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DaveSpeed {l Wrote}:According to Tharpe, on his rivals committment article, Providence has been recruiting him the longest and the hardest. Maybe Al could have taken a time out from his pick up game and picked up the phone to see how Tharpe was doing once in a while. What a fucking shame!

pick6pedro {l Wrote}:This is part of the reason Keno is #1 on my replacement list (see poll on Scott Brown Tuesday).

BCEagles25 {l Wrote}:I'm liking Keno Davis more and more. But there's no denying his Big East failure this year. His team was better than how they played. Players like Marshon Brooks and Sharaud Curry and not to mention an NBA future star in Jamine Peterson shold've done better than 12-19. I smell a good recruiter-bad in game coach. That's why I like Bill Coen.

eepstein0 {l Wrote}:

BCEagles25 {l Wrote}:I'm liking Keno Davis more and more. But there's no denying his Big East failure this year. His team was better than how they played. Players like Marshon Brooks and Sharaud Curry and not to mention an NBA future star in Jamine Peterson shold've done better than 12-19. I smell a good recruiter-bad in game coach. That's why I like Bill Coen.

Good recruiter awful coach...hmm who does that remind me of?

eepstein0 {l Wrote}:

BCEagles25 {l Wrote}:I'm liking Keno Davis more and more. But there's no denying his Big East failure this year. His team was better than how they played. Players like Marshon Brooks and Sharaud Curry and not to mention an NBA future star in Jamine Peterson shold've done better than 12-19. I smell a good recruiter-bad in game coach. That's why I like Bill Coen.

Good recruiter awful coach...hmm who does that remind me of?

eepstein0 {l Wrote}:

BCEagles25 {l Wrote}:I'm liking Keno Davis more and more. But there's no denying his Big East failure this year. His team was better than how they played. Players like Marshon Brooks and Sharaud Curry and not to mention an NBA future star in Jamine Peterson shold've done better than 12-19. I smell a good recruiter-bad in game coach. That's why I like Bill Coen.

Good recruiter awful coach...hmm who does that remind me of?

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eepstein0 {l Wrote}:

BCEagles25 {l Wrote}:I'm liking Keno Davis more and more. But there's no denying his Big East failure this year. His team was better than how they played. Players like Marshon Brooks and Sharaud Curry and not to mention an NBA future star in Jamine Peterson shold've done better than 12-19. I smell a good recruiter-bad in game coach. That's why I like Bill Coen.

Good recruiter awful coach...hmm who does that remind me of?

Paul Hewitt?

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eepstein0 {l Wrote}:

BCEagles25 {l Wrote}:I'm liking Keno Davis more and more. But there's no denying his Big East failure this year. His team was better than how they played. Players like Marshon Brooks and Sharaud Curry and not to mention an NBA future star in Jamine Peterson shold've done better than 12-19. I smell a good recruiter-bad in game coach. That's why I like Bill Coen.

Good recruiter awful coach...hmm who does that remind me of?

Paul Hewitt?

+1

BCEagles25 {l Wrote}:I'm liking Keno Davis more and more. But there's no denying his Big East failure this year. His team was better than how they played. Players like Marshon Brooks and Sharaud Curry and not to mention an NBA future star in Jamine Peterson shold've done better than 12-19. I smell a good recruiter-bad in game coach. That's why I like Bill Coen.

eepstein0 {l Wrote}:

BC923 {l Wrote}:

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BCEagles25 {l Wrote}:I'm liking Keno Davis more and more. But there's no denying his Big East failure this year. His team was better than how they played. Players like Marshon Brooks and Sharaud Curry and not to mention an NBA future star in Jamine Peterson shold've done better than 12-19. I smell a good recruiter-bad in game coach. That's why I like Bill Coen.

Good recruiter awful coach...hmm who does that remind me of?

Paul Hewitt?

+1

Just for the record, it took Oklahoma State lying down to die to get Hewitt into the second round.

I'd also like to nominate Oliver Purnell for this contest.

DaveSpeed {l Wrote}:

BCEagles25 {l Wrote}:I'm liking Keno Davis more and more. But there's no denying his Big East failure this year. His team was better than how they played. Players like Marshon Brooks and Sharaud Curry and not to mention an NBA future star in Jamine Peterson shold've done better than 12-19. I smell a good recruiter-bad in game coach. That's why I like Bill Coen.

If BC does ever hire Bill Coen then he's going to have a lot of catching up to do because Keno is getting the Friars some great local pub.

http://www.friarbasketball.net/

Art Vandelay {l Wrote}:I'll take the good recruiter awful coaches listed here over Al any day. One out of two is better than nothing. Also, I will say in Hewitt's defense, that while he may not be the best X and O guy, at least during a game I am certain he has a pulse. He is up yelling, talking to guys as they come off the floor, pulling them and yelling at them when they do something stupid. I saw it live throughout the ACC tourney and again from what I could see on TV this weekend. I don't know what he is saying of course, but he at least appears to be trying to coach during the game.

b0mberMan {l Wrote}:

Art Vandelay {l Wrote}:I'll take the good recruiter awful coaches listed here over Al any day. One out of two is better than nothing. Also, I will say in Hewitt's defense, that while he may not be the best X and O guy, at least during a game I am certain he has a pulse. He is up yelling, talking to guys as they come off the floor, pulling them and yelling at them when they do something stupid. I saw it live throughout the ACC tourney and again from what I could see on TV this weekend. I don't know what he is saying of course, but he at least appears to be trying to coach during the game.

Style over substance, then?

Art Vandelay {l Wrote}:I'll take the good recruiter awful coaches listed here over Al any day. One out of two is better than nothing.

pick6pedro {l Wrote}:

Art Vandelay {l Wrote}:I'll take the good recruiter awful coaches listed here over Al any day. One out of two is better than nothing.

Again, I just still don't get comments like this. To what do you attribute Al's successes?

Art Vandelay {l Wrote}:

pick6pedro {l Wrote}:

Art Vandelay {l Wrote}:I'll take the good recruiter awful coaches listed here over Al any day. One out of two is better than nothing.

Again, I just still don't get comments like this. To what do you attribute Al's successes?

I'm living in the now, not the past. The last three years have been terrible. Apparently you want to give a lifetime pass for all of his "successes", which were fairly limited at that.

Paul Hewitt is a better recruiter and I don't think I've ever heard anyone debate that very specific point.
Al Skinner is a lousy game coach and I don't think too many people have debated that. So even if you assume Paul Hewitt is a lousy game coach as well doesn't that still put him a step above Al?

Please note I am not advocating they get Paul Hewitt to take over BC, but if given a choice of the two I'll take Hewitt in a heartbeat.

pick6pedro {l Wrote}:

Art Vandelay {l Wrote}:I'll take the good recruiter awful coaches listed here over Al any day. One out of two is better than nothing.

Again, I just still don't get comments like this. To what do you attribute Al's successes?

pick6pedro {l Wrote}:

Art Vandelay {l Wrote}:

pick6pedro {l Wrote}:

Art Vandelay {l Wrote}:I'll take the good recruiter awful coaches listed here over Al any day. One out of two is better than nothing.

Again, I just still don't get comments like this. To what do you attribute Al's successes?

I'm living in the now, not the past. The last three years have been terrible. Apparently you want to give a lifetime pass for all of his "successes", which were fairly limited at that.

Paul Hewitt is a better recruiter and I don't think I've ever heard anyone debate that very specific point.
Al Skinner is a lousy game coach and I don't think too many people have debated that. So even if you assume Paul Hewitt is a lousy game coach as well doesn't that still put him a step above Al?

Please note I am not advocating they get Paul Hewitt to take over BC, but if given a choice of the two I'll take Hewitt in a heartbeat.

So 4 years is the past, but 3 is not? Check. Fail to answer the question? Check. Make assumptions about me and my views? Check.

Art Vandelay {l Wrote}:19-29 in conference over three seasons. 2 out of the last three sub .500 overall (and with the OOC schedule being what it is that is not that easy to do). I won't even debate the "successes" with you

b0mberMan {l Wrote}:

Art Vandelay {l Wrote}:19-29 in conference over three seasons. 2 out of the last three sub .500 overall (and with the OOC schedule being what it is that is not that easy to do). I won't even debate the "successes" with you

GT and Great Recruiter/Master Motivator Paul Hewitt: 16-32 in conference over the last two seasons with 2 out of the last 3 sub .500. One 2nd round exit from the tourney and a host of 4 and 5 star recruits is what separates him from Al over those three seasons. With his recruiting and apparently coaching advantage, I'd expect alot more from him.

I'm not saying be happy with Al and happy with our basketball team's results. I'm saying wishing you could have a guy like Paul Hewitt is retarded.

Art Vandelay {l Wrote}:

b0mberMan {l Wrote}:

Art Vandelay {l Wrote}:19-29 in conference over three seasons. 2 out of the last three sub .500 overall (and with the OOC schedule being what it is that is not that easy to do). I won't even debate the "successes" with you

GT and Great Recruiter/Master Motivator Paul Hewitt: 16-32 in conference over the last two seasons with 2 out of the last 3 sub .500. One 2nd round exit from the tourney and a host of 4 and 5 star recruits is what separates him from Al over those three seasons. With his recruiting and apparently coaching advantage, I'd expect alot more from him.

I'm not saying be happy with Al and happy with our basketball team's results. I'm saying wishing you could have a guy like Paul Hewitt is retarded.

I'm not wishing for Paul Hewitt. I am saying if given a one for one choice between him and Al I'd take Hewitt.

What would you rather have had this season? The ability to watch a team make the NCAA tournament, make the finals of the ACCT and be a generally exciting, if inconsistent, team to watch? You also know you have a pretty good chance of him landing top recruits going forward. Again, Hewitt is not my dream coach, but I would take him over Al.

b0mberMan {l Wrote}:

Art Vandelay {l Wrote}:

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Art Vandelay {l Wrote}:19-29 in conference over three seasons. 2 out of the last three sub .500 overall (and with the OOC schedule being what it is that is not that easy to do). I won't even debate the "successes" with you

GT and Great Recruiter/Master Motivator Paul Hewitt: 16-32 in conference over the last two seasons with 2 out of the last 3 sub .500. One 2nd round exit from the tourney and a host of 4 and 5 star recruits is what separates him from Al over those three seasons. With his recruiting and apparently coaching advantage, I'd expect alot more from him.

I'm not saying be happy with Al and happy with our basketball team's results. I'm saying wishing you could have a guy like Paul Hewitt is retarded.

I'm not wishing for Paul Hewitt. I am saying if given a one for one choice between him and Al I'd take Hewitt.

What would you rather have had this season? The ability to watch a team make the NCAA tournament, make the finals of the ACCT and be a generally exciting, if inconsistent, team to watch? You also know you have a pretty good chance of him landing top recruits going forward. Again, Hewitt is not my dream coach, but I would take him over Al.

Like I said, style over substance.

Art Vandelay {l Wrote}:

b0mberMan {l Wrote}:

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b0mberMan {l Wrote}:

Art Vandelay {l Wrote}:19-29 in conference over three seasons. 2 out of the last three sub .500 overall (and with the OOC schedule being what it is that is not that easy to do). I won't even debate the "successes" with you

GT and Great Recruiter/Master Motivator Paul Hewitt: 16-32 in conference over the last two seasons with 2 out of the last 3 sub .500. One 2nd round exit from the tourney and a host of 4 and 5 star recruits is what separates him from Al over those three seasons. With his recruiting and apparently coaching advantage, I'd expect alot more from him.

I'm not saying be happy with Al and happy with our basketball team's results. I'm saying wishing you could have a guy like Paul Hewitt is retarded.

I'm not wishing for Paul Hewitt. I am saying if given a one for one choice between him and Al I'd take Hewitt.

What would you rather have had this season? The ability to watch a team make the NCAA tournament, make the finals of the ACCT and be a generally exciting, if inconsistent, team to watch? You also know you have a pretty good chance of him landing top recruits going forward. Again, Hewitt is not my dream coach, but I would take him over Al.

Like I said, style over substance.

Where is the substance with Al?

b0mberMan {l Wrote}:

Art Vandelay {l Wrote}:

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Art Vandelay {l Wrote}:

b0mberMan {l Wrote}:

Art Vandelay {l Wrote}:19-29 in conference over three seasons. 2 out of the last three sub .500 overall (and with the OOC schedule being what it is that is not that easy to do). I won't even debate the "successes" with you

GT and Great Recruiter/Master Motivator Paul Hewitt: 16-32 in conference over the last two seasons with 2 out of the last 3 sub .500. One 2nd round exit from the tourney and a host of 4 and 5 star recruits is what separates him from Al over those three seasons. With his recruiting and apparently coaching advantage, I'd expect alot more from him.

I'm not saying be happy with Al and happy with our basketball team's results. I'm saying wishing you could have a guy like Paul Hewitt is retarded.

I'm not wishing for Paul Hewitt. I am saying if given a one for one choice between him and Al I'd take Hewitt.

What would you rather have had this season? The ability to watch a team make the NCAA tournament, make the finals of the ACCT and be a generally exciting, if inconsistent, team to watch? You also know you have a pretty good chance of him landing top recruits going forward. Again, Hewitt is not my dream coach, but I would take him over Al.

Like I said, style over substance.

Where is the substance with Al?

Paul Hewitt kills us in recruiting by all the stars/objectivity measures yet he cannot do anything with that program. Where's the substance in Hewitt?

Art Vandelay {l Wrote}:Ok first of all Hewitt has been to a final four, but that's not the point.

I'm not saying there is any sybstance with that program, but you keep throwing out a cute one liner of style over substance. If hewitt has style and neither have substance, that is style over nothing.

Art Vandelay {l Wrote}:
Try to stay with me here. The last three are the most recent three and that is what I care about. Yesterday is in the past so is ten years ago. Which do you base a decision on?

Art Vandelay {l Wrote}:19-29 in conference over three seasons. 2 out of the last three sub .500 overall (and with the OOC schedule being what it is that is not that easy to do). I won't even debate the "successes" with you, becuase I don't care. I care about what has happened recently.

Art Vandelay {l Wrote}:Learn to read by the way. I said "even if you assume" - I did not say that was your assumption I was stipulating a point for sake of the argument.