MattTheEagle wrote: eagle9903 wrote: MattTheEagle wrote:
eepstein0 wrote:How do people feel about a Jorgensen, Owens and Kelly class of 2013?
I'd give it a solid B. Highly rated PG and a couple high level athletes.
B sounds about right, maybe a B+. Both Owens and Kelly would help a lot.
Jorgensen would be a nice addition too. I like Hanlan but he plays a very different game than say Daniels. Hanlan is more of a shooter/slasher. I am hoping Jorgensen fits more of the ballhandling/passing role that Daniels excelled at.
I do not agree with this assessment of the games of Olivier Hanlan or Jordan Daniels.
My "assessment" is just based on observing most of the games from this year and last. After posting this, I noticed the stats support what I was trying to say. This isn't to say that Hanlan is a bad passer or ballhandler, he just isn't quite at Daniels level yet. Nonetheless, I do think Hanlan is the better PG overall.
Is it your contention that Hanlan and Daniels are the same type of PG? I am not trying to start an argument, I am just curious how your assessment differs.
I think Hanlan is better than Daniels at all aspects of the position, but because he plays primarily next to Rahon/Jackson as opposed to Humphrey/Jackson, the ball is out of his hands more. Thus he has slightly less assists and a slightly worse Assist to turnover ratio but scores more. I think if our primary 2 guard was still Humphrey (or a similar gunner), Hanlan would probably have higher assist numbers, score less and probably have less turnovers because he would drive less. We would also be even worse than we are now. Conversely, if Daniels played next to Rahon, apart from us being probably the worst defensive team of all time instead of just bottom 10, Daniels would probably score more but I think he'd have less assists.
Short version: my eyeballs tell me Hanlan is a better scorer, ballhandler and passer, but is asked to perform less of a pass first PG role.
BC once attracted stars like Abrams, Adams, Agbai, Austin, Bagley, Barros, Bell, Curley, Driscoll, Dudley, Eisley, Evans, Huckaby, Jackson, McCready, Murphy, O'Brien, Rice, Smith, Williams, et al.
Those days are gone.
And who is responsible for that?