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Re: Clemson @ Eagles 7:00 PM on the Deuce

Postby Hunta518 on Thu Jan 12, 2012 8:59 pm

44% from the line for Jackson?
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Re: Clemson @ Eagles 7:00 PM on the Deuce

Postby Hunta518 on Thu Jan 12, 2012 9:01 pm

Realllllllllllllllllyyyyyyy
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Re: Clemson @ Eagles 7:00 PM on the Deuce

Postby Hunta518 on Thu Jan 12, 2012 9:02 pm

Fugly win. I'll take anything I can get with this team though. :banana
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Re: Clemson @ Eagles 7:00 PM on the Deuce

Postby EagleNYC on Thu Jan 12, 2012 9:04 pm

Just win baby!!!!!

What a terrible game down the stretch by both teams. But who cares? Take the win. :cheer :cheer
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Re: Clemson @ Eagles 7:00 PM on the Deuce

Postby eepstein0 on Thu Jan 12, 2012 9:05 pm

That was hideous but I'll take it every time. Good learning experience for BC
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Re: Clemson @ Eagles 7:00 PM on the Deuce

Postby bcmurph on Thu Jan 12, 2012 9:06 pm

:elephant :pepper2 :pickle :banana :cheer :cheer :banana :banana :banana :banana
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Re: Clemson @ Eagles 7:00 PM on the Deuce

Postby Logitano on Thu Jan 12, 2012 9:06 pm

The Don has turned it around! :ace
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Re: Clemson @ Eagles 7:00 PM on the Deuce

Postby Shaddix on Thu Jan 12, 2012 9:07 pm

It was bad closing, but how about the shooting of Lonnie, Daniels, Humphrey, and Clifford. If they perform like that now, I'd love to see what they can do once they get more confidence.
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Re: Clemson @ Eagles 7:00 PM on the Deuce

Postby eepstein0 on Thu Jan 12, 2012 9:11 pm

VT isn't particularly good or well coached. I could even see winning Saturday.
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Re: Clemson @ Eagles 7:00 PM on the Deuce

Postby MattTheEagle on Thu Jan 12, 2012 9:15 pm

I have been really impressed with Clifford's play the last few games. He is really using his height nicely. He needs to gain some strength and be better at getting the boards.

There were definitely way too many turnovers, but overall I thought we played pretty well. The toughest thing is that we nearly lost it in the last minute as our freshman seemed to let the nerves get the better of them and collapsed under pressure. That being said, the more experience Clemson team also collapsed.

Most importantly, AWESOME TO WIN and an ACC game! :screamyeagle
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Re: Clemson @ Eagles 7:00 PM on the Deuce

Postby bcmurph on Thu Jan 12, 2012 9:30 pm

Not to take away from the game...but before I forget, Len Elmore sucks at his job.
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Re: Clemson @ Eagles 7:00 PM on the Deuce

Postby Saveagle on Thu Jan 12, 2012 9:36 pm

I got the impression that Elmore and Bob Wischusen don't really like each other. There were some awkward exchanges during the telecast.
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Re: Clemson @ Eagles 7:00 PM on the Deuce

Postby BC923 on Thu Jan 12, 2012 9:36 pm

eepstein0 wrote:If we're going to get on the board we'd better do it tonight.

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well done sir
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Re: Clemson @ Eagles 7:00 PM on the Deuce

Postby Shaddix on Thu Jan 12, 2012 9:40 pm

Did anyone see Donahue and Booker att he end of the game? It looked like Donahue was pissed and yelling at him
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Re: Clemson @ Eagles 7:00 PM on the Deuce

Postby joeyfenn on Thu Jan 12, 2012 9:49 pm

WE WON AN ACC GAME

ACC CHAMPIONS?
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Re: Clemson @ Eagles 7:00 PM on the Deuce

Postby eepstein0 on Thu Jan 12, 2012 9:52 pm

BC923 wrote:
eepstein0 wrote:If we're going to get on the board we'd better do it tonight.

BC 59
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well done sir


Close at least.
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Re: Clemson @ Eagles 7:00 PM on the Deuce

Postby EagleDave on Thu Jan 12, 2012 10:33 pm

Ceeeelebrate good times C'MON!

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Let's celebrate now...
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Re: Clemson @ Eagles 7:00 PM on the Deuce

Postby MilitantEagle on Thu Jan 12, 2012 10:40 pm

Prediction (not sure if it's considered a bold one or not): Dennis Clifford will earn an NBA roster spot after a solid four years at BC. He's the man.

Fun game tonight. Great to get the monkey off our back this early and not have to worry about 0-16.
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Re: Clemson @ Eagles 7:00 PM on the Deuce

Postby Ahzeem on Fri Jan 13, 2012 12:25 am

MilitantEagle wrote:Prediction (not sure if it's considered a bold one or not): Dennis Clifford will earn an NBA roster spot after a solid four years at BC. He's the man.

Fun game tonight. Great to get the monkey off our back this early and not have to worry about 0-16.

speaking of predictions... eh eh hmmm let's go doubters (line em up :bowdown ) who's the man?

We are going to see some really good basketball with this group... :popcorn and our freshman are getting so much more valuable experience with all the minutes they are logging. I am telling you they can win in the ACC most teams have 2/3 maybe a 4th go to scorers BC can go 6/7 maybe 8 guys that can score and play defense. Most teams are relying on athletic freshman to contribute, BC has talented/smart freshman that are contributing. You won't see anymore -30pt spreads that's for sure You may see BC favored over Wake on the 21st.
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Re: Clemson @ Eagles 7:00 PM on the Deuce

Postby missoulaEagle on Fri Jan 13, 2012 1:36 am

Exciting game tonight. Generally good ball movement & sharing of the basketball. LJack has real heart and did more than just shoot tonight; good defensively and like to see him get pumped. Clifford solid and a winner; I think his lack of rebounding in the end was a legs issue. Solid floor game by Anderson even though he didn't show up in the stat sheet...logged plenty of minutes, played good D, kept in it despite being a bit overmatched in the paint. Humph. looked pretty good too; limited stupid shots, etc.

Heckman made some crappy plays tonight and was benched accordingly. Did anyone else see the assistant coach jump off the bench after Heck's half-assed lob down low that was easily taken away? Curious how Heck seemed the strongest earlier on and now seems to make more of his share of bone-headed plays. Hope he gets it together.
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Re: Clemson @ Eagles 7:00 PM on the Deuce

Postby RedBaron67 on Fri Jan 13, 2012 2:00 am

I'm not going to go overboard about this team, but I have to say this game was a considerable step forward from most of the pre-conference season; they're showing some real signs of responding to Donahue's coaching. That said, the last minute or so of the game was a real horror; I can't remember the last time (if ever) I saw both teams throw away so many crucial opportunities at the end. Fortunately, Clemson made the last flub, and it was the prize of the night; I can understand why Booker committed a lane violation in that situation, but I still wouldn't expect to see it twice in my lifetime. Any way, it's a W in the book, it takes away a lot of pressure, and now the team can focus more clearly on numerous necessary improvements.
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Re: Clemson @ Eagles 7:00 PM on the Deuce

Postby Mike_S on Fri Jan 13, 2012 2:09 am

Good win tonight despite the poor FT shooting down the stretch. They played well most of the game at North Carolina as well.

I've seen the team on TV about 5 or 6 times now, and I think Clifford, Lonnie Jackson, and Ryan Anderson will all turn out to be pretty good players in time. Daniels is pretty good at PG now, and I think Caudill will be a good role player eventually as well.

The biggest missing piece on the team is a lead scoring guard who can create his own shot. If they somehow recruit someone like Troy Bell, Ty Rice, or Reggie Jackson, they will be definitely be a good team down the line. Heck, if Jackson had stayed they'd probably be competitive with all but the top teams now.

That said, I am yet to understand the excitement about Heckman. In the games I've seen he has not looked particularly good. Do people think he's really going to end up being a lead player ? If so, who might he compare to (previous BC, ACC, Big East, whatever) ?
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Re: Clemson @ Eagles 7:00 PM on the Deuce

Postby DavidGordonsFoot on Fri Jan 13, 2012 8:44 am

So much for Andy Katz's prediction.

Well done, boys.
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Re: Clemson @ Eagles 7:00 PM on the Deuce

Postby eepstein0 on Fri Jan 13, 2012 9:03 am

DavidGordonsFoot wrote:So much for Andy Katz's prediction.

Well done, boys.


Andy Katz is still upset that Skinner got fired.
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Re: Clemson @ Eagles 7:00 PM on the Deuce

Postby eagle9903 on Fri Jan 13, 2012 9:15 am

Mike_S wrote:Good win tonight despite the poor FT shooting down the stretch. They played well most of the game at North Carolina as well.

I've seen the team on TV about 5 or 6 times now, and I think Clifford, Lonnie Jackson, and Ryan Anderson will all turn out to be pretty good players in time. Daniels is pretty good at PG now, and I think Caudill will be a good role player eventually as well.

The biggest missing piece on the team is a lead scoring guard who can create his own shot. If they somehow recruit someone like Troy Bell, Ty Rice, or Reggie Jackson, they will be definitely be a good team down the line. Heck, if Jackson had stayed they'd probably be competitive with all but the top teams now.

That said, I am yet to understand the excitement about Heckman. In the games I've seen he has not looked particularly good. Do people think he's really going to end up being a lead player ? If so, who might he compare to (previous BC, ACC, Big East, whatever) ?


Heckmann seemed the most ready of the freshman against UNH in game one(by default as the rest of the team was extremely tentative) and had that 32 pt game against UC Riverside. He's had a few good offensive performances since then and some really abysmal ones. Some posters have speculated his ankle injury has kept him from performing as well as he did really early. I don't know. He can score a lot sometimes but he has a ton of turnovers. I see his realistic upside(assuming no injury) from what I've seen this season as a sixth man for a BC tournament team, where he could be instant offense off the bench, kind of what Jermaine Watson provided even though there game's are obviously dissimilar.

I like this team. I'm sure there will be regression at some point because they're still all freshmen, but I expect more good(relatively) games this season and a few more ACC wins. Clifford and Jackson have showed glimpses last night of maybe being able to carry the scoring load going forward and maybe one or more of them being that go-to player we've been talking about. I think Anderson probably has the most upside of anyone on this team, if he puts on some good weight in the off season he could be a beast going forward.

I appreciate Humphrey's fg %'s regression to the mean. He seems like he's figuring his role out, or maybe his role is changing(like Cahill, although I expect Humphrey to still play 15-20 minutes a night next year) as the freshman improve and gain confidence. Either way, he's looking better.
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Re: Clemson @ Eagles 7:00 PM on the Deuce

Postby pick6pedro on Fri Jan 13, 2012 9:16 am

The biggest difference I saw was that they weren't playing scared or looking overwhelmed the majority of the time. Still a ton of work to do, but PROGRESS.
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Re: Clemson @ Eagles 7:00 PM on the Deuce

Postby eagle9903 on Fri Jan 13, 2012 9:22 am

pick6pedro wrote:The biggest difference I saw was that they weren't playing scared or looking overwhelmed the majority of the time. Still a ton of work to do, but PROGRESS.


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Re: Clemson @ Eagles 7:00 PM on the Deuce

Postby HJS on Fri Jan 13, 2012 9:39 am

Saveagle wrote:I got the impression that Elmore and Bob Wischusen don't really like each other. There were some awkward exchanges during the telecast.

The most awkward sequence came with about 5 seconds left to play, Wischusen said "So... Len... what would you do here... whose hands do you want to get the ball into." Elmore answers "Well... before anything... they need to inbound the ball." Wischusen laughs dismissively and responds "Uh... yeah... let's assume they inbound the ball... then what?" [exhales somewhat exasperated]. Wischusen then proceeds to answer his own question.
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Re: Clemson @ Eagles 7:00 PM on the Deuce

Postby Ahzeem on Fri Jan 13, 2012 10:13 am

eagle9903 wrote:
Mike_S wrote:Good win tonight despite the poor FT shooting down the stretch. They played well most of the game at North Carolina as well.

I've seen the team on TV about 5 or 6 times now, and I think Clifford, Lonnie Jackson, and Ryan Anderson will all turn out to be pretty good players in time. Daniels is pretty good at PG now, and I think Caudill will be a good role player eventually as well.

The biggest missing piece on the team is a lead scoring guard who can create his own shot. If they somehow recruit someone like Troy Bell, Ty Rice, or Reggie Jackson, they will be definitely be a good team down the line. Heck, if Jackson had stayed they'd probably be competitive with all but the top teams now.

That said, I am yet to understand the excitement about Heckman. In the games I've seen he has not looked particularly good. Do people think he's really going to end up being a lead player ? If so, who might he compare to (previous BC, ACC, Big East, whatever) ?


Heckmann seemed the most ready of the freshman against UNH in game one(by default as the rest of the team was extremely tentative) and had that 32 pt game against UC Riverside. He's had a few good offensive performances since then and some really abysmal ones. Some posters have speculated his ankle injury has kept him from performing as well as he did really early. I don't know. He can score a lot sometimes but he has a ton of turnovers. I see his realistic upside(assuming no injury) from what I've seen this season as a sixth man for a BC tournament team, where he could be instant offense off the bench, kind of what Jermaine Watson provided even though there game's are obviously dissimilar.

I like this team. I'm sure there will be regression at some point because they're still all freshmen, but I expect more good(relatively) games this season and a few more ACC wins. Clifford and Jackson have showed glimpses last night of maybe being able to carry the scoring load going forward and maybe one or more of them being that go-to player we've been talking about. I think Anderson probably has the most upside of anyone on this team, if he puts on some good weight in the off season he could be a beast going forward.

I appreciate Humphrey's fg %'s regression to the mean. He seems like he's figuring his role out, or maybe his role is changing(like Cahill, although I expect Humphrey to still play 15-20 minutes a night next year) as the freshman improve and gain confidence. Either way, he's looking better.

These guys played well (for freshman) is :lame I am almost ready to puke from hearing that already. These guys are players that happen to be freshman set that aside and It all comes down to matchups... as to who will step up nightly; key on stopping Anderson deal with Clifford, sag on our bigs our guards drop hot rocks from downtown. Press the guards... pick and roll Heckman score 32 because nobody else stepped up in that game. He brings experience to a young team with his Euro playing experience, Now that his teammates are stepping up he may be pressing trying to find another 30+ game all of these guys are trying to learn to play as one unit... that's why the games here early on will all be fugly.

BC is at .500 in ACC now...smile on the real though, there is a good chance we are still at .500 ACC by the time we face Duke, :pontif
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Re: Clemson @ Eagles 7:00 PM on the Deuce

Postby eagle9903 on Fri Jan 13, 2012 10:17 am

Ahzeem wrote:
eagle9903 wrote:
Mike_S wrote:Good win tonight despite the poor FT shooting down the stretch. They played well most of the game at North Carolina as well.

I've seen the team on TV about 5 or 6 times now, and I think Clifford, Lonnie Jackson, and Ryan Anderson will all turn out to be pretty good players in time. Daniels is pretty good at PG now, and I think Caudill will be a good role player eventually as well.

The biggest missing piece on the team is a lead scoring guard who can create his own shot. If they somehow recruit someone like Troy Bell, Ty Rice, or Reggie Jackson, they will be definitely be a good team down the line. Heck, if Jackson had stayed they'd probably be competitive with all but the top teams now.

That said, I am yet to understand the excitement about Heckman. In the games I've seen he has not looked particularly good. Do people think he's really going to end up being a lead player ? If so, who might he compare to (previous BC, ACC, Big East, whatever) ?


Heckmann seemed the most ready of the freshman against UNH in game one(by default as the rest of the team was extremely tentative) and had that 32 pt game against UC Riverside. He's had a few good offensive performances since then and some really abysmal ones. Some posters have speculated his ankle injury has kept him from performing as well as he did really early. I don't know. He can score a lot sometimes but he has a ton of turnovers. I see his realistic upside(assuming no injury) from what I've seen this season as a sixth man for a BC tournament team, where he could be instant offense off the bench, kind of what Jermaine Watson provided even though there game's are obviously dissimilar.

I like this team. I'm sure there will be regression at some point because they're still all freshmen, but I expect more good(relatively) games this season and a few more ACC wins. Clifford and Jackson have showed glimpses last night of maybe being able to carry the scoring load going forward and maybe one or more of them being that go-to player we've been talking about. I think Anderson probably has the most upside of anyone on this team, if he puts on some good weight in the off season he could be a beast going forward.

I appreciate Humphrey's fg %'s regression to the mean. He seems like he's figuring his role out, or maybe his role is changing(like Cahill, although I expect Humphrey to still play 15-20 minutes a night next year) as the freshman improve and gain confidence. Either way, he's looking better.

These guys played well (for freshman) is :lame I am almost ready to puke from hearing that already. These guys are players that happen to be freshman set that aside and It all comes down to matchups... as to who will step up nightly; key on stopping Anderson deal with Clifford, sag on our bigs our guards drop hot rocks from downtown. Press the guards... pick and roll Heckman score 32 because nobody else stepped up in that game. He brings experience to a young team with his Euro playing experience, Now that his teammates are stepping up he may be pressing trying to find another 30+ game all of these guys are trying to learn to play as one unit... that's why the games here early on will all be fugly.

BC is at .500 in ACC now...smile on the real though, there is a good chance we are still at .500 ACC by the time we face Duke, :pontif


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