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Re: Commits/Recruiting

Postby BCEaglesFan on Wed Nov 14, 2012 7:18 am

Both BC recruits will be at the National Prep Showcase in New Haven, CT this weekend.

Sam Donahue and NMH will be playing at 5:15pm and Garland Owens and Massannutten play at 8:30pm on Friday.

Owens also plays at 2:45 on Saturday and Donahue plays again at 1:30 on Sunday.

Also, many NE guys have called Donahue to BC as a "steal" at least for a walk-on.
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Re: Commits/Recruiting

Postby twballgame9 on Wed Nov 14, 2012 11:41 am

BCEaglesFan wrote:Both BC recruits will be at the National Prep Showcase in New Haven, CT this weekend.

Sam Donahue and NMH will be playing at 5:15pm and Garland Owens and Massannutten play at 8:30pm on Friday.

Owens also plays at 2:45 on Saturday and Donahue plays again at 1:30 on Sunday.

Also, many NE guys have called Donahue to BC as a "steal" at least for a walk-on.


Yeah, this Donahue kid seems like a great pick up when you don't have to burn a scholarship. From what I have seen, he can shoot.
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Re: Commits/Recruiting

Postby BCEaglesFan on Wed Nov 14, 2012 5:48 pm

Owens signed his LOI today
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Re: Commits/Recruiting

Postby 2001Eagle on Wed Nov 14, 2012 6:17 pm

781 wrote:Donahue is a IVY League caliber guard but with that said if Donahue can utilize him the right way then we're looking at the best outside shooter since Sean Marshall. But Donahue is an even better shooter than Marshall but can't create his own shot of the dribble. i like this pick up as a walk on. Comes from a long line of brothers that are known for shooting. Their mom spent endless nights with them on their jumpshot.



I was very drunk for several of those years so I may be wrong, but I recall Marshall being a subpar outside shooter who was prone to getting hot only every once in a while.
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Re: Commits/Recruiting

Postby 2001Eagle on Wed Nov 14, 2012 6:47 pm

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781 wrote:Donahue is a IVY League caliber guard but with that said if Donahue can utilize him the right way then we're looking at the best outside shooter since Sean Marshall. But Donahue is an even better shooter than Marshall but can't create his own shot of the dribble. i like this pick up as a walk on. Comes from a long line of brothers that are known for shooting. Their mom spent endless nights with them on their jumpshot.



I was very drunk for several of those years so I may be wrong, but I recall Marshall being a subpar outside shooter who was prone to getting hot only every once in a while.


I went back and looked at the stats. He was in the mid 30's percentage wise, with one year where he shot 38%. Not terrible. Forgot how bad a FT shooter he was. Looking back at the game by game stats, I almost cried remembering: (1) how much fun it used to be to watch BC basketball; and (2) how badly I wanted to kill :seanwilliams for getting kicked off that team that was coming together to make a huge end of season run.
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Re: Commits/Recruiting

Postby BCEaglesFan on Wed Nov 14, 2012 7:07 pm

2001Eagle wrote:
2001Eagle wrote:
781 wrote:Donahue is a IVY League caliber guard but with that said if Donahue can utilize him the right way then we're looking at the best outside shooter since Sean Marshall. But Donahue is an even better shooter than Marshall but can't create his own shot of the dribble. i like this pick up as a walk on. Comes from a long line of brothers that are known for shooting. Their mom spent endless nights with them on their jumpshot.



I was very drunk for several of those years so I may be wrong, but I recall Marshall being a subpar outside shooter who was prone to getting hot only every once in a while.


I went back and looked at the stats. He was in the mid 30's percentage wise, with one year where he shot 38%. Not terrible. Forgot how bad a FT shooter he was. Looking back at the game by game stats, I almost cried remembering: (1) how much fun it used to be to watch BC basketball; and (2) how badly I wanted to kill :seanwilliams for getting kicked off that team that was coming together to make a huge end of season run.

I'm still saying that we'll be back to that level by next year.
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Re: Commits/Recruiting

Postby joemack13 on Thu Nov 15, 2012 5:08 pm

So who is still an option for 2013? From the look of it we need 1 more guy
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Re: Commits/Recruiting

Postby Brablc on Thu Nov 15, 2012 6:02 pm

joemack13 wrote:So who is still an option for 2013? From the look of it we need 1 more guy


Well remember we're adding Owens and Dragonevich (as well as Sam Donahue) to this team next year and subtracting Van Ness. Saying that I would love 1) another big that can bang inside and rebound and / or 2) ball handler (maybe Jorgensen) for next year.
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Re: Commits/Recruiting

Postby MattTheEagle on Thu Nov 15, 2012 6:51 pm

We could even recruit two more players in 2013 and the chances are we would still have 2-3 slots open for 2014. If Anderson continues to improve, he may have the opportunity to go pro a year early and pull a Reggie. Between that and either Heckmann, Odio, or Caudill transferring, I think it is likely we have at least one more scholarship open up for the 2014 recruiting class.

That being said we need talent! So far I have really liked Donahue's recent recruits: Hanlan, Rahon, and Owens. We need to continue to recruit who Donahue believes to be ACC players.

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Re: Commits/Recruiting

Postby bluefishskip on Sat Nov 17, 2012 6:28 pm

according to Garland Owens' twitter.....BC just offered Rashard Kelly (2013, 6-5 SF from Massannutan (sp?) Military Academy in VA)
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Re: Commits/Recruiting

Postby BCEaglesFan on Sat Nov 17, 2012 8:11 pm

bluefishskip wrote:according to Garland Owens' twitter.....BC just offered Rashard Kelly (2013, 6-5 SF from Massannutan (sp?) Military Academy in VA)

They had interest in him before...wonder how he fits. Seems to be another prep guy trying to raise his stock. He's 2014.

According to scout, he had interest from Rutgers, UMass and Delaware.
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Re: Commits/Recruiting

Postby 781 on Sat Nov 17, 2012 9:05 pm

Please tell me I have a witness in Connecticut right now watching Garland Owens play? He's not a high major player at all. Donahue failed on this one. He can't put the ball on the floor or shoot. Has made one field goal all weekend
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Re: Commits/Recruiting

Postby BCEaglesFan on Sat Nov 17, 2012 9:57 pm

781 wrote:Please tell me I have a witness in Connecticut right now watching Garland Owens play? He's not a high major player at all. Donahue failed on this one. He can't put the ball on the floor or shoot. Has made one field goal all weekend

I think it says something if Seton Hall AND BC offered him on the spot when they saw him in an open gym.

Guy at the Showcase texted me that he hasn't scored much but he shut down a top-100 prospect on defense.

He also said Sam Donahue caught fire in his first game.
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Re: Commits/Recruiting

Postby eepstein0 on Sat Nov 17, 2012 9:59 pm

Owens is supposed to be a project offensively. I expect him to help on defense a lot.
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Re: Commits/Recruiting

Postby eepstein0 on Sat Nov 17, 2012 10:01 pm

BCEaglesFan wrote:
781 wrote:Please tell me I have a witness in Connecticut right now watching Garland Owens play? He's not a high major player at all. Donahue failed on this one. He can't put the ball on the floor or shoot. Has made one field goal all weekend

I think it says something if Seton Hall AND BC offered him on the spot when they saw him in an open gym.

Guy at the Showcase texted me that he hasn't scored much but he shut down a top-100 prospect on defense.

He also said Sam Donahue caught fire in his first game.


Right. Super athlete who's a little raw offensively. This team could use a few of those.
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Re: Commits/Recruiting

Postby BCEaglesFan on Sat Nov 17, 2012 10:23 pm

Excuse me, Kelly is 2013 according to Owens.
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Re: Commits/Recruiting

Postby MattTheEagle on Sat Nov 17, 2012 10:43 pm

Kelly is an athlete and we need a few more players. Particularly considering Kelly is a 2013 player and could probably contribute right away, I like this offer a lot and hope Kelly joins.

I also strongly disagree with the critics who don't think Owens will be an ACC player. Garland Owens game needs to be polished, but Donahue is about as good as it gets for developing his players. He also seems highly coachable which is important. I have a feeling that Garland is going to be really special at BC. With the exception of Reggie Jackson, Owens will be the most athletic player to put on a BC uniform over the last 5 or so years. :angrychicken
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Re: Commits/Recruiting

Postby twballgame9 on Sun Nov 18, 2012 1:20 am

People that look at Owens and don't like what they see are clueless. His mere athleticism alone brings this horribly unathletic team up a notch.
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Re: Commits/Recruiting

Postby BCEaglesFan on Sun Nov 18, 2012 7:35 am

twballgame9 wrote:People that look at Owens and don't like what they see are clueless. His mere athleticism alone brings this horribly unathletic team up a notch.

If they add Rashard Kelly to that mix they add more athleticism (he's a teammate of Owens)
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Re: Commits/Recruiting

Postby BCEaglesFan on Sun Nov 18, 2012 7:40 am

A strong athletic wing, Kelly has all the physical intangibles you want in a player. The 6’5” wing can elevate with the best of them. He threw down a couple alley-oops throughout the day and did so with ease. The Bishop O’Connell product is also a great rebounder for his position, as he uses his jumping ability and strength to simply overpower his opponents. Offensively, Kelly likes to attack the rim with force and is usually effective in doing so, but sometimes will be out of control and either lose the ball or commit an offensive foul. He could really benefit from developing a short pull up jumper or floater in the lane to prevent these turnovers. I saw him knock down a couple outside jumpers, but he also passed up a few, which tells me it is not consistent yet. If Kelly can become a proven shooter from the outside and improve his decision making in the lane, then he could develop into a big time prospect. The potential is there. He told me that Northeastern, University of Richmond, and William and Mary are on him now.


This was from May. Sounds like he and Owens are similar prospects.
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Re: Commits/Recruiting

Postby eagle9903 on Sun Nov 18, 2012 8:21 am

twballgame9 wrote:People that look at Owens and don't like what they see are clueless. His mere athleticism alone brings this horribly unathletic team up a notch.


Read 781s projection that Owens is a similar prospect to Marquez Haynes then never read anything else he posts again.
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Re: Commits/Recruiting

Postby eagle9903 on Sun Nov 18, 2012 8:21 am

twballgame9 wrote:People that look at Owens and don't like what they see are clueless. His mere athleticism alone brings this horribly unathletic team up a notch.


Read 781s projection that Owens is a similar prospect to Marquez Haynes then never read anything else he posts again.
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Re: Commits/Recruiting

Postby eepstein0 on Sun Nov 18, 2012 9:27 am

eagle9903 wrote:
twballgame9 wrote:People that look at Owens and don't like what they see are clueless. His mere athleticism alone brings this horribly unathletic team up a notch.


Read 781s projection that Owens is a similar prospect to Marquez Haynes then never read anything else he posts again.


I'd prefer a ball handler instead of Kelly but I'll defer to the staff.

I've actually been very pleased once the recruits actually play (Rahon for instance). We still need a PF
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Re: Commits/Recruiting

Postby BCEaglesFan on Sun Nov 18, 2012 9:51 am

eepstein0 wrote:
eagle9903 wrote:
twballgame9 wrote:People that look at Owens and don't like what they see are clueless. His mere athleticism alone brings this horribly unathletic team up a notch.


Read 781s projection that Owens is a similar prospect to Marquez Haynes then never read anything else he posts again.


I'd prefer a ball handler instead of Kelly but I'll defer to the staff.

I've actually been very pleased once the recruits actually play (Rahon for instance). We still need a PF

Odio has been pretty good as a backup.

Kelly can play a little PF
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Re: Commits/Recruiting

Postby twballgame9 on Sun Nov 18, 2012 11:00 am

BCEaglesFan wrote:
eepstein0 wrote:
eagle9903 wrote:
twballgame9 wrote:People that look at Owens and don't like what they see are clueless. His mere athleticism alone brings this horribly unathletic team up a notch.


Read 781s projection that Owens is a similar prospect to Marquez Haynes then never read anything else he posts again.


I'd prefer a ball handler instead of Kelly but I'll defer to the staff.

I've actually been very pleased once the recruits actually play (Rahon for instance). We still need a PF

Odio has been pretty good as a backup.

Kelly can play a little PF


I'm fine with both of those assessments on the coaching side - Odio is definitely improved. I think eepstein's point is that while it is great that we can patchwork players behind Anderson and Clifford, it would nicer to just go recruit on that fits perfectly.
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Re: Commits/Recruiting

Postby eagle9903 on Sun Nov 18, 2012 11:24 am

twballgame9 wrote:
BCEaglesFan wrote:
eepstein0 wrote:
eagle9903 wrote:
twballgame9 wrote:People that look at Owens and don't like what they see are clueless. His mere athleticism alone brings this horribly unathletic team up a notch.


Read 781s projection that Owens is a similar prospect to Marquez Haynes then never read anything else he posts again.


I'd prefer a ball handler instead of Kelly but I'll defer to the staff.

I've actually been very pleased once the recruits actually play (Rahon for instance). We still need a PF

Odio has been pretty good as a backup.

Kelly can play a little PF


I'm fine with both of those assessments on the coaching side - Odio is definitely improved. I think eepstein's point is that while it is great that we can patchwork players behind Anderson and Clifford, it would nicer to just go recruit on that fits perfectly.


It would be nice to have some different looks to for different matchups.
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Re: Commits/Recruiting

Postby twballgame9 on Sun Nov 18, 2012 11:44 am

That said, I am also a fan of taking the best player available. I would prefer a coach take a talent he believes in that might be redundant over a player in whom he does not believe because he plays a position of need. So even though I think BC needs a PF desperately, if Kelly is good, take him. Good coaches can adjust, and the Dayton debacle notwithstanding, Don has proven he can coach.
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Re: Commits/Recruiting

Postby BCEagles25 on Sun Nov 18, 2012 2:40 pm

I think the only people capable of agreeing with the Owens - Haynes comparison are the dead, dumb, and blind. Owens is an offensive project. Marquez Haynes was 5th in the entire NCAA in scoring his senior year. It seems Garland Owens is a good defender and good athlete, and that may be the only way to compare the two.
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Re: Commits/Recruiting

Postby BCEaglesFan on Mon Nov 19, 2012 3:42 pm

Last year, Josh Hearlihy F 6'7" (Sherman Oaks, Calif./Northfield Mount Hermon) signed a letter of intent with Utah. By the time his senior year was over, he was a free man. An injury gave the Utes pause and then their head coach requested he sign a declassification letter. "At the time I was devastated," Hearlihy said. "But it's all worked out for the best. There are no hard feelings."

So, the Utes gambled that he would never recover and be healthy. It was the wrong call, but it was made. Everyone's moved on. Drake and Rice offered and Stanford and St. Bonaventure are watching the California native. Boston College is also looking at this intriguing frontcourt talent.
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Re: Commits/Recruiting

Postby Brablc on Mon Nov 19, 2012 6:06 pm

BCEaglesFan wrote:
Last year, Josh Hearlihy F 6'7" (Sherman Oaks, Calif./Northfield Mount Hermon) signed a letter of intent with Utah. By the time his senior year was over, he was a free man. An injury gave the Utes pause and then their head coach requested he sign a declassification letter. "At the time I was devastated," Hearlihy said. "But it's all worked out for the best. There are no hard feelings."

So, the Utes gambled that he would never recover and be healthy. It was the wrong call, but it was made. Everyone's moved on. Drake and Rice offered and Stanford and St. Bonaventure are watching the California native. Boston College is also looking at this intriguing frontcourt talent.


A recent article with a paragraph on him:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/h ... index.html
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