but the ACC is only getting better

TobaccoRoadEagle {l Wrote}:spaz got zero break for running off jags recruits and "leaving the cabinet bare"

how long does beaker get to use the same excuse?

No one had provided to me that he ran off anyone.

eepstein0 {l Wrote}:I never liked Skinner, I really like Donahue.

I never liked all that success either!

TobaccoRoadEagle {l Wrote}:spaz got zero break for running off jags recruits and "leaving the cabinet bare"

how long does beaker get to use the same excuse?

One difference being that Spaz actually did run off all the Jags recruits.

eagle9903 {l Wrote}:

TobaccoRoadEagle {l Wrote}:spaz got zero break for running off jags recruits and "leaving the cabinet bare"

how long does beaker get to use the same excuse?

One difference being that Spaz actually did run off all the Jags recruits.

Exactly!

eepstein0 {l Wrote}:

eagle9903 {l Wrote}:

eepstein0 {l Wrote}:The post above is so absurd I dont even know how to respond. I never liked Skinner, I really like Donahue. I would just encourage him to recruit more players over 6'6.

The last two games had nothing to do with fatigue. We got blown out from the get-go.

Whats the goal in ACC wins next year? I'd say it should be 10. Unless the new freshman are incredible, thats a lofty goal

I don't think you understand how the freshman wall works.

Does it make 30 points of difference? Since thats what we're talking about here lately. Clearly have more scholarship bodies plus Dragevich will help, but the ACC is only getting better

I don't know what kind of a point difference it might make. It's not a clear cut, Hanlan would have scored 30 more points argument if you are construing it that way. It's more of a removal of key components of our offense potentially being removed and among them the highest percentage manner in which to end a scoring drought then when the team is down double digits before ten minutes of the game have been plaid the complexion is changed for the full 40.

Clifford looked good last night on the plus side of things. Its a shame he can't play more minutes

This thread has become amusing. Like when the time Godofbeasts44 said he'd take 8 more years of losing because he likes the coach and said coach recruits good guys. That's good stuff.

The team has a couple of pretty good players. In a three on three league for guys under 6'8'' they'd be pretty good. The fact that the rest of the team hasn't been addressed over almost three seasons and 3 full recruiting cycles is really indefensible.

P & S: I liked Skinner. Didn't see this disaster coming, however, so I can't really say I told you so.

Cadillac90 {l Wrote}:This thread has become amusing. Like when the time Godofbeasts44 said he'd take 8 more years of losing because he likes the coach and said coach recruits good guys. That's good stuff.

I agree with you and just decided to let it go. Lets just go DIII and play in the NESCAC if thats the attitude

twballgame9 {l Wrote}:The team has a couple of pretty good players. In a three on three league for guys under 6'8'' they'd be pretty good. The fact that the rest of the team hasn't been addressed over almost three seasons and 3 full recruiting cycles is really indefensible.

P & S: I liked Skinner. Didn't see this disaster coming, however, so I can't really say I told you so.

Whats our 3 on 3 team look like? Hanlan, Rahon and Anderson? Who's coming off the bench.

eepstein0 {l Wrote}:

twballgame9 {l Wrote}:The team has a couple of pretty good players. In a three on three league for guys under 6'8'' they'd be pretty good. The fact that the rest of the team hasn't been addressed over almost three seasons and 3 full recruiting cycles is really indefensible.

P & S: I liked Skinner. Didn't see this disaster coming, however, so I can't really say I told you so.

Whats our 3 on 3 team look like? Hanlan, Rahon and Anderson? Who's coming off the bench.

I'd go with Hanlan, Rahon and Anderson, and bring Jackson and Odio off the bench. But there wouldn't be a lot of bench minutes, just saying.

twballgame9 {l Wrote}:

eepstein0 {l Wrote}:

twballgame9 {l Wrote}:The team has a couple of pretty good players. In a three on three league for guys under 6'8'' they'd be pretty good. The fact that the rest of the team hasn't been addressed over almost three seasons and 3 full recruiting cycles is really indefensible.

P & S: I liked Skinner. Didn't see this disaster coming, however, so I can't really say I told you so.

Whats our 3 on 3 team look like? Hanlan, Rahon and Anderson? Who's coming off the bench.

I'd go with Hanlan, Rahon and Anderson, and bring Jackson and Odio off the bench. But there wouldn't be a lot of bench minutes, just saying.

That bench is looking pretty awful. Your 3 on 3 team is also allergic to defense.

eepstein0 {l Wrote}:

twballgame9 {l Wrote}:

eepstein0 {l Wrote}:

twballgame9 {l Wrote}:The team has a couple of pretty good players. In a three on three league for guys under 6'8'' they'd be pretty good. The fact that the rest of the team hasn't been addressed over almost three seasons and 3 full recruiting cycles is really indefensible.

P & S: I liked Skinner. Didn't see this disaster coming, however, so I can't really say I told you so.

Whats our 3 on 3 team look like? Hanlan, Rahon and Anderson? Who's coming off the bench.

I'd go with Hanlan, Rahon and Anderson, and bring Jackson and Odio off the bench. But there wouldn't be a lot of bench minutes, just saying.

That bench is looking pretty awful. Your 3 on 3 team is also allergic to defense.

Well it almost by definition has to be a half court game, so it is easier to play D.