McShay on Montel

by **claver2010** on Mon Nov 01, 2010 10:56 am

2. Boston College RB Montel Harris
It's not easy to garner national attention when playing for a disappointing Boston College team, but Harris earned some love this week for the role he played in the Eagles' 16-10 upset of Clemson. The 5-foot-10, 197-pound junior accounted for 36 of Boston College's 42 rushing attempts in a win that snapped a five-game losing streak, finishing with 142 rushing yards and a 36-yard touchdown catch. Harris may never be a full-time starter in the NFL but he is earning the respect of NFL scouts this fall with his toughness and versatility, which should earn him a spot in the middle rounds of the draft.

http://insider.espn.go.com/ncf/insider/columns/story?columnist=mcshay_todd&id=5751649

by **branchinator** on Mon Nov 01, 2010 11:14 am

Harris is great but he doesn't seem like an NFL player to me. He's small but not particularly fast so I'm not sure where he fits in most offenses but hopefully he gets a shot somewhere.

by **HJS** on Mon Nov 01, 2010 11:37 am

I actually disagree. I think Montel, if in the right system, will be a very good back. Many systems require a RB to have vision and cutting ability... not flat-out speed. Emmit Smith was slow as hell... but was perfect for the Cowboys system... same with Terrell Davis. LT is twice as slow as Shon Greene for the Jets, but LT is the better back.

by **innocentbystander** on Mon Nov 01, 2010 11:54 am

I hope he makes it in the NFL, but I fear he will not.

by **HJS** on Mon Nov 01, 2010 11:55 am

innocentbystander {l Wrote}:I hope he makes it in the NFL, but I fear he will not.

DON'T BE AFRAID!!!

by **b0mberMan** on Mon Nov 01, 2010 11:58 am

The Raycom guys called him Montel Williams at one point during the game.

by **chuckiedukes** on Mon Nov 01, 2010 12:00 pm

There's always a place in the NFL for a RB with great vision, balance, strength and escapability. Look no further than Ahmad Bradshaw, the NFL's leading rusher. He ran a 4.6 at the combine.

Montel may not get drafted high -- or at all -- but he will play on Sundays.

by **31southst** on Mon Nov 01, 2010 12:01 pm

chuckiedukes {l Wrote}:There's always a place in the NFL for a RB with great vision, balance, strength and escapability. Look no further than Ahmad Bradshaw, the NFL's leading rusher. He ran a 4.6 at the combine.

Montel may not get drafted high -- or at all -- but he will play on Sundays.

I completely agree. The only problem is I honestly have no idea what Montel will run. If he's 4.6 or under I think he'll find a place. I can't rule out him running something like a 4.7-4.8 and then I don't know.

by **twballgame9** on Mon Nov 01, 2010 12:01 pm

He's not getting drafted. He might have a Mike Cloud career because he is a hard worker.

by **bignick33** on Mon Nov 01, 2010 12:03 pm

twballgame9 {l Wrote}:He's not getting drafted. He might have a Mike Cloud career because he is a hard worker.

Probably true. I sure hope he succeeds though.

by **commavegarage** on Mon Nov 01, 2010 12:12 pm

HJS {l Wrote}:LT is twice as slow as Shon Greene for the Jets.

That is 100% false.

by **pick6pedro** on Mon Nov 01, 2010 12:14 pm

commavegarage {l Wrote}:
HJS {l Wrote}:LT is twice as slow as Shon Greene for the Jets.

That is 100% false.

You mean LT doesn't run a 9 second 40?

by **bignick33** on Mon Nov 01, 2010 12:16 pm

pick6pedro {l Wrote}:
commavegarage {l Wrote}:
HJS {l Wrote}:LT is twice as slow as Shon Greene for the Jets.

That is 100% false.

You mean LT doesn't run a 9 second 40?

by **commavegarage** on Mon Nov 01, 2010 12:17 pm

pick6pedro {l Wrote}:
commavegarage {l Wrote}:
HJS {l Wrote}:LT is twice as slow as Shon Greene for the Jets.

That is 100% false.

You mean LT doesn't run a 9 second 40?

Have you seen the two play this year?

by **b0mberMan** on Mon Nov 01, 2010 12:18 pm

Haha, Baldwinjr gets so worked up over the Jets. He can't even see that pedro is agreeing with him. Adorable.

by **2001Eagle** on Mon Nov 01, 2010 12:26 pm

31southst {l Wrote}:
chuckiedukes {l Wrote}:There's always a place in the NFL for a RB with great vision, balance, strength and escapability. Look no further than Ahmad Bradshaw, the NFL's leading rusher. He ran a 4.6 at the combine.

Montel may not get drafted high -- or at all -- but he will play on Sundays.

I completely agree. The only problem is I honestly have no idea what Montel will run. If he's 4.6 or under I think he'll find a place. I can't rule out him running something like a 4.7-4.8 and then I don't know.

The broadcasters said yesterday that Ryan Torain runs a 4.71 and he's a quality NFL back. I think if a back has good enough vision he can run in the NFL without an excellent 40 time, but it may be that there are plenty of guys with vision who also have good 40 times.

by **bignick33** on Mon Nov 01, 2010 12:29 pm

The problem with Montel is that he lacks literally every measurable that GMs covet. We've seen over the last three years that he's a great back, and I have no doubt that he would succeed in the right NFL system, but I have a hard time seeing NFL GMs recognizing that without watching him extensively as we have.

by **pick6pedro** on Mon Nov 01, 2010 12:33 pm

commavegarage {l Wrote}:
pick6pedro {l Wrote}:
commavegarage {l Wrote}:
HJS {l Wrote}:LT is twice as slow as Shon Greene for the Jets.

That is 100% false.

You mean LT doesn't run a 9 second 40?

Have you seen the two play this year?

Yes. Yes I have. Do you ever not have that giant plunger in your anus?

by **HJS** on Mon Nov 01, 2010 12:46 pm

Wow... I can crap on BC, but the second I make a mistake regarding the back-up RBs for the Jets, I am crucified. I was originally going to use Leon Washington as the example, but then I remember he was traded in the offseason. I meant to use Joe McKnight as the example. I also have a mental block when it comes to Greene. I have trouble thinking of him as a big back as I always remember him as a smaller/average-sized back when he was coming out of Atco.

by **branchinator** on Mon Nov 01, 2010 1:22 pm

2001Eagle {l Wrote}:
31southst {l Wrote}:
chuckiedukes {l Wrote}:There's always a place in the NFL for a RB with great vision, balance, strength and escapability. Look no further than Ahmad Bradshaw, the NFL's leading rusher. He ran a 4.6 at the combine.

Montel may not get drafted high -- or at all -- but he will play on Sundays.

I completely agree. The only problem is I honestly have no idea what Montel will run. If he's 4.6 or under I think he'll find a place. I can't rule out him running something like a 4.7-4.8 and then I don't know.

The broadcasters said yesterday that Ryan Torain runs a 4.71 and he's a quality NFL back. I think if a back has good enough vision he can run in the NFL without an excellent 40 time, but it may be that there are plenty of guys with vision who also have good 40 times.

Ryan Torain is like 230 pounds. He's purely a power back so a 4.7 isn't as big of a deal. Harris is small by NFL standards but doesn't have great speed so that hurts him as a 3rd down back. However, I bet a team that runs zone blocking would potentially be interested in him.

by **branchinator** on Mon Nov 01, 2010 1:25 pm

commavegarage {l Wrote}:
pick6pedro {l Wrote}:
commavegarage {l Wrote}:
HJS {l Wrote}:LT is twice as slow as Shon Greene for the Jets.

That is 100% false.

You mean LT doesn't run a 9 second 40?

Have you seen the two play this year?

Did you ever stop to think that maybe Pedro was only watching the Red Zone channel yesterday and, thus, wasn't able to see ANY of the Jets' RBs...

by **cvilleagle** on Mon Nov 01, 2010 1:27 pm

branchinator {l Wrote}:
commavegarage {l Wrote}:
pick6pedro {l Wrote}:
commavegarage {l Wrote}:
HJS {l Wrote}:LT is twice as slow as Shon Greene for the Jets.

That is 100% false.

You mean LT doesn't run a 9 second 40?

Have you seen the two play this year?

Did you ever stop to think that maybe Pedro was only watching the Red Zone channel yesterday and, thus, wasn't able to see ANY of the Jets' RBs...

Mark Sanchez is really getting it together this year. He's going to be a superstar, and the Jets are the best team in their division.

by **twballgame9** on Mon Nov 01, 2010 1:29 pm

cvilleagle {l Wrote}:
branchinator {l Wrote}:
commavegarage {l Wrote}:
pick6pedro {l Wrote}:
commavegarage {l Wrote}:
HJS {l Wrote}:LT is twice as slow as Shon Greene for the Jets.

That is 100% false.

You mean LT doesn't run a 9 second 40?

Have you seen the two play this year?

Did you ever stop to think that maybe Pedro was only watching the Red Zone channel yesterday and, thus, wasn't able to see ANY of the Jets' RBs...

Mark Sanchez is really getting it together this year. He's going to be a superstar, and the Jets are the best team in their division.

Yes, and Braylon Edwards = Randy Moss.

by **pick6pedro** on Mon Nov 01, 2010 1:30 pm

SURE BUT HOW MANY JETS GAMES HAVE YOU WATCHED!?!?!?!?!?!

by **cvilleagle** on Mon Nov 01, 2010 1:30 pm

twballgame9 {l Wrote}:
cvilleagle {l Wrote}:
branchinator {l Wrote}:
commavegarage {l Wrote}:
pick6pedro {l Wrote}:
commavegarage {l Wrote}:
HJS {l Wrote}:LT is twice as slow as Shon Greene for the Jets.

That is 100% false.

You mean LT doesn't run a 9 second 40?

Have you seen the two play this year?

Did you ever stop to think that maybe Pedro was only watching the Red Zone channel yesterday and, thus, wasn't able to see ANY of the Jets' RBs...

Mark Sanchez is really getting it together this year. He's going to be a superstar, and the Jets are the best team in their division.

Yes, and Braylon Edwards = Randy Moss.

Braylon Edwards is like a Randy Moss who can't catch and kind of sucks at running routes.

by **2001Eagle** on Mon Nov 01, 2010 1:39 pm

branchinator {l Wrote}:
2001Eagle {l Wrote}:
31southst {l Wrote}:
chuckiedukes {l Wrote}:There's always a place in the NFL for a RB with great vision, balance, strength and escapability. Look no further than Ahmad Bradshaw, the NFL's leading rusher. He ran a 4.6 at the combine.

Montel may not get drafted high -- or at all -- but he will play on Sundays.

I completely agree. The only problem is I honestly have no idea what Montel will run. If he's 4.6 or under I think he'll find a place. I can't rule out him running something like a 4.7-4.8 and then I don't know.

The broadcasters said yesterday that Ryan Torain runs a 4.71 and he's a quality NFL back. I think if a back has good enough vision he can run in the NFL without an excellent 40 time, but it may be that there are plenty of guys with vision who also have good 40 times.

Ryan Torain is like 230 pounds. He's purely a power back so a 4.7 isn't as big of a deal. Harris is small by NFL standards but doesn't have great speed so that hurts him as a 3rd down back. However, I bet a team that runs zone blocking would potentially be interested in him.

NFL website lists him as 6'1" and 212 lbs.

http://www.nfl.com/players/ryantorain/profile?id=TOR105154

Never let facts get in the way.

by **b0mberMan** on Mon Nov 01, 2010 1:44 pm

cvilleagle {l Wrote}:
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:
cvilleagle {l Wrote}:
branchinator {l Wrote}:
commavegarage {l Wrote}:
pick6pedro {l Wrote}:
commavegarage {l Wrote}:
HJS {l Wrote}:LT is twice as slow as Shon Greene for the Jets.

That is 100% false.

You mean LT doesn't run a 9 second 40?

Have you seen the two play this year?

Did you ever stop to think that maybe Pedro was only watching the Red Zone channel yesterday and, thus, wasn't able to see ANY of the Jets' RBs...

Mark Sanchez is really getting it together this year. He's going to be a superstar, and the Jets are the best team in their division.

Yes, and Braylon Edwards = Randy Moss.

Braylon Edwards is like a Randy Moss who can't catch and kind of sucks at running routes.

And drives drunk instead of high

by **BC923** on Mon Nov 01, 2010 2:02 pm

2001Eagle {l Wrote}:
branchinator {l Wrote}:
2001Eagle {l Wrote}:
31southst {l Wrote}:
chuckiedukes {l Wrote}:There's always a place in the NFL for a RB with great vision, balance, strength and escapability. Look no further than Ahmad Bradshaw, the NFL's leading rusher. He ran a 4.6 at the combine.

Montel may not get drafted high -- or at all -- but he will play on Sundays.

I completely agree. The only problem is I honestly have no idea what Montel will run. If he's 4.6 or under I think he'll find a place. I can't rule out him running something like a 4.7-4.8 and then I don't know.

The broadcasters said yesterday that Ryan Torain runs a 4.71 and he's a quality NFL back. I think if a back has good enough vision he can run in the NFL without an excellent 40 time, but it may be that there are plenty of guys with vision who also have good 40 times.

Ryan Torain is like 230 pounds. He's purely a power back so a 4.7 isn't as big of a deal. Harris is small by NFL standards but doesn't have great speed so that hurts him as a 3rd down back. However, I bet a team that runs zone blocking would potentially be interested in him.

NFL website lists him as 6'1" and 212 lbs.

http://www.nfl.com/players/ryantorain/profile?id=TOR105154

Never let facts get in the way.

6'1 212 is just about the same build as Montel's 5'10 200. I think that Montel will fit in somewhere in the late rounds because of his college production. I think he's a guy that if given the touches will work himself extremely hard to succeed. I don't think he'll be a number 1 back but i think he could be of use to a lot of teams.

by **b0mberMan** on Mon Nov 01, 2010 2:09 pm

b0mberMan {l Wrote}:
cvilleagle {l Wrote}:
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:
cvilleagle {l Wrote}:
branchinator {l Wrote}:
commavegarage {l Wrote}:
pick6pedro {l Wrote}:
commavegarage {l Wrote}:
HJS {l Wrote}:LT is twice as slow as Shon Greene for the Jets.

That is 100% false.

You mean LT doesn't run a 9 second 40?

Have you seen the two play this year?

Did you ever stop to think that maybe Pedro was only watching the Red Zone channel yesterday and, thus, wasn't able to see ANY of the Jets' RBs...

Mark Sanchez is really getting it together this year. He's going to be a superstar, and the Jets are the best team in their division.

Yes, and Braylon Edwards = Randy Moss.

Braylon Edwards is like a Randy Moss who can't catch and kind of sucks at running routes.

And drives drunk instead of high

And also, Braylon Edwards is like a Randy Moss that is still on an NFL team.

by **Endless Mike** on Mon Nov 01, 2010 2:14 pm

b0mberMan {l Wrote}:
b0mberMan {l Wrote}:
cvilleagle {l Wrote}:
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:
cvilleagle {l Wrote}:
branchinator {l Wrote}:
commavegarage {l Wrote}:
pick6pedro {l Wrote}:
commavegarage {l Wrote}:
HJS {l Wrote}:LT is twice as slow as Shon Greene for the Jets.

That is 100% false.

You mean LT doesn't run a 9 second 40?

Have you seen the two play this year?

Did you ever stop to think that maybe Pedro was only watching the Red Zone channel yesterday and, thus, wasn't able to see ANY of the Jets' RBs...

Mark Sanchez is really getting it together this year. He's going to be a superstar, and the Jets are the best team in their division.

Yes, and Braylon Edwards = Randy Moss.

Braylon Edwards is like a Randy Moss who can't catch and kind of sucks at running routes.

And drives drunk instead of high

And also, Braylon Edwards is like a Randy Moss that is still on an NFL team.

Please stay on topic, bummer.

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