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Hawkins Done for Year

Postby claver2010 on Wed Dec 06, 2017 12:54 pm

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Re: Hawkins Done for Year

Postby DavidGordonsFoot on Wed Dec 06, 2017 1:18 pm

0-18 definitely in play now.

I'm not well-versed in the history of BC basketball, but Jimmy MAC has to be the worst coach in terms of winning percentage in the history of the program, no? He is currently 35-70 overall and 6-48 in conference play.
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Re: Hawkins Done for Year

Postby flyingelvii on Wed Dec 06, 2017 1:59 pm

That is correct. He is probably followed by Donahue but I don't want to actually do the math.
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Re: Hawkins Done for Year

Postby Tom Dooder on Wed Dec 06, 2017 3:31 pm

There goes any hope for the NIT.
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Re: Hawkins Done for Year

Postby Corporal Funishment on Wed Dec 06, 2017 5:25 pm

It's a tough break for everyone involved but I think we're looking at 2-16 again and I don't think Christian can survive that
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Re: Hawkins Done for Year

Postby TobaccoRoadEagle on Wed Dec 06, 2017 5:37 pm

Corporal Funishment wrote:It's a tough break for everyone involved but I think we're looking at 2-16 again and I don't think Christian can survive that

will you change your avatar to jimmy mac once he gets fired? just wondering if you'll be doing something to try and offset the signature i plan to require of you when jimmy mac gets rightfully shitcanned
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Re: Hawkins Done for Year

Postby MF73-Eleazar on Wed Dec 06, 2017 6:45 pm

Tom Dooder wrote:There goes any hope for the NIT.


Thought they had a legit chance. Wasn't meant to be.
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Re: Hawkins Done for Year

Postby eepstein0 on Wed Dec 06, 2017 8:23 pm

MF73-Eleazar wrote:
Tom Dooder wrote:There goes any hope for the NIT.


Thought they had a legit chance. Wasn't meant to be.


They did, but not without Hawkins
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Re: Hawkins Done for Year

Postby Cadillac90 on Thu Dec 07, 2017 12:53 pm

Is it too early to talk about potential new coaches?
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Re: Hawkins Done for Year

Postby 2001Eagle on Thu Dec 07, 2017 1:19 pm

Let’s bring Rick Pitino back to New England.
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Re: Hawkins Done for Year

Postby MattTheEagle on Thu Dec 07, 2017 1:27 pm

Cadillac90 wrote:Is it too early to talk about potential new coaches?

No. It’s never been too early the second Brad Bates decided to hire Jim Christian.

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Re: Hawkins Done for Year

Postby twballgame9 on Thu Dec 07, 2017 1:37 pm

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Re: Hawkins Done for Year

Postby Cadillac90 on Thu Dec 07, 2017 1:44 pm

MattTheEagle wrote:
Cadillac90 wrote:Is it too early to talk about potential new coaches?

No. It’s never been too early the second Brad Bates decided to hire Jim Christian.

Dan Majerle


Not a bad idea. Obviously Tom Crean would also be a good choice.
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Re: Hawkins Done for Year

Postby TobaccoRoadEagle on Thu Dec 07, 2017 3:19 pm

Cadillac90 wrote:Is it too early to talk about potential new coaches?

lavar ball seems to know a thing or two about basketball.

we could try to get rakim sander's uncle on the staff as well. and maybe max ricci's dad as a conditioning coach who's also responsible for arranging transportation for the team
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Re: Hawkins Done for Year

Postby DomingoOrtiz on Thu Dec 07, 2017 3:25 pm

TobaccoRoadEagle wrote:
Cadillac90 wrote:Is it too early to talk about potential new coaches?

lavar ball seems to know a thing or two about basketball.

we could try to get rakim sander's uncle on the staff as well. and maybe max ricci's dad as a conditioning coach who's also responsible for arranging transportation for the team


What's the Rakim Sanders' uncle story? I guess I somehow missed this one.
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Re: Hawkins Done for Year

Postby claver2010 on Thu Dec 07, 2017 4:57 pm

guy went nuts during games, got assigned a personal security guard to make sure he didn't go too crazy. a lot of fun to watch, had this huge white t shirt with a picture of rakim on the front, when rakim had some huge breakaway dunk he ran up the aisle from behind the bench into concourse, reemerged like 10 seconds later still in amazement

probably exerted more energy than double cheesesteak did am I right? /spinning bowtie
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Re: Hawkins Done for Year

Postby eepstein0 on Thu Dec 07, 2017 5:53 pm

Cadillac90 wrote:
MattTheEagle wrote:
Cadillac90 wrote:Is it too early to talk about potential new coaches?

No. It’s never been too early the second Brad Bates decided to hire Jim Christian.

Dan Majerle


Not a bad idea. Obviously Tom Crean would also be a good choice.


I’ll throw Thad Matta out there assuming health
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Re: Hawkins Done for Year

Postby MF73-Eleazar on Thu Dec 07, 2017 9:06 pm

Reading up on Crean, he sounds perfect.
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Re: Hawkins Done for Year

Postby twballgame9 on Thu Dec 07, 2017 9:39 pm

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Re: Hawkins Done for Year

Postby Shoreagle on Fri Dec 08, 2017 9:03 am

twballgame9 wrote:King Rice


No. He doesn't drink alcohol. You need that for post game relief with BC hoops.
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Re: Hawkins Done for Year

Postby twballgame9 on Fri Dec 08, 2017 10:17 am

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Re: Hawkins Done for Year

Postby twballgame9 on Fri Dec 08, 2017 10:18 am

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Re: Hawkins Done for Year

Postby 2001Eagle on Fri Dec 08, 2017 10:42 am

I think Eisley could get the job done.
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Re: Hawkins Done for Year

Postby HJS on Sat Dec 09, 2017 2:37 pm

TobaccoRoadEagle wrote:
Corporal Funishment wrote:It's a tough break for everyone involved but I think we're looking at 2-16 again and I don't think Christian can survive that

will you change your avatar to jimmy mac once he gets fired? just wondering if you'll be doing something to try and offset the signature i plan to require of you when jimmy mac gets rightfully shitcanned

Looks like TRE pulled a Leon Lett and spiked the ball before crossing the goal line.
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Re: Hawkins Done for Year

Postby MilitantEagle on Sat Dec 09, 2017 3:24 pm

HJS wrote:
TobaccoRoadEagle wrote:
Corporal Funishment wrote:It's a tough break for everyone involved but I think we're looking at 2-16 again and I don't think Christian can survive that

will you change your avatar to jimmy mac once he gets fired? just wondering if you'll be doing something to try and offset the signature i plan to require of you when jimmy mac gets rightfully shitcanned

Looks like TRE pulled a Leon Lett and spiked the ball before crossing the goal line.


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Re: Hawkins Done for Year

Postby missoulaEagle on Mon Dec 18, 2017 1:50 pm

Any chance that Hawkins could medical red shirt and come back next year?
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Re: Hawkins Done for Year

Postby eagle9903 on Mon Dec 18, 2017 2:09 pm

missoulaEagle wrote:Any chance that Hawkins could medical red shirt and come back next year?


Maybe, he'd need a hardship waiver and it was game 8 when he got hurt. I think that puts him past the point where its basically automatic, but would be in the discretion of the NCAA.
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Re: Hawkins Done for Year

Postby Corporal Funishment on Mon Dec 18, 2017 3:12 pm

This is a difficult question, and naturally the board's intellectual lightweights have clearly spent less time wrestling with its intricacies than they have their own weiners.

The medical redshirt rule is 30% of games, so he's fine there, unless BC proves so dominant that the rest of the NCAA rolls over and abandons the season in mid-February (plausible, but not probable). The issue is eligibility clock. I'm not sure what the NCAA will make of his "non-qualifier" year in 2013-14. He non-qualified 1 year, then played 3 at Illinois State, then transferred here. The eligibility clock supposedly starts when you enroll full-time at a college. If that year doesn't count (board lawyers, make yourself useful for once), this is a simple medical redshirt application and he's fine. If that year counts, he's already on his 5th year and he would need a special hardship extension to play again. Supposedly, the standard here for obtaining a sixth year is that a player missed 2 years for reasons beyond his own control. The injury this year would count, the non-qualifer year is hard to say. Hawkins committed to Wichita State, decommitted without ever playing, and was made to sit out a year by the conference commissioner as an intra-conference transfer, in what contemporary media reports call a "unique ruling." As far as I can tell, Hawkins didn't practice with the team that year but he was a student at the school. I would wonder if that was done to preserve eligibility...?

So in conclusion, the issues are:
Did his eligibility clock start in 2013-14?
If no, we're fine. If yes, as I unfortunately suspect...

Will sitting out that 2013-14 year count as a hardship beyond his control?
If yes, we're fine. If no, as I unfortunately suspect, he's done.

There's also the issue of does he want to come back another year. I have no idea on that one but I would suspect it's tied to over- or underachievement this year and whether or not some of our draftable prospects decide to get themselves drafted and whether the coach is still the MAC's winningest.

This would be a fine place for the board insiders to chime in.
I look forward to being called stupid for expressing the above thought.
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Re: Hawkins Done for Year

Postby DavidGordonsFoot on Mon Dec 18, 2017 3:18 pm

Even if he gets a 6th year, he'll bail after they can Jimmy Mac.
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Re: Hawkins Done for Year

Postby Tom Dooder on Mon Dec 18, 2017 3:23 pm

DavidGordonsFoot wrote:Even if he gets a 6th year, he'll bail after they can Jimmy Mac.


If Jimmy Mac makes the NIT and gets the recruits he's rumored to get, that's not happening.
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