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screagle {l Wrote}:i love katz, but he needs to quit the al lovefest already...

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/blog/_/name/katz_andy/id/5046760/when-there-culpability-ads

HJS {l Wrote}:He's right. Why does GDF not take any blame for the hiring and firing of Jags... for the terrible Gameday atmosphere... for the dramatic fall-off in attendance in both BB and FB... for every single coach who has ever worked for him hate him with every fire of their being (save Spaz)??? Also, it is incredibly poor to be bad-mouthing Al in the press. The man did a good job here for 13 years. There is no reason to throw his entire career under the bus (ala OJ) just because you didn't like the way he marketed the program. Isn't that the AD's job by the way? Well, when no one shows up for Skinner-Lite, whose to blame asshole?

eepstein0 {l Wrote}:It's amazing how national guys who have so much access don't have a fucking clue. Tone it down Andy.

HJS {l Wrote}:

eepstein0 {l Wrote}:It's amazing how national guys who have so much access don't have a fucking clue. Tone it down Andy.

Maybe, since he has so much access, people should be reconsidering their positions and asking whether he is right. Some on this board are like battered wives when it comes to GDF... "You guys don't know him like I do... he really is a great man... he really does have out best interest in mind... he is just misunderstood... I know what it looks like from the outside, but if you could only see things through my eyes... look, we're not perfect... he's doing the best he can given all the faults and problems we lay at his feet."

Honestly... people here should be ashamed that GDF represents this school.

eepstein0 {l Wrote}:

HJS {l Wrote}:

eepstein0 {l Wrote}:It's amazing how national guys who have so much access don't have a fucking clue. Tone it down Andy.

Maybe, since he has so much access, people should be reconsidering their positions and asking whether he is right. Some on this board are like battered wives when it comes to GDF... "You guys don't know him like I do... he really is a great man... he really does have out best interest in mind... he is just misunderstood... I know what it looks like from the outside, but if you could only see things through my eyes... look, we're not perfect... he's doing the best he can given all the faults and problems we lay at his feet."

Honestly... people here should be ashamed that GDF represents this school.

I hate Gene as our AD, he's as much of the problem as the coaching around here, we're in agreement. Although true, you drive your agenda so hard it puts a lot of people off. At least I gave Skinner credit last year when it was due.

b0mberMan {l Wrote}:I've said this before, but part of what made Katz a great reporter for BC hoops is that he had access inside the program that it seemed our local beat guys didn't have. Now, we're all finding out who was giving him that access: Skinner or a Skinner staffer (my guess would be Duke since he's had the access for awhile).

That's all this is.

ATLeagle {l Wrote}:Katz was close with the Skinner staff but I bet he will continue to be close to whoever takes over. He's been going to BC games for 35 years and any time he is home he stops by BC. He's really a BC fan, although he cannot really say so given his job.

ATLeagle {l Wrote}:Katz was close with the Skinner staff but I bet he will continue to be close to whoever takes over. He's been going to BC games for 35 years and any time he is home he stops by BC. He's really a BC fan, although he cannot really say so given his job.

eepstein0 {l Wrote}:

ATLeagle {l Wrote}:Katz was close with the Skinner staff but I bet he will continue to be close to whoever takes over. He's been going to BC games for 35 years and any time he is home he stops by BC. He's really a BC fan, although he cannot really say so given his job.

I like Katz, but I hate his agenda about as much as I hate HJS's agenda.

Cadillac90 {l Wrote}:

eepstein0 {l Wrote}:

ATLeagle {l Wrote}:Katz was close with the Skinner staff but I bet he will continue to be close to whoever takes over. He's been going to BC games for 35 years and any time he is home he stops by BC. He's really a BC fan, although he cannot really say so given his job.

I like Katz, but I hate his agenda about as much as I hate HJS's agenda.

What agenda? He had his own personal observations of Skinner and thought the guy got a raw deal. He now is writing about it, that is his job.

Cadillac90 {l Wrote}:

eepstein0 {l Wrote}:

ATLeagle {l Wrote}:Katz was close with the Skinner staff but I bet he will continue to be close to whoever takes over. He's been going to BC games for 35 years and any time he is home he stops by BC. He's really a BC fan, although he cannot really say so given his job.

I like Katz, but I hate his agenda about as much as I hate HJS's agenda.

What agenda? He had his own personal RELATIONSHIP with Skinner and thought the guy got a raw deal. He now is writing about it, that is his job.

eepstein0 {l Wrote}:

Cadillac90 {l Wrote}:

eepstein0 {l Wrote}:

ATLeagle {l Wrote}:Katz was close with the Skinner staff but I bet he will continue to be close to whoever takes over. He's been going to BC games for 35 years and any time he is home he stops by BC. He's really a BC fan, although he cannot really say so given his job.

I like Katz, but I hate his agenda about as much as I hate HJS's agenda.

What agenda? He had his own personal observations of Skinner and thought the guy got a raw deal. He now is writing about it, that is his job.

Katz is going to defend Skinner all the way down the river no matter what the truth really was.

Cadillac90 {l Wrote}:

eepstein0 {l Wrote}:

Cadillac90 {l Wrote}:

eepstein0 {l Wrote}:

ATLeagle {l Wrote}:Katz was close with the Skinner staff but I bet he will continue to be close to whoever takes over. He's been going to BC games for 35 years and any time he is home he stops by BC. He's really a BC fan, although he cannot really say so given his job.

I like Katz, but I hate his agenda about as much as I hate HJS's agenda.

What agenda? He had his own personal observations of Skinner and thought the guy got a raw deal. He now is writing about it, that is his job.

Katz is going to defend Skinner all the way down the river no matter what the truth really was.

Yes because he was there and witnessed things that you or I did not witness. If Gene doesn't like what Katz has written, pick up the phone and tell Katz what "really" happened.

eepstein0 {l Wrote}:Already happened. Gene = Bob Ryan Article Skinner = Katz article. You can believe whoever you want, but it's not Katz's job to go to bat for a friend.

b0mberMan {l Wrote}:

eepstein0 {l Wrote}:Already happened. Gene = Bob Ryan Article Skinner = Katz article. You can believe whoever you want, but it's not Katz's job to go to bat for a friend.

Yup. Cause journalists never go to bat to keep their sources happy and the info flowing. Is it ethical? No. But to act like it never happens is silly.

eepstein0 {l Wrote}:

b0mberMan {l Wrote}:

eepstein0 {l Wrote}:Already happened. Gene = Bob Ryan Article Skinner = Katz article. You can believe whoever you want, but it's not Katz's job to go to bat for a friend.

Yup. Cause journalists never go to bat to keep their sources happy and the info flowing. Is it ethical? No. But to act like it never happens is silly.

Trust me I know it happens. It's just not in the job description. Michael Wilbon goes to bat for certain guys in this town all the time to keep his sources open

screagle {l Wrote}:now espn has a poll on their main page...

"should boston college have removed skinner as head coach?"

RegalBCeagle {l Wrote}:The reality is that the TOB firing and the Skinner firing were the right moves at the right time.