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Re: SKINNER GOES: POST WHO IS YOUR 1st PICK FOR COACH AND WHY?

PostPosted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 2:24 pm
by HJS
westwoodeagle {l Wrote}:
GreenvilleEagle {l Wrote}:
HJS {l Wrote}:It seems like a clear echelon has developed:

No Brainers: Kruger, Pearl, Few
Improvements: Baron, McCaffrey
Boring but acceptable: Coen
Certifiable trainwrecks: Cooley, O'Shea, Duquette, Lappas


I can aassure you that Gene will only be looking at Coen and the certifable trainwreck group. One thing about Napoleon is his consistency in hiring coaches who do not perform or challenge his realm.


I think Cooley should be moved up into Coen's group. We can definitely stop even joking around about Lappas. He hasn't coached since 2005 with his train wreck at UMass. He also almost broke my tv when I saw him doing halftime on the cbssports.com games. He's not nearly as handsome as Al.

Cooley would be a disaster. Go ahead... make me an argument for Cooley over Coen. You can't. If you are going to accept Cooley, who never even made it to be the top assistant, than you should accept Duke and O'Shea... and yes... even Lappas. All 4 suck and we would be doing MUCH worse off than if we just held onto Al.

Re: SKINNER GOES: POST WHO IS YOUR 1st PICK FOR COACH AND WHY?

PostPosted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 2:30 pm
by bignick33
HJS {l Wrote}:
westwoodeagle {l Wrote}:
GreenvilleEagle {l Wrote}:
HJS {l Wrote}:It seems like a clear echelon has developed:

No Brainers: Kruger, Pearl, Few
Improvements: Baron, McCaffrey
Boring but acceptable: Coen
Certifiable trainwrecks: Cooley, O'Shea, Duquette, Lappas


I can aassure you that Gene will only be looking at Coen and the certifable trainwreck group. One thing about Napoleon is his consistency in hiring coaches who do not perform or challenge his realm.


I think Cooley should be moved up into Coen's group. We can definitely stop even joking around about Lappas. He hasn't coached since 2005 with his train wreck at UMass. He also almost broke my tv when I saw him doing halftime on the cbssports.com games. He's not nearly as handsome as Al.

Cooley would be a disaster. Go ahead... make me an argument for Cooley over Coen. You can't. If you are going to accept Cooley, who never even made it to be the top assistant, than you should accept Duke and O'Shea... and yes... even Lappas. All 4 suck and we would be doing MUCH worse off than if we just held onto Al.


Well...he's an incredibly nice guy...durr

Re: SKINNER GOES: POST WHO IS YOUR 1st PICK FOR COACH AND WHY?

PostPosted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 2:30 pm
by bcmurph
Shredder {l Wrote}:
bcmurph {l Wrote}:Anyone know what Michael Adams is doing these days? I believe he was considered an up-and-comer when he resigned from Williams ataff at Maryland a few years ago...


I was thinking this exactly. He played at BC and has experience in the ACC under Williams including a championship. I don't think he has any head coaching experience which would work against him. I can't find anything on what he's done since he left Maryland.


Looks like he was training at this academy after he left Mayland

http://www.horizonbasketball.com/trainers.htm

Been coaching at a private high school in DC for the last year

http://www.archbishopcarroll.org/?q=athletics (scroll to the bottom)

Re: SKINNER GOES: POST WHO IS YOUR 1st PICK FOR COACH AND WHY?

PostPosted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 2:31 pm
by eepstein0
Art Vandelay {l Wrote}:
bignick33 {l Wrote}:STOP TALKING ABOUT STEVE FUCKING LAPPAS


I get the impression you don't like Steve Lappas.


Seriously, I'll root for another basketball team if we hire Steve Lappas.

Re: SKINNER GOES: POST WHO IS YOUR 1st PICK FOR COACH AND WHY?

PostPosted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 2:33 pm
by BCMcG
Bruce Pearl

I had some serious reservations about Pearl in the past. He has a checkered history and is a bit of a shady character. However, I give him a lot of credit for how he handled this season. He handled the media extremely well, didn't make any excuses, and, most importantly, moved on from the situation and won basketball games. He is exactly what BC needs right now. There is zero interest in the program, so BC needs a high energy guy as a catalyst to build off the foundation that Skinner has established. On top of that, Pearl is a good coach, an alum, and a local guy.

For this to be a realistic option, there are two requirements. The first is that Pearl needs to have a genuine interest in returning to Massachusetts to coach at BC. Why else would any major conference coach from a tournament program with a good following want to move onto a program with little fan support and is a third priority in the athletic department? On top of that, BC is a program with greater academic and recruiting restrictions. The move doesn't make sense unless he really wants to come home and make a mark at his alma mater. The second requirement would be that BC would have to pay at least what Tennessee is paying. The cost of living is higher in Massachusetts and there are certain "quality of life" benefits in Tennessee.

Unfortunately, I don't see BC hiring a coach with the cachet that Pearl has. As much as fans don't want to admit it, basketball is not a priority at BC. BC is willing to make the investment to get the exposure it gets from occasional tournament appearances. However, I'm not sure the university is willing to do what it takes to be a consistent top-tier program.

Re: SKINNER GOES: POST WHO IS YOUR 1st PICK FOR COACH AND WHY?

PostPosted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 2:36 pm
by eepstein0
BCMcG {l Wrote}:Bruce Pearl

I had some serious reservations about Pearl in the past. He has a checkered history and is a bit of a shady character. However, I give him a lot of credit for how he handled this season. He handled the media extremely well, didn't make any excuses, and, most importantly, moved on from the situation and won basketball games. He is exactly what BC needs right now. There is zero interest in the program, so BC needs a high energy guy as a catalyst to build off the foundation that Skinner has established. On top of that, Pearl is a good coach, an alum, and a local guy.

For this to be a realistic option, there are two requirements. The first is that Pearl needs to have a genuine interest in returning to Massachusetts to coach at BC. Why else would any major conference coach from a tournament program with a good following want to move onto a program with little fan support and is a third priority in the athletic department? On top of that, BC is a program with greater academic and recruiting restrictions. The move doesn't make sense unless he really wants to come home and make a mark at his alma mater. The second requirement would be that BC would have to pay at least what Tennessee is paying. The cost of living is higher in Massachusetts and there are certain "quality of life" benefits in Tennessee.

Unfortunately, I don't see BC hiring a coach with the cachet that Pearl has. As much as fans don't want to admit it, basketball is not a priority at BC. BC is willing to make the investment to get the exposure it gets from occasional tournament appearances. However, I'm not sure the university is willing to do what it takes to be a consistent top-tier program.


They'd probably make more money than they invested in Pearl if this team was in the Top 25 every year. I wouldn't expect any of the financial geniuses running the AD to realize that though.

Re: SKINNER GOES: POST WHO IS YOUR 1st PICK FOR COACH AND WHY?

PostPosted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 2:37 pm
by chuckfrombc
Internet quotations have Pearl earning 2.4 Million at Tennessee (total package). Can you see BC paying that with Al making less than 900K???

Re: SKINNER GOES: POST WHO IS YOUR 1st PICK FOR COACH AND WHY?

PostPosted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 2:38 pm
by westwoodeagle
HJS {l Wrote}:
westwoodeagle {l Wrote}:
GreenvilleEagle {l Wrote}:
HJS {l Wrote}:It seems like a clear echelon has developed:

No Brainers: Kruger, Pearl, Few
Improvements: Baron, McCaffrey
Boring but acceptable: Coen
Certifiable trainwrecks: Cooley, O'Shea, Duquette, Lappas


I can aassure you that Gene will only be looking at Coen and the certifable trainwreck group. One thing about Napoleon is his consistency in hiring coaches who do not perform or challenge his realm.


I think Cooley should be moved up into Coen's group. We can definitely stop even joking around about Lappas. He hasn't coached since 2005 with his train wreck at UMass. He also almost broke my tv when I saw him doing halftime on the cbssports.com games. He's not nearly as handsome as Al.

Cooley would be a disaster. Go ahead... make me an argument for Cooley over Coen. You can't. If you are going to accept Cooley, who never even made it to be the top assistant, than you should accept Duke and O'Shea... and yes... even Lappas. All 4 suck and we would be doing MUCH worse off than if we just held onto Al.


I wouldn't make an argument for Cooley over Coen because I think Coen would be a much better hire. Thanks though. Cooley is different from Duquette because he's been a head coach before - Duke isn't ready. O'Shea just signed a very long term deal to coach that up-and-coming powerhouse in Bryant and even though I tend to give Gene the benefit of the doubt, there's no way he's dumb enough to hire a coach coming off a 1 win season.

Lappas isn't happening because he's been out of basketball for 5 years. You pulled that name out of nowhere. I guarentee Gene and Lappas haven't spoken since 1997 aside from possibly bumping into each other.

Re: SKINNER GOES: POST WHO IS YOUR 1st PICK FOR COACH AND WHY?

PostPosted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 2:59 pm
by BCEagle74
Merge ALL 4 THREADS.

Re: SKINNER GOES: POST WHO IS YOUR 1st PICK FOR COACH AND WHY?

PostPosted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 3:12 pm
by ATLeagle
I don't think Gene would ever have the guts to hire Bruce Pearl. Even if he did hire Pearl and said he would be hands off, it would only last a season or two before one of them blew up.

O'Shea and Duke probably hurt their chances with this season. Cooley probably helped his chances but this is Coen's job to lose.

Re: SKINNER GOES: POST WHO IS YOUR 1st PICK FOR COACH AND WHY?

PostPosted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 3:26 pm
by eepstein0
ATLeagle {l Wrote}:I don't think Gene would ever have the guts to hire Bruce Pearl. Even if he did hire Pearl and said he would be hands off, it would only last a season or two before one of them blew up.

O'Shea and Duke probably hurt their chances with this season. Cooley probably helped his chances but this is Coen's job to lose.


That's depressing. Can we work a clause into the contract that says they have to take Gene with Al?

Re: SKINNER GOES: POST WHO IS YOUR 1st PICK FOR COACH AND WHY?

PostPosted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 3:33 pm
by Art Vandelay
eepstein0 {l Wrote}:
ATLeagle {l Wrote}:I don't think Gene would ever have the guts to hire Bruce Pearl. Even if he did hire Pearl and said he would be hands off, it would only last a season or two before one of them blew up.

O'Shea and Duke probably hurt their chances with this season. Cooley probably helped his chances but this is Coen's job to lose.


That's depressing. Can we work a clause into the contract that says they have to take Gene with Al?


That is really depressing.

Re: SKINNER GOES: POST WHO IS YOUR 1st PICK FOR COACH AND WHY?

PostPosted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 3:49 pm
by HJS
Wait... are we coming to the realization that I've been right all these years???

Re: SKINNER GOES: POST WHO IS YOUR 1st PICK FOR COACH AND WHY?

PostPosted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 4:34 pm
by hawaiirob
I actually bet GDF goes outside the Skinner Tree. But I doubt it will be a big name for you Few/Knight people.

Re: SKINNER GOES: POST WHO IS YOUR 1st PICK FOR COACH AND WHY?

PostPosted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 4:49 pm
by BCEagles25
1. Keno Davis - Owns New England recruiting. The 12-19 record with a talented Providence team scares me, but I'll take the chances.

2. Bill Coen - The man who discovered Jared Dudley, Craig Smith and Troy Bell just to name a few. Notice how when he left BC basketball hit the shitter.

Re: SKINNER GOES: POST WHO IS YOUR 1st PICK FOR COACH AND WHY?

PostPosted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 4:49 pm
by cvilleagle
TobaccoRoadEagle {l Wrote}:
BCEagle74 {l Wrote}:Merge ALL 4 THREADS.


no. we've been told that makes the infant baby christmas jesus cry


I like to think of Jesus like with giant eagles wings, and singin' lead vocals for Lynyrd Skynyrd with like an angel band and I'm in the front row and I'm hammered drunk!

Re: SKINNER GOES: POST WHO IS YOUR 1st PICK FOR COACH AND WHY?

PostPosted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 5:10 pm
by BCEagle74
TobaccoRoadEagle {l Wrote}:
BCEagle74 {l Wrote}:Merge ALL 4 THREADS.


no. we've been told that makes the infant baby christmas jesus cry


Jesus always hustled.

They killed him on Friday and they thought-----boom on the injured reserve list for life and in 2 days Jesus was back and resurrected his career.

Re: SKINNER GOES: POST WHO IS YOUR 1st PICK FOR COACH AND WHY?

PostPosted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 9:13 pm
by InTheKnow
My choices would be Baron(URI), Coen(NU), Dana Barros, Pearl(Tenn) he'll never find a removal spray strong enough to get rid of Pat summits name on that court.might catch some heat for this but Mike Jarvis

Re: SKINNER GOES: POST WHO IS YOUR 1st PICK FOR COACH AND WHY?

PostPosted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 11:22 pm
by 1981Eagle
Pearl is probably out of reach and he won't take GDF's Napoleon shit. The guy from Harvard--Amaker. I still think he could be a great coach. He's kicked our ass twice now. He's a Coach K disciple. Knows how to coach at a school with academic requirements. Yes, I know he was spotty at Seton and Michigan. Chuck Daly was spotty too--until AFTER he left BC.

Re: SKINNER GOES: POST WHO IS YOUR 1st PICK FOR COACH AND WHY?

PostPosted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 11:24 pm
by Byrdcall J
BCEagles25 {l Wrote}:1. Keno Davis - Owns New England recruiting. The 12-19 record with a talented Providence team scares me, but I'll take the chances.

2. Bill Coen - The man who discovered Jared Dudley, Craig Smith and Troy Bell just to name a few. Notice how when he left BC basketball hit the shitter.


I don't think I could get behind a Keno Davis hiring. I watched several PC games this year including one in person at the Dunk against 'Cuse and the Friars were a certifiable disaster. No offensive movement without the ball, pitiful defense... just 5 individual players with no cohesion. You think watching the flex offense is frustrating? How about watching your team run no offense whatsoever, because that's what Providence did this year.

I got the distinct feeling that Davis was in over his head this year in the Big East.

Re: SKINNER GOES: POST WHO IS YOUR 1st PICK FOR COACH AND WHY?

PostPosted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 11:35 pm
by HJS
hawaiirob {l Wrote}:I actually bet GDF goes outside the Skinner Tree. But I doubt it will be a big name for you Few/Knight people.

While I can dream of BC landing a Lon Kruger, I know it ain't happening. If GDF is willing to go outside the Skinner Tree and desires to hire someone for under a mil, Baron, McCaffrey and possibly even Rice would be a welcome addition.

Re: SKINNER GOES: POST WHO IS YOUR 1st PICK FOR COACH AND WHY?

PostPosted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 1:14 am
by bignick33
Stop talking about Keno Davis.

Re: SKINNER GOES: POST WHO IS YOUR 1st PICK FOR COACH AND WHY?

PostPosted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 1:24 am
by Byrdcall J
bignick33 {l Wrote}:Stop talking about Keno Davis.


Keno Davis. Keno Davis. Keno Davis.

The Keno Davis Court at Steve Lappas Arena.

Re: SKINNER GOES: POST WHO IS YOUR 1st PICK FOR COACH AND WHY?

PostPosted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 11:55 am
by BCEagle74
BCEagle74 {l Wrote}:
ATLeagle {l Wrote}:I don't want Xavier or Butler coaches. Neither have shown anything yet.

Pearl would be my first choice, but he is not coming.
McCaffery would be ok though a bit old. Same with Barron.

Coen is likely the guy.


The likely choice is usually what the weakling and loser GDF always does.

To me Coen is vanilla pudding and Northeatern has done OK, but that is another level of hoops, not saying BC is there now too!

I would rather have Joel and Ethan Coen
.


I understand WH Macy will be brought in as the "COOLER" to ice the other team when Coen takes over.

Re: SKINNER GOES: POST WHO IS YOUR 1st PICK FOR COACH AND WHY?

PostPosted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 12:44 pm
by claver2010
eepstein0 {l Wrote}:They'd probably make more money than they invested in Pearl if this team was in the Top 25 every year. I wouldn't expect any of the financial geniuses running the AD to realize that though.


See that's what I don't get. If we hire a big name coach and achieve subsequent success: More people buy tickets, which means more donations, which means more $$$ (which is what this AD is all about, not winning championships).

Re: SKINNER GOES: POST WHO IS YOUR 1st PICK FOR COACH AND WHY?

PostPosted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 12:47 pm
by janebc
Shows how we are regressing in some respects. When Al was hired, he was an exciting up-and-comer, and everyone was excited to get him (just like Jags). Now we can just about figure that the most boring and least innovative candidate will get it.

Re: SKINNER GOES: POST WHO IS YOUR 1st PICK FOR COACH AND WHY?

PostPosted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 12:50 pm
by BC923
Byrdcall J {l Wrote}:
bignick33 {l Wrote}:Stop talking about Keno Davis.


Keno Davis. Keno Davis. Keno Davis.

The Keno Davis Court at Steve Lappas Arena.


exalt

Re: SKINNER GOES: POST WHO IS YOUR 1st PICK FOR COACH AND WHY?

PostPosted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 12:51 pm
by twballgame9
ATLeagle {l Wrote}:74, the flex is not the problem. Did you notice Xavier running multiple flex sets last night? I know people think it is a "high school" offense, but so is the motion and you never hear anyone complain about Duke.


If motion was your high school offense, your kids were too smart to be any good.

Re: SKINNER GOES: POST WHO IS YOUR 1st PICK FOR COACH AND WHY?

PostPosted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 12:54 pm
by BC923
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:
ATLeagle {l Wrote}:74, the flex is not the problem. Did you notice Xavier running multiple flex sets last night? I know people think it is a "high school" offense, but so is the motion and you never hear anyone complain about Duke.


If motion was your high school offense, your kids were too smart to be any good.


I don't care if we run the flex, I don't care if we run the motion. The thing that bothers me about Al is how stubborn he is, quite simply, we don't have the personnel to run flex this year. We need a coach that doesn't just stick with one system, we need a coach that runs an offense that fits what players he has.

Re: SKINNER GOES: POST WHO IS YOUR 1st PICK FOR COACH AND WHY?

PostPosted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 12:58 pm
by twballgame9
Surprised no one has mentioned Tommy Amaker.