by HJS on Tue Dec 04, 2012 12:43 pm
DuchesneEast {l Wrote}:These are all the reasons I like Diaco. The only thing to hate is that he is another italian from North Jersey and I am a self hating guinea.
I think he will be a quality hire and that he has a long illustrious career here, he can be the anti-Frank Leahy, REVERSE THE CURSE.
by claver2010 on Tue Dec 04, 2012 12:44 pm
HJS {l Wrote}:I agree. Based on the timing of everything, I get the impression that BB has made his decision. Since Diaco was in yesterday, you have to assume that its him (or that he was at least the finalist and BB was convinced yesterday that the other guy is better). I assume that Golden has been stringing BC along and BC has told him that they are moving on (possibly giving him a deadline to say yes or no). They will get the "no thanks" from Golden and then they will finalize the contract and make the announcement tomorrow. I assume the name will leak at some point tonight. All that said... you never know what will happen in contract negotiations. What if Golden refuses to put a buyout in his contract or if Diaco says that he'll have a buyout but with a carve-out for Iowa? Things could fall apart quickly. I... like I assume most on the board... would feel a lot more comfortable with everything if Roman was the 3rd option (instead of Lembo and Kromer).
by DrJackRyan on Tue Dec 04, 2012 12:46 pm
HJS {l Wrote}:DuchesneEast {l Wrote}:These are all the reasons I like Diaco. The only thing to hate is that he is another italian from North Jersey and I am a self hating guinea.
I think he will be a quality hire and that he has a long illustrious career here, he can be the anti-Frank Leahy, REVERSE THE CURSE.
I don't understand how anyone could be disappointed in BC hiring a first time head coach who is an Italian, life-long Defensive Coordinator from Jersey who played for a legendary Big Ten coach.
by HJS on Tue Dec 04, 2012 12:48 pm
eagle9903 {l Wrote}:I kind of understand the Lembo hate, because his resume is pretty unspectacular, but why the Kromer hate? If you like or at least tolerate Sullivan or Carmichael, he's really not very far from those candidates at all.
by flyingelvii on Tue Dec 04, 2012 12:49 pm
HJS {l Wrote}:flyingelvii {l Wrote}:HJS {l Wrote}:twballgame9 {l Wrote}:Glad to see that HJS accurately predicted that he would be disappointed with the hire.
I would defend (like I did Jags and still do) if it is announced that the next coach is Golden, Roman, Diaco, PCJR, Sullivan. Lembo and Kroemer would disappoint. I'd give them a chance, but I'd probably be skeptical.
Didn't you hate PCJR like two weeks ago?
You can see my preferences for coaches here:
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by DavidGordonsFoot on Tue Dec 04, 2012 12:49 pm
eagle9903 {l Wrote}:I kind of understand the Lembo hate, because his resume is pretty unspectacular, but why the Kromer hate? If you like or at least tolerate Sullivan or Carmichael, he's really not very far from those candidates at all.
by eagle9903 on Tue Dec 04, 2012 12:51 pm
HJS {l Wrote}:eagle9903 {l Wrote}:I kind of understand the Lembo hate, because his resume is pretty unspectacular, but why the Kromer hate? If you like or at least tolerate Sullivan or Carmichael, he's really not very far from those candidates at all.
PCJR is a BC alum... and Sullivan is a Coughlin disciple. I think those two things hold powerful influence over our fans (understandably so). I also don't like that the only reason Kromer is a candidate is his connection with Bates. If he didn't previously have a connection with BB (he's a Miami Ohio grad and former coach), would he even have gotten a courtesy interview??? I'm guessing no. After a decade plus of GDF nepotism, I think such an out-of-left-field hire would be viewed skeptically... at least be viewed as another Jags (which initially was a positive).
by bcaddict on Tue Dec 04, 2012 12:52 pm
HJS {l Wrote}:bcaddict {l Wrote}:This job has always been and will be for the rest of today, Al Golden's to turn down. Expect a big hint on what he's thinking when he goes on Feldman's show today. Given the fact that he's even going on the show suggests to me that he's not leaving Miami as he would be put in the uncomfortable position of either shooting down rumors of his departure/sidestepping the question (and then agreeing to leave that day) or talking about the future of the Miami program in glowing terms (and agreeing to leave that day). If you're leaving, why go on the show?
Given the likelihood that Golden turns this down, it's Diaco's. if Diaco didn't want this job, he wouldn't have come in for a second interview with Leo and Leahy yesterday. The public turn down doesn't have the same optics when coming from the Coordinator position as it does from the HC. He wants this job.
80% Diaco.
15% Golden.
5% third person
I agree. Based on the timing of everything, I get the impression that BB has made his decision. Since Diaco was in yesterday, you have to assume that its him (or that he was at least the finalist and BB was convinced yesterday that the other guy is better). I assume that Golden has been stringing BC along and BC has told him that they are moving on (possibly giving him a deadline to say yes or no). They will get the "no thanks" from Golden and then they will finalize the contract and make the announcement tomorrow. I assume the name will leak at some point tonight. All that said... you never know what will happen in contract negotiations. What if Golden refuses to put a buyout in his contract or if Diaco says that he'll have a buyout but with a carve-out for Iowa? Things could fall apart quickly. I... like I assume most on the board... would feel a lot more comfortable with everything if Roman was the 3rd option (instead of Lembo and Kromer).
by flyingelvii on Tue Dec 04, 2012 12:52 pm
JesuitIvy {l Wrote}:ATL's saying this morning he heard Golden, Diaco and an unknown third person are the final three.
by HJS on Tue Dec 04, 2012 12:53 pm
DavidGordonsFoot {l Wrote}:eagle9903 {l Wrote}:I kind of understand the Lembo hate, because his resume is pretty unspectacular, but why the Kromer hate? If you like or at least tolerate Sullivan or Carmichael, he's really not very far from those candidates at all.
I'm only using nospacepedia as a reference, but it looks like Kromer has never been anything more than a position coach (I refuse to acknowledge his 6 week stint as interim head coach earlier this year). I'm not ready to hand over the reigns to a guy who hasn't even spent a season as a coordinator.
I'm not as down on Lembo as the rest of you. He wouldn't make a splash like Golden or Diaco, but I see a consistent record of turning teams around on his resume. Ball State was 4-8 prior to his arrival in 2010, 9-3 this year including a road win over a ranked team. Remember what those felt like? Yeah, me neither.
by eagle9903 on Tue Dec 04, 2012 12:56 pm
DavidGordonsFoot {l Wrote}:eagle9903 {l Wrote}:I kind of understand the Lembo hate, because his resume is pretty unspectacular, but why the Kromer hate? If you like or at least tolerate Sullivan or Carmichael, he's really not very far from those candidates at all.
I'm only using nospacepedia as a reference, but it looks like Kromer has never been anything more than a position coach (I refuse to acknowledge his 6 week stint as interim head coach earlier this year). I'm not ready to hand over the reigns to a guy who hasn't even spent a season as a coordinator.
I'm not as down on Lembo as the rest of you. He wouldn't make a splash like Golden or Diaco, but I see a consistent record of turning teams around on his resume. Ball State was 4-8 prior to his arrival in 2010, 9-3 this year including a road win over a ranked team. Remember what those felt like? Yeah, me neither.
by Endless Mike on Tue Dec 04, 2012 12:58 pm
by HJS on Tue Dec 04, 2012 12:58 pm
eagle9903 {l Wrote}:HJS {l Wrote}:eagle9903 {l Wrote}:I kind of understand the Lembo hate, because his resume is pretty unspectacular, but why the Kromer hate? If you like or at least tolerate Sullivan or Carmichael, he's really not very far from those candidates at all.
PCJR is a BC alum... and Sullivan is a Coughlin disciple. I think those two things hold powerful influence over our fans (understandably so). I also don't like that the only reason Kromer is a candidate is his connection with Bates. If he didn't previously have a connection with BB (he's a Miami Ohio grad and former coach), would he even have gotten a courtesy interview??? I'm guessing no. After a decade plus of GDF nepotism, I think such an out-of-left-field hire would be viewed skeptically... at least be viewed as another Jags (which initially was a positive).
So you are saying you would support Jim Turner for HC?
by DavidGordonsFoot on Tue Dec 04, 2012 1:01 pm
Endless Mike {l Wrote}:What is Golden making at Miami now? I searched for it but haven't been able to find a figure yet.
by HJS on Tue Dec 04, 2012 1:01 pm
Endless Mike {l Wrote}:What is Golden making at Miami now? I searched for it but haven't been able to find a figure yet.
by bcaddict on Tue Dec 04, 2012 1:02 pm
Endless Mike {l Wrote}:What is Golden making at Miami now? I searched for it but haven't been able to find a figure yet.
by Puerto Rico Eagle on Tue Dec 04, 2012 1:13 pm
by shockdoct on Tue Dec 04, 2012 1:13 pm
by ATLeagle on Tue Dec 04, 2012 1:14 pm
eagle9903 {l Wrote}:DavidGordonsFoot {l Wrote}:eagle9903 {l Wrote}:I kind of understand the Lembo hate, because his resume is pretty unspectacular, but why the Kromer hate? If you like or at least tolerate Sullivan or Carmichael, he's really not very far from those candidates at all.
I'm only using nospacepedia as a reference, but it looks like Kromer has never been anything more than a position coach (I refuse to acknowledge his 6 week stint as interim head coach earlier this year). I'm not ready to hand over the reigns to a guy who hasn't even spent a season as a coordinator.
I'm not as down on Lembo as the rest of you. He wouldn't make a splash like Golden or Diaco, but I see a consistent record of turning teams around on his resume. Ball State was 4-8 prior to his arrival in 2010, 9-3 this year including a road win over a ranked team. Remember what those felt like? Yeah, me neither.
Does it say anything (I really can't decide) that Kromer and not Carmichael was named interim? Was it because Carmichael had too many other important things to do, or because Kromer was a better CEO? I really have no idea.
Carmichael has college experience at La Tech and UNH and that's going back to the days of Huang and TRE transitiving in real time. Kromer was Butch Davis' OL coach for a year when the U was still a thing.
by Endless Mike on Tue Dec 04, 2012 1:16 pm
by HJS on Tue Dec 04, 2012 1:17 pm
shockdoct {l Wrote}:ESPN is claiming it is down to Diaco, Lembo, Kromer.
by shockdoct on Tue Dec 04, 2012 1:17 pm
ATLeagle {l Wrote}:eagle9903 {l Wrote}:DavidGordonsFoot {l Wrote}:eagle9903 {l Wrote}:I kind of understand the Lembo hate, because his resume is pretty unspectacular, but why the Kromer hate? If you like or at least tolerate Sullivan or Carmichael, he's really not very far from those candidates at all.
I'm only using nospacepedia as a reference, but it looks like Kromer has never been anything more than a position coach (I refuse to acknowledge his 6 week stint as interim head coach earlier this year). I'm not ready to hand over the reigns to a guy who hasn't even spent a season as a coordinator.
I'm not as down on Lembo as the rest of you. He wouldn't make a splash like Golden or Diaco, but I see a consistent record of turning teams around on his resume. Ball State was 4-8 prior to his arrival in 2010, 9-3 this year including a road win over a ranked team. Remember what those felt like? Yeah, me neither.
Does it say anything (I really can't decide) that Kromer and not Carmichael was named interim? Was it because Carmichael had too many other important things to do, or because Kromer was a better CEO? I really have no idea.
Carmichael has college experience at La Tech and UNH and that's going back to the days of Huang and TRE transitiving in real time. Kromer was Butch Davis' OL coach for a year when the U was still a thing.
Kromer wasn't at the U. He was at the other Miami. I would root for him, but I think he would be a bad choice for BC. Of all the NFL names mentioned, he is the least appealing. If Kromer is such a great choice, why didn't Bates hire him the three other times he was hiring football coaches at Kromer's Alma Mater -- Miami of Ohio?
by HJS on Tue Dec 04, 2012 1:20 pm
shockdoct {l Wrote}:This really looks like a "favor" by BB to put Kromer in the final 3 of an already made decision.
by HJS on Tue Dec 04, 2012 1:24 pm
by TobaccoRoadEagle on Tue Dec 04, 2012 1:31 pm
eagle9903 {l Wrote}:Carmichael has college experience at La Tech and UNH and that's going back to the days of Huang and TRE transitiving in real time. Kromer was Butch Davis' OL coach for a year when the U was still a thing.
by claver2010 on Tue Dec 04, 2012 1:31 pm
by bignick33 on Tue Dec 04, 2012 1:32 pm
HJS {l Wrote}:However, since this apparently was all leaked by the agents of these coaches and not the school, I'm reading way too much into this and need to start preparing for Superfanshirts with AK-47s on them... or a contemplating them warm reception the students will give Lembo upon hearing that a fellow nerd was hired.
by twballgame9 on Tue Dec 04, 2012 1:37 pm
by MilitantEagle on Tue Dec 04, 2012 1:42 pm
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:All that said, Meterparel has been saying Diaco for 24 hours. While he is a shitty play-by-play guy, he is the BC shitty play-by-play guy, and he seems to be fairly certain.
by MrAwesomeII on Tue Dec 04, 2012 1:42 pm
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