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Re: Heslip's Out Too...

PostPosted: Fri Apr 16, 2010 10:44 am
by Endless Mike
Captain D is building a good foundation. Losing Sanders and Heslip may hurt for a year, but if Donahue brings in BC Guys then I think this will be worth it.

Re: Heslip's Out Too...

PostPosted: Fri Apr 16, 2010 11:06 am
by WaterlooEagle
Does Heslip still have to sit a year out, since he never saw the court?

Re: Heslip's Out Too...

PostPosted: Fri Apr 16, 2010 11:09 am
by Cadillac90
BC '00 {l Wrote}:
Eagledom {l Wrote}:Maybe it was Heslip's decision to leave and he wasn't "kicked to the curb". Either way, have fun in Boise. Sorry the workouts were too hard for you to handle.


I never call you out (too many other people are happy to oblige), but this is ridiculous. How can you possibly say this kid was lazy? It sounded like he was one guy who really wanted to work his ass off. Poor form.



'00 - this shouldn't surprise you one bit. OJ is a mieserable retarded prick.

Re: Heslip's Out Too...

PostPosted: Fri Apr 16, 2010 11:10 am
by HJS
WaterlooEagle {l Wrote}:Does Heslip still have to sit a year out, since he never saw the court?

Yes. He took classes for free. That started his clock. He will have to sit a year which means he will only be able to play 3 years. However, this may be one of those rare occasions where BC will try and get him to be eligible to play immediately.

Re: Heslip's Out Too...

PostPosted: Fri Apr 16, 2010 11:10 am
by claver2010
WaterlooEagle {l Wrote}:Does Heslip still have to sit a year out, since he never saw the court?


As soon as you enroll I believe that starts you clock of college eligibility.

Re: Heslip's Out Too...

PostPosted: Fri Apr 16, 2010 11:16 am
by Shredder
claver2010 {l Wrote}:
WaterlooEagle {l Wrote}:Does Heslip still have to sit a year out, since he never saw the court?


As soon as you enroll I believe that starts you clock of college eligibility.


Does he lose the entire year or just a semester since he enrolled in the spring?

Re: Heslip's Out Too...

PostPosted: Fri Apr 16, 2010 11:32 am
by bcsoxfan12
Shredder {l Wrote}:
claver2010 {l Wrote}:
WaterlooEagle {l Wrote}:Does Heslip still have to sit a year out, since he never saw the court?


As soon as you enroll I believe that starts you clock of college eligibility.


Does he lose the entire year or just a semester since he enrolled in the spring?

I believe 1 second on the bench= 1 year used correct me if I’m wrong??

Re: Heslip's Out Too...

PostPosted: Fri Apr 16, 2010 11:57 am
by Logitano
bcsoxfan12 {l Wrote}:
Shredder {l Wrote}:
claver2010 {l Wrote}:
WaterlooEagle {l Wrote}:Does Heslip still have to sit a year out, since he never saw the court?


As soon as you enroll I believe that starts you clock of college eligibility.


Does he lose the entire year or just a semester since he enrolled in the spring?

I believe 1 second on the bench= 1 year used correct me if I’m wrong??


Heslip used his redshirt "year" by showing up early and not playing during the season. He will ultimately have only 3 seasons to play after next year. :ace

Re: Heslip's Out Too...

PostPosted: Fri Apr 16, 2010 11:59 am
by SouthieEagle
So with Heslip out, and with the potential departure of Noreen and Papa, we are going to have about 10 roster spots to fill next year (assuming we don't give out a few schollies on late flyers this year). What do you think the approach will be? fill all the spots ASAP? bank some scholarships? I would personally like to spread out the scholarships a little more so we have a 2-3 new recruits a year. What do you guys think...

Re: Heslip's Out Too...

PostPosted: Fri Apr 16, 2010 12:01 pm
by carolina2010
Nope. It's done on semester basis. So, Heslip lost 1 red-shirt semester. Athletes have 10-semesters of eligibility, but only 8 semesters where they can actually compete. Heslip still has 9 semesters of eligibility. So, he would be able to sit out the fall as a red-shirt and still have 8 semesters of eligibility. How those 8 semesters are broken up are up to Heslip and the school in question.

Re: Heslip's Out Too...

PostPosted: Fri Apr 16, 2010 12:03 pm
by Art Vandelay
SouthieEagle {l Wrote}:So with Heslip out, and with the potential departure of Noreen and Papa, we are going to have about 10 roster spots to fill next year (assuming we don't give out a few schollies on late flyers this year). What do you think the approach will be? fill all the spots ASAP? bank some scholarships? I would personally like to spread out the scholarships a little more so we have a 2-3 new recruits a year. What do you guys think...


Problem is we still need to field a team. Probably need at least 4 freshman for 2011-12 and maybe a transfer, which will help spread it out a little more.

Re: Heslip's Out Too...

PostPosted: Fri Apr 16, 2010 12:05 pm
by carolina2010
SouthieEagle {l Wrote}:So with Heslip out, and with the potential departure of Noreen and Papa, we are going to have about 10 roster spots to fill next year (assuming we don't give out a few schollies on late flyers this year). What do you think the approach will be? fill all the spots ASAP? bank some scholarships? I would personally like to spread out the scholarships a little more so we have a 2-3 new recruits a year. What do you guys think...


NCAA regulations stipulate that schools can only offer eight (8) basketball scholarships over a 2-year period and of those, only five(5) in a single year.

Re: Heslip's Out Too...

PostPosted: Fri Apr 16, 2010 12:15 pm
by bcmurph
NCAA regulations stipulate that schools can only offer eight (8) basketball scholarships over a 2-year period and of those, only five(5) in a single year.



It looks like Ohio State has 6 for next year?

http://insider.espn.go.com/ncb/recruiting/tracker/school?season=2010&schoolId=194&page=commits&action=login&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fncb%2frecruiting%2ftracker%2fschool%3fseason%3d2010%26schoolId%3d194%26page%3dcommits

Re: Heslip's Out Too...

PostPosted: Fri Apr 16, 2010 12:19 pm
by BCEagle74
carolina2010 {l Wrote}:Nope. It's done on semester basis. So, Heslip lost 1 red-shirt semester. Athletes have 10-semesters of eligibility, but only 8 semesters where they can actually compete. Heslip still has 9 semesters of eligibility. So, he would be able to sit out the fall as a red-shirt and still have 8 semesters of eligibility. How those 8 semesters are broken up are up to Heslip and the school in question.


I am coming back.. I drop 40, I can feel the speed returning now...I survived on Cheesesteaks 1970-1974.

Fats Lever....

You ain't seen nuthin yet...

I can set a pick like Wayne Embrey.

Re: Heslip's Out Too...

PostPosted: Fri Apr 16, 2010 12:19 pm
by Art Vandelay
carolina2010 {l Wrote}:
SouthieEagle {l Wrote}:So with Heslip out, and with the potential departure of Noreen and Papa, we are going to have about 10 roster spots to fill next year (assuming we don't give out a few schollies on late flyers this year). What do you think the approach will be? fill all the spots ASAP? bank some scholarships? I would personally like to spread out the scholarships a little more so we have a 2-3 new recruits a year. What do you guys think...


NCAA regulations stipulate that schools can only offer eight (8) basketball scholarships over a 2-year period and of those, only five(5) in a single year.


Pretty sure the 5-8 rule went away.

Re: Heslip's Out Too...

PostPosted: Fri Apr 16, 2010 12:27 pm
by carolina2010
Art Vandelay {l Wrote}:
carolina2010 {l Wrote}:
SouthieEagle {l Wrote}:So with Heslip out, and with the potential departure of Noreen and Papa, we are going to have about 10 roster spots to fill next year (assuming we don't give out a few schollies on late flyers this year). What do you think the approach will be? fill all the spots ASAP? bank some scholarships? I would personally like to spread out the scholarships a little more so we have a 2-3 new recruits a year. What do you guys think...


NCAA regulations stipulate that schools can only offer eight (8) basketball scholarships over a 2-year period and of those, only five(5) in a single year.


Pretty sure the 5-8 rule went away.


You're right. My bad. That was repealed awhile back.

Re: Heslip's Out Too...

PostPosted: Fri Apr 16, 2010 12:27 pm
by HJS
carolina2010 {l Wrote}:Nope. It's done on semester basis. So, Heslip lost 1 red-shirt semester. Athletes have 10-semesters of eligibility, but only 8 semesters where they can actually compete. Heslip still has 9 semesters of eligibility. So, he would be able to sit out the fall as a red-shirt and still have 8 semesters of eligibility. How those 8 semesters are broken up are up to Heslip and the school in question.

Ok... fine... but he has to sit out the next year (i.e. 2 semesters) due to the transfer rules.

The Fall of 2010, he cannot play but can use his final redshirt semester. The Spring of 2011, he cannot play and cannot use a redshirt. He can play Fall 2011/Spring 2012 and Fall 2012/Spring 2013 and Fall 2013/Spring 2014. But that will be it. As stated, unless he gets a special waiver, he will only be able to play 3 seasons... unless you think it realistic that a team would allow him to play November 2014 and December 2014 to exhaust his the extra semester of eligibility.

Re: Heslip's Out Too...

PostPosted: Fri Apr 16, 2010 12:27 pm
by andynugy415
No doubt the 5-8 rule is out, how would you explain Kentucky giving out 5-6 scholarships every year

Re: Heslip's Out Too...

PostPosted: Fri Apr 16, 2010 1:59 pm
by Logitano
carolina2010 {l Wrote}:Nope. It's done on semester basis. So, Heslip lost 1 red-shirt semester. Athletes have 10-semesters of eligibility, but only 8 semesters where they can actually compete. Heslip still has 9 semesters of eligibility. So, he would be able to sit out the fall as a red-shirt and still have 8 semesters of eligibility. How those 8 semesters are broken up are up to Heslip and the school in question.


Would you have been happier if I said 3 FULL seasons? He will be very helpful for the non-conference games for the fall semester of 2014. :ace

Re: Heslip's Out Too...

PostPosted: Fri Apr 16, 2010 2:02 pm
by BC '00
HJS {l Wrote}:The Fall of 2010, he cannot play but can use his final redshirt semester. The Spring of 2011, he cannot play and cannot use a redshirt. He can play Fall 2011/Spring 2012 and Fall 2012/Spring 2013 and Fall 2013.


So under this scenario, he'd only be able to play the first third or so of his senior season? That's retarded.

Re: Heslip's Out Too...

PostPosted: Fri Apr 16, 2010 2:09 pm
by Logitano
BC '00 {l Wrote}:
HJS {l Wrote}:The Fall of 2010, he cannot play but can use his final redshirt semester. The Spring of 2011, he cannot play and cannot use a redshirt. He can play Fall 2011/Spring 2012 and Fall 2012/Spring 2013 and Fall 2013.


So under this scenario, he'd only be able to play the first third or so of his senior season? That's retarded.


No, homojs' math was inaccurate he will have 6 full semesters after next year so it would be 2011-2012, 2012-2013, 2013-2014 and then 2014 I guess. :ace

Re: Heslip's Out Too...

PostPosted: Fri Apr 16, 2010 2:31 pm
by BCEagle74
Art Vandelay {l Wrote}:
carolina2010 {l Wrote}:
SouthieEagle {l Wrote}:So with Heslip out, and with the potential departure of Noreen and Papa, we are going to have about 10 roster spots to fill next year (assuming we don't give out a few schollies on late flyers this year). What do you think the approach will be? fill all the spots ASAP? bank some scholarships? I would personally like to spread out the scholarships a little more so we have a 2-3 new recruits a year. What do you guys think...


NCAA regulations stipulate that schools can only offer eight (8) basketball scholarships over a 2-year period and of those, only five(5) in a single year.


Pretty sure the 5-8 rule went away.


Thanks God my fat ass is 5' 8" 1/4.

Coach D...September 2010....74 is a walker-on...

"When is nap time and I have to go to the bathroom my prostate is killing me and I think my liver just bounced off my tongue with that last gasser.....and when is dinner..can i have a brownie?"

74 at first 2010 practice.

Re: Heslip's Out Too...

PostPosted: Fri Apr 16, 2010 2:39 pm
by eepstein0
BCEagle74 {l Wrote}:
Art Vandelay {l Wrote}:
carolina2010 {l Wrote}:
SouthieEagle {l Wrote}:So with Heslip out, and with the potential departure of Noreen and Papa, we are going to have about 10 roster spots to fill next year (assuming we don't give out a few schollies on late flyers this year). What do you think the approach will be? fill all the spots ASAP? bank some scholarships? I would personally like to spread out the scholarships a little more so we have a 2-3 new recruits a year. What do you guys think...


NCAA regulations stipulate that schools can only offer eight (8) basketball scholarships over a 2-year period and of those, only five(5) in a single year.


Pretty sure the 5-8 rule went away.


Thanks God my fat ass is 5' 8" 1/4.

Coach D...September 2010....74 is a walker-on...

"When is nap time and I have to go to the bathroom my prostate is killing me and I think my liver just bounced off my tongue with that last gasser.....and when is dinner..can i have a brownie?"

74 at first 2010 practice.


We may not be very talented, but at least the time will try on a more consistent basis. Also, you'll notice Coach D is starting to do that whole recruiting thing, our last coach wasn't too keen on that.

Re: Heslip's Out Too...

PostPosted: Fri Apr 16, 2010 2:41 pm
by BCEagle74
I think the scholarship rule has some sliding scale and deal for leavers like the 4 freshman at Kentucky or any school.

If you recruited 5, you get those 4 back, etc...

GDF gave me a meal stipend and a RA job in the Cheerleader dorm and shared bathrooms..

I can drill the 3 ball..I can basket hang....I ain't playing no stinkin defense...I am a shooter and a scorer...

Re: Heslip's Out Too...

PostPosted: Fri Apr 16, 2010 2:47 pm
by DavidGordonsFoot
BCEagle74 {l Wrote}:
I can drill the 3 ball..I can basket hang....I ain't playing no stinkin defense...I am a shooter and a scorer...


Do you like cheesesteaks from Lower Dining Hall?

Re: Heslip's Out Too...

PostPosted: Fri Apr 16, 2010 3:05 pm
by BCEagle74
DavidGordonsFoot {l Wrote}:
BCEagle74 {l Wrote}:
I can drill the 3 ball..I can basket hang....I ain't playing no stinkin defense...I am a shooter and a scorer...


Do you like cheesesteaks from Lower Dining Hall?


With mushrooms grilled in butter and patted down...no PAM...gives me the runs and I have enough running with Stevie D.

I love cheesesteaks..

I do like girls named Pam..especially if there nickname is PAM BAM!

Re: Heslip's Out Too...

PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 4:49 pm
by BCWest
SouthieEagle {l Wrote}:So with Heslip out, and with the potential departure of Noreen and Papa, we are going to have about 10 roster spots to fill next year (assuming we don't give out a few schollies on late flyers this year). What do you think the approach will be? fill all the spots ASAP? bank some scholarships? I would personally like to spread out the scholarships a little more so we have a 2-3 new recruits a year. What do you guys think...


The number of openings does bring to light some odd choices BC seems to be making. Your comments raise a pretty fair question.....which is more likely to be better deal.... Heslip for the next 4 years, or going without a player next year and then offering that scholarship to the 9th or 10th best player BC can get to sign for 2012?

Re: Heslip's Out Too...

PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 5:20 pm
by BCEagle74
I am estatic West.

If the kid could not be an ACC level guard who could take us to the title and we have 10 guys now albeit two are non-playing unless up by 30 white kids, Moso and Judge....then save the Bunny.

SAVE THE BUNNY for some talented kid. So in the next 2 years we have a full load of shells below deck...

Better to have a top level polished jewel with talent...then a maybe or coulda shoula who knows lets take a chance since we have so many openings...

SAVE THE BUNNIES!!!!!!