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Re: Commits/Recruiting

Postby BCEaglesFan on Tue Feb 12, 2013 6:44 am

MattTheEagle wrote:
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BC923 wrote:can anybody give me an update on any >6'7" people we might sign this year? I've been out of the recruiting loop


Just Rashard Kelly, we will most likely get him

I'd be really happy if we landed Kelly, but I am pretty sure Kelly is exactly 6'7". We really need a Center, Anderson is an excellent PF but an awful Center. Right now all we have for Center players are out-of-shape 0-minute Caudill and injured Clifford.

Hoff said BC has a 50/50 shot to get Kelly

BC is still recruiting Darryl Reynolds hard...
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Re: Commits/Recruiting

Postby 2001Eagle on Tue Feb 12, 2013 7:37 am

Like Jorgenson, if Kelly really wanted BC, he would have committed already. I'm guessing he's gone.
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Re: Commits/Recruiting

Postby BCEagles25 on Tue Feb 12, 2013 9:42 am

on a scale of 1-10, I really want Darryl Reynolds to play for BC
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Re: Commits/Recruiting

Postby eagle9903 on Tue Feb 12, 2013 9:51 am

2001Eagle wrote:Like Jorgenson, if Kelly really wanted BC, he would have committed already. I'm guessing he's gone.


While I agree that Kelly pretty obviously doesn't really want to come to BC, unlike Jorgenson he doesn't have good alternatives. Jorgenson had G-tech, Creighton, Missouri and Ok State to choose from. Kelly has Seton Hall and not going to college this year. I wouldn't be at all surprised if he gets a very late offer from somewhere and takes it though.
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Re: Commits/Recruiting

Postby eagle9903 on Tue Feb 12, 2013 9:55 am

By the way, I readily admit that a strikeout in 2013 is enough to show that Donahue has a recruiting problem. I fully expect a 5th year transfer over 6'8, but 1) that's not enough unless it can be replicated the following year and 2) it can't be van nest like.
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Re: Commits/Recruiting

Postby 31southst on Tue Feb 12, 2013 9:56 am

RedBaron67 wrote:
MattTheEagle wrote:
Shaddix wrote:
BC923 wrote:can anybody give me an update on any >6'7" people we might sign this year? I've been out of the recruiting loop


Just Rashard Kelly, we will most likely get him

I'd be really happy if we landed Kelly, but I am pretty sure Kelly is exactly 6'7". We really need a Center, Anderson is an excellent PF but an awful Center. Right now all we have for Center players are out-of-shape 0-minute Caudill and injured Clifford.


As noted above, BC has recently joined the chase for the wildly popular (over 30 offers) Matthew Atewe (6'9", 230 lbs.) of Notre Dame Prep (Fitchburg), an esteemed rebounder and shot blocker who would presumably do a great deal to help BC's interior defense and rebounding. Our prospects for signing him out of the midst of such a mob scene, however, don't look all that hot at first glance. Still, Graham might have a decent shot at him (Atewe is from Toronto), and at least the school is close enough for BC to keep in touch. None of this makes me highly confident; rather, I incline to the view that the best to be said about BC's recruiting chances with Atewe is that they're probably better than they are with Severe.


http://insider.espn.go.com/blog/ncbrecruiting/national/post?id=5576

This update is from Friday:

Notre Dame Prep (Mass.) senior big man Matthew Atewe missed last weekend’s National Prep School Invitational (NPSI) with an injury, but he managed to keep himself in the headlines by announcing he had cut his list to six schools: Auburn, Charlotte, Clemson, Nebraska, Nevada and Wake Forest.
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Re: Commits/Recruiting

Postby eagle9903 on Tue Feb 12, 2013 10:05 am

31southst wrote:
RedBaron67 wrote:
MattTheEagle wrote:
Shaddix wrote:
BC923 wrote:can anybody give me an update on any >6'7" people we might sign this year? I've been out of the recruiting loop


Just Rashard Kelly, we will most likely get him

I'd be really happy if we landed Kelly, but I am pretty sure Kelly is exactly 6'7". We really need a Center, Anderson is an excellent PF but an awful Center. Right now all we have for Center players are out-of-shape 0-minute Caudill and injured Clifford.


As noted above, BC has recently joined the chase for the wildly popular (over 30 offers) Matthew Atewe (6'9", 230 lbs.) of Notre Dame Prep (Fitchburg), an esteemed rebounder and shot blocker who would presumably do a great deal to help BC's interior defense and rebounding. Our prospects for signing him out of the midst of such a mob scene, however, don't look all that hot at first glance. Still, Graham might have a decent shot at him (Atewe is from Toronto), and at least the school is close enough for BC to keep in touch. None of this makes me highly confident; rather, I incline to the view that the best to be said about BC's recruiting chances with Atewe is that they're probably better than they are with Severe.


http://insider.espn.go.com/blog/ncbrecruiting/national/post?id=5576

This update is from Friday:

Notre Dame Prep (Mass.) senior big man Matthew Atewe missed last weekend’s National Prep School Invitational (NPSI) with an injury, but he managed to keep himself in the headlines by announcing he had cut his list to six schools: Auburn, Charlotte, Clemson, Nebraska, Nevada and Wake Forest.


Atewe was never a serious consideration.
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Re: Commits/Recruiting

Postby eepstein0 on Tue Feb 12, 2013 10:39 am

BCEagles25 wrote:on a scale of 1-10, I really want Darryl Reynolds to play for BC


Rebounding and shot blocking would help a ton.
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Re: Commits/Recruiting

Postby GT BoSox on Tue Feb 12, 2013 10:42 am

- Quakerdale Prep (MO) shooting guard Jalen Norman claims a new offer from Boston College.
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Re: Commits/Recruiting

Postby twballgame9 on Tue Feb 12, 2013 10:51 am

GT BoSox wrote:- Quakerdale Prep (MO) shooting guard Jalen Norman claims a new offer from Boston College.


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Re: Commits/Recruiting

Postby Cadillac90 on Tue Feb 12, 2013 12:16 pm

Shaddix wrote:
BC923 wrote:can anybody give me an update on any >6'7" people we might sign this year? I've been out of the recruiting loop


Just Rashard Kelly, we will most likely get him


Really? Just like a lot of folks here thought we'd get Jorgensen? What has the Don and his merry band of recruiters done to provide you with this confidence? Your statement is irresponsible message boardery!!!!
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Re: Commits/Recruiting

Postby TobaccoRoadEagle on Tue Feb 12, 2013 12:24 pm

dear mrs. skinner,

shaddix is "the recruiting guy."

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Re: Commits/Recruiting

Postby Shaddix on Tue Feb 12, 2013 12:30 pm

Cadillac90 wrote:
Shaddix wrote:
BC923 wrote:can anybody give me an update on any >6'7" people we might sign this year? I've been out of the recruiting loop


Just Rashard Kelly, we will most likely get him


Really? Just like a lot of folks here thought we'd get Jorgensen? What has the Don and his merry band of recruiters done to provide you with this confidence? Your statement is irresponsible message boardery!!!!


BC really doesn't face any competition for him. Seton Hall hasn't offered. Seton and Miami are trailing him as of now
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Re: Commits/Recruiting

Postby 31southst on Tue Feb 12, 2013 12:37 pm

Shaddix wrote:BC really doesn't face any competition for him. Seton Hall hasn't offered. Seton and Miami are trailing him as of now

We face the competition of a prep year and we just might lose.
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Re: Commits/Recruiting

Postby Cadillac90 on Tue Feb 12, 2013 12:39 pm

Shaddix wrote:
Cadillac90 wrote:
Shaddix wrote:
BC923 wrote:can anybody give me an update on any >6'7" people we might sign this year? I've been out of the recruiting loop


Just Rashard Kelly, we will most likely get him


Really? Just like a lot of folks here thought we'd get Jorgensen? What has the Don and his merry band of recruiters done to provide you with this confidence? Your statement is irresponsible message boardery!!!!


BC really doesn't face any competition for him. Seton Hall hasn't offered. Seton and Miami are trailing him as of now


I hope you are right because they need some help rebounding the ball.
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Re: Commits/Recruiting

Postby Shaddix on Tue Feb 12, 2013 12:46 pm

31southst wrote:
Shaddix wrote:BC really doesn't face any competition for him. Seton Hall hasn't offered. Seton and Miami are trailing him as of now

We face the competition of a prep year and we just might lose.


He's leaning towards BC, but yes that is our strongest competition. Actually I'm sorry... Seton Hall HAS offered and Miami hasn't. Heard something about Utah recruiting him as well
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Re: Commits/Recruiting

Postby Shaddix on Tue Feb 12, 2013 1:25 pm

Kanter and Reynolds will both decide in April btw. My big men rankings are probably 1. Reynolds 2. Kelly 3. Kanter
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Re: Commits/Recruiting

Postby RedBaron67 on Wed Feb 13, 2013 12:11 am

Shaddix wrote:
31southst wrote:
Shaddix wrote:BC really doesn't face any competition for him. Seton Hall hasn't offered. Seton and Miami are trailing him as of now

We face the competition of a prep year and we just might lose.


He's leaning towards BC, but yes that is our strongest competition. Actually I'm sorry... Seton Hall HAS offered and Miami hasn't. Heard something about Utah recruiting him as well
Shaddix wrote:Kanter and Reynolds will both decide in April btw. My big men rankings are probably 1. Reynolds 2. Kelly 3. Kanter


I just found something rather intriguing -- a recent feature article/interview about Kelly in a hometown paper. According to Kelly, he nearly gave a verbal commitment when he visited BC, but held back because he wants to be sure that he's thoroughly considered his options -- and that's fine by me, because it shows that the kid has his head screwed on the right way. He also repeated something very interesting that the BC coaches told him during his visit: that they're recruiting Owens and him because they want to change the team mentality, specifically that they want them to bring in greater mental toughness and a harder-nosed approach to the game. Telling this to a public journal will not win Kelly any points for discretion or tact, but it certainly is informative. (It's worth pointing out that Reynolds, who plays with the same blue-collar attitude, will fit into this plan just as easily.)

There was also information about Utah's pursuit of Kelly. He said that Utah has been working on him very hard for an official visit, and indicated that he would probably make one. It's easy to see why they haven't offered yet; they want to know he's interested enough to make a visit, and then they can package the offer with the visit. All this suggests that we might yet have more competition than expected, although, unless you're crazy about mountain and desert landscapes, or else a ski nut (which he wouldn't have time for, anyway), Chestnut Hill has to look better than Provo.

The article also mentioned that Kelly is still 17 (or maybe just turned 18 by now), and has been regularly going up against players 2 and even 3 years older. On the one hand, this shows that he's well prepared; on the other, it gives him another possible reason to prep for another year. This has a special wrinkle to it because Kelly stated that a few programs (Georgia and South Carolina were among the names mentioned) have given him verbal assurance that they'll offer him for 2014 if he stays in prep school. Kelly's recruitment seems to have all kinds of possible twists and turns.

Of course, there's still the alternative possibility of Reynolds, who has the basic essentials -- rebounding and defense -- and might very well be the better choice, seeing that he's already a PG.
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Re: Commits/Recruiting

Postby Shaddix on Wed Feb 13, 2013 12:30 am

RedBaron67 wrote:
Shaddix wrote:
31southst wrote:
Shaddix wrote:BC really doesn't face any competition for him. Seton Hall hasn't offered. Seton and Miami are trailing him as of now

We face the competition of a prep year and we just might lose.


He's leaning towards BC, but yes that is our strongest competition. Actually I'm sorry... Seton Hall HAS offered and Miami hasn't. Heard something about Utah recruiting him as well
Shaddix wrote:Kanter and Reynolds will both decide in April btw. My big men rankings are probably 1. Reynolds 2. Kelly 3. Kanter


I just found something rather intriguing -- a recent feature article/interview about Kelly in a hometown paper. According to Kelly, he nearly gave a verbal commitment when he visited BC, but held back because he wants to be sure that he's thoroughly considered his options -- and that's fine by me, because it shows that the kid has his head screwed on the right way. He also repeated something very interesting that the BC coaches told him during his visit: that they're recruiting Owens and him because they want to change the team mentality, specifically that they want them to bring in greater mental toughness and a harder-nosed approach to the game. Telling this to a public journal will not win Kelly any points for discretion or tact, but it certainly is informative. (It's worth pointing out that Reynolds, who plays with the same blue-collar attitude, will fit into this plan just as easily.)

There was also information about Utah's pursuit of Kelly. He said that Utah has been working on him very hard for an official visit, and indicated that he would probably make one. It's easy to see why they haven't offered yet; they want to know he's interested enough to make a visit, and then they can package the offer with the visit. All this suggests that we might yet have more competition than expected, although, unless you're crazy about mountain and desert landscapes, or else a ski nut (which he wouldn't have time for, anyway), Chestnut Hill has to look better than Provo.

The article also mentioned that Kelly is still 17 (or maybe just turned 18 by now), and has been regularly going up against players 2 and even 3 years older. On the one hand, this shows that he's well prepared; on the other, it gives him another possible reason to prep for another year. This has a special wrinkle to it because Kelly stated that a few programs (Georgia and South Carolina were among the names mentioned) have given him verbal assurance that they'll offer him for 2014 if he stays in prep school. Kelly's recruitment seems to have all kinds of possible twists and turns.

Of course, there's still the alternative possibility of Reynolds, who has the basic essentials -- rebounding and defense -- and might very well be the better choice, seeing that he's already a PG.


That's what Mark Dennehy did with Merrimack hockey. He brought in players from canada who were used to winning in high school/juniors (on championship teams). Players who were under recruited. Of course anyone who follows hockey east knows that the players Merrimack gets are usually much older, but Dennehy feels as if their games may have peaked at a later stage. Bringing in two kids from the best high school basketball team in the nation would certainly be great for their mentality.

Darryl Reynolds plays on a team with Rene Castro and Matt Cimino. Worcester is one of the best high school teams in the nation as well. Darryl is more D1 ready than Kelly too.
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Re: Commits/Recruiting

Postby BCEagles25 on Wed Feb 13, 2013 12:44 am

I'd love to see Reynolds and Kelly end up Eagles. and another capable combo guard.
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Re: Commits/Recruiting

Postby BCEaglesFan on Wed Feb 13, 2013 7:07 am

BCEagles25 wrote:I'd love to see Reynolds and Kelly end up Eagles. and another capable combo guard.

Word is they are recruiting Darryl Hicks, Jon Severe and Jalen Norman, who are all SG-types but all can play the 1.
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Re: Commits/Recruiting

Postby BCEaglesFan on Wed Feb 13, 2013 7:20 am

Shaddix wrote:Kanter and Reynolds will both decide in April btw. My big men rankings are probably 1. Reynolds 2. Kelly 3. Kanter

Can I have a source for that? I can't find anything...

Also, If anyone wants the Recruiting Notebook, here's basically what it says:
1. Publicly Jorgenson said he didn't care about playing time, but privately people think that was a huge part of his decision.
2. BC's 3 guard targets are now Darryl Hicks, Jon Severe and Jalen Norman. All are 2's but have the handle to play the 1.
3. Rashard Kelly looked like the most likely big man to pick BC, but there's talk now that he's really started to seriously consider reclassifying (along w/picking BC).
4. Other big men BC is recruiting are Darryl Reynolds, Skye Johnson (Couldn't find anything on him besides he has an offer from GW), and Thomas Hamilton
5. Ian Sistate, Josh Sharma, Sam Donahue, and Paschal Chukwu all made the trip for the Duke game.
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Re: Commits/Recruiting

Postby eepstein0 on Wed Feb 13, 2013 8:41 am

Reynolds or Hamilton would be great. Maybe even both.

That Skye kid is 6'6", no thanks really
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Re: Commits/Recruiting

Postby GT BoSox on Wed Feb 13, 2013 9:17 am

- Thurgood Marshall (OH) shooting guard Mark Alstork says he is receiving strong, new interest from Boston College.
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Re: Commits/Recruiting

Postby eagle9903 on Wed Feb 13, 2013 9:19 am

BCEaglesFan wrote:
Shaddix wrote:Kanter and Reynolds will both decide in April btw. My big men rankings are probably 1. Reynolds 2. Kelly 3. Kanter

Can I have a source for that? I can't find anything...

Also, If anyone wants the Recruiting Notebook, here's basically what it says:
1. Publicly Jorgenson said he didn't care about playing time, but privately people think that was a huge part of his decision.
2. BC's 3 guard targets are now Darryl Hicks, Jon Severe and Jalen Norman. All are 2's but have the handle to play the 1.
3. Rashard Kelly looked like the most likely big man to pick BC, but there's talk now that he's really started to seriously consider reclassifying (along w/picking BC).
4. Other big men BC is recruiting are Darryl Reynolds, Skye Johnson (Couldn't find anything on him besides he has an offer from GW), and Thomas Hamilton
5. Ian Sistate, Josh Sharma, Sam Donahue, and Paschal Chukwu all made the trip for the Duke game.


Thomas Hamilton can't be someone with real interest right?
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Re: Commits/Recruiting

Postby bcmurph on Wed Feb 13, 2013 9:28 am

GT BoSox wrote:- Thurgood Marshall (OH) shooting guard Mark Alstork says he is receiving strong, new interest from Boston College.


“Recruiting is everywhere right now. I’ve got Northeastern, Maryland, Duquesne, Illinois State, Bethune Cookman, Drake, Farleigh Dickinson, Wright State, Cleveland State, Lehigh, Columbia, Yale, Toledo, Miami Ohio, Radford, Kennesaw state, Holy Cross looking at me. I’ve just got a lot of mid-major schools looking at me. I'm very open at this moment.”

When it does come time to make a decision what are you looking for in a school?

“I am going to look at the program, how the athletes get treated, if I have a chance of starting, education, development of players, graduation rate of the basketball players, and what classes the players are in.”


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Re: Commits/Recruiting

Postby bcmurph on Wed Feb 13, 2013 9:35 am

Stanford Robinson (red jersey) and Mark Alstork (white jersey) went head to head at the 2013 Flyin To The Hoop event in Dayton, Ohio. Findlay Prep came into the event as the #1 team in the country and proved that they deserved their ranking as they beat Thurgood Marshall by a score of 71-47. Robinson who is headed to Indiana next year finished with 16 points and 8 rebounds while Alstork put 23 points on Findlay.


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Re: Commits/Recruiting

Postby HJS on Wed Feb 13, 2013 10:21 am

eagle9903 wrote:
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Shaddix wrote:Kanter and Reynolds will both decide in April btw. My big men rankings are probably 1. Reynolds 2. Kelly 3. Kanter

Can I have a source for that? I can't find anything...

Also, If anyone wants the Recruiting Notebook, here's basically what it says:
1. Publicly Jorgenson said he didn't care about playing time, but privately people think that was a huge part of his decision.
2. BC's 3 guard targets are now Darryl Hicks, Jon Severe and Jalen Norman. All are 2's but have the handle to play the 1.
3. Rashard Kelly looked like the most likely big man to pick BC, but there's talk now that he's really started to seriously consider reclassifying (along w/picking BC).
4. Other big men BC is recruiting are Darryl Reynolds, Skye Johnson (Couldn't find anything on him besides he has an offer from GW), and Thomas Hamilton
5. Ian Sistate, Josh Sharma, Sam Donahue, and Paschal Chukwu all made the trip for the Duke game.


Thomas Hamilton can't be someone with real interest right?

As far as I can tell, Hamilton is your quintessential enigmatic big man. All the skills, build and talent to be elite... but questionable head and motivation. He also has a long history of injuries. I can't find anything about his current team and whether he is even seeing regular minutes. But, the lack of court time has been a problem for him. He was supposedly sent to IMG Academy to (a) get his grades in order and (b) develop a work ethic. Hard to excel at BC without either of those. That said... at this point... if he can get in academically (big IF), he is certainly worth a flier. If the light ever goes on, he could be exactly what the team need.

Speaking of what the team needs... any chance they can as Chukwu to reclassify to 2013. We could use him immediately.
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Re: Commits/Recruiting

Postby eagle9903 on Wed Feb 13, 2013 10:23 am

bcmurph wrote:
Stanford Robinson (red jersey) and Mark Alstork (white jersey) went head to head at the 2013 Flyin To The Hoop event in Dayton, Ohio. Findlay Prep came into the event as the #1 team in the country and proved that they deserved their ranking as they beat Thurgood Marshall by a score of 71-47. Robinson who is headed to Indiana next year finished with 16 points and 8 rebounds while Alstork put 23 points on Findlay.




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Re: Commits/Recruiting

Postby eagle9903 on Wed Feb 13, 2013 10:25 am

HJS wrote:
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Shaddix wrote:Kanter and Reynolds will both decide in April btw. My big men rankings are probably 1. Reynolds 2. Kelly 3. Kanter

Can I have a source for that? I can't find anything...

Also, If anyone wants the Recruiting Notebook, here's basically what it says:
1. Publicly Jorgenson said he didn't care about playing time, but privately people think that was a huge part of his decision.
2. BC's 3 guard targets are now Darryl Hicks, Jon Severe and Jalen Norman. All are 2's but have the handle to play the 1.
3. Rashard Kelly looked like the most likely big man to pick BC, but there's talk now that he's really started to seriously consider reclassifying (along w/picking BC).
4. Other big men BC is recruiting are Darryl Reynolds, Skye Johnson (Couldn't find anything on him besides he has an offer from GW), and Thomas Hamilton
5. Ian Sistate, Josh Sharma, Sam Donahue, and Paschal Chukwu all made the trip for the Duke game.


Thomas Hamilton can't be someone with real interest right?

As far as I can tell, Hamilton is your quintessential enigmatic big man. All the skills, build and talent to be elite... but questionable head and motivation. He also has a long history of injuries. I can't find anything about his current team and whether he is even seeing regular minutes. But, the lack of court time has been a problem for him. He was supposedly sent to IMG Academy to (a) get his grades in order and (b) develop a work ethic. Hard to excel at BC without either of those. That said... at this point... if he can get in academically (big IF), he is certainly worth a flier. If the light ever goes on, he could be exactly what the team need.

Speaking of what the team needs... any chance they can as Chukwu to reclassify to 2013. We could use him immediately.


I meant more the offer sheet combined with the lack of information prior to today. I definitely think he'd be worth a flier, but he has MSU, NC State and Illinois offers and I've never heard of him before in the context of BC recruiting so I don't think we were in on him early. I could have certainly missed earlier mentions of him in which case my post is based on a wrong assumption.
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