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Re: Is @UVA a winnable game

Postby eagle9903 on Thu Jan 26, 2012 10:47 pm

Jesus, I hope this slaughter at the end doesn't carry over.
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Re: Is @UVA a winnable game

Postby eagle9903 on Thu Jan 26, 2012 10:49 pm

I also hope these kids remember what UVA did to them in the last 2 minutes and I hope they get some payback later on.
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Re: Is @UVA a winnable game

Postby apbc12 on Thu Jan 26, 2012 10:49 pm

Not gonna win many games getting outscored 22-5 in the last 9 minutes.
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Re: Is @UVA a winnable game

Postby bchockey04 on Thu Jan 26, 2012 10:53 pm

Hey. We beat the spread....
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Re: Is @UVA a winnable game

Postby bcmurph on Thu Jan 26, 2012 10:56 pm

bchockey04 wrote:Hey. We beat the spread....


I was having flashbacks...If you had BC +18.5 you owe Ryan Anderson...
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Re: Is @UVA a winnable game

Postby BCEagles25 on Fri Jan 27, 2012 12:27 am

BCEagles25 wrote:
eagle9903 wrote:
eepstein0 wrote:UVA plays fantastic defense. I wouldn't be shocked if we were in the 30s


I would be.


No, he's right. I wouldn't be shocked... I'd pick a word higher on the surprise pyramid like "flabbergasted."

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Re: Is @UVA a winnable game

Postby MilitantEagle on Fri Jan 27, 2012 1:02 am

BCEagles25 wrote:
BCEagles25 wrote:
eagle9903 wrote:
eepstein0 wrote:UVA plays fantastic defense. I wouldn't be shocked if we were in the 30s


I would be.


No, he's right. I wouldn't be shocked... I'd pick a word higher on the surprise pyramid like "flabbergasted."

Boston College 49, Virginia 66


I'd like to just remind you all that this happened.


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Re: Is @UVA a winnable game

Postby BCEagles25 on Fri Jan 27, 2012 1:19 am

MilitantEagle wrote:
BCEagles25 wrote:
BCEagles25 wrote:
eagle9903 wrote:
eepstein0 wrote:UVA plays fantastic defense. I wouldn't be shocked if we were in the 30s


I would be.


No, he's right. I wouldn't be shocked... I'd pick a word higher on the surprise pyramid like "flabbergasted."

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I'd like to just remind you all that this happened.


Edit or no edit?


No edit, although I edited it thinking that I was quoting it. I was quoted by eepstein one page 1 as saying it.
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Re: Is @UVA a winnable game

Postby Ahzeem on Fri Jan 27, 2012 4:49 am

eagle9903 wrote:
joemack13 wrote:Offense sputtering now


Our one consistent option, Clifford down low, I think is exhausted and thus ineffective at this point.

that would have been a good time to get KC some minutes but I think the Don likes to run Anderson at the 5 and go faster at times; heck Anderson is who they should be looking for more in the paint.

lol I am not a gambling man but "BC and the points all year long." :bag
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Re: Is @UVA a winnable game

Postby claver2010 on Fri Jan 27, 2012 8:15 am

claver2010 wrote:BC & the points makes sense but the problem with this team is I can see them keeping it close for the first 30 minutes but they always have a stretch where they can't put the ball in the ocean from a boat.


As long as we are refiring our own posts.

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Re: Is @UVA a winnable game

Postby DavidGordonsFoot on Fri Jan 27, 2012 8:27 am

claver2010 wrote:
claver2010 wrote:BC & the points makes sense but the problem with this team is I can see them keeping it close for the first 30 minutes but they always have a stretch where they can't put the ball in the ocean from a boat.


As long as we are refiring our own posts.

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Re: Is @UVA a winnable game

Postby eepstein0 on Fri Jan 27, 2012 9:30 am

Sat courtside behind the announce table (nice that I found that scalper outside). Thought BC played pretty well. They had every opportunity to win the game.

Can someone explain why UVA decided to run up the score the last couple minutes? Seemed a little classless.
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Re: Is @UVA a winnable game

Postby claver2010 on Fri Jan 27, 2012 9:36 am

eepstein0 wrote:Sat courtside behind the announce table (nice that I found that scalper outside). Thought BC played pretty well. They had every opportunity to win the game.

Can someone explain why UVA decided to run up the score the last couple minutes? Seemed a little classless.


As someone said earlier on the thread, I hope the team remembers that.

Part of me wishes someone channeled their mid 90s Knicks and absolutely decked someone as they were going for dunks up 15 with a minute to go.
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Re: Is @UVA a winnable game

Postby pick6pedro on Fri Jan 27, 2012 9:43 am

Ahzeem wrote:
eagle9903 wrote:
joemack13 wrote:Offense sputtering now


Our one consistent option, Clifford down low, I think is exhausted and thus ineffective at this point.

that would have been a good time to get KC some minutes but I think the Don likes to run Anderson at the 5 and go faster at times; heck Anderson is who they should be looking for more in the paint.

lol I am not a gambling man but "BC and the points all year long." :bag


BC is what, like 8-6 ATS?
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Re: Is @UVA a winnable game

Postby joemack13 on Fri Jan 27, 2012 10:07 am

So based on the progression of this team, what are the real needs? The following I am comfortable having on the court at this point:

Clifford
Anderson
Daniels
Jackson
Rubin
Moton
Humphrey

I think a good guard will definitely help, but the major problem last night seemed to be that Anderson and Clifford were disappearing by the end of the night. Maybe this changes in the offseason with more conditioning, but they need someone else who can give some minutes at PF/C. Is there a reason Caudill didn't play?

Also does Anderson in particular need some conditioning? After his big offense in the first few minutes there wasn't a whole lot from him, while clifford looked to be pushing it for about 30 minutes.
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Re: Is @UVA a winnable game

Postby eagle9903 on Fri Jan 27, 2012 10:26 am

claver2010 wrote:
eepstein0 wrote:Sat courtside behind the announce table (nice that I found that scalper outside). Thought BC played pretty well. They had every opportunity to win the game.

Can someone explain why UVA decided to run up the score the last couple minutes? Seemed a little classless.


As someone said earlier on the thread, I hope the team remembers that.

Part of me wishes someone channeled their mid 90s Knicks and absolutely decked someone as they were going for dunks up 15 with a minute to go.


I'd love to see Clifford try to deck Smith (until Smith broke all of Clifford's limbs).
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Re: Is @UVA a winnable game

Postby eagle9903 on Fri Jan 27, 2012 10:29 am

joemack13 wrote:So based on the progression of this team, what are the real needs? The following I am comfortable having on the court at this point:

Clifford
Anderson
Daniels
Jackson
Rubin
Moton
Humphrey

I think a good guard will definitely help, but the major problem last night seemed to be that Anderson and Clifford were disappearing by the end of the night. Maybe this changes in the offseason with more conditioning, but they need someone else who can give some minutes at PF/C. Is there a reason Caudill didn't play?

Also does Anderson in particular need some conditioning? After his big offense in the first few minutes there wasn't a whole lot from him, while clifford looked to be pushing it for about 30 minutes.


Anderson needs to hit the weights big time to get stronger and bigger, but I think his conditioning is OK, he just tweaked his ankle and sat for a long time after his initial offensive spark. It was shitty timing.

I have no idea what the deal with Caudill was? It could have just been concern the Smith would abuse him? But an exhausted Clifford isn't necessarily a better option and I credit such exhaustion for our inability to score in the last 5.
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Re: Is @UVA a winnable game

Postby claver2010 on Fri Jan 27, 2012 10:37 am

joemack13 wrote:So based on the progression of this team, what are the real needs? The following I am comfortable having on the court at this point:

Clifford
Anderson
Daniels
Jackson
Rubin
Moton
Humphrey

I think a good guard will definitely help, but the major problem last night seemed to be that Anderson and Clifford were disappearing by the end of the night. Maybe this changes in the offseason with more conditioning, but they need someone else who can give some minutes at PF/C. Is there a reason Caudill didn't play?

Also does Anderson in particular need some conditioning? After his big offense in the first few minutes there wasn't a whole lot from him, while clifford looked to be pushing it for about 30 minutes.


I still think this team needs a true 4, a 6'9" 250 banger. Maybe this doesn't fit Donahue's system but right now of the people you listed that you are comfortable seeing on the floor (I agree with you) 2 of them are over 6'5" and 1 of which (Anderson) is more of a 3
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Re: Is @UVA a winnable game

Postby eepstein0 on Fri Jan 27, 2012 10:40 am

joemack13 wrote:So based on the progression of this team, what are the real needs? The following I am comfortable having on the court at this point:

Clifford
Anderson
Daniels
Jackson
Rubin
Moton
Humphrey

I think a good guard will definitely help, but the major problem last night seemed to be that Anderson and Clifford were disappearing by the end of the night. Maybe this changes in the offseason with more conditioning, but they need someone else who can give some minutes at PF/C. Is there a reason Caudill didn't play?

Also does Anderson in particular need some conditioning? After his big offense in the first few minutes there wasn't a whole lot from him, while clifford looked to be pushing it for about 30 minutes.


Hanlan/Daniels
Jackson/Humphrey
Heckmann/?
Anderson/?
Clifford/Caudill

Caudill is fine as a back-up center and will only get better. Unsure why he didn't play last night. Caudill actually has very good post-moves, he just needs to get in ACC shape.

We need a SF and we need a PF. Ryan Taylor would be huge for that.

Moton/Rubin have improved dramatically, but I think you're in serious trouble if you're counting on them every night.

I have no idea on Joe Rahon. If Rahon is the shooter he's billed as, he can play the 2 and move Humphrey down to the 3.
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Re: Is @UVA a winnable game

Postby joemack13 on Fri Jan 27, 2012 10:54 am

eepstein0 wrote:
joemack13 wrote:So based on the progression of this team, what are the real needs? The following I am comfortable having on the court at this point:

Clifford
Anderson
Daniels
Jackson
Rubin
Moton
Humphrey

I think a good guard will definitely help, but the major problem last night seemed to be that Anderson and Clifford were disappearing by the end of the night. Maybe this changes in the offseason with more conditioning, but they need someone else who can give some minutes at PF/C. Is there a reason Caudill didn't play?

Also does Anderson in particular need some conditioning? After his big offense in the first few minutes there wasn't a whole lot from him, while clifford looked to be pushing it for about 30 minutes.


Hanlan/Daniels
Jackson/Humphrey
Heckmann/?
Anderson/?
Clifford/Caudill

Caudill is fine as a back-up center and will only get better. Unsure why he didn't play last night. Caudill actually has very good post-moves, he just needs to get in ACC shape.

We need a SF and we need a PF. Ryan Taylor would be huge for that.

Moton/Rubin have improved dramatically, but I think you're in serious trouble if you're counting on them every night.

I have no idea on Joe Rahon. If Rahon is the shooter he's billed as, he can play the 2 and move Humphrey down to the 3.


I don't see Rubin ever starting but I expect next year we will continue to give him minutes every single game, and I'm comfortable with that. Moton I think has progressed to where he's at least comparable to the other guards he's competing with for starting time. Granted they're freshman, at this point I wouldn't be shocked if I saw him start a game. I understand your optimism with Heckmann as our starting 3, but he really hasn't shown any progression to warrant it. I thought in the beginning of the year that Heckmann would be very good, and i'm still hopeful that he will be, but just look at last night and he was the biggest liability on the court.
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Re: Is @UVA a winnable game

Postby eagle9903 on Fri Jan 27, 2012 10:54 am

claver2010 wrote:
joemack13 wrote:So based on the progression of this team, what are the real needs? The following I am comfortable having on the court at this point:

Clifford
Anderson
Daniels
Jackson
Rubin
Moton
Humphrey

I think a good guard will definitely help, but the major problem last night seemed to be that Anderson and Clifford were disappearing by the end of the night. Maybe this changes in the offseason with more conditioning, but they need someone else who can give some minutes at PF/C. Is there a reason Caudill didn't play?

Also does Anderson in particular need some conditioning? After his big offense in the first few minutes there wasn't a whole lot from him, while clifford looked to be pushing it for about 30 minutes.


I still think this team needs a true 4, a 6'9" 250 banger. Maybe this doesn't fit Donahue's system but right now of the people you listed that you are comfortable seeing on the floor (I agree with you) 2 of them are over 6'5" and 1 of which (Anderson) is more of a 3


Has BC ever had a PF like that?
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Re: Is @UVA a winnable game

Postby claver2010 on Fri Jan 27, 2012 11:02 am

eagle9903 wrote:
claver2010 wrote:
joemack13 wrote:So based on the progression of this team, what are the real needs? The following I am comfortable having on the court at this point:

Clifford
Anderson
Daniels
Jackson
Rubin
Moton
Humphrey

I think a good guard will definitely help, but the major problem last night seemed to be that Anderson and Clifford were disappearing by the end of the night. Maybe this changes in the offseason with more conditioning, but they need someone else who can give some minutes at PF/C. Is there a reason Caudill didn't play?

Also does Anderson in particular need some conditioning? After his big offense in the first few minutes there wasn't a whole lot from him, while clifford looked to be pushing it for about 30 minutes.


I still think this team needs a true 4, a 6'9" 250 banger. Maybe this doesn't fit Donahue's system but right now of the people you listed that you are comfortable seeing on the floor (I agree with you) 2 of them are over 6'5" and 1 of which (Anderson) is more of a 3


Has BC ever had a PF like that?


I can't recall one.

I wonder how much the injuries are effecting Heckman. He isn't even close to the type of player we saw to start the year.
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Re: Is @UVA a winnable game

Postby eepstein0 on Fri Jan 27, 2012 11:06 am

eagle9903 wrote:
claver2010 wrote:
joemack13 wrote:So based on the progression of this team, what are the real needs? The following I am comfortable having on the court at this point:

Clifford
Anderson
Daniels
Jackson
Rubin
Moton
Humphrey

I think a good guard will definitely help, but the major problem last night seemed to be that Anderson and Clifford were disappearing by the end of the night. Maybe this changes in the offseason with more conditioning, but they need someone else who can give some minutes at PF/C. Is there a reason Caudill didn't play?

Also does Anderson in particular need some conditioning? After his big offense in the first few minutes there wasn't a whole lot from him, while clifford looked to be pushing it for about 30 minutes.


I still think this team needs a true 4, a 6'9" 250 banger. Maybe this doesn't fit Donahue's system but right now of the people you listed that you are comfortable seeing on the floor (I agree with you) 2 of them are over 6'5" and 1 of which (Anderson) is more of a 3


Has BC ever had a PF like that?


His name is KC Caudill. The only difference is he's 6'11
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Re: Is @UVA a winnable game

Postby bignick33 on Fri Jan 27, 2012 12:22 pm

eagle9903 wrote:
claver2010 wrote:
joemack13 wrote:So based on the progression of this team, what are the real needs? The following I am comfortable having on the court at this point:

Clifford
Anderson
Daniels
Jackson
Rubin
Moton
Humphrey

I think a good guard will definitely help, but the major problem last night seemed to be that Anderson and Clifford were disappearing by the end of the night. Maybe this changes in the offseason with more conditioning, but they need someone else who can give some minutes at PF/C. Is there a reason Caudill didn't play?

Also does Anderson in particular need some conditioning? After his big offense in the first few minutes there wasn't a whole lot from him, while clifford looked to be pushing it for about 30 minutes.


I still think this team needs a true 4, a 6'9" 250 banger. Maybe this doesn't fit Donahue's system but right now of the people you listed that you are comfortable seeing on the floor (I agree with you) 2 of them are over 6'5" and 1 of which (Anderson) is more of a 3


Has BC ever had a PF like that?


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Re: Is @UVA a winnable game

Postby eagle9903 on Fri Jan 27, 2012 12:23 pm

bignick33 wrote:
eagle9903 wrote:
claver2010 wrote:
joemack13 wrote:So based on the progression of this team, what are the real needs? The following I am comfortable having on the court at this point:

Clifford
Anderson
Daniels
Jackson
Rubin
Moton
Humphrey

I think a good guard will definitely help, but the major problem last night seemed to be that Anderson and Clifford were disappearing by the end of the night. Maybe this changes in the offseason with more conditioning, but they need someone else who can give some minutes at PF/C. Is there a reason Caudill didn't play?

Also does Anderson in particular need some conditioning? After his big offense in the first few minutes there wasn't a whole lot from him, while clifford looked to be pushing it for about 30 minutes.


I still think this team needs a true 4, a 6'9" 250 banger. Maybe this doesn't fit Donahue's system but right now of the people you listed that you are comfortable seeing on the floor (I agree with you) 2 of them are over 6'5" and 1 of which (Anderson) is more of a 3


Has BC ever had a PF like that?


Uka, sort of


could have been except he had to play so much C.
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Re: Is @UVA a winnable game

Postby bignick33 on Fri Jan 27, 2012 12:27 pm

eagle9903 wrote:
bignick33 wrote:
eagle9903 wrote:
claver2010 wrote:
joemack13 wrote:So based on the progression of this team, what are the real needs? The following I am comfortable having on the court at this point:

Clifford
Anderson
Daniels
Jackson
Rubin
Moton
Humphrey

I think a good guard will definitely help, but the major problem last night seemed to be that Anderson and Clifford were disappearing by the end of the night. Maybe this changes in the offseason with more conditioning, but they need someone else who can give some minutes at PF/C. Is there a reason Caudill didn't play?

Also does Anderson in particular need some conditioning? After his big offense in the first few minutes there wasn't a whole lot from him, while clifford looked to be pushing it for about 30 minutes.


I still think this team needs a true 4, a 6'9" 250 banger. Maybe this doesn't fit Donahue's system but right now of the people you listed that you are comfortable seeing on the floor (I agree with you) 2 of them are over 6'5" and 1 of which (Anderson) is more of a 3


Has BC ever had a PF like that?


Uka, sort of


could have been except he had to play so much C.


Also, Skinner played that role that you mention really well in his games at the Plex.
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Re: Is @UVA a winnable game

Postby eepstein0 on Fri Jan 27, 2012 12:56 pm

bignick33 wrote:
eagle9903 wrote:
bignick33 wrote:
eagle9903 wrote:
claver2010 wrote:
joemack13 wrote:So based on the progression of this team, what are the real needs? The following I am comfortable having on the court at this point:

Clifford
Anderson
Daniels
Jackson
Rubin
Moton
Humphrey

I think a good guard will definitely help, but the major problem last night seemed to be that Anderson and Clifford were disappearing by the end of the night. Maybe this changes in the offseason with more conditioning, but they need someone else who can give some minutes at PF/C. Is there a reason Caudill didn't play?

Also does Anderson in particular need some conditioning? After his big offense in the first few minutes there wasn't a whole lot from him, while clifford looked to be pushing it for about 30 minutes.


I still think this team needs a true 4, a 6'9" 250 banger. Maybe this doesn't fit Donahue's system but right now of the people you listed that you are comfortable seeing on the floor (I agree with you) 2 of them are over 6'5" and 1 of which (Anderson) is more of a 3


Has BC ever had a PF like that?


Uka, sort of


could have been except he had to play so much C.


Also, Skinner played that role that you mention really well in his games at the Plex.


I think Al played more of a 3. Correct me if I'm wrong
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Re: Is @UVA a winnable game

Postby GlorytoBC on Fri Jan 27, 2012 12:58 pm

eagle9903 wrote:I also hope these kids remember what UVA did to them in the last 2 minutes and I hope they get some payback later on.


I doubt that it will even matter. Bennett is building a good program at Virginia, I can't say the same about Donahue.
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Re: Is @UVA a winnable game

Postby bignick33 on Fri Jan 27, 2012 1:26 pm

eepstein0 wrote:
bignick33 wrote:
eagle9903 wrote:
bignick33 wrote:
eagle9903 wrote:
claver2010 wrote:
joemack13 wrote:So based on the progression of this team, what are the real needs? The following I am comfortable having on the court at this point:

Clifford
Anderson
Daniels
Jackson
Rubin
Moton
Humphrey

I think a good guard will definitely help, but the major problem last night seemed to be that Anderson and Clifford were disappearing by the end of the night. Maybe this changes in the offseason with more conditioning, but they need someone else who can give some minutes at PF/C. Is there a reason Caudill didn't play?

Also does Anderson in particular need some conditioning? After his big offense in the first few minutes there wasn't a whole lot from him, while clifford looked to be pushing it for about 30 minutes.


I still think this team needs a true 4, a 6'9" 250 banger. Maybe this doesn't fit Donahue's system but right now of the people you listed that you are comfortable seeing on the floor (I agree with you) 2 of them are over 6'5" and 1 of which (Anderson) is more of a 3


Has BC ever had a PF like that?


Uka, sort of


could have been except he had to play so much C.


Also, Skinner played that role that you mention really well in his games at the Plex.


I think Al played more of a 3. Correct me if I'm wrong


But he had the elbows of a 4.
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Re: Is @UVA a winnable game

Postby eepstein0 on Fri Jan 27, 2012 1:47 pm

GlorytoBC wrote:
eagle9903 wrote:I also hope these kids remember what UVA did to them in the last 2 minutes and I hope they get some payback later on.


I doubt that it will even matter. Bennett is building a good program at Virginia, I can't say the same about Donahue.


Every single person at UVA disagrees with you on Donahue. The general response was, "You will be very good next year and the year after"
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