Chlebek questions for the oldtimers

[ATLeagle]

How did we end up with him?
Would 78 have been a terrible year regardless of the coach?
Why did it end when he seemed to turn the corner with e 7-4 season?

[Saveagle]

He promised we could be like Notre Dame. Seriously. That's what got him hired. 78 would have been average without him, certainly not the clusterfuck of 0-11. He tried to install the veer without the proper personnel and it failed miserably, but perversely the failure was fun to watch. It was a total disaster. I think he left becuase he realized he was in over his head and he wanted to retreat to the MAC or whatever it was called then. Good times losing to Holy Cross and Temple.

[1981Eagle]

That explanation is very accurate. Plus, his game-management skills make Jack Bick Sr. look like Tom Coughlin.

[HJS]

Methinks that Blog Boy is looking at who the current holder of the "BC coaching FAIL" title and what Spaz has to do to steal it.

[twballgame9]

Ouch. I smell ATL writing a Spaz/Chlebek comparison column.

[h2o]

I believe he recruited the immortal Shelby Gamble.

[holycross87]

Speaking as a Holy Cross alumnus, I feel it's high time to bring back Coach Chlebek.

[DavidGordonsFoot]

Blogboy researching a Spaz vs Chlebek column. This is encouraging.

[twballgame9]

Speaking as a Holy Cross alumnus, I feel it's high time to bring back Coach Chlebek.

Is this 1981Eagle, or some unfunny imitator?

[Prof. Andrew Buni]

For a sense of the Chlebek era, check out Reid Oslin's book. I believe the title is "Tales from the BC Sideline".

Not exactly an expose', as Reid was a loyal company guy to an extent, but he is fairly objective re: Chlebek being over his head, as I recall.

[hansen]

My favorite Chlebek story-- when Temple beat BC in the Mirage Bowl in Tokyo to seal the 0 and 11 year in 78, the game was played at around midnight- 3:00 AM Boston time, meaning it ended on Sunday morning. That Sunday night, the lines were lit up on Eddie Andelman's Sports Huddle to slam Chlebek and BC. Andelman called Chlebek's home and his wife said they didn't come right home-- they were still in Japan. She joked that when he got home she needed bread and milk. So Andelman made a call to the hotel where BC was staying (it was now after midnight Tokyo time) asking to speak to the American football coach, Chlebek. No one at the desk spoke English, and neither Eddie, Mark, or Jim had any Japanese, so they just kept shouting at each other louder and louder over the phone. Finally, someone figured out what Andelmen wanted, but for some reason, instead of transferring the call to Chlebek's room the dragged him out of bed to the front desk in his pajamas. Chlebek sleepily and confusedly said "Hello?" and Andelman said "This is Eddie Andelman, Jim McCarthy, and Mark Witkin from the Sunday night Sports Huddle. I just wanted to let you know that your wife wants you to pick up a loaf of bread and a half gallon of milk on the way home."

Chlebek never "got" Boston. He didn't think that Mr Flynn or Mr Carroll could be trusted, he thought that Barry Gallup was their spy, and he thought that the alumni and the press were out to get him. He was a typical midwestern naive hick.

how did BC get to a bowl game if they were 0-10?

[angrychicken]

Wasn't 81 looking for nude photos of Chlebek on EI?

[shockdoct]

Speaking as a Holy Cross alumnus, I feel it's high time to bring back Coach Chlebek.

Is this 1981Eagle, or some unfunny imitator?

Unless 81Eagle is a super hacker..not the same.

[1981Eagle]

Speaking as a Holy Cross alumnus, I feel it's high time to bring back Coach Chlebek.

Is this 1981Eagle, or some unfunny imitator?

In another thread I suggested that 81 contribute something to this thread. I guess this is his contribution. He claims to have been some sort of locker room laundry collector or waterboy under Chlebek, you know.

HC is not me. I was a Fball manager for that 0-11 season AND because I was the junior manager on the staff being only a sophomore, I didn't even get to go to the Mirage Bowl in Tokyo. Not only was Chlebek a bad coach but he was a major Ahole to boot. The players were good guys. In particular Jay Palazola was a very funny guy. Does anyone remember the Pep rally before the first home game? It was held in front of Gasson at about 8pm the night before the game. It was widely advertised and the BC band made a run through all the Upper Campus dorms playing "For Boston". Alas, only about 50 fans turned up at Gasson. There were more players, coaches, band and cheerleaders by a factor or 5. Sad. I think there are more avid fans among the BC students today. Back then, it was pathetic. Some/Many/Most (for Talon) students did not even know when we had home football games as late as an hour before the game. Then, they would only go if there was nothing better--like studying--to do. Disgustiad.

[BCEagle74]

Cheblek rhymed with Trebek, that was it.

[1981Eagle]

Speaking as a Holy Cross alumnus, I feel it's high time to bring back Coach Chlebek.

Is this 1981Eagle, or some unfunny imitator?

In another thread I suggested that 81 contribute something to this thread. I guess this is his contribution. He claims to have been some sort of locker room laundry collector or waterboy under Chlebek, you know.

HC is not me. I was a Fball manager for that 0-11 season AND because I was the junior manager on the staff being only a sophomore, I didn't even get to go to the Mirage Bowl in Tokyo. Not only was Chlebek a bad coach but he was a major Ahole to boot. The players were good guys. In particyular Jay Palazola was a very funny guy. Does anyone remember the Pep rally before the first home game? It was held in front of Gasson at about 8pm the night before the game. It was widely advertised and the BC band made a run through all the Upper Campus dorms playing "For Boston". Alas, only about 50 fans turned up at Gasson. There were more players, coaches, band and cheerleaders by a factor or 5. Sad. I think there are more avid fans among the BC students today. Back then, it was pathetic. Some/Many/Most (for Talon) students did not even know when we had home football games as late as an hour before the game. Then, they would only go if there was nothing better--like studying--to do. Disgustiad.

Can you scan a team picture with you in it and post it here? That would be cool.

Don't have one. Besides, only the Senior Manager was in the photo. Low-level plebes like me weren't in it. Not enough room. Barry Gallup is one nice guy. Talk about a fanatic. This guy bleeds BC. One of my jobs was to take care the opposing team accomodations etc. over at the old Hojo's over the Mass Pike. Is it still there? Next spring, I will be taking my son to BC. It will be my first time on campus since 1986. Looking forward to it. EDIT: After leaving BC, Chlebek was fired after his second year at Kent St, another 0-11 disaster. Ed Effin Chlebek, what a disaster.

[gallopingghost]

I heard during the ND Michigan game that Gallup's son is now playing for ND. Is that true?

[holycross87]

HC absolutely stole the game in '78. BC had something like 400 total yards to HC's 180, yet still found a way to lose.

HC almost beat Chlebek in '79 too...very close 13-10 BC win at Fitton.

[1981Eagle]

HC absolutely stole the game in '78. BC had something like 400 total yards to HC's 180, yet still found a way to lose.

HC almost beat Chlebek in '79 too...very close 13-10 BC win at Fitton.

I remember the HC game well. Pete Columbo from Brockton played QB for HC. I think he is now head Fball coach at Brockton following his legendary Dad, Armond.

[dixieagle]

HC absolutely stole the game in '78. BC had something like 400 total yards to HC's 180, yet still found a way to lose.

HC almost beat Chlebek in '79 too...very close 13-10 BC win at Fitton.

I remember the HC game well. Pete Columbo from Brockton played QB for HC. I think he is now head Fball coach at Brockton following his legendary Dad, Armond.

I also remember that loss to HC, and Pete Colombo. His father was our coach at Archbishop Williams H.S., pre-Brockton (we were nowhere near as good.) If I recall correctly, Armand Colombo's brother-in-law was the heavyweight champ Rocky Marciano (really dating myself there...)

[1981Eagle]

HC absolutely stole the game in '78. BC had something like 400 total yards to HC's 180, yet still found a way to lose.

HC almost beat Chlebek in '79 too...very close 13-10 BC win at Fitton.

I remember the HC game well. Pete Columbo from Brockton played QB for HC. I think he is now head Fball coach at Brockton following his legendary Dad, Armond.

I also remember that loss to HC, and Pete Colombo. His father was our coach at Archbishop Williams H.S., pre-Brockton (we were nowhere near as good.) If I recall correctly, Armand Colombo's brother-in-law was the heavyweight champ Rocky Marciano (really dating myself there...)

True. The Brockton Stadium is named Marciano Stadium. Al Davis is from Brockton as is Marvelous Marvin Hagler. Great sports tradition there in Brockton.
We scrimmmaged them in HS and got drilled. They were dominant. I heard that Everett and Xaverian Brothers are now dominant.

[WilpertsRevenge]

Brockton-Xaverian tonight

Go Boxers

[twballgame9]

HC absolutely stole the game in '78. BC had something like 400 total yards to HC's 180, yet still found a way to lose.

HC almost beat Chlebek in '79 too...very close 13-10 BC win at Fitton.

I remember the HC game well. Pete Columbo from Brockton played QB for HC. I think he is now head Fball coach at Brockton following his legendary Dad, Armond.

I also remember that loss to HC, and Pete Colombo. His father was our coach at Archbishop Williams H.S., pre-Brockton (we were nowhere near as good.) If I recall correctly, Armand Colombo's brother-in-law was the heavyweight champ Rocky Marciano (really dating myself there...)

True. The Brockton Stadium is named Marciano Stadium. Al Davis is from Brockton as is Marvelous Marvin Hagler. Great sports tradition there in Brockton.
We scrimmmaged them in HS and got drilled. They were dominant. I heard that Everett and Xaverian Brothers are now dominant.

Everett has been dominant, but they are down this year. For a while, Everett was a national player. Brockton seems to be back this year.

[1981Eagle]

In truth, having grown up in Boston area, I didn't know how crappy HS football is in NE. The Tgiving rivalries are great but there are 40 teams between CA and AZ where I have homes that would crush any team from New England. These HS teams two-platoon, have OC,DC,Special Teams and position coaches on and on and on. The small college teams like a Bentley or Assumption would probably get beat by most of the Top HS teams in CA and AZ. Mater Dei, school of Matt Barkely and Matt Leinert, plays their games at Angels Stadium and attract 10-20K fans plus being a catholic school, they recruit from all of SC even though recruiting is not allowed. Have we EVER had one player out of Mater Dei? They send 6-8 players a year to D1 football schools and I can't recall BC ever having a player from MD even though we should since we can play the catholic card.

[Eagledom]

[quote="Saveagle"]He promised we could be like Notre Dame. Seriously. That's what got him hired. 78 would have been average without him, certainly not the clusterfuck of 0-11. He tried to install the veer without the proper personnel and it failed miserably, but perversely the failure was fun to watch.quote]

The veer....even Marshall won a game with that offense the year after almost their entire team was killed.

[quillisswill]

Chlebek also got the job because he really impressed the Captains, who were somehow allowed to be part of the interviewing process. Apparently they liked the way he looked them straight in the eye, and convinced them they were going to win. In retrospect, he was the classic con man - someone who gave great interview, but really wasn't good at much other than getting the job.

[angryty]

Mater Dei sucks. I'll take Westlake Christian, Long Beach Poly, Notre Dame Sherman Oaks or De Lasalle routinely stomp on Mater Dei.

[1981Eagle]

Mater Dei sucks. I'll take Westlake Christian, Long Beach Poly, Notre Dame Sherman Oaks or De Lasalle routinely stomp on Mater Dei.

That's a little extreme but then again, it's AngryTy. All of those teams are generally at the top of CA football including Mater Dei. The point is that any of those CA teams would beat the best New England HS team by at LEAST four touchdowns.

[angryty]

True, but Mater Dei sucks. Also Saint Bonnies would kill Mater Dei as well. There are also a bunch of North Cali schools that would dick stomp Mater Dei, specifically Sacramento Grant and St. Franny's.

As for your comments about Zona football, you might be able to make such an unequivocal statement about Brophy, but I think the Everetts and Brocktons of the world could hang with Amphi and the two Catholic schools in Tucson.

[1981Eagle]

True, but Mater Dei sucks. Also Saint Bonnies would kill Mater Dei as well. There are also a bunch of North Cali schools that would dick stomp Mater Dei, specifically Sacramento Grant and St. Franny's.

As for your comments about Zona football, you might be able to make such an unequivocal statement about Brophy, but I think the Everetts and Brocktons of the world could hang with Amphi and the two Catholic schools in Tucson.

My son goes to Brophy. They are usually among the best in AZ along with Hamilton Chandler, Desert Vista, Mesa Mountain View and Tucson Saguaro. Centennial is the power this year. Brophy lost a close one to them last week. Tonight, on ESPN2, Lakeland Florida is playing Concord, CA De LaSalle. It should be a better game than Missouri-Nevada on ESPN.