by commavegarage on Wed Mar 11, 2015 2:09 pm
jhiggi02 {l Wrote}:JesuitIvy {l Wrote}:jets gave up a 7th round draft pick for a guy who is a significant upgrade over Geno smith. I'll take it every day
Enjoy Fitzy, who flamed out in both buffalo and houston. Also, Chris Crane is a significant upgrade over Geno Smith
by twballgame9 on Wed Mar 11, 2015 2:16 pm
commavegarage {l Wrote}:im just waiting for more spin...its priceless
schefter tweets out yesterday that the jets are the favorites w the pats making one last run at him
then some guy in the boston media says the pats were actually out over the weekend and were trying to get the jets to bid against themselves.
ill take schefters word for it on that one
by commavegarage on Wed Mar 11, 2015 2:55 pm
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:commavegarage {l Wrote}:im just waiting for more spin...its priceless
schefter tweets out yesterday that the jets are the favorites w the pats making one last run at him
then some guy in the boston media says the pats were actually out over the weekend and were trying to get the jets to bid against themselves.
ill take schefters word for it on that one
There is simple no good spin on this for the Pats or the Jets. It's pretty terrible for both.
by twballgame9 on Wed Mar 11, 2015 3:39 pm
commavegarage {l Wrote}:twballgame9 {l Wrote}:commavegarage {l Wrote}:im just waiting for more spin...its priceless
schefter tweets out yesterday that the jets are the favorites w the pats making one last run at him
then some guy in the boston media says the pats were actually out over the weekend and were trying to get the jets to bid against themselves.
ill take schefters word for it on that one
There is simple no good spin on this for the Pats or the Jets. It's pretty terrible for both.
really isnt terrible for the jets. but keep telling yourself that
by twballgame9 on Wed Mar 11, 2015 3:40 pm
by commavegarage on Wed Mar 11, 2015 3:46 pm
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:Braylon, shall we make a bet on whether the Jets finish higher than third in the division for the 3 years Revis is in New Jersey?
by TobaccoRoadEagle on Wed Mar 11, 2015 3:55 pm
commavegarage {l Wrote}:twballgame9 {l Wrote}:Braylon, shall we make a bet on whether the Jets finish higher than third in the division for the 3 years Revis is in New Jersey?
shall we wager a gucci hat?
by twballgame9 on Wed Mar 11, 2015 5:10 pm
With both a hard salary cap and salary floor, an NFL team doesn’t win by paying players exactly what they’re worth — it wins by paying them far less than they’re worth.
by JesuitIvy on Wed Mar 11, 2015 6:16 pm
by DomingoOrtiz on Wed Mar 11, 2015 6:26 pm
jhiggi02 {l Wrote}:JesuitIvy {l Wrote}:I will reiterate. A 7th rd pick for a reasonable upgrade at qb is a nice move. Only Pats weirdos who insistvevery 7th Rd pick Belicheck makes is a sign of his genius would think otherwise.
The move itself isn't a bad one. However, considering that Fitzy will be your QB after all of the $$ you guys spent, it's a joke; a bandaid covering a severed limb.
by commavegarage on Wed Mar 11, 2015 6:36 pm
jhiggi02 {l Wrote}:JesuitIvy {l Wrote}:I will reiterate. A 7th rd pick for a reasonable upgrade at qb is a nice move. Only Pats weirdos who insistvevery 7th Rd pick Belicheck makes is a sign of his genius would think otherwise.
The move itself isn't a bad one. However, assuming Fitzy will be your QB after all of the $$ you guys spent and moves you made, it's a joke; a bandaid covering a severed limb.
by commavegarage on Wed Mar 11, 2015 6:40 pm
by DomingoOrtiz on Wed Mar 11, 2015 6:45 pm
commavegarage {l Wrote}:this "don't spend money on premium players if you don't have a top qb" is logic straight out of costco. so i assume the texans shouldn't have paid for JJ Watt? browns shouldn't pay joe haden?
by twballgame9 on Wed Mar 11, 2015 6:45 pm
DomingoOrtiz {l Wrote}:jhiggi02 {l Wrote}:JesuitIvy {l Wrote}:I will reiterate. A 7th rd pick for a reasonable upgrade at qb is a nice move. Only Pats weirdos who insistvevery 7th Rd pick Belicheck makes is a sign of his genius would think otherwise.
The move itself isn't a bad one. However, considering that Fitzy will be your QB after all of the $$ you guys spent, it's a joke; a bandaid covering a severed limb.
Getting their starting QB for a 7th round pick was a good move for the JETS. Spending that kind of $ for a CB when your QB is Fitzy is dumb.
by twballgame9 on Wed Mar 11, 2015 6:47 pm
commavegarage {l Wrote}:this "don't spend money on premium players if you don't have a top qb" is logic straight out of costco. so i assume the texans shouldn't have paid for JJ Watt? browns shouldn't pay joe haden?
by commavegarage on Wed Mar 11, 2015 6:50 pm
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:commavegarage {l Wrote}:this "don't spend money on premium players if you don't have a top qb" is logic straight out of costco. so i assume the texans shouldn't have paid for JJ Watt? browns shouldn't pay joe haden?
QB league. Facts of life.
That said, CB is different that DL. The Haden comparison is a fair one. Congrats, you emulated the Browns.
by commavegarage on Wed Mar 11, 2015 6:53 pm
by commavegarage on Wed Mar 11, 2015 6:53 pm
jhiggi02 {l Wrote}:twballgame9 {l Wrote}:commavegarage {l Wrote}:this "don't spend money on premium players if you don't have a top qb" is logic straight out of costco. so i assume the texans shouldn't have paid for JJ Watt? browns shouldn't pay joe haden?
QB league. Facts of life.
That said, CB is different that DL. The Haden comparison is a fair one. Congrats, you emulated the Browns.
Pash rushing lb as well as DL
by twballgame9 on Wed Mar 11, 2015 6:54 pm
commavegarage {l Wrote}:twballgame9 {l Wrote}:commavegarage {l Wrote}:this "don't spend money on premium players if you don't have a top qb" is logic straight out of costco. so i assume the texans shouldn't have paid for JJ Watt? browns shouldn't pay joe haden?
QB league. Facts of life.
That said, CB is different that DL. The Haden comparison is a fair one. Congrats, you emulated the Browns.
nobody denies its a qb league. that doesn't mean you sit around and just tank til one comes to you.
that said, I'm sure you were just as critical of the moves the jets made in the run up to two championship game runs seeing as they had no qb then either.
by commavegarage on Wed Mar 11, 2015 6:57 pm
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:commavegarage {l Wrote}:twballgame9 {l Wrote}:commavegarage {l Wrote}:this "don't spend money on premium players if you don't have a top qb" is logic straight out of costco. so i assume the texans shouldn't have paid for JJ Watt? browns shouldn't pay joe haden?
QB league. Facts of life.
That said, CB is different that DL. The Haden comparison is a fair one. Congrats, you emulated the Browns.
nobody denies its a qb league. that doesn't mean you sit around and just tank til one comes to you.
that said, I'm sure you were just as critical of the moves the jets made in the run up to two championship game runs seeing as they had no qb then either.
It makes it that much harder to find one when you use the QB money on a CB. Elite corners make the difference between AFCCG and the SB. They aren't going to pull a team out of last. They just don't have enough involvement in the game.
by twballgame9 on Wed Mar 11, 2015 6:58 pm
commavegarage {l Wrote}:patriots fans (especially the higgi type) are the best
by commavegarage on Wed Mar 11, 2015 6:59 pm
by twballgame9 on Wed Mar 11, 2015 6:59 pm
commavegarage {l Wrote}:jhiggi02 {l Wrote}:twballgame9 {l Wrote}:commavegarage {l Wrote}:this "don't spend money on premium players if you don't have a top qb" is logic straight out of costco. so i assume the texans shouldn't have paid for JJ Watt? browns shouldn't pay joe haden?
QB league. Facts of life.
That said, CB is different that DL. The Haden comparison is a fair one. Congrats, you emulated the Browns.
Pash rushing lb as well as DL
so the seahawks shouldn't spend on sherman thomas and chancellor?
by commavegarage on Wed Mar 11, 2015 7:01 pm
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:commavegarage {l Wrote}:jhiggi02 {l Wrote}:twballgame9 {l Wrote}:commavegarage {l Wrote}:this "don't spend money on premium players if you don't have a top qb" is logic straight out of costco. so i assume the texans shouldn't have paid for JJ Watt? browns shouldn't pay joe haden?
QB league. Facts of life.
That said, CB is different that DL. The Haden comparison is a fair one. Congrats, you emulated the Browns.
Pash rushing lb as well as DL
so the seahawks shouldn't spend on sherman thomas and chancellor?
Their QB is above average.
by commavegarage on Wed Mar 11, 2015 7:02 pm
jhiggi02 {l Wrote}:twballgame9 {l Wrote}:commavegarage {l Wrote}:jhiggi02 {l Wrote}:twballgame9 {l Wrote}:commavegarage {l Wrote}:this "don't spend money on premium players if you don't have a top qb" is logic straight out of costco. so i assume the texans shouldn't have paid for JJ Watt? browns shouldn't pay joe haden?
QB league. Facts of life.
That said, CB is different that DL. The Haden comparison is a fair one. Congrats, you emulated the Browns.
Pash rushing lb as well as DL
so the seahawks shouldn't spend on sherman thomas and chancellor?
Their QB is above average.
Yes, he fits their run heavy system well with the read option.
by twballgame9 on Wed Mar 11, 2015 7:03 pm
commavegarage {l Wrote}:twballgame9 {l Wrote}:commavegarage {l Wrote}:twballgame9 {l Wrote}:commavegarage {l Wrote}:this "don't spend money on premium players if you don't have a top qb" is logic straight out of costco. so i assume the texans shouldn't have paid for JJ Watt? browns shouldn't pay joe haden?
QB league. Facts of life.
That said, CB is different that DL. The Haden comparison is a fair one. Congrats, you emulated the Browns.
nobody denies its a qb league. that doesn't mean you sit around and just tank til one comes to you.
that said, I'm sure you were just as critical of the moves the jets made in the run up to two championship game runs seeing as they had no qb then either.
It makes it that much harder to find one when you use the QB money on a CB. Elite corners make the difference between AFCCG and the SB. They aren't going to pull a team out of last. They just don't have enough involvement in the game.
am i missing the qb thats out there waiting for the jets to scoop up?
if its drew brees, why are / would the jets be the only team pursuing him? surely oakland would love him.
franchise qb's are found in the draft. and they're on the rookie wage scale. so having minimal cap doesn't matter (see seattle). you'd have to go back years to find the last top 10 qb that changed teams while he still had talent (outside of manning). even then with manning, you've got 1 qb and 8-12 teams vying for him. 12% chance at best.
ill take my chances on stacking my team and then hoping to have a franchise qb fall into my lap in the draft. thats pretty much been the formula for any and all successful teams the last 15 years.
by twballgame9 on Wed Mar 11, 2015 7:07 pm
by commavegarage on Wed Mar 11, 2015 7:08 pm
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:commavegarage {l Wrote}:twballgame9 {l Wrote}:commavegarage {l Wrote}:twballgame9 {l Wrote}:commavegarage {l Wrote}:this "don't spend money on premium players if you don't have a top qb" is logic straight out of costco. so i assume the texans shouldn't have paid for JJ Watt? browns shouldn't pay joe haden?
QB league. Facts of life.
That said, CB is different that DL. The Haden comparison is a fair one. Congrats, you emulated the Browns.
nobody denies its a qb league. that doesn't mean you sit around and just tank til one comes to you.
that said, I'm sure you were just as critical of the moves the jets made in the run up to two championship game runs seeing as they had no qb then either.
It makes it that much harder to find one when you use the QB money on a CB. Elite corners make the difference between AFCCG and the SB. They aren't going to pull a team out of last. They just don't have enough involvement in the game.
am i missing the qb thats out there waiting for the jets to scoop up?
if its drew brees, why are / would the jets be the only team pursuing him? surely oakland would love him.
franchise qb's are found in the draft. and they're on the rookie wage scale. so having minimal cap doesn't matter (see seattle). you'd have to go back years to find the last top 10 qb that changed teams while he still had talent (outside of manning). even then with manning, you've got 1 qb and 8-12 teams vying for him. 12% chance at best.
ill take my chances on stacking my team and then hoping to have a franchise qb fall into my lap in the draft. thats pretty much been the formula for any and all successful teams the last 15 years.
Good luck. It usually works the other way around - stack the team after you suck enough to get the franchise QB. See Aikman, Manning, Luck, Elway, Marino. Even Brees and Rivers and Ryan were early picks on bad teams. Rodgers, Romo, Brady and the other accidents are special cases. Flacco is somewhere in between. Stacking your team before you get the QB means you will be just good enough to not get the QB in the draft.
by twballgame9 on Wed Mar 11, 2015 7:10 pm
commavegarage {l Wrote}:twballgame9 {l Wrote}:commavegarage {l Wrote}:twballgame9 {l Wrote}:commavegarage {l Wrote}:twballgame9 {l Wrote}:commavegarage {l Wrote}:this "don't spend money on premium players if you don't have a top qb" is logic straight out of costco. so i assume the texans shouldn't have paid for JJ Watt? browns shouldn't pay joe haden?
QB league. Facts of life.
That said, CB is different that DL. The Haden comparison is a fair one. Congrats, you emulated the Browns.
nobody denies its a qb league. that doesn't mean you sit around and just tank til one comes to you.
that said, I'm sure you were just as critical of the moves the jets made in the run up to two championship game runs seeing as they had no qb then either.
It makes it that much harder to find one when you use the QB money on a CB. Elite corners make the difference between AFCCG and the SB. They aren't going to pull a team out of last. They just don't have enough involvement in the game.
am i missing the qb thats out there waiting for the jets to scoop up?
if its drew brees, why are / would the jets be the only team pursuing him? surely oakland would love him.
franchise qb's are found in the draft. and they're on the rookie wage scale. so having minimal cap doesn't matter (see seattle). you'd have to go back years to find the last top 10 qb that changed teams while he still had talent (outside of manning). even then with manning, you've got 1 qb and 8-12 teams vying for him. 12% chance at best.
ill take my chances on stacking my team and then hoping to have a franchise qb fall into my lap in the draft. thats pretty much been the formula for any and all successful teams the last 15 years.
Good luck. It usually works the other way around - stack the team after you suck enough to get the franchise QB. See Aikman, Manning, Luck, Elway, Marino. Even Brees and Rivers and Ryan were early picks on bad teams. Rodgers, Romo, Brady and the other accidents are special cases. Flacco is somewhere in between. Stacking your team before you get the QB means you will be just good enough to not get the QB in the draft.
so 15ish teams should do absolutely nothing but tank every year and hope the top third qb is 1 that is identified when he comes out as a top 3 pick as opposed to the 9 of the top 12 current top 12 qb's who were not top 3 picks AND there the year you have the top 3 pick.
got it.
by commavegarage on Wed Mar 11, 2015 7:13 pm
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