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Re: UNC at Boston College

PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 10:09 pm
by BCEagles25
This game isn't over. They don't have to give up.

Re: UNC at Boston College

PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 10:10 pm
by commavegarage
eepstein0 {l Wrote}:
commavegarage {l Wrote}:
eagle9903 {l Wrote}:Anyone who doesn't think Lonnie Jackson can be a decent piece on an ACC team is stupid and not worth conversing with.


the people who say this are the people who keep saying Clifford CAN be the top center in the acc. a lot of things CAN happen.


Clifford is injured. That criticism isn't fair at all.


thats the point. people say this shit while blatantly ignoring the fact that hes had a lingering injury for the ENTIRE year and put up 9-4 his first year. hes about to be halfway done with his career. Barring a MASSIVE leap next year AND an injury free season, that prediction just isnt going to happen.

Re: UNC at Boston College

PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 10:11 pm
by eagle9903
commavegarage {l Wrote}:
eagle9903 {l Wrote}:Anyone who doesn't think Lonnie Jackson can be a decent piece on an ACC team is stupid and not worth conversing with.


the people who say this are the people who keep saying Clifford CAN be the top center in the acc. a lot of things CAN happen. for example, when lonnie jackson doesnt play like absolute dogshit, he can be an acc role player.


10 pts a game, a couple assists and over .400 from 3 is not really dogshit. I know you mentioned that didn't watch games last year so you didn't see Clifford when healthy, so I guess it makes sense that you don't see that part of it.

Re: UNC at Boston College

PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 10:13 pm
by eagle9903
commavegarage {l Wrote}:
eepstein0 {l Wrote}:
commavegarage {l Wrote}:
eagle9903 {l Wrote}:Anyone who doesn't think Lonnie Jackson can be a decent piece on an ACC team is stupid and not worth conversing with.


the people who say this are the people who keep saying Clifford CAN be the top center in the acc. a lot of things CAN happen.


Clifford is injured. That criticism isn't fair at all.


thats the point. people say this shit while blatantly ignoring the fact that hes had a lingering injury for the ENTIRE year and put up 9-4 his first year. hes about to be halfway done with his career. Barring a MASSIVE leap next year AND an injury free season, that prediction just isnt going to happen.


I posted somewhere how 9 and 4 compares to any BC big from Skinner's tenure, you should find it before you point to those numbers as lacking and needing a MASSIVE leap.

Re: UNC at Boston College

PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 10:13 pm
by eagle9903
eepstein0 {l Wrote}:
eagle9903 {l Wrote}:
eepstein0 {l Wrote}:
eagle9903 {l Wrote}:Anyone who doesn't think Lonnie Jackson can be a decent piece on an ACC team is stupid and not worth conversing with.


He waivers between ACC role player and America East player. His problem, like the rest of this atrocity is consistency. Tonight he's the America East player


1) Jackson is not having a bad game, he missed one three. He's probably 4th or 5th in terms of problems on this team today, Hanlan has been decent and Heckman may be having the best game of anyone, but I don't understand why he is an America East player tonight.
2) He's not really inconsistent, he had a slump earlier this year. That's different.


You need to watch other ACC play and then watch ours.


Ok.

Re: UNC at Boston College

PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 10:14 pm
by BCEagles25
Hard to hate on Clifford when he's healthy. Guy is very mobile and pretty athletic for a seven footer.

Try thinking positively? Do half of you need an explanation of what that is?

Re: UNC at Boston College

PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 10:15 pm
by eepstein0
BCEagles25 {l Wrote}:This game isn't over. They don't have to give up.


They're going to mail this game in. That's the one thing that bugs me most about the last 2 years.

Re: UNC at Boston College

PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 10:15 pm
by Iggle
I wish I could find good NCAA +/- numbers because I'd be willing to bet any unit with Clifford out there is much better than the alternatives. Even in hobbled form, the team as a whole has looked much better with him out there.

Re: UNC at Boston College

PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 10:15 pm
by commavegarage
eagle9903 {l Wrote}:
commavegarage {l Wrote}:
eepstein0 {l Wrote}:
commavegarage {l Wrote}:
eagle9903 {l Wrote}:Anyone who doesn't think Lonnie Jackson can be a decent piece on an ACC team is stupid and not worth conversing with.


the people who say this are the people who keep saying Clifford CAN be the top center in the acc. a lot of things CAN happen.


Clifford is injured. That criticism isn't fair at all.


thats the point. people say this shit while blatantly ignoring the fact that hes had a lingering injury for the ENTIRE year and put up 9-4 his first year. hes about to be halfway done with his career. Barring a MASSIVE leap next year AND an injury free season, that prediction just isnt going to happen.


I posted somewhere how 9 and 4 compares to any BC big from Skinner's tenure, you should find it before you point to those numbers as lacking and needing a MASSIVE leap.


lets just blatantly ignore a lingering injury the entire year. because big men never have injury problems and that could never possibly affect his potential trajectory.

Re: UNC at Boston College

PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 10:15 pm
by claver2010
i said 6 because clifford, jackson, heckmann (a stretch) and rahon can have roles on good acc teams...just not 30+ mpg roles

Re: UNC at Boston College

PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 10:15 pm
by eagle9903
Iggle {l Wrote}:I wish I could find good NCAA +/- numbers because I'd be willing to bet any unit with Clifford out there is much better than the alternatives. Even in hobbled form, the team as a whole has looked much better with him out there.


but he's not an ACC player DERP!

Re: UNC at Boston College

PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 10:16 pm
by SJeagle09
BCEagles25 {l Wrote}:Hard to hate on Clifford when he's healthy. Guy is very mobile and pretty athletic for a seven footer.

Try thinking positively? Do half of you need an explanation of what that is?


He'll never be healthy unfortunately.

Re: UNC at Boston College

PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 10:17 pm
by eagle9903
commavegarage {l Wrote}:
eagle9903 {l Wrote}:
commavegarage {l Wrote}:
eepstein0 {l Wrote}:
commavegarage {l Wrote}:
eagle9903 {l Wrote}:Anyone who doesn't think Lonnie Jackson can be a decent piece on an ACC team is stupid and not worth conversing with.


the people who say this are the people who keep saying Clifford CAN be the top center in the acc. a lot of things CAN happen.


Clifford is injured. That criticism isn't fair at all.


thats the point. people say this shit while blatantly ignoring the fact that hes had a lingering injury for the ENTIRE year and put up 9-4 his first year. hes about to be halfway done with his career. Barring a MASSIVE leap next year AND an injury free season, that prediction just isnt going to happen.


I posted somewhere how 9 and 4 compares to any BC big from Skinner's tenure, you should find it before you point to those numbers as lacking and needing a MASSIVE leap.


lets just blatantly ignore a lingering injury the entire year. because big men never have injury problems and that could never possibly affect his potential trajectory.


You said Barring a MASSIVE leap next year AND an injury free season, you even made AND obnoxiously capitalized.

Re: UNC at Boston College

PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 10:17 pm
by eepstein0
claver2010 {l Wrote}:i said 6 because clifford, jackson, heckmann (a stretch) and rahon can have roles on good acc teams...just not 30+ mpg roles


Heckmann is horrible. I don't care if he made a couple jump shots tonight. He gave up a couple wide open 3s with his laughable rotation on D.

The others are fine in minor roles.

Re: UNC at Boston College

PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 10:18 pm
by eepstein0
eagle9903 {l Wrote}:
Iggle {l Wrote}:I wish I could find good NCAA +/- numbers because I'd be willing to bet any unit with Clifford out there is much better than the alternatives. Even in hobbled form, the team as a whole has looked much better with him out there.


but he's not an ACC player DERP!


You might as well come over to my side on this. This team stinks and will continue to stink. Feel free to ride that 1-17 train though if you'd like.

Re: UNC at Boston College

PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 10:19 pm
by BCEagles25
SJeagle09 {l Wrote}:
BCEagles25 {l Wrote}:Hard to hate on Clifford when he's healthy. Guy is very mobile and pretty athletic for a seven footer.

Try thinking positively? Do half of you need an explanation of what that is?


He'll never be healthy unfortunately.


This is what I'm talking about! Give the guy a month of no basketball, and give him a chance. How the hell do we fucking know his knees won't improve? Maybe he's already made the leap, but we haven't seen it because of the bad knee. Positivity, y'all. It's going to get better.

Re: UNC at Boston College

PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 10:20 pm
by eagle9903
SJeagle09 {l Wrote}:
BCEagles25 {l Wrote}:Hard to hate on Clifford when he's healthy. Guy is very mobile and pretty athletic for a seven footer.

Try thinking positively? Do half of you need an explanation of what that is?


He'll never be healthy unfortunately.


I believe Chrondomalacia can be cured or at least mitigated by arthroscopic surgery.

Re: UNC at Boston College

PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 10:20 pm
by eepstein0
How the hell is someone that wide open.

Re: UNC at Boston College

PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 10:21 pm
by commavegarage
eagle9903 {l Wrote}:
commavegarage {l Wrote}:
eagle9903 {l Wrote}:
commavegarage {l Wrote}:
eepstein0 {l Wrote}:
commavegarage {l Wrote}:
eagle9903 {l Wrote}:Anyone who doesn't think Lonnie Jackson can be a decent piece on an ACC team is stupid and not worth conversing with.


the people who say this are the people who keep saying Clifford CAN be the top center in the acc. a lot of things CAN happen.


Clifford is injured. That criticism isn't fair at all.


thats the point. people say this shit while blatantly ignoring the fact that hes had a lingering injury for the ENTIRE year and put up 9-4 his first year. hes about to be halfway done with his career. Barring a MASSIVE leap next year AND an injury free season, that prediction just isnt going to happen.


I posted somewhere how 9 and 4 compares to any BC big from Skinner's tenure, you should find it before you point to those numbers as lacking and needing a MASSIVE leap.


lets just blatantly ignore a lingering injury the entire year. because big men never have injury problems and that could never possibly affect his potential trajectory.


You said Barring a MASSIVE leap next year AND an injury free season, you even made AND obnoxiously capitalized.


if he increases his points and rebounds output from last year by 40 percent (which would be a pretty big jump) that'd put him at 12.5 & 6.5 roughly a game. Big time numbers! Let's call him the next Dwight Howard!

HE'S THE SAVIOR!!!!!!!

Re: UNC at Boston College

PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 10:23 pm
by commavegarage
eepstein0 {l Wrote}:
claver2010 {l Wrote}:i said 6 because clifford, jackson, heckmann (a stretch) and rahon can have roles on good acc teams...just not 30+ mpg roles


Heckmann is horrible. I don't care if he made a couple jump shots tonight. He gave up a couple wide open 3s with his laughable rotation on D.

The others are fine in minor roles.


i didnt really think it needed to be specified, but when i say we have 3 players, i mean there are 3 players on this team who i would be comfortable giving any serious minutes to on an acc team. i.e. north of 20 minutes. others can play a handful of minutes. but i dont consider fringe acc role players to be acc players.

Re: UNC at Boston College

PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 10:24 pm
by claver2010
odio stop shooting rom 3 and stay down low

frustration setting in for anderson, at least someone is showing it

Re: UNC at Boston College

PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 10:24 pm
by BCEagles25
commavegarage {l Wrote}:
if he increases his points and rebounds output from last year by 40 percent (which would be a pretty big jump) that'd put him at 12.5 & 6.5 roughly a game. Big time numbers! Let's call him the next Dwight Howard!

HE'S THE SAVIOR!!!!!!!


naming a random percentage doesn't help your shitty argument.

Re: UNC at Boston College

PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 10:24 pm
by eagle9903
commavegarage {l Wrote}:
eagle9903 {l Wrote}:
commavegarage {l Wrote}:
eagle9903 {l Wrote}:
commavegarage {l Wrote}:
eepstein0 {l Wrote}:
commavegarage {l Wrote}:
eagle9903 {l Wrote}:Anyone who doesn't think Lonnie Jackson can be a decent piece on an ACC team is stupid and not worth conversing with.


the people who say this are the people who keep saying Clifford CAN be the top center in the acc. a lot of things CAN happen.


Clifford is injured. That criticism isn't fair at all.


thats the point. people say this shit while blatantly ignoring the fact that hes had a lingering injury for the ENTIRE year and put up 9-4 his first year. hes about to be halfway done with his career. Barring a MASSIVE leap next year AND an injury free season, that prediction just isnt going to happen.


I posted somewhere how 9 and 4 compares to any BC big from Skinner's tenure, you should find it before you point to those numbers as lacking and needing a MASSIVE leap.


lets just blatantly ignore a lingering injury the entire year. because big men never have injury problems and that could never possibly affect his potential trajectory.


You said Barring a MASSIVE leap next year AND an injury free season, you even made AND obnoxiously capitalized.


if he increases his points and rebounds output from last year by 40 percent (which would be a pretty big jump) that'd put him at 12.5 & 6.5 roughly a game. Big time numbers! Let's call him the next Dwight Howard!

HE'S THE SAVIOR!!!!!!!


12.6 and 6.5 would make him second only to Craig Smith as far as BC bigs since maybe Curley.

Re: UNC at Boston College

PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 10:25 pm
by eepstein0
Odio is playing real well tonight minus the shot attempts from 3.

Good for him.

Re: UNC at Boston College

PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 10:25 pm
by commavegarage
BCEagles25 {l Wrote}:
commavegarage {l Wrote}:
if he increases his points and rebounds output from last year by 40 percent (which would be a pretty big jump) that'd put him at 12.5 & 6.5 roughly a game. Big time numbers! Let's call him the next Dwight Howard!

HE'S THE SAVIOR!!!!!!!


naming a random percentage doesn't help your shitty argument.


actually it absolutely does. especially seeing as most would argue anderson has made a big jump and his ppg is up by that amount and his rebounds are up by much less.

Re: UNC at Boston College

PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 10:26 pm
by commavegarage
eagle9903 {l Wrote}:
commavegarage {l Wrote}:
eagle9903 {l Wrote}:
commavegarage {l Wrote}:
eagle9903 {l Wrote}:
commavegarage {l Wrote}:
eepstein0 {l Wrote}:
commavegarage {l Wrote}:
eagle9903 {l Wrote}:Anyone who doesn't think Lonnie Jackson can be a decent piece on an ACC team is stupid and not worth conversing with.


the people who say this are the people who keep saying Clifford CAN be the top center in the acc. a lot of things CAN happen.


Clifford is injured. That criticism isn't fair at all.


thats the point. people say this shit while blatantly ignoring the fact that hes had a lingering injury for the ENTIRE year and put up 9-4 his first year. hes about to be halfway done with his career. Barring a MASSIVE leap next year AND an injury free season, that prediction just isnt going to happen.


I posted somewhere how 9 and 4 compares to any BC big from Skinner's tenure, you should find it before you point to those numbers as lacking and needing a MASSIVE leap.


lets just blatantly ignore a lingering injury the entire year. because big men never have injury problems and that could never possibly affect his potential trajectory.


You said Barring a MASSIVE leap next year AND an injury free season, you even made AND obnoxiously capitalized.


if he increases his points and rebounds output from last year by 40 percent (which would be a pretty big jump) that'd put him at 12.5 & 6.5 roughly a game. Big time numbers! Let's call him the next Dwight Howard!

HE'S THE SAVIOR!!!!!!!


12.6 and 6.5 would make him second only to Craig Smith as far as BC bigs since maybe Curley.


which would be relevant to this discussion if we were talking about the history of bc basketball.

Re: UNC at Boston College

PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 10:27 pm
by eagle9903
commavegarage {l Wrote}:
eagle9903 {l Wrote}:
commavegarage {l Wrote}:
eagle9903 {l Wrote}:
commavegarage {l Wrote}:
eagle9903 {l Wrote}:
commavegarage {l Wrote}:
eepstein0 {l Wrote}:
commavegarage {l Wrote}:
eagle9903 {l Wrote}:Anyone who doesn't think Lonnie Jackson can be a decent piece on an ACC team is stupid and not worth conversing with.


the people who say this are the people who keep saying Clifford CAN be the top center in the acc. a lot of things CAN happen.


Clifford is injured. That criticism isn't fair at all.


thats the point. people say this shit while blatantly ignoring the fact that hes had a lingering injury for the ENTIRE year and put up 9-4 his first year. hes about to be halfway done with his career. Barring a MASSIVE leap next year AND an injury free season, that prediction just isnt going to happen.


I posted somewhere how 9 and 4 compares to any BC big from Skinner's tenure, you should find it before you point to those numbers as lacking and needing a MASSIVE leap.


lets just blatantly ignore a lingering injury the entire year. because big men never have injury problems and that could never possibly affect his potential trajectory.


You said Barring a MASSIVE leap next year AND an injury free season, you even made AND obnoxiously capitalized.


if he increases his points and rebounds output from last year by 40 percent (which would be a pretty big jump) that'd put him at 12.5 & 6.5 roughly a game. Big time numbers! Let's call him the next Dwight Howard!

HE'S THE SAVIOR!!!!!!!


12.6 and 6.5 would make him second only to Craig Smith as far as BC bigs since maybe Curley.


which would be relevant to this discussion if we were talking about the history of bc basketball.


What program are we talking about? What board is this? You are a fucking clown.

Re: UNC at Boston College

PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 10:28 pm
by eagle9903
commavegarage {l Wrote}:
BCEagles25 {l Wrote}:
commavegarage {l Wrote}:
if he increases his points and rebounds output from last year by 40 percent (which would be a pretty big jump) that'd put him at 12.5 & 6.5 roughly a game. Big time numbers! Let's call him the next Dwight Howard!

HE'S THE SAVIOR!!!!!!!


naming a random percentage doesn't help your shitty argument.


actually it absolutely does. especially seeing as most would argue anderson has made a big jump and his ppg is up by that amount and his rebounds are up by much less.


No its absolutley fucking retarded, why would the improvement of one player mean that the improvement of another player would go up similarly? That's just stupid.

Re: UNC at Boston College

PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 10:28 pm
by commavegarage
eagle9903 {l Wrote}:
commavegarage {l Wrote}:
eagle9903 {l Wrote}:
commavegarage {l Wrote}:
eagle9903 {l Wrote}:
commavegarage {l Wrote}:
eagle9903 {l Wrote}:
commavegarage {l Wrote}:
eepstein0 {l Wrote}:
commavegarage {l Wrote}:
eagle9903 {l Wrote}:Anyone who doesn't think Lonnie Jackson can be a decent piece on an ACC team is stupid and not worth conversing with.


the people who say this are the people who keep saying Clifford CAN be the top center in the acc. a lot of things CAN happen.


Clifford is injured. That criticism isn't fair at all.


thats the point. people say this shit while blatantly ignoring the fact that hes had a lingering injury for the ENTIRE year and put up 9-4 his first year. hes about to be halfway done with his career. Barring a MASSIVE leap next year AND an injury free season, that prediction just isnt going to happen.


I posted somewhere how 9 and 4 compares to any BC big from Skinner's tenure, you should find it before you point to those numbers as lacking and needing a MASSIVE leap.


lets just blatantly ignore a lingering injury the entire year. because big men never have injury problems and that could never possibly affect his potential trajectory.


You said Barring a MASSIVE leap next year AND an injury free season, you even made AND obnoxiously capitalized.


if he increases his points and rebounds output from last year by 40 percent (which would be a pretty big jump) that'd put him at 12.5 & 6.5 roughly a game. Big time numbers! Let's call him the next Dwight Howard!

HE'S THE SAVIOR!!!!!!!


12.6 and 6.5 would make him second only to Craig Smith as far as BC bigs since maybe Curley.


which would be relevant to this discussion if we were talking about the history of bc basketball.


What program are we talking about? What board is this? You are a fucking clown.


were talking about the assertion by the weirdos that clifford if healthy will be the best center in the acc.

Re: UNC at Boston College

PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 10:29 pm
by SJeagle09
Christ didn't Van Nest look serviceable early in the year?