Deacs @ Eagles at noon on ACC Network (My TV38)

[pick6pedro]

The point TWB and I are making is that Donahue is sacrificing wins for development.

And whoever was saying most these kids should be playing in the CAA right now, you're right. They can clearly develop, but right now, it's an adventure out there for everyone not named Anderson and Clifford 50% of the time.

And...?

[Cadillac90]

Pretty tired of subbing people for the hell of it, or worse, to make sure they stay cold. He subs like a CYO coach.

They just got blown out by a shitty basketball team.

Coach D has said 230853085 times that he's not going to look at the score at times, it's about developing the guys. I wouldn't expect anything less as Donahue has been solid on his word so far.

Losing games because of development is stupid. It's been stupid all year.

Sure, criticize a man who took a Cornell squad to the sweet 16 and won the coach of the year award of all NCAA coaches. A man who won 2 of the first 3 ACC games this year with 9 freshman (starting 4). Not to mention that tons of people have criticized his 2011 recruiting class.

But hey, I'm sure that you and twinbballgame know more than he does....

Just so you know, it took this "man" 7 years to get a winning team at Cornell. That's almost two full recruiting classes. Don't get me wrong, he's a good coach but let's not make him a saint just yet.

Now ms. Skinner is correct, however, cornell's history needs to be accounted for. Cornell had two two winning seasons in the ten years pre-donahue, and until he won the ivy league in 2008 cornell had not done so since 1954.

Cornell can't even offer a scholarship......and they went to the sweet sixteen.....how can anyone even start to say Donahue isn't an amazing coach?

Who said anything that he was a bad coach???? Can't someone comment that he doesn't like the way Donahue substitutes? Why is that so offensive to you? Let's be honest with ourselves, no one really knows what is in store for this team in the next couple years. Hopefully they'll develop further and become a pretty good team but until then it is okay to make some comments positive and negative. BTW, "amazing coach" is a bit much. Let's see what he can do here before you crown him the next John Wooden, broseph.

[MilitantEagle]

Some of you guys need to chill out. I know twballgame, who every year is captain of the 10-2 football prediction season, expected 15 wins, but those who are realistic knew getting just one ACC victory with this team would not be easy. We've already won 2, so we are playing with house money in my opinion. I think getting Hanlan and Rahon next year will help big time. Legit guards. Not this Humphrey/Moton/Daniels adventure.

[BCEagles25]

1. Daniels and Moton aren't bad point guards.
2. Steve Donahue having Eddie Odio in with less than 4 minutes to go is beyond me, although BC had already lost at that point.
3. We can sacrifice wins for development this year perhaps... Next year, this silly subbing shit had better be history.

[MilitantEagle]

1. Daniels and Moton aren't bad point guards.
2. Steve Donahue having Eddie Odio in with less than 4 minutes to go is beyond me, although BC had already lost at that point.
3. We can sacrifice wins for development this year perhaps... Next year, this silly subbing shit had better be history.

1. They're not bad, but they're not great either
2. Does it really matter? Clifford and Anderson are the only ACC-ready players at this point. Jackson has potential. Daniels is serviceable.
3. I'll defer to Donahue, who I think is a much better coach than you.

[eepstein0]

1. Daniels and Moton aren't bad point guards.
2. Steve Donahue having Eddie Odio in with less than 4 minutes to go is beyond me, although BC had already lost at that point.
3. We can sacrifice wins for development this year perhaps... Next year, this silly subbing shit had better be history.

1. They're not bad, but they're not great either
2. Does it really matter? Clifford and Anderson are the only ACC-ready players at this point. Jackson has potential. Daniels is serviceable.
3. I'll defer to Donahue, who I think is a much better coach than you.

Our PG play is below average in this league. Hanlan will help I hope.

[Ahzeem]

I remarked elsewhere that the scheduling was very unfavorable to BC, and this apparently had an effect. That said, the jury is still out on whether any of BC's players can be consistently effective against ACC competition. If they mature into ACC players, fine; if not, then we need a new coaching staff, because recruiting is 90% of winning in college basketball, and if they can't recruit ACC-caliber players, then whatever else they do well is irrelevant. I've said before that the move to the ACC put BC into an unnatural recruiting situation; solving this problem might require the addition of a few more Big East teams besides Syracuse and Pitt.

I guess this isn't too over the top as you at least admit the possibility of maturity into acc players, but I think this notion that anyone can dismiss anderson, jackson, daniels, caudill or even odio as acc talents at this point is silly. I look at someone like howell from nc state who is probably 21 and is probably as big as he will get, then I looke at ryan anderson who is obviously no playing at his full weight which he can carry without hinderance. Until he gets there, really who knows what the potential is. But if they all fail to improve over the summer the staff is in trouble. Your acc move recruiting thing doesn't make sense to me. In recent bc bigeast years our stars were from minny(bell), cali(smith duds), colorado(jackson) and texas (rice), I doubt any of them had msg in the tournament dreams.

Clifford would start for several other acc teams right now.

I really like the comment that “BC is playing on house money right now” they have two more wins than anyone (except me) expected in the ACC. As far as the rest of the season goes the (ACC )is a toss up no one will go undefeated… every game is up for grabs. BC still has a couple more wins coming this season hopefully they will all come in the ACC tourney.

As far as the “none of these guys are ACC caliber players” comments… uh last I checked they are in the ACC and they are playing. Not very well at times but what freshman does at this level. Problem is they don’t have that upper classman leadership that most freshmen like Austin Rivers have to cover up their mistakes. These guys will be great mentors to any recruits coming in and hopefully BC won’t have to suffer through an all freshman class again. The next 3 years of recruiting will be critical. These guys will all graduate together in 4 years two or three solid recruits each year are important for the future of BC basketball. Playing with these guys and the available minutes will be a draw card for some top 100 recruits like Anderson and Clifford. Coaching will have to work hard to find the right additions to this roster.

On the substitutions The Don has got his hands full keeping these guys in games and getting his bench some much need time on the floor in game conditions. There is no substitute for game minutes these guys can all play the game and I am sure these guys are making shots in practice… they wouldn’t get out of the gym. You have to try the shot in a game to see what works and earn some stripes. I think the substitution patterns have a lot to do with endurance. One of the things that an upper classmen brings to the floor is endurance. As freshman these guys just can’t go 40 minutes per game battling guys bigger and more athletic than they are. Even our top players become less effective when they are out there tired… rotating them frequently has helped players like Humphrey and Anderson they can be more focused while they are on the court. They need to be more intense, sitting on that bench will do that to you. Anderson didn’t start a couple games early on after cruising in a game for 19 minutes without posting numbers and Humphrey has reigned in some of those ill advised shots due to limiting some of his minutes.

I think players like Odio and Caudill are getting real freshman minutes ; both are good players that need more development than the guys that are getting the majority of the minutes… that development only occurs on the court. Being a good practice player has got to be tested under game conditions where you have to think and perform on the fly.

When this game got close and then sprung back in Wake’s favor the Don went right back into development mode. Might as well get your bench guys some minutes right. I don’t think any of these guys has ever given up and they all have bought into the Don’s system. I think with the substitution patterns none of them will get discouraged when they lose and think it is all their fault.

Did you notice how the Don had these guys matched up most of the time in one on one situations against bigger guys... C'mon that is genius these guys need to ready to win in March... Beat Wake then this loss goes bye-bye!

[BCEagles25]

In other news, Notre Dame did that thing again where they beat a 20-0 team in South Bend.

[BC923]

I'm fine with sacrificing wins for development this year because I don't really care about 3 or 4 games when they aren't going to challenge for a winning record anyway. Next year though, go out and try to win every game.