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pick6pedro {l Wrote}:

Shaddix {l Wrote}:Commit! Garland committed to BC

Excellent news! Welcome Garland!

We're not really in a position to pass up kids with his athleticism. Going to be fun watching Hanlan and Daniels throwing him alley-oops.

Agreed. Also, skipping a recruiting class is always a bad idea so I'm happy to have at least one guy in the class.

Kid looks like he has excellent athleticism, shows a nice knack of shot blocking as well

Owens looks like a solid athlete, having a football background you'd have to assume he plays bigger than his size. With the ACC adding 3 Big East schools you would have to think that recruits will have to look @ BC as a solid option if you want to play in the # 1 college hoops league.

eepstein0 {l Wrote}:

pick6pedro {l Wrote}:

Shaddix {l Wrote}:Commit! Garland committed to BC

Excellent news! Welcome Garland!

We're not really in a position to pass up kids with his athleticism. Going to be fun watching Hanlan and Daniels throwing him alley-oops.

A player who can chip a tooth on the rim (as Owens has) will definitely be a refreshing change of pace; he also has an intriguing upside not only in his skills but in his age -- apparently he's not 18 yet. He does need some work on his handle and his perimeter shot, but he looks like he's prepared to do the work. He's also heavily recommended as a good kid, which should be a plus for team chemistry.

Shaddix {l Wrote}:Top 2 targets for 2014:

Terrell and Cimino?

or Joseph and Brennan?

Any guard/forward pairing among the above would be wonderful, but they're all recognized quality players and will be tough gets. Terrell and Joseph both stockpiled high-major offers this summer. Brennan and Cimino have not only high majors but also academic powerhouses after them; Brennan has offers from Brown and Yale, while Cimino has attracted interest from Harvard and Stanford. At the moment, it appears that BC's best shots are with Cimino and Joseph. A good (or at least much improved) performance by BC this season would be enormously helpful for 2014 recruiting.

RedBaron67 {l Wrote}:

Shaddix {l Wrote}:Top 2 targets for 2014:

Terrell and Cimino?

or Joseph and Brennan?

Any guard/forward pairing among the above would be wonderful, but they're all recognized quality players and will be tough gets. Terrell and Joseph both stockpiled high-major offers this summer. Brennan and Cimino have not only high majors but also academic powerhouses after them; Brennan has offers from Brown and Yale, while Cimino has attracted interest from Harvard and Stanford. At the moment, it appears that BC's best shots are with Cimino and Joseph. A good (or at least much improved) performance by BC this season would be enormously helpful for 2014 recruiting.

Cimino and Joseph have been the highest on BC of all these guys...Cimino absolutely LOVED his visit and BC has been on Joseph for a long time.

Video of Garland committing: http://vimeo.com/51881719

BCEaglesFan {l Wrote}:Video of Garland committing: http://vimeo.com/51881719

Garland seems like a good kid. I am glad Donahue is recruiting these types of players. Two observations: (1) he said "Boston College University" - ouch and (2) where did they get that BC hat? is that an officially licensed logo?

Wait, someone did the hat routine and actually picked BC? That must be a first

no shot at Brennan. Brennan is coming off a visit to Purdue and Northwestern this past weekend. BC waited to long to offer Brennan even after everyone realized he's for along in the development process then Dennis Clifford was at this time when they they both played for Milton Academy. If BC continues to land recruits outside of New England it won't be good for coaching staffs future.

I don't see BC getting the 4/5 star recruit, but the 3 star local players, if they fit coach D style of play, should want to play at BC.

781 {l Wrote}:no shot at Brennan. Brennan is coming off a visit to Purdue and Northwestern this past weekend. BC waited to long to offer Brennan even after everyone realized he's for along in the development process then Dennis Clifford was at this time when they they both played for Milton Academy. If BC continues to land recruits outside of New England it won't be good for coaching staffs future.

This is the kind of statement I can't read without telling the poster he/she is retarded.

RedBaron67 {l Wrote}:

eepstein0 {l Wrote}:

pick6pedro {l Wrote}:

Shaddix {l Wrote}:Commit! Garland committed to BC

Excellent news! Welcome Garland!

We're not really in a position to pass up kids with his athleticism. Going to be fun watching Hanlan and Daniels throwing him alley-oops.

A player who can chip a tooth on the rim (as Owens has) will definitely be a refreshing change of pace; he also has an intriguing upside not only in his skills but in his age -- apparently he's not 18 yet. He does need some work on his handle and his perimeter shot, but he looks like he's prepared to do the work. He's also heavily recommended as a good kid, which should be a plus for team chemistry.

Donahue turned Reggie Jackson into a 50% 3 point shooter. I'm confident in his ability to take athletes and teach them basketball skill. I wish we would use this recruiting strategy more often.

Frankly, I watched the video, and his ball skills are pretty good, and while he doesn't seem like a huge outside threat, he has a nice stroke. This is a very good get - he's stupidly athletic, big and strong, and has the core skills for the Don to work with.

If you were going to grab a 3 instead of a 4, this is a nice get.

15 offers even though most of them were mid majors is still pretty good. You can't teach athleticism so another year at prep school should really help his game. Wouldn't still mind to get a big man whats up with Dingba?

sweetriverbaines {l Wrote}:Owens looks like a solid athlete, having a football background you'd have to assume he plays bigger than his size. With the ACC adding 3 Big East schools you would have to think that recruits will have to look @ BC as a solid option if you want to play in the # 1 college hoops league.

The best part of his video is his aggressiveness. One of the biggest problems most forwards have his not being aggressive enough. Size and athleticism pretty much don't matter if you can play tough and aggressive the entire time (Danya, Craig, Rashod Kent, Rodman, Duds, Artest, Barkley, etc., etc., etc.). He's got suspect height, good strength and great athleticism. If he focuses on staying relentless and constantly moving towards the basket, there is no reason he can be a high ACC player. I don't think he will be much of a shooter, but I think he will be a high effort, scrappy player. I love those types.

I think Owens is a great compliment to what we have returning next year. However, we still NEED to land a PF in THIS CLASS. Don't give me nonsense about 2014 players who won't be interested in us past April. We needed another big last year. Avoiding it two years in a row is simply sticking your head in the sand.

Cadillac90 {l Wrote}:

BCEaglesFan {l Wrote}:Video of Garland committing: http://vimeo.com/51881719

Garland seems like a good kid. I am glad Donahue is recruiting these types of players. Two observations: (1) he said "Boston College University" - ouch and (2) where did they get that BC hat? is that an officially licensed logo?

I liked the hat... it seemed like the old school version from back in my era.

Probably not fair to compare him to a McD's all american, but his size and slashing game in those clips reminds of Mike Jones. Maybe he can develop a similar jumper.

HJS {l Wrote}:

sweetriverbaines {l Wrote}:Owens looks like a solid athlete, having a football background you'd have to assume he plays bigger than his size. With the ACC adding 3 Big East schools you would have to think that recruits will have to look @ BC as a solid option if you want to play in the # 1 college hoops league.

The best part of his video is his aggressiveness. One of the biggest problems most forwards have his not being aggressive enough. Size and athleticism pretty much don't matter if you can play tough and aggressive the entire time (Danya, Craig, Rashod Kent, Rodman, Duds, Artest, Barkley, etc., etc., etc.). He's got suspect height, good strength and great athleticism. If he focuses on staying relentless and constantly moving towards the basket, there is no reason he can be a high ACC player. I don't think he will be much of a shooter, but I think he will be a high effort, scrappy player. I love those types.

I think Owens is a great compliment to what we have returning next year. However, we still NEED to land a PF in THIS CLASS. Don't give me nonsense about 2014 players who won't be interested in us past April. We needed another big last year. Avoiding it two years in a row is simply sticking your head in the sand.

Not that its any more in response to this post than the billion others calling for big man depth and not that I don't think it would be great to have, but out of the three best Skinner teams in my opinion, neither the 2000-2001 (6'8 Agbai and 6'7 Beerbohm backed up by 6'8 B-Ross [this was not actually the lineup a lot of the time as they played smaller than this] and Andrew Dudley was on the team but only played in five games and had three FGA, making one) nor the 2004-2005 (Dornekamp and Smith backed up by *** *******, with Oates and McLain on the team but barely playing as true frosh) had good frontcourt depth. 2000-01 was worse than the current situation beyond argument, but the guard play was the engine behind that team so its not a straight apples to apples comparison. 2004-05 was at worse a little bit better than the current situation, Williams was wayyy better than anything we have no off the bench as a true frosh, but at that point his offensive game was disgustingly bad and he had less boards than Jermaine Watson, he was fun to watch play though. 2005-06 had decent front court depth.

eagle9903 {l Wrote}:

HJS {l Wrote}:

sweetriverbaines {l Wrote}:Owens looks like a solid athlete, having a football background you'd have to assume he plays bigger than his size. With the ACC adding 3 Big East schools you would have to think that recruits will have to look @ BC as a solid option if you want to play in the # 1 college hoops league.

The best part of his video is his aggressiveness. One of the biggest problems most forwards have his not being aggressive enough. Size and athleticism pretty much don't matter if you can play tough and aggressive the entire time (Danya, Craig, Rashod Kent, Rodman, Duds, Artest, Barkley, etc., etc., etc.). He's got suspect height, good strength and great athleticism. If he focuses on staying relentless and constantly moving towards the basket, there is no reason he can be a high ACC player. I don't think he will be much of a shooter, but I think he will be a high effort, scrappy player. I love those types.

I think Owens is a great compliment to what we have returning next year. However, we still NEED to land a PF in THIS CLASS. Don't give me nonsense about 2014 players who won't be interested in us past April. We needed another big last year. Avoiding it two years in a row is simply sticking your head in the sand.

Not that its any more in response to this post than the billion others calling for big man depth and not that I don't think it would be great to have, but out of the three best Skinner teams in my opinion, neither the 2000-2001 (6'8 Agbai and 6'7 Beerbohm backed up by 6'8 B-Ross [this was not actually the lineup a lot of the time as they played smaller than this] and Andrew Dudley was on the team but only played in five games and had three FGA, making one) nor the 2004-2005 (Dornekamp and Smith backed up by *** *******, with Oates and McLain on the team but barely playing as true frosh) had good frontcourt depth. 2000-01 was worse than the current situation beyond argument, but the guard play was the engine behind that team so its not a straight apples to apples comparison. 2004-05 was at worse a little bit better than the current situation, Williams was wayyy better than anything we have no off the bench as a true frosh, but at that point his offensive game was disgustingly bad and he had less boards than Jermaine Watson, he was fun to watch play though. 2005-06 had decent front court depth.

Skinner played the Flex. Donahue wants to run.

twballgame9 {l Wrote}:

eagle9903 {l Wrote}:

HJS {l Wrote}:

sweetriverbaines {l Wrote}:Owens looks like a solid athlete, having a football background you'd have to assume he plays bigger than his size. With the ACC adding 3 Big East schools you would have to think that recruits will have to look @ BC as a solid option if you want to play in the # 1 college hoops league.

The best part of his video is his aggressiveness. One of the biggest problems most forwards have his not being aggressive enough. Size and athleticism pretty much don't matter if you can play tough and aggressive the entire time (Danya, Craig, Rashod Kent, Rodman, Duds, Artest, Barkley, etc., etc., etc.). He's got suspect height, good strength and great athleticism. If he focuses on staying relentless and constantly moving towards the basket, there is no reason he can be a high ACC player. I don't think he will be much of a shooter, but I think he will be a high effort, scrappy player. I love those types.

I think Owens is a great compliment to what we have returning next year. However, we still NEED to land a PF in THIS CLASS. Don't give me nonsense about 2014 players who won't be interested in us past April. We needed another big last year. Avoiding it two years in a row is simply sticking your head in the sand.

Not that its any more in response to this post than the billion others calling for big man depth and not that I don't think it would be great to have, but out of the three best Skinner teams in my opinion, neither the 2000-2001 (6'8 Agbai and 6'7 Beerbohm backed up by 6'8 B-Ross [this was not actually the lineup a lot of the time as they played smaller than this] and Andrew Dudley was on the team but only played in five games and had three FGA, making one) nor the 2004-2005 (Dornekamp and Smith backed up by *** *******, with Oates and McLain on the team but barely playing as true frosh) had good frontcourt depth. 2000-01 was worse than the current situation beyond argument, but the guard play was the engine behind that team so its not a straight apples to apples comparison. 2004-05 was at worse a little bit better than the current situation, Williams was wayyy better than anything we have no off the bench as a true frosh, but at that point his offensive game was disgustingly bad and he had less boards than Jermaine Watson, he was fun to watch play though. 2005-06 had decent front court depth.

Skinner played the Flex. Donahue wants to run.

Doesn't that make going small for longer stretches more palatable?

eagle9903 {l Wrote}:

twballgame9 {l Wrote}:

eagle9903 {l Wrote}:

HJS {l Wrote}:

sweetriverbaines {l Wrote}:Owens looks like a solid athlete, having a football background you'd have to assume he plays bigger than his size. With the ACC adding 3 Big East schools you would have to think that recruits will have to look @ BC as a solid option if you want to play in the # 1 college hoops league.

The best part of his video is his aggressiveness. One of the biggest problems most forwards have his not being aggressive enough. Size and athleticism pretty much don't matter if you can play tough and aggressive the entire time (Danya, Craig, Rashod Kent, Rodman, Duds, Artest, Barkley, etc., etc., etc.). He's got suspect height, good strength and great athleticism. If he focuses on staying relentless and constantly moving towards the basket, there is no reason he can be a high ACC player. I don't think he will be much of a shooter, but I think he will be a high effort, scrappy player. I love those types.

I think Owens is a great compliment to what we have returning next year. However, we still NEED to land a PF in THIS CLASS. Don't give me nonsense about 2014 players who won't be interested in us past April. We needed another big last year. Avoiding it two years in a row is simply sticking your head in the sand.

Not that its any more in response to this post than the billion others calling for big man depth and not that I don't think it would be great to have, but out of the three best Skinner teams in my opinion, neither the 2000-2001 (6'8 Agbai and 6'7 Beerbohm backed up by 6'8 B-Ross [this was not actually the lineup a lot of the time as they played smaller than this] and Andrew Dudley was on the team but only played in five games and had three FGA, making one) nor the 2004-2005 (Dornekamp and Smith backed up by *** *******, with Oates and McLain on the team but barely playing as true frosh) had good frontcourt depth. 2000-01 was worse than the current situation beyond argument, but the guard play was the engine behind that team so its not a straight apples to apples comparison. 2004-05 was at worse a little bit better than the current situation, Williams was wayyy better than anything we have no off the bench as a true frosh, but at that point his offensive game was disgustingly bad and he had less boards than Jermaine Watson, he was fun to watch play though. 2005-06 had decent front court depth.

Skinner played the Flex. Donahue wants to run.

Doesn't that make going small for longer stretches more palatable?

I suppose. What it really requires is more depth.

twballgame9 {l Wrote}:

eagle9903 {l Wrote}:

twballgame9 {l Wrote}:

eagle9903 {l Wrote}:

HJS {l Wrote}:

sweetriverbaines {l Wrote}:Owens looks like a solid athlete, having a football background you'd have to assume he plays bigger than his size. With the ACC adding 3 Big East schools you would have to think that recruits will have to look @ BC as a solid option if you want to play in the # 1 college hoops league.

The best part of his video is his aggressiveness. One of the biggest problems most forwards have his not being aggressive enough. Size and athleticism pretty much don't matter if you can play tough and aggressive the entire time (Danya, Craig, Rashod Kent, Rodman, Duds, Artest, Barkley, etc., etc., etc.). He's got suspect height, good strength and great athleticism. If he focuses on staying relentless and constantly moving towards the basket, there is no reason he can be a high ACC player. I don't think he will be much of a shooter, but I think he will be a high effort, scrappy player. I love those types.

I think Owens is a great compliment to what we have returning next year. However, we still NEED to land a PF in THIS CLASS. Don't give me nonsense about 2014 players who won't be interested in us past April. We needed another big last year. Avoiding it two years in a row is simply sticking your head in the sand.

Not that its any more in response to this post than the billion others calling for big man depth and not that I don't think it would be great to have, but out of the three best Skinner teams in my opinion, neither the 2000-2001 (6'8 Agbai and 6'7 Beerbohm backed up by 6'8 B-Ross [this was not actually the lineup a lot of the time as they played smaller than this] and Andrew Dudley was on the team but only played in five games and had three FGA, making one) nor the 2004-2005 (Dornekamp and Smith backed up by *** *******, with Oates and McLain on the team but barely playing as true frosh) had good frontcourt depth. 2000-01 was worse than the current situation beyond argument, but the guard play was the engine behind that team so its not a straight apples to apples comparison. 2004-05 was at worse a little bit better than the current situation, Williams was wayyy better than anything we have no off the bench as a true frosh, but at that point his offensive game was disgustingly bad and he had less boards than Jermaine Watson, he was fun to watch play though. 2005-06 had decent front court depth.

Skinner played the Flex. Donahue wants to run.

Doesn't that make going small for longer stretches more palatable?

I suppose. What it really requires is more depth.

But Its a different kind of depth, in that you can get away with say Anderson at the 5 or Odio on the court potentially, if it is actually working.

eagle9903 {l Wrote}:

twballgame9 {l Wrote}:

eagle9903 {l Wrote}:

twballgame9 {l Wrote}:

eagle9903 {l Wrote}:

HJS {l Wrote}:

sweetriverbaines {l Wrote}:Owens looks like a solid athlete, having a football background you'd have to assume he plays bigger than his size. With the ACC adding 3 Big East schools you would have to think that recruits will have to look @ BC as a solid option if you want to play in the # 1 college hoops league.

The best part of his video is his aggressiveness. One of the biggest problems most forwards have his not being aggressive enough. Size and athleticism pretty much don't matter if you can play tough and aggressive the entire time (Danya, Craig, Rashod Kent, Rodman, Duds, Artest, Barkley, etc., etc., etc.). He's got suspect height, good strength and great athleticism. If he focuses on staying relentless and constantly moving towards the basket, there is no reason he can be a high ACC player. I don't think he will be much of a shooter, but I think he will be a high effort, scrappy player. I love those types.

I think Owens is a great compliment to what we have returning next year. However, we still NEED to land a PF in THIS CLASS. Don't give me nonsense about 2014 players who won't be interested in us past April. We needed another big last year. Avoiding it two years in a row is simply sticking your head in the sand.

Not that its any more in response to this post than the billion others calling for big man depth and not that I don't think it would be great to have, but out of the three best Skinner teams in my opinion, neither the 2000-2001 (6'8 Agbai and 6'7 Beerbohm backed up by 6'8 B-Ross [this was not actually the lineup a lot of the time as they played smaller than this] and Andrew Dudley was on the team but only played in five games and had three FGA, making one) nor the 2004-2005 (Dornekamp and Smith backed up by *** *******, with Oates and McLain on the team but barely playing as true frosh) had good frontcourt depth. 2000-01 was worse than the current situation beyond argument, but the guard play was the engine behind that team so its not a straight apples to apples comparison. 2004-05 was at worse a little bit better than the current situation, Williams was wayyy better than anything we have no off the bench as a true frosh, but at that point his offensive game was disgustingly bad and he had less boards than Jermaine Watson, he was fun to watch play though. 2005-06 had decent front court depth.

Skinner played the Flex. Donahue wants to run.

Doesn't that make going small for longer stretches more palatable?

I suppose. What it really requires is more depth.

But Its a different kind of depth, in that you can get away with say Anderson at the 5 or Odio on the court potentially, if it is actually working.

Can't start the break without the defensive rebound.

twballgame9 {l Wrote}:

eagle9903 {l Wrote}:

twballgame9 {l Wrote}:

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twballgame9 {l Wrote}:

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HJS {l Wrote}:

sweetriverbaines {l Wrote}:Owens looks like a solid athlete, having a football background you'd have to assume he plays bigger than his size. With the ACC adding 3 Big East schools you would have to think that recruits will have to look @ BC as a solid option if you want to play in the # 1 college hoops league.

The best part of his video is his aggressiveness. One of the biggest problems most forwards have his not being aggressive enough. Size and athleticism pretty much don't matter if you can play tough and aggressive the entire time (Danya, Craig, Rashod Kent, Rodman, Duds, Artest, Barkley, etc., etc., etc.). He's got suspect height, good strength and great athleticism. If he focuses on staying relentless and constantly moving towards the basket, there is no reason he can be a high ACC player. I don't think he will be much of a shooter, but I think he will be a high effort, scrappy player. I love those types.

I think Owens is a great compliment to what we have returning next year. However, we still NEED to land a PF in THIS CLASS. Don't give me nonsense about 2014 players who won't be interested in us past April. We needed another big last year. Avoiding it two years in a row is simply sticking your head in the sand.

Not that its any more in response to this post than the billion others calling for big man depth and not that I don't think it would be great to have, but out of the three best Skinner teams in my opinion, neither the 2000-2001 (6'8 Agbai and 6'7 Beerbohm backed up by 6'8 B-Ross [this was not actually the lineup a lot of the time as they played smaller than this] and Andrew Dudley was on the team but only played in five games and had three FGA, making one) nor the 2004-2005 (Dornekamp and Smith backed up by *** *******, with Oates and McLain on the team but barely playing as true frosh) had good frontcourt depth. 2000-01 was worse than the current situation beyond argument, but the guard play was the engine behind that team so its not a straight apples to apples comparison. 2004-05 was at worse a little bit better than the current situation, Williams was wayyy better than anything we have no off the bench as a true frosh, but at that point his offensive game was disgustingly bad and he had less boards than Jermaine Watson, he was fun to watch play though. 2005-06 had decent front court depth.

Skinner played the Flex. Donahue wants to run.

Doesn't that make going small for longer stretches more palatable?

I suppose. What it really requires is more depth.

But Its a different kind of depth, in that you can get away with say Anderson at the 5 or Odio on the court potentially, if it is actually working.

Can't start the break without the defensive rebound.

Which Donahue said would be the team's biggest improvement this year...

BCEaglesFan {l Wrote}:

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eagle9903 {l Wrote}:

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HJS {l Wrote}:

sweetriverbaines {l Wrote}:Owens looks like a solid athlete, having a football background you'd have to assume he plays bigger than his size. With the ACC adding 3 Big East schools you would have to think that recruits will have to look @ BC as a solid option if you want to play in the # 1 college hoops league.

The best part of his video is his aggressiveness. One of the biggest problems most forwards have his not being aggressive enough. Size and athleticism pretty much don't matter if you can play tough and aggressive the entire time (Danya, Craig, Rashod Kent, Rodman, Duds, Artest, Barkley, etc., etc., etc.). He's got suspect height, good strength and great athleticism. If he focuses on staying relentless and constantly moving towards the basket, there is no reason he can be a high ACC player. I don't think he will be much of a shooter, but I think he will be a high effort, scrappy player. I love those types.

I think Owens is a great compliment to what we have returning next year. However, we still NEED to land a PF in THIS CLASS. Don't give me nonsense about 2014 players who won't be interested in us past April. We needed another big last year. Avoiding it two years in a row is simply sticking your head in the sand.

Not that its any more in response to this post than the billion others calling for big man depth and not that I don't think it would be great to have, but out of the three best Skinner teams in my opinion, neither the 2000-2001 (6'8 Agbai and 6'7 Beerbohm backed up by 6'8 B-Ross [this was not actually the lineup a lot of the time as they played smaller than this] and Andrew Dudley was on the team but only played in five games and had three FGA, making one) nor the 2004-2005 (Dornekamp and Smith backed up by *** *******, with Oates and McLain on the team but barely playing as true frosh) had good frontcourt depth. 2000-01 was worse than the current situation beyond argument, but the guard play was the engine behind that team so its not a straight apples to apples comparison. 2004-05 was at worse a little bit better than the current situation, Williams was wayyy better than anything we have no off the bench as a true frosh, but at that point his offensive game was disgustingly bad and he had less boards than Jermaine Watson, he was fun to watch play though. 2005-06 had decent front court depth.

Skinner played the Flex. Donahue wants to run.

Doesn't that make going small for longer stretches more palatable?

I suppose. What it really requires is more depth.

But Its a different kind of depth, in that you can get away with say Anderson at the 5 or Odio on the court potentially, if it is actually working.

Can't start the break without the defensive rebound.

Which Donahue said would be the team's biggest improvement this year...

Like I said, terrible is easy to improve upon.

eagle9903 {l Wrote}:

twballgame9 {l Wrote}:

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HJS {l Wrote}:

sweetriverbaines {l Wrote}:Owens looks like a solid athlete, having a football background you'd have to assume he plays bigger than his size. With the ACC adding 3 Big East schools you would have to think that recruits will have to look @ BC as a solid option if you want to play in the # 1 college hoops league.

The best part of his video is his aggressiveness. One of the biggest problems most forwards have his not being aggressive enough. Size and athleticism pretty much don't matter if you can play tough and aggressive the entire time (Danya, Craig, Rashod Kent, Rodman, Duds, Artest, Barkley, etc., etc., etc.). He's got suspect height, good strength and great athleticism. If he focuses on staying relentless and constantly moving towards the basket, there is no reason he can be a high ACC player. I don't think he will be much of a shooter, but I think he will be a high effort, scrappy player. I love those types.

I think Owens is a great compliment to what we have returning next year. However, we still NEED to land a PF in THIS CLASS. Don't give me nonsense about 2014 players who won't be interested in us past April. We needed another big last year. Avoiding it two years in a row is simply sticking your head in the sand.

Not that its any more in response to this post than the billion others calling for big man depth and not that I don't think it would be great to have, but out of the three best Skinner teams in my opinion, neither the 2000-2001 (6'8 Agbai and 6'7 Beerbohm backed up by 6'8 B-Ross [this was not actually the lineup a lot of the time as they played smaller than this] and Andrew Dudley was on the team but only played in five games and had three FGA, making one) nor the 2004-2005 (Dornekamp and Smith backed up by *** *******, with Oates and McLain on the team but barely playing as true frosh) had good frontcourt depth. 2000-01 was worse than the current situation beyond argument, but the guard play was the engine behind that team so its not a straight apples to apples comparison. 2004-05 was at worse a little bit better than the current situation, Williams was wayyy better than anything we have no off the bench as a true frosh, but at that point his offensive game was disgustingly bad and he had less boards than Jermaine Watson, he was fun to watch play though. 2005-06 had decent front court depth.

Skinner played the Flex. Donahue wants to run.

Doesn't that make going small for longer stretches more palatable?

I suppose. What it really requires is more depth.

But Its a different kind of depth, in that you can get away with say Anderson at the 5 or Odio on the court potentially, if it is actually working.

I don't think we need another 7-footer, but I don't see a viable ACC 4 or 5 on this roster outside of Clifford and Anderson. I am 100% all on board for us landing a player who is 6'7" or 6'8" and is either a banger or very athletic.

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sweetriverbaines {l Wrote}:Owens looks like a solid athlete, having a football background you'd have to assume he plays bigger than his size. With the ACC adding 3 Big East schools you would have to think that recruits will have to look @ BC as a solid option if you want to play in the # 1 college hoops league.

The best part of his video is his aggressiveness. One of the biggest problems most forwards have his not being aggressive enough. Size and athleticism pretty much don't matter if you can play tough and aggressive the entire time (Danya, Craig, Rashod Kent, Rodman, Duds, Artest, Barkley, etc., etc., etc.). He's got suspect height, good strength and great athleticism. If he focuses on staying relentless and constantly moving towards the basket, there is no reason he can be a high ACC player. I don't think he will be much of a shooter, but I think he will be a high effort, scrappy player. I love those types.

I think Owens is a great compliment to what we have returning next year. However, we still NEED to land a PF in THIS CLASS. Don't give me nonsense about 2014 players who won't be interested in us past April. We needed another big last year. Avoiding it two years in a row is simply sticking your head in the sand.

Not that its any more in response to this post than the billion others calling for big man depth and not that I don't think it would be great to have, but out of the three best Skinner teams in my opinion, neither the 2000-2001 (6'8 Agbai and 6'7 Beerbohm backed up by 6'8 B-Ross [this was not actually the lineup a lot of the time as they played smaller than this] and Andrew Dudley was on the team but only played in five games and had three FGA, making one) nor the 2004-2005 (Dornekamp and Smith backed up by *** *******, with Oates and McLain on the team but barely playing as true frosh) had good frontcourt depth. 2000-01 was worse than the current situation beyond argument, but the guard play was the engine behind that team so its not a straight apples to apples comparison. 2004-05 was at worse a little bit better than the current situation, Williams was wayyy better than anything we have no off the bench as a true frosh, but at that point his offensive game was disgustingly bad and he had less boards than Jermaine Watson, he was fun to watch play though. 2005-06 had decent front court depth.

Skinner played the Flex. Donahue wants to run.

Doesn't that make going small for longer stretches more palatable?

I suppose. What it really requires is more depth.

But Its a different kind of depth, in that you can get away with say Anderson at the 5 or Odio on the court potentially, if it is actually working.

Can't start the break without the defensive rebound.

Which Donahue said would be the team's biggest improvement this year...

And The Don said, "Let there be rebounding," and there was rebounding. And The Don saw the rebounding, and it was good.

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HJS {l Wrote}:

sweetriverbaines {l Wrote}:Owens looks like a solid athlete, having a football background you'd have to assume he plays bigger than his size. With the ACC adding 3 Big East schools you would have to think that recruits will have to look @ BC as a solid option if you want to play in the # 1 college hoops league.

The best part of his video is his aggressiveness. One of the biggest problems most forwards have his not being aggressive enough. Size and athleticism pretty much don't matter if you can play tough and aggressive the entire time (Danya, Craig, Rashod Kent, Rodman, Duds, Artest, Barkley, etc., etc., etc.). He's got suspect height, good strength and great athleticism. If he focuses on staying relentless and constantly moving towards the basket, there is no reason he can be a high ACC player. I don't think he will be much of a shooter, but I think he will be a high effort, scrappy player. I love those types.

I think Owens is a great compliment to what we have returning next year. However, we still NEED to land a PF in THIS CLASS. Don't give me nonsense about 2014 players who won't be interested in us past April. We needed another big last year. Avoiding it two years in a row is simply sticking your head in the sand.

Not that its any more in response to this post than the billion others calling for big man depth and not that I don't think it would be great to have, but out of the three best Skinner teams in my opinion, neither the 2000-2001 (6'8 Agbai and 6'7 Beerbohm backed up by 6'8 B-Ross [this was not actually the lineup a lot of the time as they played smaller than this] and Andrew Dudley was on the team but only played in five games and had three FGA, making one) nor the 2004-2005 (Dornekamp and Smith backed up by *** *******, with Oates and McLain on the team but barely playing as true frosh) had good frontcourt depth. 2000-01 was worse than the current situation beyond argument, but the guard play was the engine behind that team so its not a straight apples to apples comparison. 2004-05 was at worse a little bit better than the current situation, Williams was wayyy better than anything we have no off the bench as a true frosh, but at that point his offensive game was disgustingly bad and he had less boards than Jermaine Watson, he was fun to watch play though. 2005-06 had decent front court depth.

Skinner played the Flex. Donahue wants to run.

Doesn't that make going small for longer stretches more palatable?

I suppose. What it really requires is more depth.

But Its a different kind of depth, in that you can get away with say Anderson at the 5 or Odio on the court potentially, if it is actually working.

I don't think we need another 7-footer, but I don't see a viable ACC 4 or 5 on this roster outside of Clifford and Anderson. I am 100% all on board for us landing a player who is 6'7" or 6'8" and is either a banger or very athletic.

I agree it would be better to have such a player, I just disagree a lot that it is imperative to the tune of we will not go .500 under any circumstances if we don't have an "ACC caliber 4 or 5" (seemingly defined as an additional starter for some reason), which seems to be the implication by some - not necessarily you - posters on here.

I just think if the Don wants to run, he needs at least one more PF, be it a Raji type or a more classic rebounder. You can go small, but you still need guys at the 4 and 5 and the more you run, the more Clifford and Anderson need rest. And by going small, you can't just move Heckmann to the 4. I am also taking a wait and see approach on Odio - if he wants to use those hops to go bang on the boards for 10 mins a game with some aggressiveness, that works. In the meantime, they should be looking for someone for next season.