2021 Coaching Candidate Thread (this time for reals)

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Re: 2021 Coaching Candidate Thread (this time for reals)

Postby innocentbystander on Fri Mar 12, 2021 10:40 am

TobaccoRoadEagle {l Wrote}:i, for one, understand shitting on the basketball program. hell, calling it a program is an insult to the word "program"

people that feel it's necessary to shit on hafley for his "only 6-6" year against more conference teams than any coach has every played seems a bit wah wah.

so, nospacebutplentyofcondescention, i am a part of "we"


Fair enough.

The 2020 season was (without a doubt) the hardest schedule that BC has faced since 1995. I have said that on this board, repeatedly. I will go on record to say that I was the FIRST to say that about the 2020 schedule. I'll go one further and say that 10 ACC games in a single season might even be EQUAL to the level of difficult of having Ohio State, Michigan, Michigan State, and Notre Dame all out-of-conference. I expected 5-6. They went 6-5. And I was glad for Hafley and pleased with the results. He did well. Good job!

Homerun? Meh. As the Zen master said, "We'll see."
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Re: 2021 Coaching Candidate Thread (this time for reals)

Postby Los on Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:02 am

HJS {l Wrote}:https://twitter.com/TheFieldOf68/status/1370375017305759746

Did he really just call Leonard Hamilton the GOAT?
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Re: 2021 Coaching Candidate Thread (this time for reals)

Postby OCs_Inner_Eagle on Fri Mar 12, 2021 3:56 pm

I got curious about Lonergan after the discussion above. I had always thought that he's (1) abusive, and (2) racist (see Jeremy Lin allegation). I still think that's the case, but Lonergan also seems to have been a whistleblower against Patrick Nero, the AD while Lonergan was there.

"Deadspin obtained a copy of the video, plus screenshots from social media of Nero captured at a bar near the GW campus. The visual evidence shows him making obscene gestures, straddling a then-very recent GW graduate (Class of 2017), and generally behaving in a way no school would tolerate for one of its most visible and highest-paid officials. And it finally provided the kill shot that Lonergan’s supporters had been dreaming of."
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Re: 2021 Coaching Candidate Thread (this time for reals)

Postby Dick Rosenthal on Fri Mar 12, 2021 10:44 pm

Lonergan is a great coach. What he did at GW was remarkable. He was also abusive and used racial invective. Lonergan’s biggest problem is he was born too late. If he had coached any time between the 50s and the late 90s, he’d probably be a beloved icon on his way to the HoF like Adolph Rupp, Bobby Knight, or any number of screamers and yellers who coached in that era.

Anyway, because of the societal shift that we have undergone he is now unemployable at a college level. I am surprised he has not made his way to Europe where they are not as sensitive about such behavior.
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Re: 2021 Coaching Candidate Thread (this time for reals)

Postby HJS on Sat Mar 13, 2021 12:04 am

Dick Rosenthal {l Wrote}:Anyway, because of the societal shift that we have undergone he is now unemployable at a college level. I am surprised he has not made his way to Europe where they are not as sensitive about such behavior.

Doug Wojcik is a top assistant for Izzo at MSU, Kevin Wilson has been a coordinator at OSU from Meyer to HCRD. I’m surprised Lonergan hasn’t tried rehabbing his career on someone else’s bench.
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Re: 2021 Coaching Candidate Thread (this time for reals)

Postby Corporal Funishment on Sat Mar 13, 2021 11:36 am

The six teams Jeff Hafley beat had a combined record of 18-41.

Those teams were:
Duke 2-9
Texas State 2-10
Pitt 6-5
GT 3-7
Syracuse 1-10
Lousiville 4-7

By the way, I learned just now looking this up that Babers didn't get fired. How did that happen?
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Re: 2021 Coaching Candidate Thread (this time for reals)

Postby twballgame9 on Sat Mar 13, 2021 12:17 pm

Corporal Funishment {l Wrote}:The six teams Jeff Hafley beat had a combined record of 18-41.

Those teams were:
Duke 2-9
Texas State 2-10
Pitt 6-5
GT 3-7
Syracuse 1-10
Lousiville 4-7

By the way, I learned just now looking this up that Babers didn't get fired. How did that happen?


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Re: 2021 Coaching Candidate Thread (this time for reals)

Postby hansen on Sat Mar 13, 2021 4:27 pm

Corporal Funishment {l Wrote}:The six teams Jeff Hafley beat had a combined record of 18-41.

Those teams were:
Duke 2-9
Texas State 2-10
Pitt 6-5
GT 3-7
Syracuse 1-10
Lousiville 4-7

By the way, I learned just now looking this up that Babers didn't get fired. How did that happen?


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Re: 2021 Coaching Candidate Thread (this time for reals)

Postby BCEagles25 on Sat Mar 13, 2021 6:07 pm

twballgame9 {l Wrote}:
Corporal Funishment {l Wrote}:The six teams Jeff Hafley beat had a combined record of 18-41.

Those teams were:
Duke 2-9
Texas State 2-10
Pitt 6-5
GT 3-7
Syracuse 1-10
Lousiville 4-7

By the way, I learned just now looking this up that Babers didn't get fired. How did that happen?


Schtick.


It’s a worthy point though. The fact they even beat Pitt and Texas State were both miracles
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Re: 2021 Coaching Candidate Thread (this time for reals)

Postby hansen on Sat Mar 13, 2021 6:20 pm

BCEagles25 {l Wrote}:
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:
Corporal Funishment {l Wrote}:The six teams Jeff Hafley beat had a combined record of 18-41.

Those teams were:
Duke 2-9
Texas State 2-10
Pitt 6-5
GT 3-7
Syracuse 1-10
Lousiville 4-7

By the way, I learned just now looking this up that Babers didn't get fired. How did that happen?


Schtick.


It’s a worthy point though. The fact they even beat Pitt and Texas State were both miracles


I’m sure no spring ball to install the brand new, rapidly different offense didn’t have any effect whatsoever.
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Re: 2021 Coaching Candidate Thread (this time for reals)

Postby eepstein0 on Sat Mar 13, 2021 7:15 pm

twballgame9 {l Wrote}:
Corporal Funishment {l Wrote}:The six teams Jeff Hafley beat had a combined record of 18-41.

Those teams were:
Duke 2-9
Texas State 2-10
Pitt 6-5
GT 3-7
Syracuse 1-10
Lousiville 4-7

By the way, I learned just now looking this up that Babers didn't get fired. How did that happen?


Schtick.


I don’t know why people continue to take the bait.
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Re: 2021 Coaching Candidate Thread (this time for reals)

Postby twballgame9 on Sat Mar 13, 2021 7:29 pm

eepstein0 {l Wrote}:
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:
Corporal Funishment {l Wrote}:The six teams Jeff Hafley beat had a combined record of 18-41.

Those teams were:
Duke 2-9
Texas State 2-10
Pitt 6-5
GT 3-7
Syracuse 1-10
Lousiville 4-7

By the way, I learned just now looking this up that Babers didn't get fired. How did that happen?


Schtick.


I don’t know why people continue to take the bait.


He's running three or four separate parody schticks, so maybe some people think he's actually become a persona.
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Re: 2021 Coaching Candidate Thread (this time for reals)

Postby Corporal Funishment on Sun Mar 14, 2021 9:48 am

hansen {l Wrote}:
BCEagles25 {l Wrote}:
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:
Corporal Funishment {l Wrote}:The six teams Jeff Hafley beat had a combined record of 18-41.

Those teams were:
Duke 2-9
Texas State 2-10
Pitt 6-5
GT 3-7
Syracuse 1-10
Lousiville 4-7

By the way, I learned just now looking this up that Babers didn't get fired. How did that happen?


Schtick.


It’s a worthy point though. The fact they even beat Pitt and Texas State were both miracles


I’m sure no spring ball to install the brand new, rapidly different offense didn’t have any effect whatsoever.



Fascinatingly, the six teams Steve Addazio beat in 2019 had a combined record of 32-42, or a winning percentage of 44.4%. This compares quite favorably to the winning percentage of 30.5% accumulated by the six teams Jeff Hafley beat.

Those teams were:
VT: 8-5
Richmond: 5-7
Rutgers: 2-10
NC State: 4-8
Syracuse: 5-7
Pitt: 8-5

And this was considered fireable!
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Re: 2021 Coaching Candidate Thread (this time for reals)

Postby hawaiirob on Sun Mar 14, 2021 10:38 am

There is a 100% chance the new bball coach will be Black.
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Re: 2021 Coaching Candidate Thread (this time for reals)

Postby Dick Rosenthal on Sun Mar 14, 2021 3:41 pm

hawaiirob {l Wrote}:There is a 100% chance the new bball coach will be Black.


The fact that Schmidt isn’t the top candidate outside of the home run long shots is a joke and the sign of a decaying society where merit means nothing.
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Re: 2021 Coaching Candidate Thread (this time for reals)

Postby HJS on Sun Mar 14, 2021 4:29 pm

Dick Rosenthal {l Wrote}:
hawaiirob {l Wrote}:There is a 100% chance the new bball coach will be Black.


The fact that Schmidt isn’t the top candidate outside of the home run long shots is a joke and the sign of a decaying society where merit means nothing.

Hey racist, are you implying that there is a better way to combat racism other than reverse racism?
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Re: 2021 Coaching Candidate Thread (this time for reals)

Postby BC923 on Sun Mar 14, 2021 4:42 pm

Isn’t Schmidt not interested in the job (this year at least?)
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Re: 2021 Coaching Candidate Thread (this time for reals)

Postby Corporal Funishment on Sun Mar 14, 2021 5:12 pm

Dick Rosenthal {l Wrote}:
hawaiirob {l Wrote}:There is a 100% chance the new bball coach will be Black.


The fact that Schmidt isn’t the top candidate outside of the home run long shots is a joke and the sign of a decaying society where merit means nothing.


If Krafty Pat slips up at the news conference and says something like "we were determined to hire a black candidate," it would make an interesting case study if Spinelli tried to sue the school into oblivion. It's probably not quite the fact pattern that's a winner, but it's in the ballpark.
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Re: 2021 Coaching Candidate Thread (this time for reals)

Postby Shoreagle on Sun Mar 14, 2021 6:41 pm

Dick Rosenthal {l Wrote}:
hawaiirob {l Wrote}:There is a 100% chance the new bball coach will be Black.


The fact that Schmidt isn’t the top candidate outside of the home run long shots is a joke and the sign of a decaying society where merit means nothing.

His team has some punks on it but maybe we need that attitude
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Re: 2021 Coaching Candidate Thread (this time for reals)

Postby 2001Eagle on Sun Mar 14, 2021 6:50 pm

Corporal Funishment {l Wrote}:
Dick Rosenthal {l Wrote}:
hawaiirob {l Wrote}:There is a 100% chance the new bball coach will be Black.


The fact that Schmidt isn’t the top candidate outside of the home run long shots is a joke and the sign of a decaying society where merit means nothing.


If Krafty Pat slips up at the news conference and says something like "we were determined to hire a black candidate," it would make an interesting case study if Spinelli tried to sue the school into oblivion. It's probably not quite the fact pattern that's a winner, but it's in the ballpark.


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Re: 2021 Coaching Candidate Thread (this time for reals)

Postby twballgame9 on Sun Mar 14, 2021 8:03 pm

Still a shtick
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Re: 2021 Coaching Candidate Thread (this time for reals)

Postby Dick Rosenthal on Sun Mar 14, 2021 8:42 pm

Shoreagle {l Wrote}:
Dick Rosenthal {l Wrote}:
hawaiirob {l Wrote}:There is a 100% chance the new bball coach will be Black.


The fact that Schmidt isn’t the top candidate outside of the home run long shots is a joke and the sign of a decaying society where merit means nothing.

His team has some punks on it but maybe we need that attitude


He has one guy who is an asshole, but I don’t think he is a punk as he is perfectly content to mix it up with much bigger opponents. He also happens to be the best guard in the A 10. The rest of the team is tough but doesn’t start anything. The shit with Duquesne was the one guy. SLU was entirely on SLU and today was 95 percent on VCU which is why they got the double technical. LSU Twitter is angry about drawing them, which says something.
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Re: 2021 Coaching Candidate Thread (this time for reals)

Postby thebs19 on Mon Mar 15, 2021 8:09 am

Shrewsberry off the board to PSU.
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Re: 2021 Coaching Candidate Thread (this time for reals)

Postby thebs19 on Mon Mar 15, 2021 8:14 am

BC923 {l Wrote}:Isn’t Schmidt not interested in the job (this year at least?)


I don't think this has been confirmed; I guessed logically it would be weird timing for him unless BC is his absolute dream job (and it doesn't seem that way given the last 2 searches); his team returns everyone next year and they will now be coming off a conference reg. season and tournament championship/9 seed (highest seed in tournament since the it went to 64 teams I believe). They'll be a fringe preseason Top 25 team next year. But then will graduate literally everyone (9 juniors on roster). Seems like that is the time to make the jump, where he'll have his pick of any job.
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Re: 2021 Coaching Candidate Thread (this time for reals)

Postby HJS on Mon Mar 15, 2021 9:09 am

thebs19 {l Wrote}:Shrewsberry off the board to PSU.

Pretty good hire for a crap job. Unfortunately, some sort of weird prerequisite prevented us from ever considering him given that he’s never been a head coach. Interesting that a BigTen program didn’t have similar thresholds.

So... we are officially the best available job (until better programs start firing coaches we’d happily have).
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Re: 2021 Coaching Candidate Thread (this time for reals)

Postby eepstein0 on Mon Mar 15, 2021 11:14 am

Archie Miller would be a great option
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Re: 2021 Coaching Candidate Thread (this time for reals)

Postby Onyx Blackman on Mon Mar 15, 2021 11:35 am

I'm concerned about Archie's skin color.
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Re: 2021 Coaching Candidate Thread (this time for reals)

Postby Bunratty on Mon Mar 15, 2021 11:42 am

eepstein0 {l Wrote}:Archie Miller would be a great option

Why? He couldn't over .500 in conference in 4 years at Indiana.
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Re: 2021 Coaching Candidate Thread (this time for reals)

Postby HJS on Mon Mar 15, 2021 12:18 pm

Bunratty {l Wrote}:
eepstein0 {l Wrote}:Archie Miller would be a great option

Why? He couldn't over .500 in conference in 4 years at Indiana.

There is a reason he was hired at Indiana and there is a reason why Indiana has been unsuccessfully streaming through coaches since the General. I posted this earlier in the thread, but still feels it applies.
But, this board has yet to pinpoint a single coach who everyone would be excited for. BB is a weird sport and certain coaches do well everywhere and others only excel when they fit the program. Some feel that a coach losing at a school with endless resources (or in the pros) means they can’t do it at BC. However, I think some of these coaches simply are adept at doing more with less. Accordingly, I’d be excited for guys like Anthony Grant or Archie Miller or Shaka Smart or John Groce or Mike Hopkins.
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Re: 2021 Coaching Candidate Thread (this time for reals)

Postby innocentbystander on Mon Mar 15, 2021 12:20 pm

HJS {l Wrote}:
Bunratty {l Wrote}:
eepstein0 {l Wrote}:Archie Miller would be a great option

Why? He couldn't over .500 in conference in 4 years at Indiana.

There is a reason he was hired at Indiana and there is a reason why Indiana has been unsuccessfully streaming through coaches since the General. I posted this earlier in the thread, but still feels it applies.
But, this board has yet to pinpoint a single coach who everyone would be excited for. BB is a weird sport and certain coaches do well everywhere and others only excel when they fit the program. Some feel that a coach losing at a school with endless resources (or in the pros) means they can’t do it at BC. However, I think some of these coaches simply are adept at doing more with less. Accordingly, I’d be excited for guys like Anthony Grant or Archie Miller or Shaka Smart or John Groce or Mike Hopkins.


Welp, BC got a Grant. Just not Anthony Grant.
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